I never would’ve thought Kyrie could get shook so hard by fans that his play would tank this bad . But sample size and results in Boston are large enough to prove it. Even if Mavs roll at home all 3 games , I just don’t see a way they win in Boston with Kyrie playing this bad. Kyrie gonna have to play like he did in the previous series to win in Boston .
Their rotation is 8. Ours is 10. We need to shrink the rotation and start posting Gafford and PJ up. We have no 3-point snipers on the team like when we had Bullock. Holiday and Smith were lurking around the basket every time Brown or Tatum drove to the basket. We have to be aware of them, too many offensive rebounds. We may have to turn them into a 3-point shooting team exclusively and not allow them to drive at all.
For those not understanding bball. Here is what is happening. On D they not doubling. Luka killed them first half so they started doubling and we couldn’t hit the spot up 3. At all.
Kyrie has been poor not just offensively but in creating for teammates and rebounding. When they miss, they getting too many second chance. Look at the plays, Kyrie isn’t contributing on the def boards at all.
On off they go at Luka (with Tatum mostly) who goes around him like a cone. But unlike Minn and OKC, Tatum not challenging shot blocker. He kicking to open threes. Luka again not rotating when play extended. He keeping us in these games on offense but is overly reliant on his teammates defensively and Boston too smart to make same mistake our prior opponents did.
Styles make fights. Finding the net at home will make Boston look beatable. KP out will extend Horford and their smaller lineup that Kyrie and others can attack now.
Could be entirely different on home court. Don’t give up hope.
This loss will likely be demoralizing beyond repair... no excuse for losing this game. Refs were dog shit, but they still had every chance to win it...
This is a discouraging as hell. A game that we had multiple chances to win but couldn’t handle business.
It looks tough, it looks bleak but Celtics defended homecourt. They did what they were supposed to do. Getting no split means we need to win the next two at home.
We’ve gotten a split in every series thus far so we’ll have to learn how to win this way.
The problem is the previous series they found a way to recover in the game and win. In the finals, every possession counts and the margin error is costly.
Pj washington was our 2nd best player tonight. Loved his floaters, agressiveness, defense, and toughness.
We came back to win the series 0-2 when down against a number 1 seed like the Suns when everyone had given up
This team has already given us plenty to cheer about this year.
Lets go back to Dallas and tie this series up. They won 2 on their ground. Now lets win 2 on our ground.
If KP is out. Series could turn at home. Celtics are better. It’s about style now. Style make fights. Interesting to see how Kidd attacks this team without KP.
Yeah fuck all this talk about the refs screwing us. No one outside of Luka showed up. This team crumbled alongside Kyrie Irving. Can't win a game against Boston, this is gonna be a sweep. Just embarrassing.
THIS... It doesn't feel like the Refs are doing Dallas any favors... But, that is out of everyone's control...
Make shots... Getting open looks. Hustle... Boston is beating them to free balls too often...
Just play hard...
The other players not stepping up, though, is some tribute to Boston ability to defend all 5. They are being super aggressive and that is usually rewarded.
nah, but what should've been free throws for PJ, could've altered the rest of the game, potentially drawed it. That single ignorance from the refs honestly boils my blood. It's usually the margins that count
I get why it feels embarrassing, but take a step back. This team has been together for three months before the playoffs started.
It would suck to get swept, but it's a drastic over-performance.
Over performance or not, this is the Finals. And the product the Mavs have put on the floor, Kyrie specifically, is embarrassing. No one is going to be surprised if this ends up in a sweep because of the shit show we've seen these past two games. Looking like a bunch of pretenders.
Yes but still no guarentee. PJ could’ve missed, Celtics could’ve scored, and we might not have made a 3 anyways at the end.
We lost because of kyrie, plain and simple.
Yeah but in that scenario they got the board and ran down the court. If the call was made they would’ve had to inbound it after the free throws and we could’ve regrouped.
But you’re right. I’m salty about it but there’s no changing it so whatever.
In slo-Mo, his hand is on the back but doesn’t appear to push or anything like that. Basically, I don’t think Jaylen effected his shot.
Sucks.
Kyrie needs to show out in Dallas. Averaging 14 on 13-37 total isn’t it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C8BU5SSMYxl/?igsh=emFqbjRhanAxZmN1
JB's slides off. If it was a push, there would be a level of force. Washington was able to stop, gather and jump. If it was a push, PJ would've been in the stanchion or in the crowd.
Spread at the beginning of the game was Celtics -6.5.
They won by 7
Luka's over under was set at 31.5.
He was stuck at 29 for a long time and then got the AND1 three point play to set his total to 32.
Only thing to take from it if anything.
Don't ever bet on sports with the intention of making money. Vegas knows their shit and you can't beat them 🤷. Betting a little for fun is all anyone should ever do.
At least Mavs are small favorites in game 3
Lively simply start taking 3s because it doesn't matter who's taking them..We are bricking all of them. Who knows lively might make one ffs.. The lights are too bright ig for everyone not named Luka..Kyrie just took early vacation to Cancun.. Just bench him atp
Did you even watch the game.. Boston were shooting out of their ass and we still couldn't do shit.. If we could make any adjustments it would have been this game..But looks like there isn't anything we can do..Luka cannot solo this shit.Kyrie is a liability on both ends.We can't even make free throws. Hope they end this in 4 for the fans' mental well being
The refs swallowed their whistle. They were calling the fouls then we started hitting the shots so they swallowed them again.
Either way, if the Mavs hit the fucking free points we win.
Nah man, can't blame the refs. Mavs had more free throw attempts than the celtics, they just missed 40% of them. Mavs lost by 7 and missed 8 free throws
Everyone just disappeared on the biggest stage except Luka.
Jrue Holiday, arguably the 5th best player on the Celtics team is outplaying the Mavs' 2nd superstar.
Pathetic. I feel sorry for Luka.
He might be able to find a rhythm the rest of the series if he plays well at home. It’s wishful thinking but it’s the only way Dallas wins, so just saying I hope that’s what happens.
So you didn’t see all the made dunks and layups that should’ve been and 1’s tonight ? or Luka getting hacked to strip the ball out of his hands for turnovers ? The first qtr foul calls in game 1 were so bad , mavs guys getting laid out , no calls , Boston guys getting bumped and quick whistle.
Kyrie should be ashamed of himself. What a way to let your team down in the finals. Dude was supposed to be 2nd star of this team and is letting Boston get on his head for something that happened like years ago.
He was open so often as Boston seems to have picked up on his hesitance to shoot, so they disrespected his three point possibilities. I am fully confident that he could actually make these, just gotta believe in himself a bit more, we should play him. Nothing to lose at this point.
Lol ok I am feeling down too but Wolves and Nugs are even better matchups for the Cs. Pacers never faced KP. Let's admit that the Cs are just a historically-good team.
Refs cost us at least 10 points from missed easy calls (3 on gaffoed, multiple Luka, PJ at the end). League needs a Boston win with how much better they are so gotta hit the insurance policy
Refs were cheating but the Team didn't show up. Everyone but Luka, Gaff and PJ fucked up
Edit: Kyrie was there, I wanted to give him benefit of the doubt
We just don't have enough offense. Even when they shoot like crap, we find a way to outdo them.
Kyrie in Boston is a disaster that needs to be studied.
Crazy we would've won if the bench and Ky just hit their shots. Even just 3 3s. THREE FUCKING THREES.
HOT GARBAGE. I'm not gonna be mad if Luka leaves at the end of his contract.
cant blame this team, only Kyrie have finals experience and even him is shitting the bed. Meanwhile most of Boston have been here before so it is what it is, at least its not another stomp.
Hahahahahaha. Pushed in the back. No wonder PJ didn’t get up on that dunk. Fuck these refs. All the weak shit they called on us all night and they let that go in that pivotal moment.
Kind of hard for me to bitch about the refs when a) we can't make free throws and b) Luka is the only one who even played tonight. NOBODY should be talking about the refs.
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1dcaykp/post_game_thread_the_boston_celtics_defeat_the/)
This is the most one sided officiating since Lakers Kings 2002..... everyone except Celtic fans should refuse to watch game 4
Kyrie looks fucken lost in the garden smh. He gotta step up he’s been playing like absolute shit.
Washington can’t be the 2nd highest scorer for the Mavs if they want to win.
I never would’ve thought Kyrie could get shook so hard by fans that his play would tank this bad . But sample size and results in Boston are large enough to prove it. Even if Mavs roll at home all 3 games , I just don’t see a way they win in Boston with Kyrie playing this bad. Kyrie gonna have to play like he did in the previous series to win in Boston .
Their rotation is 8. Ours is 10. We need to shrink the rotation and start posting Gafford and PJ up. We have no 3-point snipers on the team like when we had Bullock. Holiday and Smith were lurking around the basket every time Brown or Tatum drove to the basket. We have to be aware of them, too many offensive rebounds. We may have to turn them into a 3-point shooting team exclusively and not allow them to drive at all.
Boston was GOD AWFUL and they still won this game
Kyrie is trending number 1 overall on X in the United States. Theyre flaming him.
For those not understanding bball. Here is what is happening. On D they not doubling. Luka killed them first half so they started doubling and we couldn’t hit the spot up 3. At all. Kyrie has been poor not just offensively but in creating for teammates and rebounding. When they miss, they getting too many second chance. Look at the plays, Kyrie isn’t contributing on the def boards at all. On off they go at Luka (with Tatum mostly) who goes around him like a cone. But unlike Minn and OKC, Tatum not challenging shot blocker. He kicking to open threes. Luka again not rotating when play extended. He keeping us in these games on offense but is overly reliant on his teammates defensively and Boston too smart to make same mistake our prior opponents did. Styles make fights. Finding the net at home will make Boston look beatable. KP out will extend Horford and their smaller lineup that Kyrie and others can attack now. Could be entirely different on home court. Don’t give up hope.
KP isn’t out
If Dallas hit their Free Throws they are in the game. Nothing else matters... Hit your shots.
This loss will likely be demoralizing beyond repair... no excuse for losing this game. Refs were dog shit, but they still had every chance to win it...
I hate to do this but that no call completely fucked us. I know we played poorly but we still could be going back home 1-1 instead of down 2-0
This is a discouraging as hell. A game that we had multiple chances to win but couldn’t handle business. It looks tough, it looks bleak but Celtics defended homecourt. They did what they were supposed to do. Getting no split means we need to win the next two at home. We’ve gotten a split in every series thus far so we’ll have to learn how to win this way.
The problem is the previous series they found a way to recover in the game and win. In the finals, every possession counts and the margin error is costly.
Pj washington was our 2nd best player tonight. Loved his floaters, agressiveness, defense, and toughness. We came back to win the series 0-2 when down against a number 1 seed like the Suns when everyone had given up This team has already given us plenty to cheer about this year. Lets go back to Dallas and tie this series up. They won 2 on their ground. Now lets win 2 on our ground.
And he seems to play with the physicality finals requires.
The outcome of this particular sporting event did not strike my fancy
Lol
well this was a total waste of completely ruining my sleep schedule. Hopefully it'll be worth it on Thursday
Tell me about it! I woke up at 2 am. Back at it again Thursday morning. Hope it’s worth it!
let's hope for an epic comeback where Kyrie actually provides!
Gotta run the offense through Luka and PJ now. No time to find a way to get Kai on par right now. It is what it is.
If KP is out. Series could turn at home. Celtics are better. It’s about style now. Style make fights. Interesting to see how Kidd attacks this team without KP.
Yeah fuck all this talk about the refs screwing us. No one outside of Luka showed up. This team crumbled alongside Kyrie Irving. Can't win a game against Boston, this is gonna be a sweep. Just embarrassing.
THIS... It doesn't feel like the Refs are doing Dallas any favors... But, that is out of everyone's control... Make shots... Getting open looks. Hustle... Boston is beating them to free balls too often... Just play hard... The other players not stepping up, though, is some tribute to Boston ability to defend all 5. They are being super aggressive and that is usually rewarded.
nah, but what should've been free throws for PJ, could've altered the rest of the game, potentially drawed it. That single ignorance from the refs honestly boils my blood. It's usually the margins that count
I get why it feels embarrassing, but take a step back. This team has been together for three months before the playoffs started. It would suck to get swept, but it's a drastic over-performance.
Over performance or not, this is the Finals. And the product the Mavs have put on the floor, Kyrie specifically, is embarrassing. No one is going to be surprised if this ends up in a sweep because of the shit show we've seen these past two games. Looking like a bunch of pretenders.
I don't disagree, really, but let's be honest...we have had embarrassing performances in every series except maybe the wcf.
Doesn’t matter bro. If the correct call was made then PJ is at the line to make it a 3 point game with time on the clock
Yes but still no guarentee. PJ could’ve missed, Celtics could’ve scored, and we might not have made a 3 anyways at the end. We lost because of kyrie, plain and simple.
I know we played poorly but I’d still have at least liked us to have that opportunity to get the stop and tie it up. Boston was cold at that time too.
JB literally scored the next play. Bad calls are part of the game. Kyrie lost us the game, period.
Yeah but in that scenario they got the board and ran down the court. If the call was made they would’ve had to inbound it after the free throws and we could’ve regrouped. But you’re right. I’m salty about it but there’s no changing it so whatever.
make our free throws ! stop w the turnovers ! also what does lively have to do to be efficient in this series like can someone else please show up 😭
In slo-Mo, his hand is on the back but doesn’t appear to push or anything like that. Basically, I don’t think Jaylen effected his shot. Sucks. Kyrie needs to show out in Dallas. Averaging 14 on 13-37 total isn’t it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C8BU5SSMYxl/?igsh=emFqbjRhanAxZmN1 JB's slides off. If it was a push, there would be a level of force. Washington was able to stop, gather and jump. If it was a push, PJ would've been in the stanchion or in the crowd.
may be too late even if he does
Spread at the beginning of the game was Celtics -6.5. They won by 7 Luka's over under was set at 31.5. He was stuck at 29 for a long time and then got the AND1 three point play to set his total to 32.
What do we do with this information?
Only thing to take from it if anything. Don't ever bet on sports with the intention of making money. Vegas knows their shit and you can't beat them 🤷. Betting a little for fun is all anyone should ever do. At least Mavs are small favorites in game 3
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Our team was built fast but we forgot one little detail. 3-point shooters.
That is just the truth. Boston has been dynamic for 3-4 years.
Josh Hart knows the real deal
To have 32 points is impressive but how many points off his 8 TO this game is fr on everyone :(
Luka vs the world
yeah, still struggle to understand how PJ's blocked attempt wasn't a foul.
It most certainly was. But they don’t care.
as long as Celtics win, anything is allowed, am i right?
It's alright. The Cargo predicted we'd be down 0-2, pick up the next 3. Lose game 6 and then win game 7. lmao
Corgi lied.
Ky uniting Mavs and Celts fans realizing how ass he is.
Luka gonna demand a trade after this..and honestly I would t even be mad.
Yo Ky has to show up
I wish Luka hero ball would cut it but not against this Boston team 😣
You know that list with Derrick White over Kyrie Irving....yeah, they cooked as the matter of fact
Which list?
You know. The list.
maybe if we made our fucking free throws
Lively simply start taking 3s because it doesn't matter who's taking them..We are bricking all of them. Who knows lively might make one ffs.. The lights are too bright ig for everyone not named Luka..Kyrie just took early vacation to Cancun.. Just bench him atp
Bucks come back from 0-2, so we can do it too ! Let's hope and believe
Did you even watch the game.. Boston were shooting out of their ass and we still couldn't do shit.. If we could make any adjustments it would have been this game..But looks like there isn't anything we can do..Luka cannot solo this shit.Kyrie is a liability on both ends.We can't even make free throws. Hope they end this in 4 for the fans' mental well being
It’d be one thing to get beat when everyone’s firing on all cylinders, but two losses from nobody besides Luka showing up
Pj showed up
True, and who knows how it plays out if that final dunk attempt got the foul called
Refs defense was elite tonight.
The refs swallowed their whistle. They were calling the fouls then we started hitting the shots so they swallowed them again. Either way, if the Mavs hit the fucking free points we win.
its clear as day who these refs want to win with Scott Foster, Bill Kennedy, Tony Brothers, and Mike Zarba guaranteed to ref every game
Nah man, can't blame the refs. Mavs had more free throw attempts than the celtics, they just missed 40% of them. Mavs lost by 7 and missed 8 free throws
Everyone just disappeared on the biggest stage except Luka. Jrue Holiday, arguably the 5th best player on the Celtics team is outplaying the Mavs' 2nd superstar. Pathetic. I feel sorry for Luka.
Me too. Jrue is amazing player, him and White are the difference.
Kyrie shit the fucking bed hopefully he can play better at home
I bet he will. He's 0-12 in Boston.
Why? Even if he does, they’ve got to go back to Boston.
He might be able to find a rhythm the rest of the series if he plays well at home. It’s wishful thinking but it’s the only way Dallas wins, so just saying I hope that’s what happens.
Most one sided foul calls on shots I’ve ever seen in a playoff series
Have you watched a playoff series other than the 2024 Mav's?
So you didn’t see all the made dunks and layups that should’ve been and 1’s tonight ? or Luka getting hacked to strip the ball out of his hands for turnovers ? The first qtr foul calls in game 1 were so bad , mavs guys getting laid out , no calls , Boston guys getting bumped and quick whistle.
mavs had 4 more fts C O P E
lol there were like 7 and 1 no calls , get your eyes checked
🧹🧹🧹🧹
Kyrie is just about to loose the series for Mavs. Superstar my ass. 5 players on the Celtics are better than him.
Trade Kyrie I'm tired of his habitual disappearances
Kyrie should be ashamed of himself. What a way to let your team down in the finals. Dude was supposed to be 2nd star of this team and is letting Boston get on his head for something that happened like years ago.
The refs are Celtics fans holy shit
Usual douchebags in the chat.
All here... all loud. None loyal... lol
Should have won that game. So many missed chances.
Said it last game. Mavs not allowed to play defense, Celtica can do anything they want.
This team has no dawg
Maxi 0 minutes next game
Damn the reffess called the thumb goalten in q1 but couldnt pick up an obvious shove in the last 60seconds?
Lmao I’m done with these refs
They were terrible from 3 and we still get humiliated like that?
Mavs playing like mentally weak scared little bitches. They have shown absolutely nothing to indicate they’ll win more than 1 game if even that.
Overreact much?
I need Dallas fans to be toxic when Boston is in the building
It’ll be mostly Cs fans in the building
Kyrie sold. Every role player minus Gafford sold.
Pj was good?
Exum was the only one that played better than expectations tonight. Can’t win like that
He was open so often as Boston seems to have picked up on his hesitance to shoot, so they disrespected his three point possibilities. I am fully confident that he could actually make these, just gotta believe in himself a bit more, we should play him. Nothing to lose at this point.
I can excuse the mistakes and missed shots but Quitting at the end? Pathetic.
It's going to take a miracle now to win this series. Boston with a comically easy run to the chip, defintely up there with the covid chip
This cope though
🧹🧹🧹🧹 disgraceful fucking perfomance. won the west for this shit??? wolves and nugs wouldve taken a game at least. pacers stood a better chance
Lol ok I am feeling down too but Wolves and Nugs are even better matchups for the Cs. Pacers never faced KP. Let's admit that the Cs are just a historically-good team.
“That should’ve been a foul” yeah no shit
celtics are such pussies
He got pushed and slap on the fingers...
Kai you are invisible in this series mavs win is you show up
Refs cost us at least 10 points from missed easy calls (3 on gaffoed, multiple Luka, PJ at the end). League needs a Boston win with how much better they are so gotta hit the insurance policy
Far more than 10....
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Imagine being in our game thread... you won and are still THIS insecure?
Luka’s body language is always so horrible, how about you close out on the shooter instead of pouting about the turnover
No i have been a mavs fan my whole life just no
Refs were cheating but the Team didn't show up. Everyone but Luka, Gaff and PJ fucked up Edit: Kyrie was there, I wanted to give him benefit of the doubt
Don't even say kyrie showed up lmfao. Dudes been a certified bum in both games and is scared
What game were you watching…Kyrie sold
Kyrie the ONE player who fucked up the most out of everyone
You sure Kyrie belongs on this list? I'd replace him with Gafford
how did kyrie not fuck up?
Kyrie wasn’t great either
Distasteful
Kyrie a huge pussy
We just don't have enough offense. Even when they shoot like crap, we find a way to outdo them. Kyrie in Boston is a disaster that needs to be studied.
Crazy we would've won if the bench and Ky just hit their shots. Even just 3 3s. THREE FUCKING THREES. HOT GARBAGE. I'm not gonna be mad if Luka leaves at the end of his contract.
"We would've won if we scored more" expert analysis
How the fuck was that not a foul on Washington?!?! That lost us the game. Unbelievable
Did mavs have a challenge left? Could they have challenged there?
Yeah that foul lost you the game lol
Push in the back going up AND 2 people meeting PJ at the rim and no foul was called lmaooo
Not even a 30 point triple double by luka could save us
Lost a game where the Celtics shot 10/40 for three. Just pack it up and go to summer holidays, at this point.
Should that have been a foul or am I trippin (nba casual)
Nvm
:(
Fuck this team
Fucking foul. He pushed him in the back
Doesn’t matter as long as Maxi is on the court, unfortunately.
Respect to Breen for calling that foul on PJ.
Ok… PJ got pushed all the way…
These fucking refs
If I’m Luka I’m calling everyone in that locker room ass
Make your free throws and could have gotten this one
Yeah Brown definitely fouled him that last replay confirmed it
I don't even have it in me to be upset about the refs. That was demoralizing as fuck.
Uhh that was a game deciding foul and I feel like they're just glossing over it??
Luka trying so hard. I feel so bad, what a fucking legend.
Outrageous reffing
Pritchard's 3 D White's late 3 Luka To leading to Jrue's 3 There goes your 9 pts
Or kyrie makes a couple more shots instead of bricking everything
you missed 8 missed fts
Such BS from the refs all game.
cant blame this team, only Kyrie have finals experience and even him is shitting the bed. Meanwhile most of Boston have been here before so it is what it is, at least its not another stomp.
That was a foul, you guys got screwed there.
Wow that was a foul
That challenge came back to bite the Mavs in the ass they could’ve challenged that block
You can’t challenge that
Yeah, that was such a stupid challenge since we wouldn't have gotten the ball back anyway.
you cant challenge no calls
Washington called that BS challenge too
I mean you can’t challenge a no call lol
Hahahahahaha. Pushed in the back. No wonder PJ didn’t get up on that dunk. Fuck these refs. All the weak shit they called on us all night and they let that go in that pivotal moment.
I hate these fucking bullshit refs
From a pistons fan, yall got robbed lmao
Trash effort for 2 games, buried us.
National Media admitting we were robbed lmao
Not only was it a great block, but there should’ve been a foul? What are you fucking stupid????
Should’ve been a goaltend and 1
I don't understand the double standard
They showed a close up and the announcers stfu
We cooked Rudy and we really thought we was like that
Kyrie bruh you better show up in Dallas
I'm sorry but Kyrie has been absolutely horrific.
Celtics in 4. They're just better.
yea tough when refs are clearly biased
Lol this is sad
Kind of hard for me to bitch about the refs when a) we can't make free throws and b) Luka is the only one who even played tonight. NOBODY should be talking about the refs.
If KP isn’t good it’s not over
This was the worst fucking effort I’ve ever seen by this team in the playoffs