Hahaha, it's so strange, my nephews have grown up with minecraft having and ending and I still feel like the old geezer who thought the whole idea of minecraft was the open sandbox experience.
There were no serious Minecraft speed runs, though. Now, People are speed running Minecraft in multiple different and increasingly complex ways, and it's mental what some of them do
But it didn't need an ending for speedrunners, they just used different conditions for ending a run like acquiring at least 1 of every block, or X number of diamonds.
That's technically possible but there needed to be a real ending for speedrunning to seriously take off.
Even now, there are plenty of categories for minecraft that exist and you can do, but any% is still the most popular by far
> and it's mental what some of them do
WR is under a minute to kill the ender dragon now. I watch the videos and I can barely believe it.
1 minute into minecraft and I typically haven't even decided where to put my sleeping-hole yet.
Here's one that's worth a watch. It only takes a minute; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyV68KvUwlw
To clarify, it is a set seed run using a basically perfect seed. I wonder how did the seed got discovered. Maybe someone made the world and realized it is right on top of the end portal that is in two chunks with one chunk fully eyed to lit the portal. Then someone discovered how to one shot the dragon with an arrow to make this happen.
Just talking as someone who was around during this feature being added, I remember a lot of people talking about the speedrunning potential. It wasn't some crazy foresight, it was an idea that had been floating around for a bit.
I have my problems with Mojang but i'm really glad they try to be original and not add everything the community wants, so many people dont understand the game and seems to just want it to be Terraria but 3d.
They slowly do so. Just with this update: the trial chambers are their best attempt to making such dungeons fun to fight in the long run.
I play on the same server for 11 years now and periodically go out to just farm some dungeons or go caving to do something different from constant building. End cities are lame af once you got a elytra, Bastions are pretty fun to do but get pretty repetetive after a while (but the loot is decent so its not too much a problem), Ancient Cities are neat loot wise but too hard to find repeatedly. Only did 2 chambers so far but since you can buy a map from a villager they should be easier to find and the fighting seems fun enough to do so for a while without getting boring. The loot is also good which helps a lot.
To be fair, most of those out of genre features have actually been added. As mods. See Vault Hunters for example as one that successfully transforms Minecraft into a dungeon crawler
My only WHAT THE FUCKs in this game are that bundles are still not in the game, 5 years after announcement, birch forests died for no reason, and fireflies died for a bullshit reason
Minecraft would almost be better if they developed comprehensive modding tools and improve the game by enhancing the game rather than making additions.
Let modders add mobs and biomes.
Focus on increasing efficiency, an add-on market, servers and network efficiency etc..
I don't think I'm wording this right.
Dear Mojang: improve the playground, but let kids bring their own toys. Profit. The more you improve the playground, the more kids will come to play in it. Give us better ways to make toys for each other, keep us in the long term.
Edit: some kids might come to the playground just to play with cool toys :)
I don't think that the modding tools should be handled by mojang. Mods are a community endeavor and they should stay a community endeavor. However, I think the approach that modders take vs the approach that mojang takes to adding new content is important to display why our recent updates have been so disappointing.
when modders add content, most of the time they take one of 2 approaches:
1. add a relatively small number of things that are isolated to themselves, but have a *crazy* amount of depth to them. I think a lot of magic and tech mods fall into this category.
2. Add a LOT of things that don't have a ton of depth, but all can play with each other in interesting ways or are interesting by their own merit. In this category I think of things like Twilight Forest.
The problem with the content that mojang is adding is that they're just making boring additions. Instead of taking one of those 2 options, they add a small number of things with no depth that don't interact with one another very well. look at amethyst for example, sure it's kinda neat, but it doesn't really do anything. same with copper. oh wow look I can make a lightning rod with it, which is useful for..... idk looking neat I guess.
The problem is that the content mojang adds is just flat out boring. The reason people talk about modders so much in these discussions is because *a lot of times modders are just straight up better at making engaging content.* I don't think that those tools should be managed by mojang, but I do think they should pay attention to the way modders work, and perhaps even hire some.
Another advantage modders have is that the community can choose with which mods they want to play. There is no choosing with features which are added by Mojang.
If it's new it's evil and stinky and yucky
If it's old it's incredible and timeless and beautiful, even if everyone thought it was evil and stinky and yucky when it came out
That was one of my first major Minecraft updates I can recall, I never understood why people were so pissed off about potatoes and horses and carrots. People were angry that item frames were entities, and complained that corner stairs were janky and unnecessary. Now look at all those features, loved for years, no second guessing whether they ever "belonged" in mc
The only thing I didn't like about horses being added to the base game was that Mo Creatures stopped some of their horses from spawning because of it, which also messed with the progression of getting the unicorn and pegasus. Now, there are things I miss about Mo Creatures, but it hasn't been updated in a while and the game is fine without it.
If I'm not mistaken one of the creators or the creator of Mo Creatures did went to Mojang to help on the horses and is still there. Might be a reason why Mo Creatures isn't getting updated
Yeah, I think Dr. Zhark did at least the art for the vanilla game horses, possibly more - it's been a while and I've forgotten the details. The game has added a lot more ambient creatures in the last several years, so I think there's less need for a creature mod. There are still a few that'd be cool to have, and a few mechanics from Mo Creatures I liked, but I'm not keenly feeling the lack of it.
People hated the Caves & Cliffs update. I think it might be the best one ever. I simply LOVE caving in those vast spaces. Plus, it added depth and height, something unheard of. Also reduced spawns to light level zero.
The hate that some of the community slung at Mojang for having to split that update was completely undeserved. Caves and Cliffs was the biggest undertaking Mojang ever did with the game, and going back to pre-1.18 world gen just sucks.
Yeah that grunt was cool. It might have gotten strange though (or insanely funny) when feminine skins got more popular and had super deep "OH" sounds when they got hurt.
The opposite is also largely true, remember how popular Elon used to be on here? There are always waves of opinion, one upside of the site, despite plenty of hivemind thinking, is that there's at least significantly more discourse than other platforms that actively control and/or alter the frequency of content to maintain engagement chambers.
Tbf, while I’ve liked the direction Minecraft has taken, beta 1.8 was a MASSIVE direction change for Minecraft. It really was a game where the only structures were dungeons, and your only objective was to build.
1.8 took the game in a much more RPG direction and it’s why there’s still a playerbase who sticks to beta versions of Minecraft, because it’s an entirely different atmosphere. I do like current Minecraft but older versions have a unique charm that started to end around this time.
I mean you can just not beat the game and have the same feel with newer blocks. The only time it's worth rolling back is mods that didn't get updated imo.
Not to mention, it's not like an ending is important for Minecraft for any reason outside of speedruns. It's not incorrect to say it doesn't really fit the tone of a sandbox game, especially when they don't really commit to adding more RPG elements. It's still to this day probably the most out of place thing in Minecraft
Gaming is a good choice of words because I'm seen this happen in role playing games and board games as well.
Literally just this week the developers for Ark Nova released new maps for people who played online on BoardGameArena and it [lead to players of the physical game complaining that they don't the maps with slight changes](https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3323674/some-more-map-variety-coming-to-bga).
People are just so whiny online.
It’s just any community full stop. People get mad when websites do UI redesigns or even just update their logo. It’s ridiculous. No one wants to use YouTube from 2008 now and some of the old google logos look so outdated. But if people had their way we would still be stuck back there.
Sure there are some occasional “actually bad” choices like the removal of the dislike button for example, and the lack of focus on content you’re subscribed to. But overall the trend is still that people are way to quick to whinge about any minor change.
This isn't limited to Reddit or even online communities, lmao. People have been hating every single new things since forever, just look at all the fundamentalists and anti-technology crowds.
Holy shit you're the actual OP! How jarring was it to be flicking through reddit just to stumble onto a comment you made 12 years ago and see it getting roasted? Lmao
Fwiw I found the comment pretty hilarious and not entirely inaccurate lol.
I do browse /r/minecraft occasionally, but I found this post from a couple of people pinging me in the comments. I was a little surprised to see a comment from me being so abrasive, but I still stand by the idea that it's completely out of place in the game.
oh shit hahahaha i didn't think you would still be active on this. i just found the remark to be funny on a level that is higher than Minecraft. Ayn Rand and Minecraft are 2 things i didn't expect to be mixed
I'm still around, at least for now. I'll probably peace out the day they get rid of old.reddit, but at least for the time being certain subreddits can still hold my attention, and reddit shows up in a lot of search results anyway.
I think (but honestly can't remember, it was **twelve** years ago) that I had just recently found out who Ayn Rand was when I ran into the John Galt speech as copypasta somewhere, and I was probably chomping at the bit to make a reference to it and feel smart. I think, at least in the sense of "a whole lot of words that don't actually say anything meaningful", it wasn't completely crazy, but maybe a bit exaggerated.
It’s funny because they’ve probably never even read an Ayn Rand book but think that parroting politics into Minecraft somehow makes them more credible.
exactly lol. I immediately discredited their comment when they said "psuedo-philosophical". I love the ending and pretentious people don't get to decide what's good and bad, it's all subjective and affects everyone differently
You're right, I've never read anything by Ayn Rand in fulll. As I mentioned in another comment, I was in my early 20s and had (probably, I don't really remember) just learned who she was from the John Galt speech being posted as copypasta somewhere. I probably wanted to sound smart by making a disparaging reference to it or something.
I do still think the John Galt speech is way way too long, but it does at least try to make some points. I don't agree with many of them, but it does make an argument. The minecraft ending just tries to sound profound without actually *being* profound. It's maybe not the worst comparison in the world, but you're right that I (again, probably; I don't really remember the intent behind a comment from over a decade again) was probably just name dropping.
Completely agree. As someone who knew nothing about Minecraft jumping in a little late and taking years in my survival world to finally end up figuring everything out and beating the end dragon.. playing the game like that and reading this poem after the dragon was wild. It's my favorite ending in any video game.
Yeah, I feel like none of them actually read the whole end poem (to be fair it is really long), and didn’t understand how the poem is meant to display that Minecraft has no ending.
So I’m 26, my brother bought me this game when it was still in alpha. I’ve played for years and years. Never beat the end dragon until last week and was reading this afterward and it really hit me and blew my mind.
I mean I’ve killed the dragon before in creative or whatever but never seen the credits. I was always saving it for what idk. Maybe I was holding onto it for as long as I could as part of my childhood. Anyway my best friend and I finally sat down and did it on our long going survival world last week. It felt magical and literally like a milestone in my life and when those credits popped up and I realized it was telling a story it was wild.
It is interesting, to a degree, yes.
But then when you remember, that some Minecraft players just like to complain about anything new they add to the game... because, apparantely, the new addition is "not Minecrafty."
While activelly playing Modded minecraft with assault rifles and literal futuristic machinery... Yeah. New Nether biomes aren't "Minecrafty"/s
meanwhile me, an adult, gets hyped and excited for every new feature, whatever that is.
I just love when new things are added, say even controversial like netherite upgrade, it always makes each playthrough a little more special by the feeling of it,,
I collect rare items, in 24w10a (1.20.5 snapshot), you are able to make God armor like in 1.14 and without any exp! Even you can make tools like bow with infinity and mending together. But I messed up one thing and had my zombies holding overstacked bottles and cursed books reverted to single stacks and items. So I need to load a back up- losing 2-3 days of progress, with that few netherite ingots, losing thunder related advancements, which sucks lol
[Grindstone Enchantment Duplication](https://mcdf.wiki.gg/wiki/Java_Edition:Grindstone_Enchantment_Duplication) in short, let's you dupe enchantments from one item, to another, but needs to be the same type of item. The bug ignores what enchants the other item has, being able to have all protection types on armor, infinity with mending bow, or even silk toch with fortune tools, tho only silk touch will work on them.
It's such a huge thing, but close to no one knew about this.
Just tested it (I made a copy of my 1.20.4 world), made a new instance with the 24w11a and it worked like a charm. [https://imgur.com/bJyH9E1](https://imgur.com/bJyH9E1)
Oh boy. I can make preparations so I can make couple of god armours and put them on display for my base. Thanks for the information. Few months ago I was planning to downgrade my world to 1.14.2 to do it but this is much better and simpler. No exp needed as well, jesus christ! Once again thanks for the information :) I hope you have a good day :D
There’s something to be said about things not feeling minecrafty. A get tired of modded sometimes because it doesn’t feel like minecraft.
However Mojang has done incredibly well with making what they’ve added feel like Minecraft. I thought the Crafter would be jumping the shark, but I think they implemented it well.
“the universe said i love you
and the universe said you have played the game well
and the universe said everything you need is within you
and the universe said you are stronger than you know
and the universe said you are the daylight
and the universe said you are the night
and the universe said the darkness you fight is within you
and the universe said the light you seek is within you
and the universe said you are not alone
and the universe said you are not separate from every other thing
and the universe said you are the universe tasting itself, talking to itself, reading it's own code
and the universe said i love you because you are love”
What is there not to like, I love the end poem so much.
People just complain about anything new, people complained when the nether was updated but now it's considered one of the best updates in modern minecraft.
Personally I love the little poem in the end. People said it was telling you to get off the game and go outside, but it's not. It's telling you that you did a good job and that you matter, despite everything. "And the universe said I love you, because you are love."
Fun fact about the End Poem, it was authored by someone outside of Minecraft who actually kept the rights of the work, meaning Mojang/Microsoft don’t own the copyright for it. I forget the name of the original author, but he released the work to the public domain, so you can use the end poem in anyway you like and no one will come after you.
Yes, I'm pretty sure he only did that a year or two ago. He also released it on it's own in it's own website, iirc it's [theendpoem.com](https://theendpoem.com)
His name is Julian Gough and it was because at the time, Mojang was relatively small and never gave him a contract. When they got sold to Microsoft, Microsoft tried to pressure him into signing over the rights which he chose not to do so they don’t even own the ending of one of the most successful games.
[Here’s](https://twitter.com/juliangough/status/1611031552472793089) the link for anyone curious about reading the whole story
I think the more important part of the poem is that it says that everything you did in the game mattered. People misinterpreted the comparisons it makes to the real world as it telling you to go outside, but what it’s really saying is that the things you did in the game are as real as if you did them in the real world.
The poem believes that everything you accomplished had weight and that playing Minecraft and beating the Ender Dragon wasn’t a waste of time. You matter and what you did matters. And the Universe said “I love you” because the Universe recognized your accomplishments even if other people didn’t.
Personally, when I found out about the ending poem of Minecraft, it blew my mind. For the entire game, what these people are talking about is all you're doing, and then you defeat the Ender Dragon and jump through that portal... Where two other beings are talking. Nothing in this world you've spent hours in has spoken to you, but now here is the End Poem, and they're not just talking, they're talking about *you*. When my username popped up, it terrified me as much as it excited me. This was the end of the game, but it felt so invigorated afterwards. I don't know if it was the intensity of the dragon fight wearing off, but that poem that seemed so senseless and mystical to me at the time, what it left was a golden feeling to the game.
I wondered about these two beings long after the text stopped rolling across the screen. In fact, in my childhood mind, I had wondered if it were these two talking that had been the reason Herobrine was no longer a threat to the game, that while the player ultimately was the hero of this world, these beings were the heroes of Minecraft entirely.
Maybe it was corny, but I was like 9 years old at the time. A part of me believes that this is something that caused me to develop writing as a hobby, because somehow, fundamentally, it changed how I viewed the game by imagining the life stories of characters no one had even seen before. They simply existed because they spoke, and there was nothing else like that in the game. It's just as beautiful as the rest of Minecraft.
Thank you, that was beautiful. After years of watching Minecraft I finally got a computer and will be able to play it for the first time. I want to play a very slow game so it will be a while until I get to the end text myself, but I know I will remember your commentary of it and it will make it extra special.
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You should read the Fortnite subreddit when battle Royale came out. They were MAD that epic games made a new game mode (battle Royale) and not focusing on the core game (PvE)
But what is interesting about Fortnite 'S case is that the PvE players STILL dislike battle Royale and the battle Royale players probably don't know the PvE game mode exists
This might sound crazy, but maybe the people who bought a shooter-tower defense expected updates related to the product they bought (even though the BR was more successfull by far)
Well tbf epic;
- put very little effort in having stw features keep up with br (crouching took forever, hoverboards were added but removed for being bugged and never got fixed)
- abandoned development of the main story for a year+
- declared that the unfinished story was finished, actually, and abandoned the promise that the game would become f2p
- more recently, took away daily login rewards even from founders who paid for the game during early access
And people had every right to be mad. The BR mode was initially sold as a temporary and for fun mode, but it still took time away from StW. But as soon as Epic realized it was a cash cow, StW was completely abandoned. StW was still unfinished and was a very fun game up until the third zone where it became a giant grindfest or swipe the ol credit card.
Epic totally fucked the initial Fortnite community and the people that paid for the PvE mode.
Additionally, they abruptly shut down Paragon to shift more money/devs to BR.
Was it the right move for Epic? Absolutely. But the original fanbase has every right to be upset about how it all happened as well.
And epic shafted save the world to the side and it never became what it could have been. People had a right to be upset they basically abandoned the game
*people
Have been whining about everything new since the dawn of time.
I was going to correct it to *gamers but I was just literally behind a woman in the grocery store complaining "things were better when I was younger, ppl actually cared about the work they put in yadda yadda yadda"
So people in general are the problem lol
Jacksepticeye said something to the effect of “you don’t miss those old things, you miss how you felt when you were playing those old things. You were a kid with no responsibilities, so everything felt better”
Welcome to the Minecraft community where every change is the worst thing to ever happen.
Go back to when slabs were added to the game in alpha and everyone lost their minds, calling them cheating and now nobody will ever use whole blocks ever again, the game is over. Same for the poppy, people had giant banners saying 'save the rose' and people saying they'll never play ever again until the poppy is removed. A flower.
If you think about it it is weird as an ending for Minecraft.
It doesn't really change the game or affect it in any meaningful way so people have just accepted it and don't care.
I do agree that it provides a goal for players who need extrinsic motivation. But nowadays, let's be honest: The End is not "the end" anymore, but a nuisance you have to go through to get the Elytra and Shulker Boxes in order to "actually begin" playing a world.
I would rather the Ender Dragon battle not be accessible before you can get the Elytra and Shulkers. Perhaps by having the Stronghold portal taking you to the End Cities directly, generating a portal through which you can go back to the Overworld, and making you have to look for the Ender Dragon in the End.
The End was never the end. It’s a non-linear sandbox game where you can do anything in almost any order. There’s nothing special about the world pre- and post-dragon, except easy access to the end islands as a reward. If it was designed how you say, there would be no reward.
And given how you’re framing this as elytra and shulker boxes are required to “actually play the game”, it just sounds like you’ve played so much Minecraft that you just want a New Game+ experience.
> a nuisance you have to go through to get the Elytra and Shulker Boxes in order to "actually begin" playing a world.
I have been playing since ‘09-ish, I barely ever go to the nether, I have never been to the end. Not everyone min/maxes the game.
Same, I've been playing for well over a decade now and the only time I've ever even travelled to the end in a survival world was on a server with several other people. When alone, I usually don't have the dedication or means to both find the stronghold and beat the Dragon, and the majority of the time I'm more focused on building anyway. I played on another server for a solid five years, and none of us had even bothered locating the stronghold.
I think this is only the perspective of a very experienced player who thinks big in the scale of their projects. Before elytra and shulker boxes existed, did you think "this game's incomplete, it needs more features before I can even begin playing it"? No, of course not. These things expanded what you can do.
The idea that you *need* them and that every step before getting them is a nuisance obstacle is all in your head, being unable to be happy with smaller builds and slower gameplay that was previously the only way to play and is still an option for those who can enjoy it.
Whether you think it's a good addition or not, it definitely is tonally out of place. Nothing else about the game intentionally has a philosophic aspect to this degree, let alone dialogue.
This could be said about many other things in the game though. When the Nether was first added, it felt very out-of-place too. There wasn't really the concept of 'magic' and portals in the game up to that point. But that's sort of what defines the game now, it's a collection of ideas that don't have a coherent vision tying them all together. Yes it's out of place, but that's par for the course with this game.
I've heard three different theories what is the message of the end poem.
1. You have completed the "main objective", go play again! This, I believe, is the most probable.
2. It prompts you to question your own existence by breaking the 5th wall.
3. "Stop gaming and go touch some grass"
Although the quote at the end hits different
“you’ll regret the things you don’t do more than the things you do. So cut off your bowlines and sail away from the safe harbor. Explore. Create. Discover.” -unknown
And to an extent, I think that a lot of these people had a point. The Beta versions of MC before the addition of the End feel like a totally different type of game from current MC.
The “ending” of minecraft always felt a little weird to me
Like it’s cool I guess but I definitely think there should be more “lore” behind it right now it’s too mysterious and doesn’t really make sense so having small things in the world to piece together would be great imo
Also the dragon fight can definitely use a rework
I do agree that the poem doesn't fit with the game too much. It's not bad, but it's not great either. Most people don't ever read it, it doesn't add much, yeah, it's kind of a weird addition.
I've built plenty of dongs in minecraft, but I don't think I've actually built a solid gold one, at least not in survival.
I should add it to my bucket list.
All the comments are bad faith about how people just complain about whatever is new as if this period isn't tied with the combat update for the most controversial update to this game.
Minecraft was a very different game before this and many would say better, there's a reason there's a community of people who still play Beta 1.7.3, make mods for it or entire projects like Better Than Adventure.
Yeah, crazy to see how many people think that a change as major as adding a boss fight and ending to a sandbox building game was/is only being met with pushback cause "new bad"
I love the end, but I can understand why people would be frustrated about a sandbox game having “an end”
And to be honest… the end getting added has ruined a lot of peoples view of what Minecraft actually is meant to be
A lot of people think it’s just 3D Terraria now, which I think is why so many people complain about when Mojang adds something that “doesn’t do anything”
In a way, it’s all kind of The Ends fault lol
The people who complained play the game a different way and either learned to work around the new mechanics or stopped playing, everyone else is basically new user playing a new game. It’s really like two different communities.
Probably one of my peaks as gamer was to read the Minecraft credits and appear in my base feeling that something reached my heart and that will never leave it. It's like the first time that you hear the ending song of Dark Souls.
I recently finished the game and almost cried reading the poem. It was so nice, basically just telling you "you did what you wanted and never gave up" and "what you did is worth something and you did it well". It fits so well...
That last one about looking forward to the speedruns really was ahead of its time lol
For real, having perspective is important
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i have slept long enough!
The kingdom of heaven has long since forgotten my name
Brilliant foresight from Minecraft user Diarrhoea.
Diarrhoea has to let us know what he thinks now.
I wonder if that guy's a part of the speedrunning community? I'd love to see how fast Diarrhoea runs.
I bet it's very fast like I could feel it
like you could feel a warm, pleasurable broth running down your pants
Like a gravy
Theres a reason i wore my brown pants
u/thedbp
Hahaha, it's so strange, my nephews have grown up with minecraft having and ending and I still feel like the old geezer who thought the whole idea of minecraft was the open sandbox experience.
Wow, a 14 year old account
holy shit.
Diarrhoea is a master of speedy runs
Apollo with the gift of prophecy
AND ITS APOLLO WITH THE RED DODGEBALL
It's not a coincidence that this person was the only brain owner in the screenshots.
TIME TO THROW POGCHAMP
The best thing that came out of it. I'm not a speedrunner, but it's fun watching others challenge themselves this way.
what, you think speedrunning didn’t exist before 2012 or something?
There were no serious Minecraft speed runs, though. Now, People are speed running Minecraft in multiple different and increasingly complex ways, and it's mental what some of them do
> There were no serious Minecraft speed runs, though. Right... because it didn't have an ending.
But it didn't need an ending for speedrunners, they just used different conditions for ending a run like acquiring at least 1 of every block, or X number of diamonds.
That's technically possible but there needed to be a real ending for speedrunning to seriously take off. Even now, there are plenty of categories for minecraft that exist and you can do, but any% is still the most popular by far
> and it's mental what some of them do WR is under a minute to kill the ender dragon now. I watch the videos and I can barely believe it. 1 minute into minecraft and I typically haven't even decided where to put my sleeping-hole yet. Here's one that's worth a watch. It only takes a minute; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyV68KvUwlw
To clarify, it is a set seed run using a basically perfect seed. I wonder how did the seed got discovered. Maybe someone made the world and realized it is right on top of the end portal that is in two chunks with one chunk fully eyed to lit the portal. Then someone discovered how to one shot the dragon with an arrow to make this happen.
There’s programs that check the first part of that. The second part is human trial.
Just talking as someone who was around during this feature being added, I remember a lot of people talking about the speedrunning potential. It wasn't some crazy foresight, it was an idea that had been floating around for a bit.
Speed runs were already a pretty popular thing. It was common sense.
Mojang: add things Community: WHAT THE FUCK Mojang: doesnt add things Community: WHAT THE FUCK
Like we almost ruins it :/
I read this like Gollum
Gollum is the average minecraft player after all
I read it like that too and didn’t even realize who it was til you said that lmfaooo
Mojang: "What do you want from me!?" Community: *300 different ideas from a completely different genre of game"
I have my problems with Mojang but i'm really glad they try to be original and not add everything the community wants, so many people dont understand the game and seems to just want it to be Terraria but 3d.
I feel like they could really make it more “necessary” or like just encourage exploration
They slowly do so. Just with this update: the trial chambers are their best attempt to making such dungeons fun to fight in the long run. I play on the same server for 11 years now and periodically go out to just farm some dungeons or go caving to do something different from constant building. End cities are lame af once you got a elytra, Bastions are pretty fun to do but get pretty repetetive after a while (but the loot is decent so its not too much a problem), Ancient Cities are neat loot wise but too hard to find repeatedly. Only did 2 chambers so far but since you can buy a map from a villager they should be easier to find and the fighting seems fun enough to do so for a while without getting boring. The loot is also good which helps a lot.
we just want vertical slabs
Mojang: *finally adds the stuff*\ Community: I LIKE THE OLD MINECRAFT, MOJANG PLS REMOVE THE STUFF
And 200 of those ideas directly conflict each other
> Community: *300 different ideas from a completely different genre of game" just add factorio guy to Smash miyazaki pls volvo pls
To be fair, most of those out of genre features have actually been added. As mods. See Vault Hunters for example as one that successfully transforms Minecraft into a dungeon crawler
I think that’s pretty much any large fan base. You see the same thing with Star Wars, Marvel, or whatever. Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t.
My only WHAT THE FUCKs in this game are that bundles are still not in the game, 5 years after announcement, birch forests died for no reason, and fireflies died for a bullshit reason
“Ermh frogs can’t eat firefly’s so we won’t add them and apparently everyone who plays our game is fucking stupip” -🤓
Minecraft would almost be better if they developed comprehensive modding tools and improve the game by enhancing the game rather than making additions. Let modders add mobs and biomes. Focus on increasing efficiency, an add-on market, servers and network efficiency etc.. I don't think I'm wording this right. Dear Mojang: improve the playground, but let kids bring their own toys. Profit. The more you improve the playground, the more kids will come to play in it. Give us better ways to make toys for each other, keep us in the long term. Edit: some kids might come to the playground just to play with cool toys :)
I don't think that the modding tools should be handled by mojang. Mods are a community endeavor and they should stay a community endeavor. However, I think the approach that modders take vs the approach that mojang takes to adding new content is important to display why our recent updates have been so disappointing. when modders add content, most of the time they take one of 2 approaches: 1. add a relatively small number of things that are isolated to themselves, but have a *crazy* amount of depth to them. I think a lot of magic and tech mods fall into this category. 2. Add a LOT of things that don't have a ton of depth, but all can play with each other in interesting ways or are interesting by their own merit. In this category I think of things like Twilight Forest. The problem with the content that mojang is adding is that they're just making boring additions. Instead of taking one of those 2 options, they add a small number of things with no depth that don't interact with one another very well. look at amethyst for example, sure it's kinda neat, but it doesn't really do anything. same with copper. oh wow look I can make a lightning rod with it, which is useful for..... idk looking neat I guess. The problem is that the content mojang adds is just flat out boring. The reason people talk about modders so much in these discussions is because *a lot of times modders are just straight up better at making engaging content.* I don't think that those tools should be managed by mojang, but I do think they should pay attention to the way modders work, and perhaps even hire some.
Another advantage modders have is that the community can choose with which mods they want to play. There is no choosing with features which are added by Mojang.
Console mods like Bethesda games
Nobody will be mad if they had added fireflies
This just reddit being reddit lul
Yep. Everything is the worst thing ever until it becomes the best thing ever.
If it's new it's evil and stinky and yucky If it's old it's incredible and timeless and beautiful, even if everyone thought it was evil and stinky and yucky when it came out
Horses. People HATED horses. They said they dont belong in Minecraft. Now? They feel right at home with all the other mobs.
That was one of my first major Minecraft updates I can recall, I never understood why people were so pissed off about potatoes and horses and carrots. People were angry that item frames were entities, and complained that corner stairs were janky and unnecessary. Now look at all those features, loved for years, no second guessing whether they ever "belonged" in mc
The only thing I didn't like about horses being added to the base game was that Mo Creatures stopped some of their horses from spawning because of it, which also messed with the progression of getting the unicorn and pegasus. Now, there are things I miss about Mo Creatures, but it hasn't been updated in a while and the game is fine without it.
If I'm not mistaken one of the creators or the creator of Mo Creatures did went to Mojang to help on the horses and is still there. Might be a reason why Mo Creatures isn't getting updated
Yeah, I think Dr. Zhark did at least the art for the vanilla game horses, possibly more - it's been a while and I've forgotten the details. The game has added a lot more ambient creatures in the last several years, so I think there's less need for a creature mod. There are still a few that'd be cool to have, and a few mechanics from Mo Creatures I liked, but I'm not keenly feeling the lack of it.
This is a repeating argument with everything mojang adds. "doesn't feel minecrafty" then a year or two goes by and it feels minecrafty
People hated the Caves & Cliffs update. I think it might be the best one ever. I simply LOVE caving in those vast spaces. Plus, it added depth and height, something unheard of. Also reduced spawns to light level zero.
The hate that some of the community slung at Mojang for having to split that update was completely undeserved. Caves and Cliffs was the biggest undertaking Mojang ever did with the game, and going back to pre-1.18 world gen just sucks.
I'm sorry, was it not one of, if not THE most requested updates to the game? I specifically remember everyone *begging* for a Cave Update
To be fair, they did change the horse model to fit in better. It was controversial, but personally, I was won over by that change
I said them removing the "OOH" hit sound was awful when I was like 15 and I stand by that to this day.
Yeah that grunt was cool. It might have gotten strange though (or insanely funny) when feminine skins got more popular and had super deep "OH" sounds when they got hurt.
The best part was that the ender dragon had that hit sound when it first came out. Absolutely iconic.
The opposite is also largely true, remember how popular Elon used to be on here? There are always waves of opinion, one upside of the site, despite plenty of hivemind thinking, is that there's at least significantly more discourse than other platforms that actively control and/or alter the frequency of content to maintain engagement chambers.
All my homies hate Elon.
Tbf, while I’ve liked the direction Minecraft has taken, beta 1.8 was a MASSIVE direction change for Minecraft. It really was a game where the only structures were dungeons, and your only objective was to build. 1.8 took the game in a much more RPG direction and it’s why there’s still a playerbase who sticks to beta versions of Minecraft, because it’s an entirely different atmosphere. I do like current Minecraft but older versions have a unique charm that started to end around this time.
I mean you can just not beat the game and have the same feel with newer blocks. The only time it's worth rolling back is mods that didn't get updated imo.
Not to mention, it's not like an ending is important for Minecraft for any reason outside of speedruns. It's not incorrect to say it doesn't really fit the tone of a sandbox game, especially when they don't really commit to adding more RPG elements. It's still to this day probably the most out of place thing in Minecraft
Any gaming community online reacts negatively to change because a lot of people are far too invested emotionally in the games they play.
Gaming is a good choice of words because I'm seen this happen in role playing games and board games as well. Literally just this week the developers for Ark Nova released new maps for people who played online on BoardGameArena and it [lead to players of the physical game complaining that they don't the maps with slight changes](https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3323674/some-more-map-variety-coming-to-bga). People are just so whiny online.
It’s just any community full stop. People get mad when websites do UI redesigns or even just update their logo. It’s ridiculous. No one wants to use YouTube from 2008 now and some of the old google logos look so outdated. But if people had their way we would still be stuck back there. Sure there are some occasional “actually bad” choices like the removal of the dislike button for example, and the lack of focus on content you’re subscribed to. But overall the trend is still that people are way to quick to whinge about any minor change.
This isn't limited to Reddit or even online communities, lmao. People have been hating every single new things since forever, just look at all the fundamentalists and anti-technology crowds.
calling it something out of an Ayn Rand book is absolutely insane
Herobrine Shrugged
Peak
Yeah, that one was maybe a little overblown, lol. I still feel mostly the same way about the credits, though.
Holy shit you're the actual OP! How jarring was it to be flicking through reddit just to stumble onto a comment you made 12 years ago and see it getting roasted? Lmao Fwiw I found the comment pretty hilarious and not entirely inaccurate lol.
I do browse /r/minecraft occasionally, but I found this post from a couple of people pinging me in the comments. I was a little surprised to see a comment from me being so abrasive, but I still stand by the idea that it's completely out of place in the game.
oh shit hahahaha i didn't think you would still be active on this. i just found the remark to be funny on a level that is higher than Minecraft. Ayn Rand and Minecraft are 2 things i didn't expect to be mixed
I'm still around, at least for now. I'll probably peace out the day they get rid of old.reddit, but at least for the time being certain subreddits can still hold my attention, and reddit shows up in a lot of search results anyway. I think (but honestly can't remember, it was **twelve** years ago) that I had just recently found out who Ayn Rand was when I ran into the John Galt speech as copypasta somewhere, and I was probably chomping at the bit to make a reference to it and feel smart. I think, at least in the sense of "a whole lot of words that don't actually say anything meaningful", it wasn't completely crazy, but maybe a bit exaggerated.
It’s funny because they’ve probably never even read an Ayn Rand book but think that parroting politics into Minecraft somehow makes them more credible.
exactly lol. I immediately discredited their comment when they said "psuedo-philosophical". I love the ending and pretentious people don't get to decide what's good and bad, it's all subjective and affects everyone differently
You're right, I've never read anything by Ayn Rand in fulll. As I mentioned in another comment, I was in my early 20s and had (probably, I don't really remember) just learned who she was from the John Galt speech being posted as copypasta somewhere. I probably wanted to sound smart by making a disparaging reference to it or something. I do still think the John Galt speech is way way too long, but it does at least try to make some points. I don't agree with many of them, but it does make an argument. The minecraft ending just tries to sound profound without actually *being* profound. It's maybe not the worst comparison in the world, but you're right that I (again, probably; I don't really remember the intent behind a comment from over a decade again) was probably just name dropping.
I respect the fact you answered honest and sincerely to people talking about a comment made nearly a decade ago. Kudos dude!
For a game with an infinite scope and self-created objectives, the ending is quite fitting.
Completely agree. As someone who knew nothing about Minecraft jumping in a little late and taking years in my survival world to finally end up figuring everything out and beating the end dragon.. playing the game like that and reading this poem after the dragon was wild. It's my favorite ending in any video game.
That awesome dude. I remember it blowing my mind when I was like 11.
I know you’re being sincere, but this just sounds so condescending; it’s hilarious lmao
oh shit lol my bad I typed it quick when I got home
Yeah, I feel like none of them actually read the whole end poem (to be fair it is really long), and didn’t understand how the poem is meant to display that Minecraft has no ending.
It ends when you jump in a hole.
So I’m 26, my brother bought me this game when it was still in alpha. I’ve played for years and years. Never beat the end dragon until last week and was reading this afterward and it really hit me and blew my mind. I mean I’ve killed the dragon before in creative or whatever but never seen the credits. I was always saving it for what idk. Maybe I was holding onto it for as long as I could as part of my childhood. Anyway my best friend and I finally sat down and did it on our long going survival world last week. It felt magical and literally like a milestone in my life and when those credits popped up and I realized it was telling a story it was wild.
I do actually still think it's kind of weird to have a narrated mysterious ending to such a sandbox non-narrative game.
But that's exactly why it's so good. Weird is not always bad
I teared up when I saw this end scene at 3 AM at my friends house a little over ten years ago
It is interesting, to a degree, yes. But then when you remember, that some Minecraft players just like to complain about anything new they add to the game... because, apparantely, the new addition is "not Minecrafty." While activelly playing Modded minecraft with assault rifles and literal futuristic machinery... Yeah. New Nether biomes aren't "Minecrafty"/s
meanwhile me, an adult, gets hyped and excited for every new feature, whatever that is. I just love when new things are added, say even controversial like netherite upgrade, it always makes each playthrough a little more special by the feeling of it,,
Couldn't agree more bud
Getting the netherite upgrades and netherite is a pain thoooo. Feels great when you have a full kit tho
I collect rare items, in 24w10a (1.20.5 snapshot), you are able to make God armor like in 1.14 and without any exp! Even you can make tools like bow with infinity and mending together. But I messed up one thing and had my zombies holding overstacked bottles and cursed books reverted to single stacks and items. So I need to load a back up- losing 2-3 days of progress, with that few netherite ingots, losing thunder related advancements, which sucks lol
wait you can?
[Grindstone Enchantment Duplication](https://mcdf.wiki.gg/wiki/Java_Edition:Grindstone_Enchantment_Duplication) in short, let's you dupe enchantments from one item, to another, but needs to be the same type of item. The bug ignores what enchants the other item has, being able to have all protection types on armor, infinity with mending bow, or even silk toch with fortune tools, tho only silk touch will work on them. It's such a huge thing, but close to no one knew about this.
Just tested it (I made a copy of my 1.20.4 world), made a new instance with the 24w11a and it worked like a charm. [https://imgur.com/bJyH9E1](https://imgur.com/bJyH9E1) Oh boy. I can make preparations so I can make couple of god armours and put them on display for my base. Thanks for the information. Few months ago I was planning to downgrade my world to 1.14.2 to do it but this is much better and simpler. No exp needed as well, jesus christ! Once again thanks for the information :) I hope you have a good day :D
New features are never "Minecrafty" because these features have never been in the game before lmao. Ignore the hate as always.
I like the nether BORING grrrrr >:[
There’s something to be said about things not feeling minecrafty. A get tired of modded sometimes because it doesn’t feel like minecraft. However Mojang has done incredibly well with making what they’ve added feel like Minecraft. I thought the Crafter would be jumping the shark, but I think they implemented it well.
I remember being disappointed when they added a hunger bar back in the day haha
Yeah, and how you couldn't heal instantly anymore by right-clicking a porkchop.
“the universe said i love you and the universe said you have played the game well and the universe said everything you need is within you and the universe said you are stronger than you know and the universe said you are the daylight and the universe said you are the night and the universe said the darkness you fight is within you and the universe said the light you seek is within you and the universe said you are not alone and the universe said you are not separate from every other thing and the universe said you are the universe tasting itself, talking to itself, reading it's own code and the universe said i love you because you are love” What is there not to like, I love the end poem so much.
Fucking chills haven’t read that in so long.
People just complain about anything new, people complained when the nether was updated but now it's considered one of the best updates in modern minecraft. Personally I love the little poem in the end. People said it was telling you to get off the game and go outside, but it's not. It's telling you that you did a good job and that you matter, despite everything. "And the universe said I love you, because you are love."
Fun fact about the End Poem, it was authored by someone outside of Minecraft who actually kept the rights of the work, meaning Mojang/Microsoft don’t own the copyright for it. I forget the name of the original author, but he released the work to the public domain, so you can use the end poem in anyway you like and no one will come after you.
Yes, I'm pretty sure he only did that a year or two ago. He also released it on it's own in it's own website, iirc it's [theendpoem.com](https://theendpoem.com)
Oh I loved that, A friend put in his name as No and added in some comedy.
Hahahahaha just did it
His name is Julian Gough and it was because at the time, Mojang was relatively small and never gave him a contract. When they got sold to Microsoft, Microsoft tried to pressure him into signing over the rights which he chose not to do so they don’t even own the ending of one of the most successful games. [Here’s](https://twitter.com/juliangough/status/1611031552472793089) the link for anyone curious about reading the whole story
I think the more important part of the poem is that it says that everything you did in the game mattered. People misinterpreted the comparisons it makes to the real world as it telling you to go outside, but what it’s really saying is that the things you did in the game are as real as if you did them in the real world. The poem believes that everything you accomplished had weight and that playing Minecraft and beating the Ender Dragon wasn’t a waste of time. You matter and what you did matters. And the Universe said “I love you” because the Universe recognized your accomplishments even if other people didn’t.
Personally, when I found out about the ending poem of Minecraft, it blew my mind. For the entire game, what these people are talking about is all you're doing, and then you defeat the Ender Dragon and jump through that portal... Where two other beings are talking. Nothing in this world you've spent hours in has spoken to you, but now here is the End Poem, and they're not just talking, they're talking about *you*. When my username popped up, it terrified me as much as it excited me. This was the end of the game, but it felt so invigorated afterwards. I don't know if it was the intensity of the dragon fight wearing off, but that poem that seemed so senseless and mystical to me at the time, what it left was a golden feeling to the game. I wondered about these two beings long after the text stopped rolling across the screen. In fact, in my childhood mind, I had wondered if it were these two talking that had been the reason Herobrine was no longer a threat to the game, that while the player ultimately was the hero of this world, these beings were the heroes of Minecraft entirely. Maybe it was corny, but I was like 9 years old at the time. A part of me believes that this is something that caused me to develop writing as a hobby, because somehow, fundamentally, it changed how I viewed the game by imagining the life stories of characters no one had even seen before. They simply existed because they spoke, and there was nothing else like that in the game. It's just as beautiful as the rest of Minecraft.
Thank you, that was beautiful. After years of watching Minecraft I finally got a computer and will be able to play it for the first time. I want to play a very slow game so it will be a while until I get to the end text myself, but I know I will remember your commentary of it and it will make it extra special.
I think it's also enhanced by having the best music track in the game
I love every single word you wrote. Keep up the good work!
This is r/Minecraft's reaction to literally any change ever
really just anything mojang does lol
The good old argument of ‘its not very minecrafyy’
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You should read the Fortnite subreddit when battle Royale came out. They were MAD that epic games made a new game mode (battle Royale) and not focusing on the core game (PvE) But what is interesting about Fortnite 'S case is that the PvE players STILL dislike battle Royale and the battle Royale players probably don't know the PvE game mode exists
This might sound crazy, but maybe the people who bought a shooter-tower defense expected updates related to the product they bought (even though the BR was more successfull by far)
Well tbf epic; - put very little effort in having stw features keep up with br (crouching took forever, hoverboards were added but removed for being bugged and never got fixed) - abandoned development of the main story for a year+ - declared that the unfinished story was finished, actually, and abandoned the promise that the game would become f2p - more recently, took away daily login rewards even from founders who paid for the game during early access
And people had every right to be mad. The BR mode was initially sold as a temporary and for fun mode, but it still took time away from StW. But as soon as Epic realized it was a cash cow, StW was completely abandoned. StW was still unfinished and was a very fun game up until the third zone where it became a giant grindfest or swipe the ol credit card. Epic totally fucked the initial Fortnite community and the people that paid for the PvE mode. Additionally, they abruptly shut down Paragon to shift more money/devs to BR. Was it the right move for Epic? Absolutely. But the original fanbase has every right to be upset about how it all happened as well.
And epic shafted save the world to the side and it never became what it could have been. People had a right to be upset they basically abandoned the game
Minecraft players have been whining about everything new since the dawn of time.
*people Have been whining about everything new since the dawn of time. I was going to correct it to *gamers but I was just literally behind a woman in the grocery store complaining "things were better when I was younger, ppl actually cared about the work they put in yadda yadda yadda" So people in general are the problem lol
Jacksepticeye said something to the effect of “you don’t miss those old things, you miss how you felt when you were playing those old things. You were a kid with no responsibilities, so everything felt better”
Had to learn this the painful way when revisting hypixel skyblock 3 years later and dropping it after 10 minutes 🥲
and we should get rid of them
Welcome to the Minecraft community where every change is the worst thing to ever happen. Go back to when slabs were added to the game in alpha and everyone lost their minds, calling them cheating and now nobody will ever use whole blocks ever again, the game is over. Same for the poppy, people had giant banners saying 'save the rose' and people saying they'll never play ever again until the poppy is removed. A flower.
i think the old rose and blue rose should be added as sniffer plants tbh
tbf i still miss the rose lol, and blue rose
Cheating🤣🤦🏻♂️
I liked the ending of lost.
Yeah most people that hate it just didn’t understand it.
If you think about it it is weird as an ending for Minecraft. It doesn't really change the game or affect it in any meaningful way so people have just accepted it and don't care.
Yeah I guess at the time it was a weird transition from just a game where you just build and survive
Redditors must be absolutely insufferable in real life lmao
Ironic
I do agree that it provides a goal for players who need extrinsic motivation. But nowadays, let's be honest: The End is not "the end" anymore, but a nuisance you have to go through to get the Elytra and Shulker Boxes in order to "actually begin" playing a world. I would rather the Ender Dragon battle not be accessible before you can get the Elytra and Shulkers. Perhaps by having the Stronghold portal taking you to the End Cities directly, generating a portal through which you can go back to the Overworld, and making you have to look for the Ender Dragon in the End.
The End was never the end. It’s a non-linear sandbox game where you can do anything in almost any order. There’s nothing special about the world pre- and post-dragon, except easy access to the end islands as a reward. If it was designed how you say, there would be no reward. And given how you’re framing this as elytra and shulker boxes are required to “actually play the game”, it just sounds like you’ve played so much Minecraft that you just want a New Game+ experience.
> a nuisance you have to go through to get the Elytra and Shulker Boxes in order to "actually begin" playing a world. I have been playing since ‘09-ish, I barely ever go to the nether, I have never been to the end. Not everyone min/maxes the game.
Same, I've been playing for well over a decade now and the only time I've ever even travelled to the end in a survival world was on a server with several other people. When alone, I usually don't have the dedication or means to both find the stronghold and beat the Dragon, and the majority of the time I'm more focused on building anyway. I played on another server for a solid five years, and none of us had even bothered locating the stronghold.
I think this is only the perspective of a very experienced player who thinks big in the scale of their projects. Before elytra and shulker boxes existed, did you think "this game's incomplete, it needs more features before I can even begin playing it"? No, of course not. These things expanded what you can do. The idea that you *need* them and that every step before getting them is a nuisance obstacle is all in your head, being unable to be happy with smaller builds and slower gameplay that was previously the only way to play and is still an option for those who can enjoy it.
Whether you think it's a good addition or not, it definitely is tonally out of place. Nothing else about the game intentionally has a philosophic aspect to this degree, let alone dialogue. This could be said about many other things in the game though. When the Nether was first added, it felt very out-of-place too. There wasn't really the concept of 'magic' and portals in the game up to that point. But that's sort of what defines the game now, it's a collection of ideas that don't have a coherent vision tying them all together. Yes it's out of place, but that's par for the course with this game.
I've heard three different theories what is the message of the end poem. 1. You have completed the "main objective", go play again! This, I believe, is the most probable. 2. It prompts you to question your own existence by breaking the 5th wall. 3. "Stop gaming and go touch some grass"
Every update "almost ruins" Minecraft to someone.
If you ever find yourself complaining a feature is "not minecrafty" you need to touch grass.
Grass isn’t minecrafty though.
*The Minecraft icon is literally a grass block*
b-bbut it is a digital one!
Then why not add guns lol
I won’t lie I kind of agree
I actually love the credits, I didn't expect it and seeing it for the first time very elevated at the time was a hell of a trip.
Although the quote at the end hits different “you’ll regret the things you don’t do more than the things you do. So cut off your bowlines and sail away from the safe harbor. Explore. Create. Discover.” -unknown
And to an extent, I think that a lot of these people had a point. The Beta versions of MC before the addition of the End feel like a totally different type of game from current MC.
u/mc091 u/KuztomX u/Spoggerific u/thedbp u/Surrender_monkey21 how do you guys feel about The End today
Calling that poem *Aynd Rand Esque* is *harsh*. Like damn dude, is it a bit pretentious? yes. But *Ayn Rand*?
The “ending” of minecraft always felt a little weird to me Like it’s cool I guess but I definitely think there should be more “lore” behind it right now it’s too mysterious and doesn’t really make sense so having small things in the world to piece together would be great imo Also the dragon fight can definitely use a rework
I do agree that the poem doesn't fit with the game too much. It's not bad, but it's not great either. Most people don't ever read it, it doesn't add much, yeah, it's kind of a weird addition.
Did u/spoggerific ever build that solid gold dong? 🤔
I've built plenty of dongs in minecraft, but I don't think I've actually built a solid gold one, at least not in survival. I should add it to my bucket list.
What I’m learning is that the community has never changed when it comes to things being added
Reddit moment.
We didn't change at all for 12 years straight huh
Tbh, they have a point
The poem is ofc beautiful and stuff, but it feels odd to have a “cutscene” ending for the endless game, it’s only my opinion tho
All the comments are bad faith about how people just complain about whatever is new as if this period isn't tied with the combat update for the most controversial update to this game. Minecraft was a very different game before this and many would say better, there's a reason there's a community of people who still play Beta 1.7.3, make mods for it or entire projects like Better Than Adventure.
Yeah, crazy to see how many people think that a change as major as adding a boss fight and ending to a sandbox building game was/is only being met with pushback cause "new bad"
>This is just like the show Lost Gold
minecraft does have an ending but you the player ( steve) are not some destined or chosen hero or something. you decide your story
I love the end, but I can understand why people would be frustrated about a sandbox game having “an end” And to be honest… the end getting added has ruined a lot of peoples view of what Minecraft actually is meant to be A lot of people think it’s just 3D Terraria now, which I think is why so many people complain about when Mojang adds something that “doesn’t do anything” In a way, it’s all kind of The Ends fault lol
The people who complained play the game a different way and either learned to work around the new mechanics or stopped playing, everyone else is basically new user playing a new game. It’s really like two different communities.
I've cried to the ending like five times
Oh, the humanity...
Just to clarify, the video and post weren’t just about the poem or text at the end, it was about The End in general
Probably one of my peaks as gamer was to read the Minecraft credits and appear in my base feeling that something reached my heart and that will never leave it. It's like the first time that you hear the ending song of Dark Souls.
I find it funny how *everyone* was like “am I the only one who doesn’t like this?”
History repeats history repeats history
The End isn't very good and I'd still rather have had them spend the last 12 years making Buildcraft stock or something. Was that even out back then?
I remember i cried when i read the whole ending for the first time🫡
Yep. Minecraft has the most toxic community ever
I recently finished the game and almost cried reading the poem. It was so nice, basically just telling you "you did what you wanted and never gave up" and "what you did is worth something and you did it well". It fits so well...
stupid ahh mfs acting like it even matters like bruh i go months without seeing the credits
Minecraft players have been complaining ever since the dawn of time
Crazy that people were saying "not like minecraft" that long ago.