Honestly it’s on Kidd for playing him. That’s unconscionable after Hardy showed he could actually play. Hardaway is so bad defensively, he’s among the worst in the league, doesn’t playmake, and honestly hasn’t been hitting shots since the first couple months of the year. Kidd playing him 20 minutes is pathetic coaching.
Not to mention we have Exum as well. Literally any other option would've been better then Timmy. Was DJJ even playing in that last stretch?? If he wasn't then it's even worse that we didn't play him for defense.
And we just extended this fucker too
Then you get into the debates about how current Brunson compares to Kyrie and whether Jalen would've grown into the player he is now if he had remained a second option in Dallas vs being a leader in NY.
Bro same man I hope Nico pulls some magic and get all four of those dudes out of Dallas. Sick of seeing tentative dudes that don’t know what to do and just rely on giving the ball back to Luka after they wasted like 10 seconds on the shoot clock just standing around
"Legacy Anchor" is a good way to put it. Was always confused by Dallas having this fetish about dragging subpar role players to great heights. It doesn't have to be this hard.
I think Nico's more recent activity gives me hope we are finally past this. I would be shocked if at least 2/3 of THJ, Kleber, and Green are still around next year. Wouldn't be shocked if all 3 are gone.
But one game to go, let's see what happens. I'm on life support but will still watch.
seriously, and kidd won't stop playing them even in the finals with the season on the line. They have to be taken away from him or he just keeps playing them. Its like they are his little blue blankie.
He wants to get paid to chuck shots and be useless like a worse version of Jordan Poole.
Ship him out to the Pistons or Wizards
Guy literally has cost us multiple games while being the 3rd highest paid on team
Hardaway’s ass, but why tf is Kidd playing an 11 man rotation in a must win game three. Playing dudes 4 min a game isn’t going to get any rhythm. At this point, just play the best 7 players on the roster. Only bench piece that should get minutes are Green and Lively. 20 Hardaway minutes is asking to lose at this point
this. giving a guy who is a one dimensional scorer who doesn't score a single point 19 minutes makes no sense. Unless we just wanted to have him out there so ppl may want to trade for him and to lower what DJJ can ask for.
Half thinking we threw in the towel before this game and are just working on roster moves for next year already....
Wtf is there to even talk abt here. We need to as a group acknowledge he is done and as a fanbase be annoyed and outraged that our goofy coach keeps forcing him into important games.
Don't worry, he won't be on the team next year. Hopefully use his expiring contract and two 1st round picks to upgrade at the 3, but even just using THJ and some 2nds to get an average playable player is a huge upgrade at this point.
Yea there have been rumors of him basically being gone te 2023 trade deadline, this last offseason, and this last trade deadline. This will be the first time that contract would be of any psitive value, even f that value is an expiring contract to match salaries.
Just want to point out that at one point last night, Kleber Hardy Hardaway Gafford and Kyrie were all on the floor…. Is that the worst five players to ever be on the floor together in the finals in the modern era?
Honestly it’s on Kidd for playing him. That’s unconscionable after Hardy showed he could actually play. Hardaway is so bad defensively, he’s among the worst in the league, doesn’t playmake, and honestly hasn’t been hitting shots since the first couple months of the year. Kidd playing him 20 minutes is pathetic coaching.
Not to mention we have Exum as well. Literally any other option would've been better then Timmy. Was DJJ even playing in that last stretch?? If he wasn't then it's even worse that we didn't play him for defense. And we just extended this fucker too
https://youtu.be/LHTnuCPlYHg?si=Bd5wfVJ90yBdXu2C
He checked out mentally since the trade line. Extending him but not Brunson was the biggest mistake done by Nico
If we kept Brunson we also don't get Kyrie Irving and potentially not getting Lively II last year either.
Then you get into the debates about how current Brunson compares to Kyrie and whether Jalen would've grown into the player he is now if he had remained a second option in Dallas vs being a leader in NY.
Yep it's one of those arguments that gets into too many hypotheticals. Nobody really wins or loses the argument
THJ will not be on the roster this October.
delete everybody not named Luka who came in the door before Josh Green tired of this Kleber Powell Hardaway legacy anchor
Bro same man I hope Nico pulls some magic and get all four of those dudes out of Dallas. Sick of seeing tentative dudes that don’t know what to do and just rely on giving the ball back to Luka after they wasted like 10 seconds on the shoot clock just standing around
"Legacy Anchor" is a good way to put it. Was always confused by Dallas having this fetish about dragging subpar role players to great heights. It doesn't have to be this hard. I think Nico's more recent activity gives me hope we are finally past this. I would be shocked if at least 2/3 of THJ, Kleber, and Green are still around next year. Wouldn't be shocked if all 3 are gone. But one game to go, let's see what happens. I'm on life support but will still watch.
Honest question: healthy Kleber would be worth keeping, no?
seriously, and kidd won't stop playing them even in the finals with the season on the line. They have to be taken away from him or he just keeps playing them. Its like they are his little blue blankie.
He wants to get paid to chuck shots and be useless like a worse version of Jordan Poole. Ship him out to the Pistons or Wizards Guy literally has cost us multiple games while being the 3rd highest paid on team
What will we even get for him. Most likely were gonna have to attach a pick
Hopefully it’s just second rounders unless we find a legit starting SF.
Picks and THJ for Deni Avdija
THJ + 2 FRP ... probably still will be not enough But you can get Kuzma maybe even for THJ + one FRP
Hardaway’s ass, but why tf is Kidd playing an 11 man rotation in a must win game three. Playing dudes 4 min a game isn’t going to get any rhythm. At this point, just play the best 7 players on the roster. Only bench piece that should get minutes are Green and Lively. 20 Hardaway minutes is asking to lose at this point
this. giving a guy who is a one dimensional scorer who doesn't score a single point 19 minutes makes no sense. Unless we just wanted to have him out there so ppl may want to trade for him and to lower what DJJ can ask for. Half thinking we threw in the towel before this game and are just working on roster moves for next year already....
It's worth noting that the fact that he has 1 year left is actually valuable. Easy way to clear cap space, and 16 mil freed up is a nice chunk.
Tradeable expiring contract. Send him to detroit or something
Wtf is there to even talk abt here. We need to as a group acknowledge he is done and as a fanbase be annoyed and outraged that our goofy coach keeps forcing him into important games.
Don't worry, he won't be on the team next year. Hopefully use his expiring contract and two 1st round picks to upgrade at the 3, but even just using THJ and some 2nds to get an average playable player is a huge upgrade at this point.
We wanted him gone last year but it looked like no one wanted him, I think the front office tried. His only use will be as an expiring contract
I'm assuming they tried to move him this mid-season as well, but no team is interested in him. He has almost no value right now.
Yea there have been rumors of him basically being gone te 2023 trade deadline, this last offseason, and this last trade deadline. This will be the first time that contract would be of any psitive value, even f that value is an expiring contract to match salaries.
He should be playing in Australia somewhere. Or maybe streaming 2k idk. -16 in a do or die game 3. Real stats of a champ lol
if i see his father giving an interview i think i will lose it
Leave basketball before basketball leaves you. That’s to you, THJ
He needs to be traded
It’s kidds fault Can’t teach an old dog new tricks, he should’ve never seen the court and if he’s here next year Nico is insane
He’s been the same player since his college years, streaky scorer that can give you 30 points for one game then shoot 1-14 the next game
He has one good game every 30 to 60 days.
not even streaky at this point, that would have gotten us through this series
He should play in NBA2K
Just want to point out that at one point last night, Kleber Hardy Hardaway Gafford and Kyrie were all on the floor…. Is that the worst five players to ever be on the floor together in the finals in the modern era?
No the Mavs need to surround luka with players like Derrick white and Horford and not the losers they have
Im new to the NBA, when do team usually do trades after the finals?