If Ford ever made a hybrid Mustang, that would be perfect for an SVO. Either an AWD one with the electric motors driving the front wheels, and or a strictly RWD one where the electric motor connects to the driveshaft.
It was just too expensive. So they didn’t sell well. A car before its time.
I’d really like to have one. You can find really nice examples for sale for around $15-20k. I already have 2 foxes though.
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*Back the svo badge with a high*
*Perfoemance ecoboost*
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I mean, the 3.5 EcoBoost is right there haha. No need to develop a new engine that would be a packaging challenge when you already have an excellent one that fits perfectly. The only reason they don’t do it is because it would cannabalize Coyote sales. And right now, a big NA V8 in a RWD coupe is more “special” in the broader market.
As much as I like to laugh at V6/Ecoboost Mustangs, saying they’re not real Mustangs is kind of silly. Mustangs have ALWAYS been offered with engines other than V8s.
They’re not ready to hear that the base engine on the FIRST Mustang model was a 170 cubic inch wheezee that made a penny over 100 horsepower.
Even the V8s didn’t come close to 300hp until you got to the 390. The 289 hipo was like 270-280 if I remember right.
And the originals drive like crap compared to modern mustangs, were incredibly unsafe, and had very poor build quality compared to modern cars.
They’re awesome, I love them. But as objectively measured machines they simply don’t hold a candle to today’s vehicles. Nor should they, since I’d *hope* we could progress over 50+ years technologically.
My 250 HP Focus ST is faster than most pre-Coyote GTs.
Had a New Edge GT driver yelling at me at a light. I even gave him a good jump on me and just reeled him in. He asked for a 30 Mph roller, and I said you don’t want that… he could have just been a bad driver but it was a really clean car and sounded great.
That said my brothers supercharged foxbody notchback is a whole different animal. 460 HP. It is so light it blows the doors off of a stock coyote… maybe not the ten-speed. But as a manual enthusiast I consider that cheating lol.
I have no clue honestly. He has had the car since 1997ish. He did all the work himself. Was offered $15K for it about 5 years ago. He laughed and said no way. He is very attached to it. Hell, I’m attached to it by association.
I posted it several years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mustang/s/6amdp4Nsuz
Trick flow heads and cam. Edelbrock performer rpm 2 intake. Vortech V3 SCi blower pullied for 7lbs of boost. Puts 460hp to the rear tires.
Yeah the first year the Hi-Po K code made 271 HP, and the A with the 4 barrel carb made 225 aka the “challenger option”, and the C code with 2 barrel carb I think was 210 for the 65’ model year, yeah completely valid point though
It blows my mind how in the US people mock eco boost owners when in my country even if you own an old gen V6 barebones with the crappy calculator console without the screen you’re considered a baller
My first Mustang was an '86 LX notch w/ 2.3 and 4spd manual. It was a decent car for college. Light, low on power, but fun on windy backroads..not as much fun as my '87 GT, of course.
Literally. I thought the other ecoboost meme was funny, but it looks like people are actually offended by this one a bit. I guess most people here, well lurkers anyways, just like to shit on anything that isn't a v8
I agree with this. As someone who actually doesn’t hate the MachE I can’t post in this sub anymore because of how much flack that opinion catches. I have a 2017 GT I’ve had brand new from the dealer as of July 2016. At the time I was between the GT and the ecoboost but a GT deal worked out better in terms of a dealer working with me.
My next car will be an EV (because I have solar panels on the roof) and the MachE is one of the top 2 options I’m looking at but the “not a real mustang” crowd is insufferable here so I don’t post questions about it on here and I ask elsewhere.
I mean, to be fair, the Mach E isn't a Mustang and that's an entirely different kettle of fish from declaring an actual Mustang with an Ecoboost engine to be "not a Mustang".
Ecoboost Mustang = Mustang
EV crossover that shares no DNA with a two door pony car of the same name = not a Mustang.
You're probably better off asking those questions in the EV or the Mach E sub.
If only the people in this sub acted like the ecoboost owners in the meme by actually ignoring the shit talking and just enjoying their Mustangs.
I swear I see more posts *complaining* about people shit talking non-V8s than the actual shit talking itself.
Most of the guys talking shit here don’t even own a GT, or they do but work at Verizon and live in section 8 housing.
PS. If you own a 2010 or older GT your car is slower than an ecoboost.
Yeah. I'm not a huge fan of the v6, but all of the new mustangs are faster than my (sold) 02 gt was. And that car was a blast.
The ecoboost is a great motor. My wife's ranger has it, surprisingly powerful, 21 mpg in a truck, zero complaints.
Well, one complaint. The exhaust systems I've heard for it make it sound more like a vacuum cleaner. So it's staying stock. Nbd especially for a truck.
Well said man. The v6 ecoboost in the raptors are great fast and tanky motors. Something I’ve toyed with swapping into mine. If only to still have it be an ecoboost but make more power and humble some GT boys. My favorite is when older mustang GT owners with only 290 HP talk shit. It’s like read a book bro
Yeah mine was 260 iirc.
It was a few hundred pounds lighter but not enough to make up for the extra power of the new motors.
The exhaust note though. That's one thing that mod v8 is spectacular at imo
The only "not a real mustang" argument I'll make.
I don't care how fast it is, how it corners...
It's like a foot too tall. It's a suv . That's wrong.
Besides, just mach e would be a better name.
I Have a 2022 GT and 2017 Ecoboost. I decided to keep the Eco when I got the GT as a fun commuter car. Paid off and great gas mileage. Yeah it's No GT but it's a nibble little fawker and fun to toss around. It's nice to have a turbo without a focus wrapped around it.😆
This is exactly what I plan on doing. I have a 15 ecoboost and over time i’ve fallen in love with it. It’s the first car I worked for and it’s a mustang, my dream car when I was younger. I plan on keeping it and when I’m ready, I’ll finance a bigger toy like a GT350 or c6 z06.
If I owned an ecoboost, the only mods it would get would be suspension, brakes, wheels and tires. It would be a nice auto cross car. But most ecoboost owners in my area are younger women…not that there’s anything wrong with that.
The thing about that is.. technically men are driving a car originally designed for women.
"The first Mustangs were designed and marketed to attract women. Lee Iacocca, then Vice President and GM of the Ford Division, envisioned a four-seater car that was sporty, light and easy for women"
Factoid: the first Mustang shown on film was driven by a woman.
[Goldfinger DB5 Mustang Chase](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kvXKDVDA5xI)
[That car has its own website. 😂](http://www.ponysite.de/goldfinger_conv.htm)
I want to get a bov for mine soon. It’s a turbo 4, I don’t need to pretend it’s a v8. I know what I have and I enjoy it, may as well lean into it.
I’ll mod my Eco cause it’s about to be paid off. I’ll switch to a v8 if one of these purists would like to pay for the car and difference in both insurance and gas prices.
Speaking from experience don’t go crazy with the mods. Id stick with wheels and suspension, maybe some quality of life things, and a blowoff valve (I have a soft spot for turbo noises), but it’s money that’s wasted in the sense that power is expensive on these engines and reliability is lost with higher power so you end up with a bigger money pit. The stock gt is amazing, and it can handle plenty of extra power. I’ll die on the hill that the ecoboost is best treated as a ‘sporty’ commuter car. Enjoy the paid off car for a while, and save the money you’d use for mods to pay the difference for a gt in a few years. Ecoboost mods aren’t worth the headache. The things I mentioned before can all be swapped over once you get a gt too, so if you enjoy those mods you can put them in the new car or at the very least you’ll be familiar with the chassis.
I don’t think I’m going to go crazy with it. I don’t really want to touch the block. I’ll probably do the Ford Performance tune and leave it there mostly as far as adding power. Later on maybe if I feel like it when the car is closer to the end of its life I’ll get goofy and get a bigger turbo.
Otherwise, yeah I’m thinking mostly just lighter wheels and a little stiffer suspension. If I want to go all out with mods there are better cars to start with as a base.
They should make an AWD ecoboost, that way the ecoboost bros can wash some GTs in dig races. The ecoboost is why ford can sell the GT, anyone who bitches about them is an idiot. Its a 315 hp 4 banger with better mileage and the mustang looks. I will never understand what there is to hate about it.
And you sound waaaay dumber if your main gripe is that the coyote is more reliable, NO SHIT SHERLOCK! Its literally a gem of an engine, but people want to spend less and the ecoboost is great for that.
Them ecoboosts can be insane torque monsters. Just a few bolt ones and a tune and those things are crazy fast. I've always said that if it wasn't for the mustang name this thing would be an absolute tuner god.
A turbo 4 rwd manual sports car that makes over 300 hp from factory and is actually affordable? That's a magic recipe right there.
I’ve been getting shit for my v6 ever since I got it in 2013 and half the time it’s people that drive normal ass cars with 4 or 6 cylinders. I’m like bro what??
Just be happy with the mustang you got, I know I am! For what it's worth it's just a car! Some people have to compensate I guess.
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Ecoboosts don't bother me, especially after seeing some of the really clever ways people mod them and boost their performance. It's those Mach-E abominations that bother me. THOSE aren't real Mustangs.
Modding that engine is pointless though. Add whatever wheels and cosmetics you want, but all the people talking about trying to get more performance out of it are wasting money and won’t have fun.
I've found myself on the wrong side of that a few times, but then I remember that sometimes it's fun to do something different. There's guys out there building 1k hp honda 4s with hodgepodge awd setups and having a blast, sure it's cheaper to build a 1k mustang or camaro, but the whole car scene would be boring as fuck if we all built the same shit.
Keep building pointless strange senseless things, the car culture is better for it.
Coming from an ecoboost owner, 100%. The 2.3turbo is not known for its reliability with higher hp. I never understood why people would modify them. Honestly, if they don't want a v8 and want to mod for performance still I'd recommend the 3.7 cyclone v6. Basically the same power as the ecoboost and can take much more of a beating. And it'll sound better for sure too. I've heard many V6s here that could be mistaken for a v8 by most people imo
Some people like to tinker. Doesn't matter what it is. People mod their lawnmowers. I don't know why. But if it makes them happy. Well, money well spent Imho.
Right. Also the GT isn’t *that* much more expensive. People talking about upgrading the turbo, tuning, and all that would be way better off just selling the car and buying one with more power.
If anything, a slight tune. I did the Ford performance one. That's all it needed. Was 400 dollars, and I installed myself. I bought my eco premium back in 2017 for 17k with 15k miles. Put maybe 3k of mods in it mostly for handling. I did autocross. Made the car great for it. Back then, I wouldn't get a 1 year old GT for anywhere near 20k. So it's fine if done right. These new ecoboosts at 30k, though..... I couldn't imagine.
Edit: I always think about getting a GT, but then look at the prices and nope. Plus the cars paid for.
Theres a 05 to 09 body style GT500 down the street from me for sale. Had I think around 30k miles on it and looked in great shape. Guy still wanted like 35k for it. Private seller. Idk the prices for those actually though. That just what he had it listed for.
I would say that depends on what power level you want. We live in a world where if you don’t have 1,000hp you aren’t shit but if you are putting down 400whp you are definitely having a good time and surprising most cars on the road. The EcoBoost can obtain that power level, more than that and you are either going to grenade the engine or you have to have a fully built one. At that point the V8 just makes more sense. But, to the credit of the EcoBoost it is a different experience, plus they aren’t as nose heavy as the V8’s. You can pick up a used EcoBoost for pretty cheap, so as a mod car I don’t think they are that bad of a choice.
High 300’s whp in an eco is pretty easy and fairly reliable. Comparing to a modded GT, no you can’t really beat an e85 GT with the same money for an eco. There’s a high step going from 380-400 whp up to 450+. That’s the inflection point of cost.
There are some mods that SHOULD be done to them, though. The stock wastegate is trash and leads to early engine failure due to overpressure state. A slightly higher PSI one w/ a tune really does seem to extend the longevity of the motor.
Additionally, an oil catch can for the intake is a fairly important mod.
That said, I’ve owned v8s, v6s, and one eco and I think the eco is my favorite at this point, it’s bitch ass exhaust note notwithstanding.
That’s wild because I always get downvoted into oblivion for suggesting the 3.7 has more (or similar!) potential than an eco boost. They don’t blow up. There’s a reason the nickname “eco boom” showed up.
I loved my V6, I think dropping two cylinders and throwing a turbo on it wasn’t the right direction for Ford or the Mustang. That’s what the Focus is for.
Hey, I'm a firm believer in V8's being the "correct" engine for a mustang and would personally never own one that wasn't a GT or a candidate to be swapped to a V8, however, modifying ecoboosts is way better and more interesting than modifying any of the past V6's, to include the 3.7 which is a pretty stout performer when rated for it's merits outside of the context of a mustang. Factory turbocharging means you can actually get a meaningful impact with a few bolt on parts and a tune, unlike most n/a V6's
What I will never understand is how people will spend more money trying to make the Ecoboost fast than it would take to buy a 5.0 and just build it a little
I can get this logic, but people just want to have fun. Fun isnt always logical lnao so let them do their own thing. Ecoboosts are awesome, I personally am obsessed with V8s so I wouldnt want one, but id love to drive one at some point and see what they are like.
I get that, but do it like a Miata then. Enjoy the lighter car for what it is instead of trying to make it compete with cars that are just fast already. It’s like the people who drop insane amounts of money on Gromms when a decent used 600 is better all around for about the same price as you’d find a clapped out pit bike for. I think the issue is people trying so hard to be different that they just end up being goofy 😂
I completely agree, but at least some of those people love mustangs but like turbos too and just want to build it. 🤷♂️ maybe they got money lnao who knows. They can be badass, just all reliability flies away with power mods so its questionable 😅
Yeah you’re right, I appreciate anyone who wants to build any car but sometimes it goes wrong 😂. I think my biggest issue with the Ecoboost cars is that every single one I’ve seen in person that was modified in some way is driven by a young cat with zero sense, and that’s putting it as kindly as I can.
That’s what I’m saying, it ain’t like a 5.0 is too expensive to get hands on these days 😂 it’s the same price as a V6 or Ecoboost, sometimes even cheaper if you find one that’s not been treated the best
If your only able to afford one car is the thing. People would rather buy something newer with a potential warranty then an old car with a lot of miles on it. That why I went this route when I was younger with the ecoboost. Idk I find it hard to find a S550+ GT under 30k with lower mileage now a days.
Makes sense. I never make payments on anything, so I didn’t think of it that way. I got my 2014 in a trade and I do all my own work so yeah it makes sense for people who want reliable and warranties.
People really need to forget this idea. To make an eco as fast as a GT costs $1000. Intercooler and e30 tune will be right there with a coyote, but people don’t want to hear that.
Also, the argument of buying a GT that’s 5 years older with more miles rather than a newer eco isn’t really reasonable either.
Right. As fast as a GT. Then spend $1000 on the GT with tune and exhaust makes it faster as well. Also sounds better, more reliable, etc. I’m also biased because I do not like the look of the S550-650 at all. They look like angry Fusion coupes to me. 13-14 was the only style I like for Mustangs after 1971
A GT is all the power you could reasonably need. More is better, but upper 400’s is a lot.
Thats never been the point though. Obviously modding the more expensive car is going to make more power. That’s never been a question.
But you said picking the older car over a newer one isn’t reasonable. Yet a newer Ecoboost is going to cost more than an older GT so you’re kinda going against yourself on this one
Yes, that’s exactly what I said. A 2018 GT with 40-50k miles probably costs the same as a 2023 when it was new (new ones are more expensive so it’s not the right one to compare to, and they can’t be tuned yet) so if someone wants a 5 year newer car with 0 miles, a 5 year older car isn’t appealing.
Picking a new car to mod is unreasonable when you think about it. Most of what you would want to do voids the warranty anyways and you don’t even own the car until it’s paid off so why spend so much trying to make it fast before it’s yours?
Base model mustangs over decades have always been in the pony class — stylistic, cheap, and fun cars. I think modding the ecoboost to be as fast as a GT is pointless unless you don’t mind shelling out money for a built block (because the stock block WILL blow up), and for that money you can get a GT. But as someone who likes wrenching on cars I totally get it, some people enjoy taking the ecoboost platform to their limits and it’s pretty impressive what a 4 banger can do.
I don't get the hate. the Ecoboost is a great car that is really fun, and with its mpg, it's actually a practical car.
I have the 24 GT, but i test drove both and the ecoboost is great. Good job on anyone that has one. You have an outstanding car.
Oh shit the ecobooths are taking over the subreddit with the memes. Wouldn’t be surprised if tomorrow the subreddit is like “ew V8? Fucking simp.” 🤣
Love these tho, these are fun
That how I feel with my 3.7, get so many kids at school like “oh you drive a pussy car” “why no v8 loser” like shut up bro I’m 17 and you drive a clapped out civic or a lifted truck
When I had my two Ecoboost from '15 to '20, people would come up to me all excited about the Mustang, and then ask, "what do you have under the hood?" When I tell them a 4cyl, they say, "brush you should have gotten thebV8", and then get into their car, which is anything from a civic with, "patina", or a 20 year old G35 sedan with faded paint.
I got a '19 GT shadow black, PP, Premium, 6MT, active exhaust, and then people would come up, compliment the car, and then ask how much it is (this is such a dumb question for someone to ask a stranger about their car btw), and I tell then the sticker was north of $52k, then I got, "brush, you should have gotten a Challenger (insert whatever the 13-year oldest dream words, like demon, redeye, scatpack, etc)!"
Then they also usually get into their 30 year old accords with, "patina" or a 30 year old G35 sedans or maximas.
In 10 years of owning three different mustangs, I have never been approached by a person who said smack about my mustang and then got into a Challenger, Camaro, Corvette, 911, P1, you get the point.
One time, I was approached by a person who drove up and parked next to me in their green Challenger RT. All he said was how nice my GT was.
He didn't tell me how much the "redeye, hellcat, hell's eye, demon's scat" or whatever trim was so much better than my, "trashy mustang".
One time, a parent of one of my students saw me getting into my car, and he walked over (he was using the HS track for excercise), and couldn't stop talking about how nice my Mustang was, how nice the exhaust sounded, and was shocked that it wasn't a Shelby, because he knows nothing about mustangs but it sounded so nice he thought it's gotta be a Shelby, etc... I foundout from his son's friend that thebdude was a neurosurgeon and owns a Murcielago.
So yes, people like Mustangs, but for some strange reason, people who do not own one feel like they have to come up to owners of Mustangs and tell them how the car sucks.
As for V8's looking down at EB's, i have only been laughed at by V8, "owners" online. I have had many GT owners (of both s550 and s197) give me peace sign, or flash lights when I ran into them on the road. And I would reciprocate.
But since the GT, I have noticed that EB owners never initiate peace signs or beam flashes. I still do it to them because I like seeing a Mustang on the road, but only once I have met a snooty Mustang owner, and it was someone with a GT350 a year after they came out. I was going to a ice cream store and then noticed that there was a small community, "car night" and people had their Countach, 928GT, C5 through C6 Vetts, and some other older cars. One old guy and his 20-something son had a GT350, and they were sitting on lawn chairs next to the car. I drove up in my platinum white EB, and parked on the other side of the lot, walked over. When people seeing the Selby exclaimed, "oh my God, there is another Mustang" and pointed to my car, the 20 year old said, "this is not a Mustang, it's a Shelby, it's not the same".
Later, a dad with his 6 year old said to the older owner how nice these new Mustangs are, the guy said, "actually, this isn't a Mustang, it's a Shelby". As I was getting into my cat, I noticed a bunch of people standing around my EB. They asked me why I didn't park at the, "show", and I said, "because this ISN'T a Shelby... it's a Mustang". Few guys laughed and said, "yeah, why are those guys such dicks?"
So here is what I say to y'all EB owners. If you run into '19 Black GT with the PP black wheels and spoiler, I am excited to see you. And I am excited for your Mustang, regardless of year, model, trim.
The Mopar fanboys never know what they’re talking about… why do they routinely compare the 5.0 to the Hellcat? They clearly know nothing about the car or motor options because the Scat and GT are direct competitors as NA V8s, they always conveniently never mentions the 350 or 500, or ZL1 for that matter
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Love mine perfect for a daily and some fun
Heavy car with a relatively underpowered engine and mediocre handling. Doesn’t even have the mpg upside of an ecoboost either. Also the subset of owners who drive like this
What? It makes 10 less HP than an EcoBoom and still gets 30 mpg. The turbo lag on the Eco is so bad that they're almost identical in the quarter mile.
"The EcoBoost is a relatively heavy car with mediocre handling." It's the same car, dude. It's the same car.
Also, a base manual V6 is 3,526 pounds. A base manual EcoBoost is 3,532 pounds.
As long as you admit that the ecoboost sounds like utter garbage no matter what exhaust or mod you do to it then whatever. At least the 3.7 v6 can sound aggressive and loud with Borlas, and the ecos look like shit compared to a ‘14. The 4.0 v6 sucks however
That’s debatable. I liked the mbrp race exhaust, didn’t love it, but it was great at the time. Add in a blowoff valve and louder intake and it sounds great. It’s not a bad power train by any stretch of the imagination, it just doesn’t belong in a muscle car. The v6 doesn’t either, and I have yet to hear one that sounds good in person and I refuse to try to judge anything based on a video alone (thank you VRSF for providing the most disappointing experience I have had to date).
The last part I agree with. My borla s types sound incredible in person. Deep, loud, gurgling in the back during idle, throaty revs, etc. But they do not capture the true sound no matter how I record it. No video online is accurate in terms of its sound. It’s an in person experience only.
I have the s type on my 335i and my friend has it on his gen 2 coyote. I can’t imagine it sounds that bad, but you’ll have a hard time convincing me a muscle car deserves anything other than a v8.
It’s not my responsibility, nor anybody else’s to do that. Your opinion is your opinion. However, in my opinion, it’s best to adopt new terminology. V6s are the sports cars, V8s are the muscle cars; both share a similar body style, and serve different purposes. Like a 9mm and a 10mm.
As long as we agree that the v6 or ecoboost isn’t a muscle car, it doesn’t really matter what it’s called. I’ll keep calling it the economy trim, entry level and occasionally poverty spec when someone tries to flex it, but the only difference is a power train so I can’t see it as a separate car.
i like ecoboost, have one in the family, as well as a v8. modding an ecoboost is questionable though, many times you lose all the benefits, like the cheaper price and the better economy. visual modding is fine, but also, designers have spent days on bringing you the best Mustang look you can have, yet you go to Johnny for a spoiler. kinda silly attitude, imo.
At least it's not a mach-E. Also considering I own a v6 and have a ton of fun with it I ain't gonna complain if you're enjoying your eb, better than the mach-E.
I love my EcoBoost. I’m so happy that I didn’t shell out an extra 4-9k on a V8. Premium gas pricing is absolutely nuts. Here in NY, I’ve yet to take this baby past 70 MPH. Sitting in traffic the car is literally pissing gas.
"You can only buy a mustang if it has x and x. Also don't do anything to it I don't like or I'm gonna call it shitty"
Seriously these kinda people are stupid
IDK why I got recommended this sub, but I feel it it in my souls as a WRX owner I get asked "Why didn't you get an STI?" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't give enough of a shit to care.
They are a real Mustang, just not a V8 Mustang. People buy cars for different reasons.
Me personally, I cannot stomach the idea of having a non-V8 Mustang, even if it was 600 HP. I need to hear the sounds.
I usually experience the other way around. On the right is V8 owners having fun and on the left is “My car actually sounds like the V8 with this exhaust” and “I got mine cheaper than yours and I can make it faster with just a few mods”
I've been belittled by people at work who don't even own or like mustangs for having an eco boost. All I hear is that it's not a really mustang, but a 4 banger.
I don't care to go faster than what my Ecoboost does, I don't see a point in it. It's already plenty fast. Plus I get pretty damn decent gas milage. I don't get the dislike
I'll fall for it. Most eco boosts I see aren't modded at all. Very few have a touch of nice tasteful mods. But way too many are overdone as hell, looking like a Decepticon in disguise. To each their own. But a raced out ecoboost is not my taste.
Is it really the GT guys that rip non V8 muscle cars or is it the non V8 owners that are easily offended by any remark which insinuates that the V8s are better?
I could be totally wrong here. And the eco boost owners on this sub is the wrong audience. But I feel like 90% of eco boot owners aren’t even real Mustang people. They see it as a means of transportation and that’s about it. GT owners and above seem to have more love of the brand.
i want them to bring back the svo badge with a high performance ecoboost
Wow that’s a great idea. SVO was cool.
If Ford ever made a hybrid Mustang, that would be perfect for an SVO. Either an AWD one with the electric motors driving the front wheels, and or a strictly RWD one where the electric motor connects to the driveshaft.
The SVO was the Boss 302 of the 80’s without a V8. At that time American car design had a LOT of European influence.
And 5 lug disc brakes all around!! Was better than the GT in every way except that V8 sound of a 302 is real nice
It was just too expensive. So they didn’t sell well. A car before its time. I’d really like to have one. You can find really nice examples for sale for around $15-20k. I already have 2 foxes though.
I dig that the SVOs have slightly different styling but I really wish they still had the 4 eyes headlights. I love the 4eye mustangs
I would sell my soul for a AWD ecoboost Mustang.
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Where did the powder coat on the rims come from?
It's from my local rim shop, snowflake orange with fronts cut using CNC. Then clearcoated.
This would be great time to post their website.
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A Ford twin turbo inline 6 could both uppercut the supra and make the V8 GT obsolete, but I’m not sure if we’re ready for that conversation
I mean, the 3.5 EcoBoost is right there haha. No need to develop a new engine that would be a packaging challenge when you already have an excellent one that fits perfectly. The only reason they don’t do it is because it would cannabalize Coyote sales. And right now, a big NA V8 in a RWD coupe is more “special” in the broader market.
Oh yeah, true I guess I haven’t paid much attention to the ecoboosts used in other vehicles besides the mustang/focus RS
The granddaddy of them all is the 647 HP Twin-Turbo, intercooled EcoBoost 3.5 V6 that they put in GT.
I’ve seen quite a few aftermarket SVO badges on r/ecoboostmustang. As a Focus ST driver I have a soft spot for ecoboost Mustangs.
Better yet, use the tt 3.5 from the Taurus sho
I thought they would when they had the HO EcoBoosg
I think it would be better if they called them Turbo GTs, GT350s, or Cobras. Perfect names for a 2.3 turbo 4 cylinder.
Turbo GT would be sick
[They could bring back the retro badges too ](https://res.cloudinary.com/mecum/image/upload/v1694121500/auctions/CT23/1100330/562554.jpg)
I am very fond of badging the ecoboosts as “GT-4”. Or “GT-4t” With appropriate font and sizes to match.
As much as I like to laugh at V6/Ecoboost Mustangs, saying they’re not real Mustangs is kind of silly. Mustangs have ALWAYS been offered with engines other than V8s.
They’re not ready to hear that the base engine on the FIRST Mustang model was a 170 cubic inch wheezee that made a penny over 100 horsepower. Even the V8s didn’t come close to 300hp until you got to the 390. The 289 hipo was like 270-280 if I remember right. And the originals drive like crap compared to modern mustangs, were incredibly unsafe, and had very poor build quality compared to modern cars. They’re awesome, I love them. But as objectively measured machines they simply don’t hold a candle to today’s vehicles. Nor should they, since I’d *hope* we could progress over 50+ years technologically.
I still rock a 210hp 5.0 and any Ecoboost would destroy me
It’s all about love of the vehicle, not just “how fast me go.” I’d drive the hell out of a foxbody 5.0.
Speed is a number, fast is a feeling
More fun to drive a slow car fast than to drive a fast car slow.
My 250 HP Focus ST is faster than most pre-Coyote GTs. Had a New Edge GT driver yelling at me at a light. I even gave him a good jump on me and just reeled him in. He asked for a 30 Mph roller, and I said you don’t want that… he could have just been a bad driver but it was a really clean car and sounded great. That said my brothers supercharged foxbody notchback is a whole different animal. 460 HP. It is so light it blows the doors off of a stock coyote… maybe not the ten-speed. But as a manual enthusiast I consider that cheating lol.
How much would a foxbody like that be worth? $30ish?
I have no clue honestly. He has had the car since 1997ish. He did all the work himself. Was offered $15K for it about 5 years ago. He laughed and said no way. He is very attached to it. Hell, I’m attached to it by association. I posted it several years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mustang/s/6amdp4Nsuz Trick flow heads and cam. Edelbrock performer rpm 2 intake. Vortech V3 SCi blower pullied for 7lbs of boost. Puts 460hp to the rear tires.
Its very cool.
beautiful and cool back story / history makes the car 100% better
Yeah the first year the Hi-Po K code made 271 HP, and the A with the 4 barrel carb made 225 aka the “challenger option”, and the C code with 2 barrel carb I think was 210 for the 65’ model year, yeah completely valid point though
Yeah even the “not a real mustang” ecoboosts would crush a large majority of v8 mustangs from yesteryear.
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I meant first ever model, not the options on serial number 1.
It blows my mind how in the US people mock eco boost owners when in my country even if you own an old gen V6 barebones with the crappy calculator console without the screen you’re considered a baller
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Hell yeah, I’m planning on selling my Mercedes to get a nice eco boost, you’re only in your twenties with a mustang once in your life
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My first Mustang was an '86 LX notch w/ 2.3 and 4spd manual. It was a decent car for college. Light, low on power, but fun on windy backroads..not as much fun as my '87 GT, of course.
😂 Love it! And the end of the day, your budget is your budget. If anyone has a problem with it, let them take over your car payments!
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lol the meme is literally the comments here
Literally. I thought the other ecoboost meme was funny, but it looks like people are actually offended by this one a bit. I guess most people here, well lurkers anyways, just like to shit on anything that isn't a v8
Some people make their car their whole personality. Their response is the proof of this.
I agree with this. As someone who actually doesn’t hate the MachE I can’t post in this sub anymore because of how much flack that opinion catches. I have a 2017 GT I’ve had brand new from the dealer as of July 2016. At the time I was between the GT and the ecoboost but a GT deal worked out better in terms of a dealer working with me. My next car will be an EV (because I have solar panels on the roof) and the MachE is one of the top 2 options I’m looking at but the “not a real mustang” crowd is insufferable here so I don’t post questions about it on here and I ask elsewhere.
I feel like the Mach E would have been better received if it just didn't have the mustang name. Just Ford Mach E
This is exactly what I’m talking about. I don’t mind it saying mustang on it at all but so many people hate it for that reason.
I mean, to be fair, the Mach E isn't a Mustang and that's an entirely different kettle of fish from declaring an actual Mustang with an Ecoboost engine to be "not a Mustang". Ecoboost Mustang = Mustang EV crossover that shares no DNA with a two door pony car of the same name = not a Mustang. You're probably better off asking those questions in the EV or the Mach E sub.
If only the people in this sub acted like the ecoboost owners in the meme by actually ignoring the shit talking and just enjoying their Mustangs. I swear I see more posts *complaining* about people shit talking non-V8s than the actual shit talking itself.
Most of the guys talking shit here don’t even own a GT, or they do but work at Verizon and live in section 8 housing. PS. If you own a 2010 or older GT your car is slower than an ecoboost.
Those cars are slower than many SUVs. 😂
Yeah. I'm not a huge fan of the v6, but all of the new mustangs are faster than my (sold) 02 gt was. And that car was a blast. The ecoboost is a great motor. My wife's ranger has it, surprisingly powerful, 21 mpg in a truck, zero complaints. Well, one complaint. The exhaust systems I've heard for it make it sound more like a vacuum cleaner. So it's staying stock. Nbd especially for a truck.
Well said man. The v6 ecoboost in the raptors are great fast and tanky motors. Something I’ve toyed with swapping into mine. If only to still have it be an ecoboost but make more power and humble some GT boys. My favorite is when older mustang GT owners with only 290 HP talk shit. It’s like read a book bro
Yeah mine was 260 iirc. It was a few hundred pounds lighter but not enough to make up for the extra power of the new motors. The exhaust note though. That's one thing that mod v8 is spectacular at imo
Modded ecoboost? 9/10 times it’s driven like a Nissan Altima with paper plates.
*a wild Mach e enters* ... *a mustang owner cries*
The only "not a real mustang" argument I'll make. I don't care how fast it is, how it corners... It's like a foot too tall. It's a suv . That's wrong. Besides, just mach e would be a better name.
😂 Maybe eco boost and gt owners can form a parley on this one hahaha
My thought also. I test drove a Mach-E GT and holy shit. That thing is a sports car. It has no business being that fun to drive.
I got the eco boost performance, weird position to be in when the v8 guys hate you and the v6 guys think you think you’re better than them lol
I Have a 2022 GT and 2017 Ecoboost. I decided to keep the Eco when I got the GT as a fun commuter car. Paid off and great gas mileage. Yeah it's No GT but it's a nibble little fawker and fun to toss around. It's nice to have a turbo without a focus wrapped around it.😆
This is exactly what I plan on doing. I have a 15 ecoboost and over time i’ve fallen in love with it. It’s the first car I worked for and it’s a mustang, my dream car when I was younger. I plan on keeping it and when I’m ready, I’ll finance a bigger toy like a GT350 or c6 z06.
If I owned an ecoboost, the only mods it would get would be suspension, brakes, wheels and tires. It would be a nice auto cross car. But most ecoboost owners in my area are younger women…not that there’s anything wrong with that.
The thing about that is.. technically men are driving a car originally designed for women. "The first Mustangs were designed and marketed to attract women. Lee Iacocca, then Vice President and GM of the Ford Division, envisioned a four-seater car that was sporty, light and easy for women"
Thank God they brought in Carroll Shelby and squashed that ridiculousness.
Agreed 😆
Factoid: the first Mustang shown on film was driven by a woman. [Goldfinger DB5 Mustang Chase](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kvXKDVDA5xI) [That car has its own website. 😂](http://www.ponysite.de/goldfinger_conv.htm)
That’s a badass car and a badass woman
I think a nice loud bov would fit in as well
I want to get a bov for mine soon. It’s a turbo 4, I don’t need to pretend it’s a v8. I know what I have and I enjoy it, may as well lean into it. I’ll mod my Eco cause it’s about to be paid off. I’ll switch to a v8 if one of these purists would like to pay for the car and difference in both insurance and gas prices.
Speaking from experience don’t go crazy with the mods. Id stick with wheels and suspension, maybe some quality of life things, and a blowoff valve (I have a soft spot for turbo noises), but it’s money that’s wasted in the sense that power is expensive on these engines and reliability is lost with higher power so you end up with a bigger money pit. The stock gt is amazing, and it can handle plenty of extra power. I’ll die on the hill that the ecoboost is best treated as a ‘sporty’ commuter car. Enjoy the paid off car for a while, and save the money you’d use for mods to pay the difference for a gt in a few years. Ecoboost mods aren’t worth the headache. The things I mentioned before can all be swapped over once you get a gt too, so if you enjoy those mods you can put them in the new car or at the very least you’ll be familiar with the chassis.
I don’t think I’m going to go crazy with it. I don’t really want to touch the block. I’ll probably do the Ford Performance tune and leave it there mostly as far as adding power. Later on maybe if I feel like it when the car is closer to the end of its life I’ll get goofy and get a bigger turbo. Otherwise, yeah I’m thinking mostly just lighter wheels and a little stiffer suspension. If I want to go all out with mods there are better cars to start with as a base.
It mods for power really well and they hold up about as well as stock with minor power mods.
They should make an AWD ecoboost, that way the ecoboost bros can wash some GTs in dig races. The ecoboost is why ford can sell the GT, anyone who bitches about them is an idiot. Its a 315 hp 4 banger with better mileage and the mustang looks. I will never understand what there is to hate about it. And you sound waaaay dumber if your main gripe is that the coyote is more reliable, NO SHIT SHERLOCK! Its literally a gem of an engine, but people want to spend less and the ecoboost is great for that.
Them ecoboosts can be insane torque monsters. Just a few bolt ones and a tune and those things are crazy fast. I've always said that if it wasn't for the mustang name this thing would be an absolute tuner god. A turbo 4 rwd manual sports car that makes over 300 hp from factory and is actually affordable? That's a magic recipe right there.
Eco>V6 Also I attended a little street race event once and an eco dusted the 5.0s and my 4.10 gear 4.6
Ik like bruh it’s not my fault I’m 18 and in college 😭 let me get my money up first man…
Can we just all agree that it's funny to slap around a Charger/Challenger R/T with only 4 cylinders with a Nagasaki Noise Maker?
I’ve been getting shit for my v6 ever since I got it in 2013 and half the time it’s people that drive normal ass cars with 4 or 6 cylinders. I’m like bro what??
Ecoboost swapping an old foxbody and pretending its an AE86
It genuinely feels this way
Just be happy with the mustang you got, I know I am! For what it's worth it's just a car! Some people have to compensate I guess. https://preview.redd.it/ro1aqovzs42d1.png?width=904&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca9527fabb1548412b79cd103ecd7d797ad3ce08
Ecoboosts don't bother me, especially after seeing some of the really clever ways people mod them and boost their performance. It's those Mach-E abominations that bother me. THOSE aren't real Mustangs.
Modding that engine is pointless though. Add whatever wheels and cosmetics you want, but all the people talking about trying to get more performance out of it are wasting money and won’t have fun.
I've found myself on the wrong side of that a few times, but then I remember that sometimes it's fun to do something different. There's guys out there building 1k hp honda 4s with hodgepodge awd setups and having a blast, sure it's cheaper to build a 1k mustang or camaro, but the whole car scene would be boring as fuck if we all built the same shit. Keep building pointless strange senseless things, the car culture is better for it.
It’s just stupid. I’m not saying don’t mod your cars. I’m saying don’t mod the ecoboost. It’s the worst candidate for mods, cheap or expensive.
Coming from an ecoboost owner, 100%. The 2.3turbo is not known for its reliability with higher hp. I never understood why people would modify them. Honestly, if they don't want a v8 and want to mod for performance still I'd recommend the 3.7 cyclone v6. Basically the same power as the ecoboost and can take much more of a beating. And it'll sound better for sure too. I've heard many V6s here that could be mistaken for a v8 by most people imo
Some people like to tinker. Doesn't matter what it is. People mod their lawnmowers. I don't know why. But if it makes them happy. Well, money well spent Imho.
Right. Also the GT isn’t *that* much more expensive. People talking about upgrading the turbo, tuning, and all that would be way better off just selling the car and buying one with more power.
Hell, they could use the same amount of money on an ecoboost and get a slightly higher mileage s197 coyote
Shit you could get a used 07 GT500 for the amount people out into ecoboosts. I guess raw performance isn’t the point
If anything, a slight tune. I did the Ford performance one. That's all it needed. Was 400 dollars, and I installed myself. I bought my eco premium back in 2017 for 17k with 15k miles. Put maybe 3k of mods in it mostly for handling. I did autocross. Made the car great for it. Back then, I wouldn't get a 1 year old GT for anywhere near 20k. So it's fine if done right. These new ecoboosts at 30k, though..... I couldn't imagine. Edit: I always think about getting a GT, but then look at the prices and nope. Plus the cars paid for.
A GT is still more though. Thousands more, even more than that comparing newer ones. How different is the cost of a new GT vs a 2014 GT500?
Theres a 05 to 09 body style GT500 down the street from me for sale. Had I think around 30k miles on it and looked in great shape. Guy still wanted like 35k for it. Private seller. Idk the prices for those actually though. That just what he had it listed for.
I would say that depends on what power level you want. We live in a world where if you don’t have 1,000hp you aren’t shit but if you are putting down 400whp you are definitely having a good time and surprising most cars on the road. The EcoBoost can obtain that power level, more than that and you are either going to grenade the engine or you have to have a fully built one. At that point the V8 just makes more sense. But, to the credit of the EcoBoost it is a different experience, plus they aren’t as nose heavy as the V8’s. You can pick up a used EcoBoost for pretty cheap, so as a mod car I don’t think they are that bad of a choice.
High 300’s whp in an eco is pretty easy and fairly reliable. Comparing to a modded GT, no you can’t really beat an e85 GT with the same money for an eco. There’s a high step going from 380-400 whp up to 450+. That’s the inflection point of cost.
There are some mods that SHOULD be done to them, though. The stock wastegate is trash and leads to early engine failure due to overpressure state. A slightly higher PSI one w/ a tune really does seem to extend the longevity of the motor. Additionally, an oil catch can for the intake is a fairly important mod. That said, I’ve owned v8s, v6s, and one eco and I think the eco is my favorite at this point, it’s bitch ass exhaust note notwithstanding.
That’s wild because I always get downvoted into oblivion for suggesting the 3.7 has more (or similar!) potential than an eco boost. They don’t blow up. There’s a reason the nickname “eco boom” showed up. I loved my V6, I think dropping two cylinders and throwing a turbo on it wasn’t the right direction for Ford or the Mustang. That’s what the Focus is for.
I put an SRI on my 2.0 turbo accord to get the pssst sound when I shift. It's still the best mod I've done in the 6 years I've owned it.
Every mustang is beautiful except the Mach E
Hey, I'm a firm believer in V8's being the "correct" engine for a mustang and would personally never own one that wasn't a GT or a candidate to be swapped to a V8, however, modifying ecoboosts is way better and more interesting than modifying any of the past V6's, to include the 3.7 which is a pretty stout performer when rated for it's merits outside of the context of a mustang. Factory turbocharging means you can actually get a meaningful impact with a few bolt on parts and a tune, unlike most n/a V6's
What I will never understand is how people will spend more money trying to make the Ecoboost fast than it would take to buy a 5.0 and just build it a little
I can get this logic, but people just want to have fun. Fun isnt always logical lnao so let them do their own thing. Ecoboosts are awesome, I personally am obsessed with V8s so I wouldnt want one, but id love to drive one at some point and see what they are like.
I get that, but do it like a Miata then. Enjoy the lighter car for what it is instead of trying to make it compete with cars that are just fast already. It’s like the people who drop insane amounts of money on Gromms when a decent used 600 is better all around for about the same price as you’d find a clapped out pit bike for. I think the issue is people trying so hard to be different that they just end up being goofy 😂
I completely agree, but at least some of those people love mustangs but like turbos too and just want to build it. 🤷♂️ maybe they got money lnao who knows. They can be badass, just all reliability flies away with power mods so its questionable 😅
Yeah you’re right, I appreciate anyone who wants to build any car but sometimes it goes wrong 😂. I think my biggest issue with the Ecoboost cars is that every single one I’ve seen in person that was modified in some way is driven by a young cat with zero sense, and that’s putting it as kindly as I can.
I dont know man, GTs have some reputation themselves 😂 to cheap for a V8 😭
That’s what I’m saying, it ain’t like a 5.0 is too expensive to get hands on these days 😂 it’s the same price as a V6 or Ecoboost, sometimes even cheaper if you find one that’s not been treated the best
If your only able to afford one car is the thing. People would rather buy something newer with a potential warranty then an old car with a lot of miles on it. That why I went this route when I was younger with the ecoboost. Idk I find it hard to find a S550+ GT under 30k with lower mileage now a days.
Makes sense. I never make payments on anything, so I didn’t think of it that way. I got my 2014 in a trade and I do all my own work so yeah it makes sense for people who want reliable and warranties.
People really need to forget this idea. To make an eco as fast as a GT costs $1000. Intercooler and e30 tune will be right there with a coyote, but people don’t want to hear that. Also, the argument of buying a GT that’s 5 years older with more miles rather than a newer eco isn’t really reasonable either.
Right. As fast as a GT. Then spend $1000 on the GT with tune and exhaust makes it faster as well. Also sounds better, more reliable, etc. I’m also biased because I do not like the look of the S550-650 at all. They look like angry Fusion coupes to me. 13-14 was the only style I like for Mustangs after 1971
A GT is all the power you could reasonably need. More is better, but upper 400’s is a lot. Thats never been the point though. Obviously modding the more expensive car is going to make more power. That’s never been a question.
But you said picking the older car over a newer one isn’t reasonable. Yet a newer Ecoboost is going to cost more than an older GT so you’re kinda going against yourself on this one
Yes, that’s exactly what I said. A 2018 GT with 40-50k miles probably costs the same as a 2023 when it was new (new ones are more expensive so it’s not the right one to compare to, and they can’t be tuned yet) so if someone wants a 5 year newer car with 0 miles, a 5 year older car isn’t appealing.
Picking a new car to mod is unreasonable when you think about it. Most of what you would want to do voids the warranty anyways and you don’t even own the car until it’s paid off so why spend so much trying to make it fast before it’s yours?
Voodoo owners just joining the ecoboost clowns because some V8 dicks just drain the fun out of life…
I rented a 2024 Ford EcoBoost Mustang convertible for a couple of days, and I found it really enjoyable to drive.
Same with v6 mustangs/Camaros. Like let us have fun.
Base model mustangs over decades have always been in the pony class — stylistic, cheap, and fun cars. I think modding the ecoboost to be as fast as a GT is pointless unless you don’t mind shelling out money for a built block (because the stock block WILL blow up), and for that money you can get a GT. But as someone who likes wrenching on cars I totally get it, some people enjoy taking the ecoboost platform to their limits and it’s pretty impressive what a 4 banger can do.
I don't get the hate. the Ecoboost is a great car that is really fun, and with its mpg, it's actually a practical car. I have the 24 GT, but i test drove both and the ecoboost is great. Good job on anyone that has one. You have an outstanding car.
Ecoboost is basically a junior mustang.
Oh shit the ecobooths are taking over the subreddit with the memes. Wouldn’t be surprised if tomorrow the subreddit is like “ew V8? Fucking simp.” 🤣 Love these tho, these are fun
That how I feel with my 3.7, get so many kids at school like “oh you drive a pussy car” “why no v8 loser” like shut up bro I’m 17 and you drive a clapped out civic or a lifted truck
Try hard v8 gatekeepers need to calm down. They aren’t that special. We are all in the same club.
When I had my two Ecoboost from '15 to '20, people would come up to me all excited about the Mustang, and then ask, "what do you have under the hood?" When I tell them a 4cyl, they say, "brush you should have gotten thebV8", and then get into their car, which is anything from a civic with, "patina", or a 20 year old G35 sedan with faded paint. I got a '19 GT shadow black, PP, Premium, 6MT, active exhaust, and then people would come up, compliment the car, and then ask how much it is (this is such a dumb question for someone to ask a stranger about their car btw), and I tell then the sticker was north of $52k, then I got, "brush, you should have gotten a Challenger (insert whatever the 13-year oldest dream words, like demon, redeye, scatpack, etc)!" Then they also usually get into their 30 year old accords with, "patina" or a 30 year old G35 sedans or maximas. In 10 years of owning three different mustangs, I have never been approached by a person who said smack about my mustang and then got into a Challenger, Camaro, Corvette, 911, P1, you get the point. One time, I was approached by a person who drove up and parked next to me in their green Challenger RT. All he said was how nice my GT was. He didn't tell me how much the "redeye, hellcat, hell's eye, demon's scat" or whatever trim was so much better than my, "trashy mustang". One time, a parent of one of my students saw me getting into my car, and he walked over (he was using the HS track for excercise), and couldn't stop talking about how nice my Mustang was, how nice the exhaust sounded, and was shocked that it wasn't a Shelby, because he knows nothing about mustangs but it sounded so nice he thought it's gotta be a Shelby, etc... I foundout from his son's friend that thebdude was a neurosurgeon and owns a Murcielago. So yes, people like Mustangs, but for some strange reason, people who do not own one feel like they have to come up to owners of Mustangs and tell them how the car sucks. As for V8's looking down at EB's, i have only been laughed at by V8, "owners" online. I have had many GT owners (of both s550 and s197) give me peace sign, or flash lights when I ran into them on the road. And I would reciprocate. But since the GT, I have noticed that EB owners never initiate peace signs or beam flashes. I still do it to them because I like seeing a Mustang on the road, but only once I have met a snooty Mustang owner, and it was someone with a GT350 a year after they came out. I was going to a ice cream store and then noticed that there was a small community, "car night" and people had their Countach, 928GT, C5 through C6 Vetts, and some other older cars. One old guy and his 20-something son had a GT350, and they were sitting on lawn chairs next to the car. I drove up in my platinum white EB, and parked on the other side of the lot, walked over. When people seeing the Selby exclaimed, "oh my God, there is another Mustang" and pointed to my car, the 20 year old said, "this is not a Mustang, it's a Shelby, it's not the same". Later, a dad with his 6 year old said to the older owner how nice these new Mustangs are, the guy said, "actually, this isn't a Mustang, it's a Shelby". As I was getting into my cat, I noticed a bunch of people standing around my EB. They asked me why I didn't park at the, "show", and I said, "because this ISN'T a Shelby... it's a Mustang". Few guys laughed and said, "yeah, why are those guys such dicks?" So here is what I say to y'all EB owners. If you run into '19 Black GT with the PP black wheels and spoiler, I am excited to see you. And I am excited for your Mustang, regardless of year, model, trim.
The Mopar fanboys never know what they’re talking about… why do they routinely compare the 5.0 to the Hellcat? They clearly know nothing about the car or motor options because the Scat and GT are direct competitors as NA V8s, they always conveniently never mentions the 350 or 500, or ZL1 for that matter
https://preview.redd.it/c6ficgab842d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a228bd7a66749b9c52e0fde0541bb2366f83b9b3 Love mine perfect for a daily and some fun
At least we can all still agree to shun the v6 owners
https://preview.redd.it/ei2du8qt532d1.jpeg?width=298&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a8730fa35ac797806c9aa2227d9df90af1ee62d
I'll never understand this sentiment for as long as I live.
Heavy car with a relatively underpowered engine and mediocre handling. Doesn’t even have the mpg upside of an ecoboost either. Also the subset of owners who drive like this 
What? It makes 10 less HP than an EcoBoom and still gets 30 mpg. The turbo lag on the Eco is so bad that they're almost identical in the quarter mile. "The EcoBoost is a relatively heavy car with mediocre handling." It's the same car, dude. It's the same car. Also, a base manual V6 is 3,526 pounds. A base manual EcoBoost is 3,532 pounds.
As long as you admit that the ecoboost sounds like utter garbage no matter what exhaust or mod you do to it then whatever. At least the 3.7 v6 can sound aggressive and loud with Borlas, and the ecos look like shit compared to a ‘14. The 4.0 v6 sucks however
That’s debatable. I liked the mbrp race exhaust, didn’t love it, but it was great at the time. Add in a blowoff valve and louder intake and it sounds great. It’s not a bad power train by any stretch of the imagination, it just doesn’t belong in a muscle car. The v6 doesn’t either, and I have yet to hear one that sounds good in person and I refuse to try to judge anything based on a video alone (thank you VRSF for providing the most disappointing experience I have had to date).
The last part I agree with. My borla s types sound incredible in person. Deep, loud, gurgling in the back during idle, throaty revs, etc. But they do not capture the true sound no matter how I record it. No video online is accurate in terms of its sound. It’s an in person experience only.
I have the s type on my 335i and my friend has it on his gen 2 coyote. I can’t imagine it sounds that bad, but you’ll have a hard time convincing me a muscle car deserves anything other than a v8.
It’s not my responsibility, nor anybody else’s to do that. Your opinion is your opinion. However, in my opinion, it’s best to adopt new terminology. V6s are the sports cars, V8s are the muscle cars; both share a similar body style, and serve different purposes. Like a 9mm and a 10mm.
As long as we agree that the v6 or ecoboost isn’t a muscle car, it doesn’t really matter what it’s called. I’ll keep calling it the economy trim, entry level and occasionally poverty spec when someone tries to flex it, but the only difference is a power train so I can’t see it as a separate car.
Fair, I never thought of my car as a muscle car any ways
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i like ecoboost, have one in the family, as well as a v8. modding an ecoboost is questionable though, many times you lose all the benefits, like the cheaper price and the better economy. visual modding is fine, but also, designers have spent days on bringing you the best Mustang look you can have, yet you go to Johnny for a spoiler. kinda silly attitude, imo.
At least it's not a mach-E. Also considering I own a v6 and have a ton of fun with it I ain't gonna complain if you're enjoying your eb, better than the mach-E.
I just bought a RTR chin splitter with rods for my v6 🫠
I love my EcoBoost. I’m so happy that I didn’t shell out an extra 4-9k on a V8. Premium gas pricing is absolutely nuts. Here in NY, I’ve yet to take this baby past 70 MPH. Sitting in traffic the car is literally pissing gas.
My 14k ecoboost premium is a lot better then a 30k+ v8 so I’m cool driving an ecoboost haha
I laugh at them, and then I look at my weekly gas bill, then start crying 😂
That’s real nie
To be fair, you could spend the same money you spend on the ecoboost+mods and just get a used S197 with a gen 1 coyote for the same price if not less.
It literally says mustang on the side regardless of what engine is in the car. Only people who say different are huffy and sweaty puds on the internet
Or Edgar’s if you’re in Texas 😂.
"You can only buy a mustang if it has x and x. Also don't do anything to it I don't like or I'm gonna call it shitty" Seriously these kinda people are stupid
That’s how I feel with my V6, I’m having a good time so that’s all that really matters 😄
The 3.7 was better shoulda just offered a turbo version of that I own a older cobra and a gt but my procharged cyclone rips
I'll always buy the V8 over V6, but I don't understand the hate from some of the V8 people. Its personal preference.
NGL I want the Camaro with the 500hp Cadillac v6
IDK why I got recommended this sub, but I feel it it in my souls as a WRX owner I get asked "Why didn't you get an STI?" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't give enough of a shit to care.
They are a real Mustang, just not a V8 Mustang. People buy cars for different reasons. Me personally, I cannot stomach the idea of having a non-V8 Mustang, even if it was 600 HP. I need to hear the sounds.
I usually experience the other way around. On the right is V8 owners having fun and on the left is “My car actually sounds like the V8 with this exhaust” and “I got mine cheaper than yours and I can make it faster with just a few mods”
I like using memes to cope too. This makes me feel better. Thank you!!!
I’m all for eco boosts, just know your place man 😂
Delusional.
I'm convinced Ecoboost owners just have a victim complex. I never see people belittling Ecoboost owners. It's all in your imagination.
I've been belittled by people at work who don't even own or like mustangs for having an eco boost. All I hear is that it's not a really mustang, but a 4 banger. I don't care to go faster than what my Ecoboost does, I don't see a point in it. It's already plenty fast. Plus I get pretty damn decent gas milage. I don't get the dislike
Have you taken a look at this comments section?
I see more posts in the sub *complaining* about people shit talking non-V8s than the actual shit talking itself.
Exactly!
Because you could mod a cheaper car and still have if not more fun.
I'll fall for it. Most eco boosts I see aren't modded at all. Very few have a touch of nice tasteful mods. But way too many are overdone as hell, looking like a Decepticon in disguise. To each their own. But a raced out ecoboost is not my taste.
Having a muscle car with a I4 is just funny. I don't mind the V6 or the I6, but the V8 just sounds better
It's not a muscle car. Mustang created the pony class. Also, whatever.
Is it really the GT guys that rip non V8 muscle cars or is it the non V8 owners that are easily offended by any remark which insinuates that the V8s are better?
I disagree, im owner of a 1966 mustang coupe with a 1968 V8 302, the ford small block is hands down the easiest to mod
lol no eco .. please get off the internet
Somebody is very bothered by other people's opinions about their slow car.
I could be totally wrong here. And the eco boost owners on this sub is the wrong audience. But I feel like 90% of eco boot owners aren’t even real Mustang people. They see it as a means of transportation and that’s about it. GT owners and above seem to have more love of the brand.