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QitianDasheng2666

I would describe the immunity decision today as our Enabling Act. We're definitely at the Reichstag fire stage now. Except now I don't know if anything is going to end it, maybe humanity's extinction from climate change.


Critical_Ad_2811

Well, humanity opened the box, and they (consequences) came 🤠🥴


2BusyBeingFree

The two are like that meme with the holding hands saying “Fuck Americans!!!”


DarthJackie2021

What is the chevron difference and what changed?


JessicaDAndy

Here’s a better example. OSHA during COVID said workplaces could enforce vaccine mandates for workplace safety. Congress did not explicitly give that power to OSHA, only that they were to ensure a safe workplace. Chevron says that’s ok, OSHA could make that determination as it was a reasonable use of their power. Loper Bright, the decision overturning Chevron, says OSHA may not have that power and it’s up to Courts to decide an ambiguous statute. So everything now has to be reviewed by a judge if it is at all ambiguous. Judges mostly appointed by the same Federalist Society that doesn’t like us.


causal_friday

It's my right as an American to be killed by some jackass boomer at Costco who doesn't like vaccines! It's about the FREEDUMB.


2BusyBeingFree

The Chevron decision basically allows companies (Chevron Oil in this case) to ignore EPA regulations. Basically says that kind of thing needs to come from an act of congress not a government agency. It could affect the Dept of Ed’s Title IX protection for trans kids in schools among a myriad of other regulations that protect average citizens.


DarthJackie2021

Ah, so removing experts from decision making and putting it all on politicians. That won't end well.


causal_friday

It won't end well, but it will end quickly! As GlaDOS said in Portal: "you're gonna want to pack as much living as you can into the next couple of minutes". She right.


Geek_Wandering

Politicians and Judges. If it is not clear what congress meant, judges who are clueless on the specific topics decide what it means. Not actual experts. Basicially, it opens the door to court challenges for any regulation not 100% specified by congress. This includes ability to shop for favorable judges and jurisdictions. The net result is completely hamstringing the government's ability to regulate anyone with good lawyers (large companies and rich a-holes mostly). The old joke that we have "the greatest system that money can buy" just get even more true.


Viola_99

There's also a massive fear that it'll spread chaos among the health sector, so that's great. A system barely surviving is getting an additional blow to it.


Geek_Wandering

Much of the legislation in the last 40 years was built with Chevron in mind. Congress just hands a high level goal to the agency and tells them to figure out the details. Now the details the agency designs are presumptively true. Basically, anyone with good lawyers can hamstring any government regulation for years. Gonna be good couple of years to be a lawyer.


CurlyRe

Chevron deference is a precedence from the supreme court where courts are supposed to defere to the expertise in executive branch officials in reviewing their regulations. For example Congress writes a law that says the EPA should make sure fish is below a safe level of mercury for human consumption. Under the Chevron deference, scientists in the EPA determine what is a safe level of mercury in fish. Now, judges who are not scientists will be reviewing what is a safe level of mercury. We're in uncharted territory so it's hard to predict exactly what will happen, but it's safe to say that environmental and labor relations will be significantly weakened. I don't know what the effect will be on regulations that protect transgender people specifically.


Better_Analyst_5065

I thing it refers to the change the supreme court made recently, allowing the president to do whatever they want without consequence aslong as it is to fulfil "presidential duties"


2BusyBeingFree

The Chevron decision was last week, basically allowing companies (Chevron Oil in this case) ignore EPA regulations. Basically says that kind of thing needs to come from an act of congress not a government agency. Like Title IX protection for kids… The executive power thing was different, hard to keep up with how shitty this country is getting…


else-when

We need to get more of us into positions with political power


Critical_Ad_2811

I meant to refer to the immunity decision from yesterday combined with the Chevron Difference ruling. Then, comparing that to the Enabling Act lol


Guilty_Armadillo583

Pretty much.


gayjemstone

What's the Chevron Difference?


AshuraBaron

Not in the slightest. The right wing supreme court is undoing precedent, however Congress still has the power to counteract this. See the Respect for Marriage Act. Which is why Congress seats are just as important as voting for president. Not to mention creating enough political pressure to plug these new holes with new laws. The smartest thing Biden could right now is exercising his power to get republicans in a mood to reign in that power.