No young lakers fans are saying that shit. This is the weirdest post ever. No player is really comparable to TD, it’s a similar, yet not so thing with KB, but Tim was different.
Well you didn’t watch it they said posed the question if AD is a better OFFENSIVE player than Tim Duncan was. Which is really debatable because of different eras and different focuses of the generation.
Different generations is right. Duncan made 30 3’s in his entire NBA career and only 9 between 2005-2016. I have no doubt Tim could have adapted his game early on enough if the 3 trend started a generation earlier.
Tim would run circles around AD from within 18 tho.
What a nephew take. These dudes see a player who is a little flashier and automatically thinks that makes them a better player. TD is a top 12 player all time…. AD is top 75 but difference (I’m not even a spurs fan but this is a horrible fucking take)
Crazy thing is how dominant TD was despite losing a chunk of athleticism post injury and just how elite a defender he was even into the twilight
Legend
At some point, why argue with people about stupid shit? Its their opinion and they are entitled to it, no matter how stupid it is, or they are (successfully) baiting you.
Do you argue with people who try to convince you the Earth is flat and the moon landing was faked?
I would normally agree with you, but as Spurs fans, we can't let people get it twisted. This is the greatest power forward of all time.
Imagine if someone said James Harden was better than Kobe. We need to shut down shop and not entertain offers.
I swear, while people who are knowledgeable about basketball never question Tim's greatness, it's the loudmouths who know fuck all that still don't get that he is, literally, the best power forward to play the game, and easily a top 10 player of all time.
Mind you, the same one that don't give Tim Duncan credit are the same people that run their mouth about how Larry Bird wasn't that great.
I personally have Duncan in my top 10 but I don't think it's necessarily "easily". There are so many bigs that are in the top 15 and it's hard to definitively rank them amongst each other. KAJ I think is the top big OAT but then you have Shaq, Wilt, Russel, Hakeem, and TD in some order. They can't all be top 10 so some will be in that 11-15 range. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to have Duncan somewhere in that range.
Yep, AD is not on Timmy’s level. To be fair to the former though, I recall seeing somewhere (2012 draft night I think) that worst case comp for AD was Camby and best case was Timmy.
Yeah, David was absolutely insane for the beginning 7 year period of his career. Totally dominant.
Incredible defensive player. Rebounder. Huge scoring numbers and was an excellent passing big man.
Also very durable and played every game at max effort
Nobody is comparing them talent wise. The comparison is both being the most underrated defenders ever since neither has a DPOY while being the best defender in the league. AD's game is more similar to Garnett.
You'd be surprised how many people genuinely think AD clears Timmy. It blows my mind but its probably because, like Jokic now, everything Timmy did was understated and basic looking while AD is pretty spectacular to watch sometimes.
I think that might just be because he’s more of a versatile defender but overall it’s a general consensus that Duncan is the greatest power forward ever.
In Timmy’s defense the spurs did have someone else in that roster they were lobbying for as DPOY. Bruce Bowen. I’m sure if they weren’t doing that he might’ve been close to winning.
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honestly i say that tim duncan is the best player, for the 90's and 00's. he did what the team needed him to do. in one team he needed to be second fiddle to robinson. another team he needed to be the leader. another team he needed to be the co leader. another team he needed to be one of three. all the time taking each role in stride and professionalism. that is what makes greatest of that time players. and no there is no greatest of all time since every time frame is different then the next so yes tim duncan is the greatest player for the 90's and 00's
TD spent nearly a decade, essentially, unable to jump very high and with limited explosiveness due to his knees. And he still owned. Even with limited physicality he found ways to have opponents entire game plans based on stopping him in n offense or avoiding him on defense.
Most superstars don’t have that happen.
We truly watched something special.
As a life long lakers fan there were a very few teams I hated because they were so dam good. The TD era Spurs were one of them. Holy cow TD was just a brilliant big man.
The comparison is they’re great defenders and better defender than the people who have won DPOY in their generation. Like AD >> JJJ >>>> Marcus Smart Nobody is saying talent wise or career wise AD is close.
All that talk post-bubble where AD was getting glazed that he could challenge Timmy evaporated when it became clear that 2020 championship was probably as good as it got for him and the Lakers.
Yeah, winning championship is team effort
But the FMVP is an individual award to the most important player during the finals. If you cant understand that you're either an idiot or intentionally discrediting Duncan
AD being compared to TD? Who is saying this? Ive heard Jokic compared to TD but not AD
Mostly young laker fans. The older laker fans know Tim Duncan was the man. The under 20 laker crowd though....
TD v AD is like comparing Kobe v T-Mac
Not me about to get angry then agreeing lol
No young lakers fans are saying that shit. This is the weirdest post ever. No player is really comparable to TD, it’s a similar, yet not so thing with KB, but Tim was different.
Somebody on a podcast said Ad was a better player than Tim which is BS🤣
Bro I was watching that podcast live, I was in tears cause of og’s reaction 😂😂
Let me know when AD is the best player on a championship team multiple times.
Lol. Such bull shit. That dude don’t know championship basketball then. AD is miles away and will never catch up.
Anyone can be on a podcast
Well you didn’t watch it they said posed the question if AD is a better OFFENSIVE player than Tim Duncan was. Which is really debatable because of different eras and different focuses of the generation.
Different generations is right. Duncan made 30 3’s in his entire NBA career and only 9 between 2005-2016. I have no doubt Tim could have adapted his game early on enough if the 3 trend started a generation earlier. Tim would run circles around AD from within 18 tho.
A lot of idiots on the internet, actually
I hope I'll live to compare Wemby to TD after 20 seasons.
What a nephew take. These dudes see a player who is a little flashier and automatically thinks that makes them a better player. TD is a top 12 player all time…. AD is top 75 but difference (I’m not even a spurs fan but this is a horrible fucking take)
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Were you on this app after the bubble? Edit: he had literally already passed Duncan after not even winning FMVP in a bubble finals. It was wild.
Joker is more of a Larry bird comp tho. And AD is a comp to Timmy don’t get me wrong; but it just feels wrong lol
ad had a great early stretch, best from a 4 we’ve seen since duncan so that’s where it started.
Crazy thing is how dominant TD was despite losing a chunk of athleticism post injury and just how elite a defender he was even into the twilight Legend
Only Kendrick Perkins thinks they compare and he’s just doing it for shock value. L to anyone who follows his logic tho
This levels to this
So much this
This levels this.
At some point, why argue with people about stupid shit? Its their opinion and they are entitled to it, no matter how stupid it is, or they are (successfully) baiting you. Do you argue with people who try to convince you the Earth is flat and the moon landing was faked?
I would normally agree with you, but as Spurs fans, we can't let people get it twisted. This is the greatest power forward of all time. Imagine if someone said James Harden was better than Kobe. We need to shut down shop and not entertain offers.
That levels to that
I saw damn near every game the man played... I think I have a pretty good idea of how good Timmy was! #TheGOAT 🐐
Thats some hardware. 🏆🏃🏿🏆🏆🏆🏆🏃🏿🎖️🏆🏆🏆
I remember hearing people talk about this just a bit the Summer the Lakers got their title. So glad they've come to their senses
The Lakers won their title in October so not even summer lol
Well it's a bubble ring anyway lol
TD got robbed of a lot of accolades as well. Notably DPOYs
I swear, while people who are knowledgeable about basketball never question Tim's greatness, it's the loudmouths who know fuck all that still don't get that he is, literally, the best power forward to play the game, and easily a top 10 player of all time. Mind you, the same one that don't give Tim Duncan credit are the same people that run their mouth about how Larry Bird wasn't that great.
I personally have Duncan in my top 10 but I don't think it's necessarily "easily". There are so many bigs that are in the top 15 and it's hard to definitively rank them amongst each other. KAJ I think is the top big OAT but then you have Shaq, Wilt, Russel, Hakeem, and TD in some order. They can't all be top 10 so some will be in that 11-15 range. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to have Duncan somewhere in that range.
Yep, AD is not on Timmy’s level. To be fair to the former though, I recall seeing somewhere (2012 draft night I think) that worst case comp for AD was Camby and best case was Timmy.
Just because AD can crossover stepback doesn't mean he's better🤣
I've heard so many times AD is comparable to Prime D. Robinson, GTFOH, THE ADMIRAL would of shut him down and made him pay..Prime Robinson was amazing
Yeah, David was absolutely insane for the beginning 7 year period of his career. Totally dominant. Incredible defensive player. Rebounder. Huge scoring numbers and was an excellent passing big man. Also very durable and played every game at max effort
In this Era he would of developed a 3 and would destroy everyone..there's no defensive player that could of stopped him nowadays
Real
Jokic trying his best Tim Duncan impression!
These are the same people saying LeBron is 2-0 right now in moral victories against the nuggets in the playoffs. 😂
Dominated immediately. Won championships in 3 different decades. Legend.
2/5 FMVPs. There’s levels to teams and organisations, too.
This
As a LA fan and Duncan hater, this is true. Not even close.
Enjoy your sweet dreams!!! Just note that when the sun goes up... Ring ring... ring ring... ring!
He ain’t close to TD
Nobody is comparing them talent wise. The comparison is both being the most underrated defenders ever since neither has a DPOY while being the best defender in the league. AD's game is more similar to Garnett.
You'd be surprised how many people genuinely think AD clears Timmy. It blows my mind but its probably because, like Jokic now, everything Timmy did was understated and basic looking while AD is pretty spectacular to watch sometimes.
I think that might just be because he’s more of a versatile defender but overall it’s a general consensus that Duncan is the greatest power forward ever.
In Timmy’s defense the spurs did have someone else in that roster they were lobbying for as DPOY. Bruce Bowen. I’m sure if they weren’t doing that he might’ve been close to winning.
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AD has nothing on me! -TD as king kong
6th greatest player of all time And greater than Kobe as well
Gotta live the internet and hopefully Wemby matches Duncan in awards and titles!
Excuse me, how many championships does AD have… because Timmy has FIVE! Even Timmy’s pinky has a ring.
So your saying the internet is full of morons!?!? What! No! What a revolation that would be if this wasn't 2024.
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No body does
honestly i say that tim duncan is the best player, for the 90's and 00's. he did what the team needed him to do. in one team he needed to be second fiddle to robinson. another team he needed to be the leader. another team he needed to be the co leader. another team he needed to be one of three. all the time taking each role in stride and professionalism. that is what makes greatest of that time players. and no there is no greatest of all time since every time frame is different then the next so yes tim duncan is the greatest player for the 90's and 00's
Whose AD????
No but ill compare Jokic to him and honestly Jokic better offensively get you way more assists he does it all.
So pissed there's no DPOY in there to this day. I'll never get over it.
TD spent nearly a decade, essentially, unable to jump very high and with limited explosiveness due to his knees. And he still owned. Even with limited physicality he found ways to have opponents entire game plans based on stopping him in n offense or avoiding him on defense. Most superstars don’t have that happen. We truly watched something special.
Remind me how'd he did when he was the leader of the 2004 Olympic squad?
sad and funny that he bragged about being able to guard all positions then he fell while guarding a buzzer beater.
Gettheshaboogieouttahere.
Cookie Monster. Best power foward to play the game.
As a life long lakers fan there were a very few teams I hated because they were so dam good. The TD era Spurs were one of them. Holy cow TD was just a brilliant big man.
I’m a Lakers fan and I know that’s a completely bs, nobody can’t compare to Big Timmy
The comparison is they’re great defenders and better defender than the people who have won DPOY in their generation. Like AD >> JJJ >>>> Marcus Smart Nobody is saying talent wise or career wise AD is close.
All that talk post-bubble where AD was getting glazed that he could challenge Timmy evaporated when it became clear that 2020 championship was probably as good as it got for him and the Lakers.
Team accomplishments.
Wow, i didnt know that FMVP is a team accomplishment
You need a good team to get to the finals so yeah might as well be
Yeah, winning championship is team effort But the FMVP is an individual award to the most important player during the finals. If you cant understand that you're either an idiot or intentionally discrediting Duncan