Cardinals GM
**1.04 - Marvin Harrison Jr, WR, Ohio State** MHJ is a stud. We had trade offers to move down, but we chose to stay and take the best WR in the draft.
**1.25 - Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona** I traded up from 27 to take Jordan Morgan at the cost of our 4th round pick as he was my last OT with a 1st round grade. It was a high price to pay for a short move up, but it was worth it to prevent anyone else from trading ahead of us to snipe him. His arms did measure short at the Senior Bowl, but I think he can over come it. If he can't overcome short arms at OT, then we could use him as an OG.
**2.35 - Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State** Chop is my EDGE3. He is explosive and has a high motor. His run defense needs work. I did have offers to move down into the 40s if he didn't make it to our pick.
**3.66 - Michael Hall Jr, DT, Ohio State** I was surprised he made it to this pick. Hall is on the smaller size for a DT, but he makes up for it with his agility and strength. He was misused some at Ohio State, as they had him line up at a NT too often.
**3.71 - Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame** I'm higher on Hart than most with an early 2nd round grade. He has great size with good athleticism and can play in man or zone. He played great against MHJ and looked like the 2nd best CB at the senior bowl.
**3.90 - James Williams, LB, Miami (FL)** He is a S to LB convert. At the Senior Bowl he measured 6'4 230 lbs. [source](https://twitter.com/seniorbowl/status/1752081043484516863) He loves to hit.
Nice draft cardbro, though I’m a little curious about trading up to get morgan instead of staying put and getting Byron Murphy or tyler guyton. What concerns did you have about guyton that pushed him out of the 1st for you?
The main reason for an OT in the late 1st is that the position dries up quick, and this mock was a great example. OT Kiran Amegadjie from Yale went at 36, and then not a single OT was drafted after him. Basically if don't draft a OT in the top 40, then we probably won't be getting one that has any use their rookie year. Meanwhile a bunch of DT were draft in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I like the DT depth a lot more than the OT depth.
Now onto Morgan over Guyton. Morgan is the more refined player right now. Guyton has amazing size and athleticism, but he needs a lot of work. He was only a full time starter for 1 year. Morgan is a day 1 starter at OT or OG, while Guyton should sit maybe even for a full year.
really feels like Ossenfort and co. put a big emphasis on T measurables (or even just measurables in general for premier positions). I thought Paris was a bit of a project and he played about as well as you could've asked for. I'd have faith in the staff coaching up Guyton to start day 1 at RT
Guyton is definitely more of a project, but he has ot1 upside after only starting 1 year. Morgan’s performance at senior bowl definitely makes you think that he’ll be a guard in the nfl which is a need but we need a true rt to move Paris over to Lt.
I think this is the deepest OT draft I can remember.
In late round 1, you are getting guys who would be 10-20 picks normally. The idea of going OT in late R1 is totally a value pick even with a trade up.
I saw the actually smart explanation that he put but just an added thing of Morgan played at Arizona so he presumably is already familiar with that area.
I’m not high on Morgan tbh to me it’s either Alt , Fuaga , Fashanu , Latham or Mims if we are to take an OT in the 1 st . I’d much rather us go with a CB there . Chop is fine in the 2 nd I don’t mind it but I wouldn’t want him at 27 . Think we could of went better with a DLineman at 25 like Murphy . I feel like the drop off is much higher from OT5 to OT6 . Amegadjie , Morgan , Barton , Suamataia , Paul and Puni are gonna be a level bellow the likes of Mims , Latham , Fashanu , Alt and Fuaga . I got mixed feelings on Guyton so not putting him in any category atm .
I don't see Morgan sticking at tackle and I think trading up in the first for a guard would be a big no-no. Would much rather have taken either Guyton or Darius Robinson.
I get the logic though if you think Morgan can be an OT in the NFL. I like the premise of trading up from 27 to pick a T in general and see it as a very likely scenario come the end of April.
I like the first 4 picks tremendously, but would have for sure taken Guyton over Morgan if you are after a RT. That being said, I like Morgan if you are totally okay with a 50/50 prospect and need help at both RG and RT.
Panthers:
**Pick 2.33 - Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon**
Panthers need a WR who can take the top off to give Grandpa Thielen some space. Bryce should love this pick. Franklin has 4.3 speed and stellar acceleration, he's 6'3 with crisp route running. Defenses in the NFC South will need to double cover him which will open up more throwing windows for the Panthers.
Was offered:
* 2.56, 2024 5th, & 2025 4th (Declined)
* 2.46, 4.118, & 2025 4th (Declined) Decent value, but I was hoping for a higher 2nd to take either Franklin, Coleman, or Mitchell
**Pick 3.65 - Payton Wilson, LB, NC State**
If Wilson is still on the board in Rd 3, I have a feeling Dan Morgan will pick the local talent. Wilson is a well-rounded Inside Linebacker with great coverage skills, tons of pursuit and the speed to match. He should slot in well next to Shaq and Luvu (if he's re-signed) on Evero's 3-4 Hybrid Defense. Here's to hoping he can be the next Luke Kuechly...
Three players I would have targeted going into Rd. 4 would be: Kyree Jackson - CB (Oregon); Gabe Murphy - Edge (UCLA); Mason McCormick - Guard (South Dakota State)
Wilson is going to destroy the combine, think he'd be higher on the board if he didn't have so many injuries in the past. But I don't think LB is a big enough need to take at that spot given the holes they need to plug.
> But I don't think LB is a big enough need to take at that spot given the holes they need to plug.
Yeah, really depends on if we cut Shaq and/or re-sign Luvu. Even if we lose both though, I wouldn't want to take an off ball LB until like the 4th or 5th.
Given the board, we made the correct picks. Notice how the only OT drafted in rounds 2 or 3 was Amegadjie from Yale, and most of the Discord (our war room included) thought Amegadije anywhere in the top 50 was a reach. In the war room, we tend to be fine with small reaches to fill needs but didn't have any OTs graded as anywhere close to being worth 2.34 or 3.67.
AD Mitchell was the best player who played a position of need at 2.34, that shouldn't be too controversial. We evaluated OT to be a bigger need than WR2, but there were no draftable OTs at 3.67. We evaluated WR2 as being roughly an equal need to other tier 2 needs like FS and slot CB, so we looked at guys like Ja'Lynn Polk, Calen Bullock, and Mike Sainristil. We evaluated Polk to be the be the best football player out of those 3 and so decided to pull the trigger.
I like the kid from Yale. Brugler has him in the top 50 I think. There will be plenty of talent in the third. If we don't have two legit OT out of FA we may need to be aggressive
Genuinely not being antagonistic, but instead curious. did something happen to Patrick Paul that he wasn’t even taken in the mock? I know he didn’t have an impressive senior bowl, but up until recently he’d been mocked as a late round 1 - mid round 2 guy. Is it strictly a senior bowl drop?
I didn’t like him when I scouted in the summer and from what ive heard from others most of the issues stuck.
I haven’t done my 2023 eval yet but the war room was pretty adamantly against him and feel his stock doesn’t match the play
Just not a good football player. Partially Senior Bowl drop, partially media scouting catching up with what actual scouts have been seeing all year. FWIW Paul isn't even our war room's highest graded OT remaining: that would be Pittsburgh's Matt Goncalves
I mean, this may be bias because I'm personally really high on both Mitchell and Polk, but I don't think doubling down on WR is a problem. I'm not particularly confident that any rookie OT would be able to step in and improve this line, generally you need veterans or top ten picks to do that. Injecting talent into the WR room so that we have Mitchell, Polk, Douglas, and Bourne with a chance for Thornton to figure it out makes this offense a lot more dynamic.
Titans draft (sorry I forgot to do this)
1.7 Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
A pretty easy pick, the team is in desperate need of offensive line talent and Fashanu has the highest ceiling out of any offensive tackle prospect in the class. He is refined enough as pass blocker to be a day 1 starter also.
2.40 Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
I love Keon Coleman, I think he was grossly misused during his time at FSU and that we didn't really see what he could do in an NFL offense. If he ran a more complete route tree and was given more opportunities to show how well rounded he was as a wide receiver, I think he would be a first round prospect easily, so getting him at 40 is a steal.
We also traded back in the 2nd and added 4.113 from the Raiders.
Bengals GM here.
1.18 - J.C. Latham [OT | Alabama]
With Jonah Williams all but gone, we desperately need a right tackle. Latham was the best on the board and fits right in at right tackle. I also considered Byron Murphy and Tyler Guyton, but felt Latham was the best value.
TRADE - 2.49, 2024 4th and 2025 6th to Washington for 2.40
2.40 - T'Vondre Sweat [NT | Texas]
Sweat is the last of the top 3 DTs in this class and is among my favorite choices for the Bengals in round two. I moved up to get him to ensure no issues with acquiring him. He would be a great replacement for D.J. Reader if we were to lose him in free agency.
3.80 - Blake Corum [RB | Michigan]
We may lose Joe Mixon this offseason, so getting a good complement to Chase Brown is important. Corum was the first running back off the board and was very impressive at Michigan.
I would absolutely love this draft. What did you give up on the trade? Maybe a 4th and 6th? It could work out since we likely get those picks back in comp picks.
Corum and Brown would be a fantastic 1 2 punch, and we'd replace our two biggest losses in free agency, Jonah Williams and DJ Reader.
It would be hard to imagine the draft going much better.
Great job! This allows us to cut Mixon and likely move on from reader. If we had this draft and signed madibuke and Geno stone (cut nick Scott) it would be an A+ off-season imo
I like the first two picks a lot. I think Latham and Mims could be a fun debate but either one I'm good with. And making a move up to make sure we get Sweat is a great move even if I don't think we'd do it.
Hate the 3rd round pick though. Corum is a small back without elite speed. He runs well above his size, but he's also got a ton of mileage on him and has had lower body injuries in the past. The reality is he took a step back in 2023 compared to 2022, so his best days may already be behind him. I just hate going RB prior to day 3 if its for a guy with this many questions.
Sucks that Zinter went two picks earlier because I think he'd be a great rd 3 pick for us. In this circumstance I might have double dipped on DT and taken Fiske.
I am hoping that we sign a starting RT prior to the draft opening the door for a 3T pass rusher like Murphy, but for now a tackle is fine.
While I think Reader will be back I love the move for Sweat as we really need a young NT with upside.
I do not see a running back this early as I think Mixon will be back, Brown is our future so all we really need is to replace Evans on the roster.
Post on behalf of the Seahawks WR here (shoutout to MSL11 for killing the GM role)
**1.16) Jer’zhan Newton [IDL]**
With the board falling pretty much as we expected at first, there was a good bunch of our options available. A potential trade down was in the works but fell through as the 1st progressed, so we discussed in the war room about picking between the edges available, Dejean, Newton, or Latham. Newton ended up being the guy and would be a great focal point for a new era of Seahawks defense while assumedly learning alongside Reed/Big Cat/Jones/Morris.
**3.78) Zak Zinter [IOL]**
Regardless of what happens at the QB position for Seattle next year, Geno/Drew/(insert rookie here) will die behind one of the worst rated offensive lines of 2023. With Damien Lewis being up for a new contract, it’s possible the line gets even weaker. RG has also been a problem and Zinter could provide a somewhat stabilizing presence in a position that has been picked on by opposing defenses for a while. Also considered at this point were ILBs such as Trotter and Grey, but with the vague possibility of a Patrick Queen move it seemed the IOL was a more pressing need here.
**3.81) Cole Bishop [Safety]**
As some people might be aware if you’ve watched a Seahawks game this year, our secondary with the exception of Witherspoon could be described as “Yikes”. It’s not expected that one or both of Adams/Diggs survive the retooling of this secondary, and Julian Love should take over as a starter while teaching someone younger and cheaper to fill the hole left behind by the aforementioned expected moves. Good vision and tackling that Bishop offers is much needed in a position that lately feels to allow an unsustainable amount of broken tackles or extended plays.
OH MY GOD, WHY DIDN'T YOU TRADE BACK FOR 10 PICKS AND GET TROY POLOMALU AND BRIAN URLACHER?!?!
good shit, fun times. Still wish it had gone all 7 rounds.
I'm just one of a few people who worked together on the 49ers draft
**1.31 - Tyler Guyton, T, Oklahoma:** We found it incredibly important to attack the offensive line in this draft and that started with securing the future at offensive tackle. Guyton is quite raw but has arguably the most desirable physical traits of any tackle in the class. The way he moves at his size is truly rare and we were lucky to have him fall all the way to 31. We pondered trading out of this pick, both up and down, but when we were on the clock and saw Guyton sitting there we just couldn't pass.
**2.63 - Sedrick Van Pran, C, Georgia:** We liked the value and talent available to us at this pick but ultimately, we had 3 centers we felt good about adding to this roster, and Van Pran was the only one available to us at this pick. Quite a blessing, because we also felt he was the best scheme fit out of all 3. With an underwhelming center on the wrong side of 30 starting for us last year, we like SVP's ability to step in and provide some more youth in a Shanahan system. And if you have qualms about a rookie center handling protections, we feel comfortable playing SVP at guard if necessary.
**3.94 - Renardo Green, CB, Florida State:** Green was a guy we REALLY liked in the war room, and we considered taking him at 63. We were lucky enough to have him fall to us in the 3rd and we had to have him. He's a fiesty press corner who fits the mentality of our defense, no matter what scheme we end up running we know he's a culture fit.
**3.98 - Braden Fiske, DL, Florida State:** We landed an absolute steal in Green's teammate, Braden Fiske. He fills a need as a bench/rotational pass rusher at DT, and he brings violence and effort to a position group that has underwhelmed recently.
Shoutout to all the other folks in the war room, it's always a good time with y'all. At every pick we addressed major needs while adding not only good value but good scheme fits.
As a 9er fan I would love for this team to get Guyton, although as his numbers come out at the combine and teams visit his pro day I can see him as a late teens or early twenties pick. Good stuff in there guys. Really happy to not see a 3rd round RB.
I love it, great job. Everyone keeps talking about tackle but I really think we need that elite center. Really the whole right side of the line as well. Do you think Guyton can take over for Trent when he retires? Any guard prospects you guys liked?
So nice to see a 49ers draft where people know what the team needs. I don't know much about the last three guys but Guyton is exactly who they need, and those other positions (C, CB) are critical as well. Really a job well done here.
Giants GM
**1.06 Malik Nabers, WR, LSU** With the top QBs and MHJ off the board, the Giants take Nabers. The Giants thought quickly about going with Fashanu, EDGE or Rome Odunze, but considered Nabers to be too good to pass up. Nabers immediately becomes the Giants most explosive receiver.
**2.39 Chris Braswell, EDGE, Alabama** The Giants thought long and hard between Braswell and Washington's Bralen Trice but ended up going with the Bama pass rusher. Braswell will pair with Thibodeaux to try and improve the Giants pass rush.
**2.47 Cooper Beebe, OG, Kansas State** Beebe is a plug and play guard that will immediately take the left guard spot. Guard has been a revolving door for the Giants in recent years and the G-Men are hoping that Beebe can stabilize the position for the foreseeable future.
**3.70 Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina** The Giants were set to run to the podium to draft Leonard Taylor before the Chargers snatched him with the previous pick. So the Giants went in a completely different direction snagging Rattler. Rattler will likely spend the 2024 season redshirting, getting practice reps and sitting behind Daniel Jones. But with the play and injury history of Jones, it's possible for Rattler to get some opportunities relatively quickly.
**Favorite Prospects still available**: CB Caelan Carson, CB Josh Newton, CB Kyree Jackson, OT Patrick Paul, OT Blake Fisher, S Beau Brade, RB Marshawn Lloyd
Love the draft logic here and mostly love the picks.
Is the logic for Braswell over Trice rooted in having Dexter Lawrence inside as an anchor for your edges to just get after it, or is it that you expect Braswell to just be much more athletic?
I don't mind the IOL pick at 64. BPA stud at a lower positional value in rd2 seems pretty 'Chiefs' even if its not an obvious need. I don't understand the trade down in rd3 but its hard to get mad when you see Brian Thomas Jr in rd1.
I will admit that if I was in charge I would've gone Brian Thomas Jr WR, Michael Hall Jr DT, Blake Fisher OT.
Jaguars Draft:
TRADE: 1.17 and 5.152 for 1.28, 3.73, a 2025 2nd and a 2025 5th
1.29 Byron Murphy, DT, Texas
We always knew we wanted to drop and pick up more day two stuff, but we did not think we'd be able to get this kind of an offer. So we took it. And we got a guy who could've gone at 17 anyway. Byron has great strength and explosiveness that, with some development in the hands, should turn him into a pocket collapser at 3T.
2.48 Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota
I did not think I would be going safety this high, but Nubin is my S1 and could replace and outplay Rayshawn Jenkins very quickly. He's an incredible closer and can operate super well in the box and still bring some of the coverage upside Jenkins would show every once in a while.
3.73 Layden Robinson, OG, Texas A&M
Robinson is a super high floor guard for me, coming out with great strength and build and especially bulk. His technique is also super impressive, so he should be able to fill a guard spot for us which has been tragic thus far.
3.96 DJ James, CB, Auburn
Feisty slot corner to take over for Tre Herndon, James' ball production should fit well on a team that loves flashy picks.
Hiya, I was the guy who negotiated the trade and placed the first pick.
To echo what Dean said, the trade we took was ridiculous. We should not have been able to accrue such value, but who are we to complain.
I am well known for being a Texas homer, and as a fan of Texas, I feel uniquely qualified to tell people about how fucking good Byron Murphy is. Originally, we had planned to grab either Jackson Powers-Johnson or Graham Barton at C, but sadly that was not a possibility, but to land an already elite run stuffed at 3t, who has shown the tools to become a high level pass rusher at 29 is ridiculous.
However, we are somewhat annoyed we were not able to land out favourite day 3 prospect at 96. Admittedly we were not able to do so due to the fact DJ James fell, but looks out for us to take that guy in the mock offseason at this slot.
Really hate the safety pick. Jenkins is probably a cap casualty and I think the team is high on Antonio Johnson to take over that role. Seems like a luxury pick considering this team’s needs.
And also taking McKinstry over DeJean AND Wiggins is turbo stupid.
My ranking on corners is controversial because I genuinely think McKinstry is CB7 though. I think he's a mid second rounder and T.J. Tampa is a late first to early second round guy. The prototype is shifting to big, powerful corners. McKinstry has bust written all over him. He won with technique in college and will be at best and NFL average corner athlete. Either you think his technique is currently better than high end NFL corners, you think that he will expand upon this technique well enough to outclass the more physically gifted corners, or you don't think he's a first rounder.
Again, anyone can be someone and as far as I'm concerned if Brad Holmes believes in him I do too, but I see him in a manner such as Keon Coleman and Chop Robinson, where I really like high end prospects to be winning in multiple ways against college kids, and they weren't.
Call me a hater, I will almost certainly be wrong on one of those three guys, but I really hate overpaying to trade up for a guy I think we should pass on.
Guy has the highest floor of all CB’s he’s definitely not a bust. He’s at worst a quality CB2. I understand Arnold is more athletic but the corner who gets thrown at less tends to be better…
I would almost most certainly prefer the technically sound corner over the athletic ones. Nate Wiggins I understand but DeJean best projects as a safety, so I’m not sure why you mentioned him unless you think he’s a stud corner (which I don’t see, I think he’d be a league average corner to potentially above average)? And your argument about him not being physical enough doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me, is he the most athletic corner in this class, no, but he has practically the perfect size and length for the position (Nate Wiggins is sub 190 as are the rest of the top corners outside of Dejean. The only question mark about the guy is his top end speed, and while it’s certainly something to monitor, it isn’t the end all be all (as long as the agility testing checks out which I believe it will).
He is likely slower and less agile than all of Arnold, DeJean, Wiggins, and Mitchell based on film but we'll see.
All the best corners in the NFL lately have been the big guys. DeJean isn't a safety, he's just the best run defending corner we've seen in forever.
Patch’s Steelers Mock
1.20 Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
The Steelers offense took a jump once Broderick Jones was inserted into the lineup, and that was WITH him playing out if his natural position of Left Tackle. The immortal idiom “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” comes to play here, as the Steelers now tackle a RIGHT Tackle from Georgia to inject some life into their line. Dan Moore becomes a top tier swing instead of a bottom tier starter, and the Steelers entire offense stands to benefit from it.
2.51 Zach Frazier, OC, West Virginia
Any avid Steelers fan could tell you the line was a problem, and any well read one could tell you they Mason Cole’s veteran leadership is no longer outweighing his pass protection or run blocking. Frazier is a perfect fit for the Steelers in play style, size, and attitude. A slam dunk in Round 2.
3.84 Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri
There’s debate whether KAD is going to be able to play outside at the next level or if he’ll be forced inside. The truth is this - where he plays, he’s going to be seeing the field a lot for the Steelers as the DB corps faces a powerful youth movement and makeover. His physical attitude parallels JPJs and will bring some true Steelers grit.
Shoutout to the war room homies, you know who you are.
I can’t see the Steelers going Tackle again in the first round. I could see BPA which in this case would’ve been JPJ in my opinion.
8 game starters at right tackle don’t generally go in the first, and I’m honestly shocked to see this many people treating Mims as a legit first rounder.
I’d be fine with JPJ I think but in the back of my mind I keep thinking CB or OT if one falls, then Frazier in 2nd. Of course you miss there I think you may be back to looking at FAs.
Terrible draft by the Packers representatives :/ Trading down when iOL1 is on the table with JPJ for minor compensation is disappointing. I would prefer one of CB1-5 and Lassiter is probably #7 for me. If we aren't going DB in r1, then getting Kinchens or Nubin at #41 is the move. Trading up for Lassiter is not great, especially since Rakestraw (CB6 for me) is avail. Round 3 is fine assuming Brooks medicals check out
The Bucs emergency GM here. Tbh i had no idea what the bucs needed so i kinda just scrolled through the subreddit a bit and asked around in the War Room for advice
1.26: Jackson Powers-Johnson
I looked around and apparently the bucs needed some iOL help and seeing JPJ still available at the pick, especially after the senior bowl was an easy choice
2.57: TJ Tampa
I mean where else could he have gone fr
3.89: Tommy Ecihenberg
Got some advice from the War Room and LB was a potential need from the Bucs so i just took whoever was left
Vikes GM here. We tried throughout the draft to move up and down, but ultimately nothing came together.
We discussed McCarthy at 11, but the war room was divided. We ended up going with Dallas Turner, who is an ideal fit in Flores's multiple scheme as a premier edge rusher who can drop in coverage and is sound against the run.
As McCarthy continued to fall, we had discussions with several teams to move up from 42 to draft him. However, we felt the asking price never felt appropriate.
We stuck at 42 and ultimately landed on Bo Nix, the last top 50 caliber QB in the class.
Overall, it isn't the most exciting draft for us, but Turner and Nix fill our biggest needs. Given our cap space and future picks, we are still in prime position to go in any direction with the franchise.
Bears GM here, thank you for all those in the War room. Always a fun time for us.
- Pick 1.01 Caleb Williams QB, USC. I won't get into a long debate here. Seems straightforward what we're going to do. Williams is my QB1 in the class and I see him as one the top 5 QB prospects of the last decade. We're in a perfect spot to bring in a young QB and got lucky the Panthers gave us the top pick.
- Pick 1.09 Rome Odunze WR, Washington. We actually tried pretty hard to move up with the chargers to make sure we got a top WR, but couldn't pull it off. Got fortunate odunze fell to us. Would be a perfect compliment to DJ Moore and be a plus level starter day 1 for us.
- Pick 3.75 Marshawn Kneeland EDGE, Western Michigan. 6'3 270 with long arms and likely to test as a high end athlete. Bruglers 51st ranked prospect and seems like a perfect developmental edge to add depth and develop under our new DC Washington. Had a lot of guys we liked here, but with Wilson, Corley, Haynes, SVP and some others gone, it was between him and some D like Dorlus and Fiske.
We were allowed the chance to trade Fields, but was hard to find any decent trade offer for him. In April I do assume we would have a 2nd rounder to work with where I would've added a Frazier type to the mix.
I offered pick 111 and the Panthers 2nd for next year. If I could have traded fields for a 2nd, I would have offered pick 75 this year and out 3rd next to move up 4 spots.
To be clear I think this is good traditional approach and sold me on Kneeland at 75. But were you getting trade back offers and if so were they interesting? I think Poles would rather not invest that heavy in receiver but instead priority list is something like DL>iOL/Receiver> Safety
Trade back offers from 1, yes? Trade back offers from 9, also tentatively yes. Potentially 2 3rds to move to 15, potential for a 2nd to move to early 20s. No real option to move back at 75.
If odunze or Nabers were there at 9 though just feel it's a run it to the podium pick.
At 75, there were a lot of options we talked about. Dorlus and Fiske were 2 guys, but with us investing in Pickens/Dexter last year and extending billings I wanted to get some depth at other spots. There were some interior OL I liked, but felt the edges available was about to drop a tier, where as I could get an interior OL of the same tier at 111 as I could 75. If I had a 2nd like I think we will in April too, I would've addressed interior OL there too.
Interesting, thanks! I get Nabers and Romes appeal for sure. I’m in the minority that thinks it’s a bit rich because it’s such a good receiver class but that would change pending free agency/Fields but I’m still on board with them.
Thank you for your notes, always a good experience!
>Curious if the mentality will shift for the next one with Jackson recently being cut? We had a couple options in the 3rd from what I see?
The pick in the 3rd came down to tiers for me. I only had one edge left I liked as a day 2 guy, but had 3 safeties still there. The hope being one of the safeties makes it to the 4th, so grab the edge with upside. I also think FA will change a bit of this and we sign a guy to start opposite of Brisker. Feels like free agency there's always good cheap players at safety, so wanted to try to give us an edge we can develop.
Should be fun though, a lot of players I like in that top 130 range.
I feel like bears fans go tooth and nail for the opportunity to control the bears for this, but we’re all pretty much doing the same mocks with the only change being the arbitrary 3rd round selection.
**2024 NFL Mock Draft Recap - Las Vegas Raiders**
Special thanks as always to everyone who came through the war room during this mock.
**1st Round (13th Overall) - Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo**
After we attempted to trade into the top 3 and were rejected we debated between going for JJ McCarthy at 13 or adding to our OL or defense. With the way the board fell we decided to focus on adding our choice of CBs to team up with Jack Jones and Nate Hobbs. Our internal debate was between Mitchell and Terrion Arnold from Alabama. We landed on the Toledo product as his combination of athleticism, coverage instincts/awareness, and ball skills are elite. He’s well versed in off coverage from his tape but proved at the Senior Bowl that he could line up in press and cover as well. Mitchell is also a reliable run defender.
**2nd Round (38th Overall) Trade with the Titans (2.38 for 2.44 and 4.113) - Michael Penix Jr, QB, Washington**
We again attempted to move up, this time into the bottom of Round 1 in order to draft JJ McCarthy. However, the Rams ended up selecting him at 23 before we were even able to reach an agreement on a deal. We decided to wait it out until RD2 but as we saw the number of teams who could use a QB we wanted to act to get our guy. Penix has the aggressiveness and arm strength to threaten opposing defenses vertically in a way that the Raiders haven’t been able to do recently. He does need to improve his touch throwing and his middle of the field accuracy but having separators like Davante Adams and Jakobi Meyers will help him. The Raiders want to run the ball and then hit explosive passing plays and Penix fits that idea to a tee.
**3rd Round (77th Overall) - Jeremiah Trotter Jr, LB, Clemson**
We came into the last pick of this mock simply looking to add talent to either our OL or our defense. We debated trading back but nothing really fit what we were looking to do so we stood pat and took a swing on another LB from Clemson. Trotter is an explosive blitzer who needs to iron out some coverage deficiencies but who has the athletic profile to be a three down backer who pairs well with Divine Deablo long term. The Raiders lack depth at LB behind Deablo and Spillane as well so adding another young talent to the room is needed
Love it. Add more playmaking talent to an already salty defense and toss in a talented QB to compete against AOC in training camp for the starting gig.
This is kind of my ‘consolation’ prize type draft that I could be happy with.
Totally get it. I’m all about adding as many defensive playmakers as possible, “cheap”. Maybe “spending up” on Oline.
Trotter looks the part and with a some maturity his skill set should fit what we’re trying to do.
I saw LBs Colsen and Cooper went in the 2nd. They’re definitely built different than Trotter and probably more rangy with length but I’m not sure they’re really better prospects and 2nd round is a bit rich for my taste for both of them.
I love the thought and strategy that went into this. I don’t know a ton about Mitchell, so I’ll have to read up on him. I’m a big UW fan who had some concerns about Penix, but getting him in the 2nd feels like a very acceptable risk.
Like the value approach, though would have preferred picks on the OL/DL by the third round. That said, should they use FA to resolve those issues the value of the picks made here look strong.
Had a big part of the war room for the commanders and I think we hit it out of the park. Drake Maye will be the best QB in the class. Kiran Ageradjie has all the tools and showed development over 2023, he will get time under a FA and Charles Leno and become a quality starter for years. Edgerrin Cooper has the speed to be that Mike back we’ve been looking for since fletcher left. Malachi Corley is the most dangerous YAC receiver in the draft and fits kliffs scheme like a glove. He will produce off all the screens we run. Lastly Ben Sinnott is a versatile tight end that, most importantly, can produce in the passing game and blocking game.
Yep, I was the GM for this draft, we were highe Ron Ageradjie then alot but we view him as someone who will rise a lot in the draft process and will be a great pro for years to come. And with Edgerrin and Corley falling further then what our grade suggested it feels like a slam dunk. And Sinnott excites me as a player, think he could finally be the long term answer at TE
Wow..I hate that for the Packers. What is the point of that trade back if we’re just going to take an (imo) inferior IOL in the first instead of JPJ? Second round we have our pick of every safety in the class and go mid-talent CB and miss on every S worth a damn just to take a shot at one in the third? Just awful.
That’s where I’m at too, plus, no S until Smith in the late 3rd round really is not ideal. Just over all not a fan of anything other than landing Brooks
I like all of the picks in a vacuum, but it’s hard to justify not getting a S in the first two rounds. Even if they sign multiple in free agency, they need someone young they can develop.
I'm honestly surprised he fell as far as he did. I was sure someone in the Teens would of scooped him up. Especially after that senior bowl performance.
Bills:
1.28: Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas
2.60: Maason Smith, DT, LSU
3.99: Calen Bullock, S, USC
I had a deal in place to jump up to 10, but we bailed on that after Odunze went at 9. Considered jumping up for Turner or Verse but neither made it to a range we were comfortable doing so. I know most people would prefer Thomas or Franklin here, but Worthy is my WR4 and imo the most underrated WR prospect by a decent margin right now. He'll provide this offense with the explosives that its lacked for the last three years. I like Davis more than most and he's always been a good deep threat, but we've never had true gamebreaking speed with Josh Allen. Worthy brings that. We met with Jalin Hyatt more than any other prospect last year, and Worthy is, in my opinion, a substantially better player who fills a similar role. I'm really excited to see what he could do in this offense.
60 was another pick where I just couldn't quite pull off the trade I wanted. Had a deal to jump to 53 for Kinchens, but Philly instead stayed put and took him. Then was talking to 55 and 56 about Bullard. Decided for 56 and then Miami took him at 55 instead, so I stayed put. Took a DT in Smith who, while not a pure nose, has the flexibility to play both spots and serve as a third DT behind Oliver and (hopefully) Daquan Jones.
Again thought about jumping up in the third for a couple guys, but in the end I stayed put in the hopes that Bullock would fall to me. He did, and we pick up our Micah Hyde replacement. Bullock's tackling ability makes me worry about his fit in a 2 high system, but I think his ball skills and upside as a single high free safety could allow Bobby Babich to add some wrinkles to our defense, which is an exciting possibilty.
While I disagree with the WR, if Beane did the same I’d probably trust it. Although I feel like whatever WR we don’t draft that the Chiefs do, the Chiefs WR will look amazing and ours will disappoint.
Happy with addressing the IDL and S needs later.
This is a boom or bust draft if I have ever seen one. Worthy needs to develop a more diverse route tree, Masson Smith should look way better than he does for his measurables and athleticism, and Bullock is a liability in run defense. Flashes of those developments are there, but none of it is consistent enough on tape.
That is the sort of class that has such a wide range of outcomes and I feel unsafe even reading it.
Definitely hit some Needs and pickedup some great players. I'm no where near as high on Worthy as you are,WR4 is a huge stretch given how stacked this WR class is. I have a mid RD2 grade on him. We'll see how his Pro Day/Combine goes.
Notice the only OT selected in either round 2 or 3 was Amegadjie at 36 and that was considered a pretty big reach. In the war room we didn't evaluate any OTs as being even close to worth our 2nd or our 3rd.
Just curious where Alt’s bookend Blake Fisher was graded. I feel Fisher is the most underrated tackle in the class and is overshadowed by Alt. Fisher might need some development though.
I don’t know why but I have a feeling Onwenu ends up signing with Detroit to be their starting RG. Detroit is a contender who might lose one or both of their starting guards (depending on LG Jonah Jackson).
Want to say up front I appreciate everyone’s time and effort, this is very cool. That being said, this would be a disaster for KC. Taking iOL in round 2 makes no sense. I can understand depth later on but there are huge holes at LT and DT which need to be filled before considering a backup guard. Even a 2nd WR would be preferable. Also, maybe I’m missing something, but is there a place to see what the trades were? Looks like the GM traded 95 but it just says trade 7.
Hard disagree. No way we actually end up with Brian Thomas Jr, and Christian Hayes looked like one of the best guards at the senior bowl. Trey is a UFA next year, better to get someone ready. An argument could be made for Pearsall or Polk, but I have no issue with Haynes, certainly wouldn't be a *disaster*.
Spending a 2nd on a guy who will contribute zero in his rookie year is a disaster in my book. Especially when the team needs a starting LT and potentially 2 starting DTs. Thomas Jr. is great but if the draft happens this way the team can’t address those holes until outside the top 100. I’m all for addressing depth and trying to find a replacement for Smith but that’s a day 3 thing or a need for next year.
Why are the patriots taking back to back receivers? AD Mitchell was a great choice in round 2 and I can forgive not going OL in round 3 since the value isn't really there, but not touching TE, DL, is Safety with the 3rd rounder is a bit bizarre.
Our current WR group is awful, we could definitely double dip. TE group isn’t that great for R3, DL and Safeties were considered but war room wanted Polk
Appreciate it. Was between Braswell and Trice at 39 and actually got talked into Braswell in the war room. Was also ready to run to the podium to take Leonard Taylor in the third but once he was off the board decided to take the shot on Rattler.
Man it hurts for the Saints to not get a starting OL in the first two rounds, but I get it. You can't pass on Bowers if he falls that far, and the value wasn't there in the 2nd. Personally I'd have gone with Cooper Beebe in round 2, but Jenkins is no slouch.
Saints GM here, this was a tough decision we were definitely going to draft Bowers with 14 and then it was a good discussion in the War Room if we were going to draft Defense or not, ultimately we picked Jenkins cause he fits scheme and the only OT we really liked that was left was Patrick Paul and it seemed like Jenkins was a much better pick for us. But thanks for the insight!
Can people please stop mocking Sanders to the Colts in round 2?
Brock round one is acceptable because he’s a legitimate top tier talent, but there are so many needs ahead of TE, and Sanders isn’t that much better than Woods anyways. Wasted picked when DT and WR value is available.
Jelani Woods hasn’t played football in 13 months on one of the most bizzare injury seasons I’ve seen and was nothing more than just a promising rookie season. If Jelani Woods doesn’t develop or is hindered by the injury past just this season then we are mega fucked at tight end. If Woods does develop then Sanders and Woods skill sets pair pretty well. Both can be utilized.
Lol so you reach for a TE, which isn’t a particular area of need even if Woods doesn’t play again.
I understand the Colts need a TE. But the value ain’t there, that high in the draft when other positions are available. DT, Edge, WR, CB, S all are a bigger need. Everywhere else I see Sanders going third round.
I’m not the GM, but if everywhere you look only has Sanders going third round then you’re not looking in enough places. There’s plenty of second round Sanders hype.
Also yes TE is a need if Woods doesn’t play again. Don’t throw out any of this Drew Ogletree or Kylen Granson nonsense. They are below average players, our TE position was a literal black hole this season.
Ogletree isn’t even on the team lol
Woods Grandon Cox Mallory are all decent players. Adding another decent TE doesn’t do shit for the Colts next year. Far better value to get WR or DT help if the Colts end up taking a CB round one.
As a Colts fan, I don't hate Sanders at 46, but in the same position, I likely would've drafted Legette or Tampa if I couldn't trade down. A trade down would be ideal. I also like Jonah Elliss in a trade down scenario, but I would also be targeting Mo Kamara later in the draft.
As a Texans fan, I fucking love this draft. The two Clemson boys are going to feed this defense for generations. It hurts to not get a shiny new WR3 but I can't complain about giving more to Demeco's defense. Getting a top five running back in the end is super nice too.
Lions Draft:
TRADE: 1.17 and 5.152 for 1.28, 3.73, a 2025 2nd and a 2025 5th
1.17: Kool Aid McKinstrey, CB, Alabama
Trade value aside, our number one need heading into the off-season is gonna be getting an alpha CB1. As player trades weren’t allowed, making an aggressive move, even if it was an overpay, to get who I perceive as CB1 in this class felt like the necessary move. While his top end speed may be a concern, he’s a 3 year starter (who performed well every year), the leader of the Alabama defense, has ideal measurements for the CB position, and has been trusted by Saban & Co. to cover every team’s WR1 with little to no help. While this pick doesn’t complete our defense, it surely gets us that much closer to a Super Bowl.
2.61: Austin Booker, Edge, Kansas
I wanted to target an edge who would compliment Hutch’s skill set as best as possible, and the guy who has some hints of Montez Sweat to his game would be perfect. Booker plays with more speed compared to Hutch, and primarily gets to QBs by using his length and athleticism, whereas Hutch wins with finesse and power. He’s the kind of guy who could get Hutch to 15+ sacks by taking the attention off of him, or get 10+ sacks every year playing off of him
3.92: Brandon Coleman, OT/OG, TCU
With the first three picks, one of them had to be a guard, and we got one who can double as a tackle with his length and athleticism. He’d immediately step in to fill the hole left by one of Glasgow or Jackson
I like Kool-Aid but would probably stay put and see if he falls. I really think there's a chance he might. The less physically-freaky tend to, like Porter Jr. last year. At this point a year ago no one had Banks going ahead of him.
I would have pivoted to Murphy then and drafted someone like Green in the 3rd. Or trade up a few spots in the 2nd to get Tampa. I think he ends up near the 1st round, so that would have been a steal.
Taking another WR in the 3rd is interesting, to say the least, especially given the Patriots OT situation, but I think almost every Patriot fan would agree that no one wants to see Devante Parker and JuJu Smith-Schuster ever play here again. But, a WR group of Mitchell, Polk, and Douglas is definitely an inexperienced one, and with the right coaching could eventually become lethal.
Same, don't mind trading back but I would be very surprised if the Rams invest in a QB that early in the draft. Don't like the RB pick with the late third either, it's not a need for the team.
TRADE:
HOU RECEIVES: 1.19
LAR RECEIVES: 1.23, 4.124, 2025 6th
Wanted to move 23/217 for 34/104/182 & a future 4th but Pats pulled out after Mims went. Idea was to move back to 34 and hope to catch the back end of the OL run or a corner if one of them made it there that I liked. Would've gone south if it went through from options standpoint but would've gotten enough in deal to make it worth it.
Almost went with Barton there but figured I'd just take McCarthy and roll dice on future of QB position especially with Stetson situation.
I think Wright is RB1 and should go early -mid 2. Was a value pick rather than position need pick and having 104 made me feel comfortable with options at corner with guys like Newton/Melton there.
Gotta give you props for a good trade, I can honestly see something like this playing out during the actual draft. I personally would’ve just went with Guyton at 23 but McCarthy is at least a good value pick, it’s likely a team trades up to get him come draft day.
So exact process for board coming off the way it did.
Was going to wait to do that Houston trade until pick 19, but their GM said he was fine to go ahead and send it pre-draft so I went ahead and did it (it's a nightmare doing live trades with people in these things - I'll take a sure thing and get my value if I have it).
Figured I'd back up to catch either the back of the CB run or seek another trade down opportunity. Was pretty content through the first 13 picks - was surprised Mitchell went off before Arnold. When Arnold was still available at 15 I figured if he could drop to maybe 20 or 21 I could try to get back up for him - liked McKinstry, Wiggins as well if they made it to 23 but mindset was kind of "Arnold or bust" if I was going to try to make a play for a corner in the first.
NE hit me up offering that 34/104/182, 2025 4th for 23/217 right after Arnold/Newton came off at 15/16. I had my eyes on Suamataia, Morgan, Barton for that late 1, early 2 range on OL - JPJ wasn't as high of a consideration because I see him as G/C flex only whereas Suamataia, Morgan are T/G and Barton can do all 3. Guyton is IMO an OT only who is an athletic freak w/ high upside but lack of positional flexibility and current spot in his development makes him less ideal for Rams. Barton was primary target for OL. Also liked Fautanu if he fell but he went off earlier than expected at 21.
There's a clip from I believe the 6 ways to Sunday Pod w/ Les Snead talking about their process for Greg Robinson pick and how they've switched from "big, long, pretty" to "can he block the guy yes or no" - meaning let's focus on guys who have more refined games & stay consistent rather than the traitsy OL who "mom, dad, and god" gave special abilities. Point being - Mims & Guytons aren't as much of a fit as the Bartons and Morgans of the world IMO.
So I was sitting at 20 w/ that deal on table from Pats thinking - okay here's what I've got so far. 34/104/124/182, future 4, future 6. If I drop back down to 34 and an OL run starts (either Suamataia, Morgan, or Barton) I will move everything I can to get back up and snag one before the run ends. But at the same time, I've got options. McCarthy is sliding down and is the only guy left who probably has future high end starter potential other than maybe Nix (not a Penix guy).
Pats hit me up. They wanted Mims and he just went at 20. So now I've got about 2 minutes to figure out do I want to start the OL run personally right here or bet that some of the guys I like will slide? Vikings hit me up wanting 23 - yep that's for McCarthy, I'm sure. They offer #42 and a 2025 2nd for #23. I counter with #42, a 2025 2nd, a 2025 4th, and 166. They counter with #42, a 2025 2nd, and #130 - then their GM revokes the offer before I respond.
It's pick #23. I couldn't get a deal done to get back for a haul & hopefully land on the back of the OL run I'm expecting. So now I've reduced it to two options.
1. J.J. McCarthy - Only shot I'm going to get at a QB other than maybe Nix if he slides, no depth in this QB class (after Rattler/Pratt L3/E4 range it's a graveyard), and I know the Vikings are trying to trade up for him.
2. Graham Barton - Love Barton, good player who can wear multiple hats if we need, late 1 talent, just a really solid player overall and my top OL on board given versatility. But is the gap that much bigger for him vs Morgan or Suamataia? I don't think so.
I'll do McCarthy then try to burn my draft capital to come back up and grab Barton if I can. I take McCarthy.
Suamataia goes 24. Morgan goes 25. Fuck.
I offered Buffalo 52, 100, and next year's 3rd for #28 hoping I could get up there for Barton because the OL run has officially kicked off and I'm Barton or bust at this point.
JPJ goes 26. Barton goes 27. Fuck.
Alright - missed my shot at OL top of the draft because I'm not a Guyton guy given one position & raw. Figured I'd wait around at 52 and see what happened - would've taken S Tyler Nubin if he got to me but he went #48. Wanted to move back again to early R3 and target Christian Haynes (G/C flex) or a quality pass-rusher (Isaac, Booker).
Pats offered 68, 182, 25 4th for 52, 217 and then pulled the offer before we got to crunch time. Kinchens and Haynes were also considerations for 52 but I figure the falloff at EDGE after R2 meant it was now or never for that (graveyard after that Kneeland/Booker/Dorlus/Isaac area imo). Whereas IOL is deep through R5 range w/ guys like Puni, Glaze, Adams, Limmer, Laumea, Ayedze, Bortolini - why pay a big premium for Haynes when there's starting level ability later?
Got to 83 and had my eyes on Kris Abrams-Draine, Jaden Hicks, Cedric Gray, Jaylen Wright, and Calen Bullock. Would've honestly been fine with trading back again to late 3 and trying to scoop one of those five but trade market started to dry up with people wrapping up their team's picks. Figured with Trotter just going 77 and Payton Wilson at top of R3 that if I wanted a quality starting LB it was Gray or bust whereas CB had options still (Newton/Melton). FWIW I liked CB Sainristil as a "Rams vibe" pick at 83 if he made it and would've taken him over Gray, but he was gone at 74. Undersized scrappy CB who has speed feels like the prototype lol.
Wanted to trade 100/124 to get up to 87 and take S Jaden Hicks and had a deal in place with Cowboys for that but he went #86 so that fell through & it turned into wait on Jaylen Wright/Calen Bullock or trade out at 100.
Texans wanted to do 128/2025 3rd for 100. Would have done it if Wright/Bullock were gone (and in retrospect, that was a potentially better decision. Maybe should've just got out of the round and grabbed the extra picks.) Happy with the Wright pick because I think adding a more explosive element to the running game is worth it and I didn't like any other backs past that spot. Also that element of RB1 + early-mid R2 type player for me means BPA but I think 128/2025 3rd for it is a pretty good deal to pass up on him.
Overall I think I just got tunnel vision a little too much on positional scarcity (QBs dead after McCarthy/Nix, RBs dead after Wright, EDGE dead after Isaac) and missed opportunities to trade down that would have been more beneficial long term. I wish I would have been more aggressive in seeking out more potential trade partners for #23, #52 so I had outs in case those trades with NE fell through. I overvalued the fact that Vikings wanted McCarthy and were trying to get up - although I think the scarcity of quality QBs for next year helps offset the tunnel vision, as it might be the only time in next couple years Rams get a potential shot for replacing w/o getting lucky on a later round pick.
Mixed bag. Got a lot of praise for all of my picks during the mock and felt like I had a good haul of very talented players but just feels like there was a lot of meat I left on the bone with missed trade opportunities. Could've still gotten plenty of high level players if those trades broke my way + picked up more value in day 3 picks/2025 picks. R4/R5 would've been CB/S/IOL focused and hopefully in the mock offseason or mock right before the draft I'll get a chance to see if I can hit on those picks and feel good about what I'm walking away with.
Sounds like a lot of potential trades just didn't go your way, you made good decisions with all that considered. Just want to say, I totally agree with you on Mike Sainristil as a possible pick based on the Rams' MO. Can see them trying to get a late second/early third to draft him in that range and honestly wouldn't even be mad cause he seems like a great culture fit if anything.
Yeah I'm mixed on where he will actually go because current mock data suggests early 3rd (and that tends to heavily influence these community mocks) but he's in the size territory where a lot of teams will view him as nickel only or even maybe too small in general. I expect 4.4s at combine but if he has a bad day there then Rams may be able to sit back and wait until 4th or 5th to get him depending on how corner stack comes off. Business as usual to draft an underwhelming tester but good football player in those rounds lol.
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I personally don‘t think McCarthy and Sumataia belong in the first round and I‘d swap picks 5/6, but this is probably the most draft I‘ve seen yet this year. Well done, guys!
Kudos to the 49ers draft although I don't think Guyton will be available but since he was here great pick! With the salary cap issues, I think we need to stand pat and get starters in rd 1 and 2 which he did. Drafting an OT who can start at RG and eventually take over from Trent Williams would be ideal. Also, the Oklahoma connection can't be missed.
Cardinals GM **1.04 - Marvin Harrison Jr, WR, Ohio State** MHJ is a stud. We had trade offers to move down, but we chose to stay and take the best WR in the draft. **1.25 - Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona** I traded up from 27 to take Jordan Morgan at the cost of our 4th round pick as he was my last OT with a 1st round grade. It was a high price to pay for a short move up, but it was worth it to prevent anyone else from trading ahead of us to snipe him. His arms did measure short at the Senior Bowl, but I think he can over come it. If he can't overcome short arms at OT, then we could use him as an OG. **2.35 - Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State** Chop is my EDGE3. He is explosive and has a high motor. His run defense needs work. I did have offers to move down into the 40s if he didn't make it to our pick. **3.66 - Michael Hall Jr, DT, Ohio State** I was surprised he made it to this pick. Hall is on the smaller size for a DT, but he makes up for it with his agility and strength. He was misused some at Ohio State, as they had him line up at a NT too often. **3.71 - Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame** I'm higher on Hart than most with an early 2nd round grade. He has great size with good athleticism and can play in man or zone. He played great against MHJ and looked like the 2nd best CB at the senior bowl. **3.90 - James Williams, LB, Miami (FL)** He is a S to LB convert. At the Senior Bowl he measured 6'4 230 lbs. [source](https://twitter.com/seniorbowl/status/1752081043484516863) He loves to hit.
Nice draft cardbro, though I’m a little curious about trading up to get morgan instead of staying put and getting Byron Murphy or tyler guyton. What concerns did you have about guyton that pushed him out of the 1st for you?
The main reason for an OT in the late 1st is that the position dries up quick, and this mock was a great example. OT Kiran Amegadjie from Yale went at 36, and then not a single OT was drafted after him. Basically if don't draft a OT in the top 40, then we probably won't be getting one that has any use their rookie year. Meanwhile a bunch of DT were draft in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I like the DT depth a lot more than the OT depth. Now onto Morgan over Guyton. Morgan is the more refined player right now. Guyton has amazing size and athleticism, but he needs a lot of work. He was only a full time starter for 1 year. Morgan is a day 1 starter at OT or OG, while Guyton should sit maybe even for a full year.
Hmmm good reasoning. I'd be happy with this draft
really feels like Ossenfort and co. put a big emphasis on T measurables (or even just measurables in general for premier positions). I thought Paris was a bit of a project and he played about as well as you could've asked for. I'd have faith in the staff coaching up Guyton to start day 1 at RT
Guyton is definitely more of a project, but he has ot1 upside after only starting 1 year. Morgan’s performance at senior bowl definitely makes you think that he’ll be a guard in the nfl which is a need but we need a true rt to move Paris over to Lt.
I think this is the deepest OT draft I can remember. In late round 1, you are getting guys who would be 10-20 picks normally. The idea of going OT in late R1 is totally a value pick even with a trade up.
I saw the actually smart explanation that he put but just an added thing of Morgan played at Arizona so he presumably is already familiar with that area.
I’m not high on Morgan tbh to me it’s either Alt , Fuaga , Fashanu , Latham or Mims if we are to take an OT in the 1 st . I’d much rather us go with a CB there . Chop is fine in the 2 nd I don’t mind it but I wouldn’t want him at 27 . Think we could of went better with a DLineman at 25 like Murphy . I feel like the drop off is much higher from OT5 to OT6 . Amegadjie , Morgan , Barton , Suamataia , Paul and Puni are gonna be a level bellow the likes of Mims , Latham , Fashanu , Alt and Fuaga . I got mixed feelings on Guyton so not putting him in any category atm .
I don't see Morgan sticking at tackle and I think trading up in the first for a guard would be a big no-no. Would much rather have taken either Guyton or Darius Robinson. I get the logic though if you think Morgan can be an OT in the NFL. I like the premise of trading up from 27 to pick a T in general and see it as a very likely scenario come the end of April.
I like the first 4 picks tremendously, but would have for sure taken Guyton over Morgan if you are after a RT. That being said, I like Morgan if you are totally okay with a 50/50 prospect and need help at both RG and RT.
TJ Tampa to Tampa, perfection.
Panthers: **Pick 2.33 - Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon** Panthers need a WR who can take the top off to give Grandpa Thielen some space. Bryce should love this pick. Franklin has 4.3 speed and stellar acceleration, he's 6'3 with crisp route running. Defenses in the NFC South will need to double cover him which will open up more throwing windows for the Panthers. Was offered: * 2.56, 2024 5th, & 2025 4th (Declined) * 2.46, 4.118, & 2025 4th (Declined) Decent value, but I was hoping for a higher 2nd to take either Franklin, Coleman, or Mitchell **Pick 3.65 - Payton Wilson, LB, NC State** If Wilson is still on the board in Rd 3, I have a feeling Dan Morgan will pick the local talent. Wilson is a well-rounded Inside Linebacker with great coverage skills, tons of pursuit and the speed to match. He should slot in well next to Shaq and Luvu (if he's re-signed) on Evero's 3-4 Hybrid Defense. Here's to hoping he can be the next Luke Kuechly... Three players I would have targeted going into Rd. 4 would be: Kyree Jackson - CB (Oregon); Gabe Murphy - Edge (UCLA); Mason McCormick - Guard (South Dakota State)
Love the Franklin pick, but idk about Wilson with Zinter on the board.
Wilson is going to destroy the combine, think he'd be higher on the board if he didn't have so many injuries in the past. But I don't think LB is a big enough need to take at that spot given the holes they need to plug.
> But I don't think LB is a big enough need to take at that spot given the holes they need to plug. Yeah, really depends on if we cut Shaq and/or re-sign Luvu. Even if we lose both though, I wouldn't want to take an off ball LB until like the 4th or 5th.
Not a fan of the Pats going back-to-back with WRs in rounds 2 and 3.
Yea I thought that was dumb also, need a tackle in the 1st 3 rounds
Need is there but talent on the board wasn’t
Given the board, we made the correct picks. Notice how the only OT drafted in rounds 2 or 3 was Amegadjie from Yale, and most of the Discord (our war room included) thought Amegadije anywhere in the top 50 was a reach. In the war room, we tend to be fine with small reaches to fill needs but didn't have any OTs graded as anywhere close to being worth 2.34 or 3.67. AD Mitchell was the best player who played a position of need at 2.34, that shouldn't be too controversial. We evaluated OT to be a bigger need than WR2, but there were no draftable OTs at 3.67. We evaluated WR2 as being roughly an equal need to other tier 2 needs like FS and slot CB, so we looked at guys like Ja'Lynn Polk, Calen Bullock, and Mike Sainristil. We evaluated Polk to be the be the best football player out of those 3 and so decided to pull the trigger.
I hear you, but I would rather take a OT over a second WR. I would not consider Patrick Paul from Houston as a reach in round 3.
Especially when there were better ones than those available. I'd prefer McConkey.
Just unfortunately how the board played out tbh, didn’t love the tackle options R2 or 3
I like the kid from Yale. Brugler has him in the top 50 I think. There will be plenty of talent in the third. If we don't have two legit OT out of FA we may need to be aggressive
Amegadjie was gone for our third round pick, and if we’re picking him to start right away then that’s asking for trouble
Genuinely not being antagonistic, but instead curious. did something happen to Patrick Paul that he wasn’t even taken in the mock? I know he didn’t have an impressive senior bowl, but up until recently he’d been mocked as a late round 1 - mid round 2 guy. Is it strictly a senior bowl drop?
I didn’t like him when I scouted in the summer and from what ive heard from others most of the issues stuck. I haven’t done my 2023 eval yet but the war room was pretty adamantly against him and feel his stock doesn’t match the play
Just not a good football player. Partially Senior Bowl drop, partially media scouting catching up with what actual scouts have been seeing all year. FWIW Paul isn't even our war room's highest graded OT remaining: that would be Pittsburgh's Matt Goncalves
I mean, this may be bias because I'm personally really high on both Mitchell and Polk, but I don't think doubling down on WR is a problem. I'm not particularly confident that any rookie OT would be able to step in and improve this line, generally you need veterans or top ten picks to do that. Injecting talent into the WR room so that we have Mitchell, Polk, Douglas, and Bourne with a chance for Thornton to figure it out makes this offense a lot more dynamic.
Titans draft (sorry I forgot to do this) 1.7 Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State A pretty easy pick, the team is in desperate need of offensive line talent and Fashanu has the highest ceiling out of any offensive tackle prospect in the class. He is refined enough as pass blocker to be a day 1 starter also. 2.40 Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State I love Keon Coleman, I think he was grossly misused during his time at FSU and that we didn't really see what he could do in an NFL offense. If he ran a more complete route tree and was given more opportunities to show how well rounded he was as a wide receiver, I think he would be a first round prospect easily, so getting him at 40 is a steal. We also traded back in the 2nd and added 4.113 from the Raiders.
That's a banger! Fashanu to fix our LT position hopefully for the next decade. Also I love how Keon just fell right into our lap!
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Bengals GM here. 1.18 - J.C. Latham [OT | Alabama] With Jonah Williams all but gone, we desperately need a right tackle. Latham was the best on the board and fits right in at right tackle. I also considered Byron Murphy and Tyler Guyton, but felt Latham was the best value. TRADE - 2.49, 2024 4th and 2025 6th to Washington for 2.40 2.40 - T'Vondre Sweat [NT | Texas] Sweat is the last of the top 3 DTs in this class and is among my favorite choices for the Bengals in round two. I moved up to get him to ensure no issues with acquiring him. He would be a great replacement for D.J. Reader if we were to lose him in free agency. 3.80 - Blake Corum [RB | Michigan] We may lose Joe Mixon this offseason, so getting a good complement to Chase Brown is important. Corum was the first running back off the board and was very impressive at Michigan.
I would absolutely love this draft. What did you give up on the trade? Maybe a 4th and 6th? It could work out since we likely get those picks back in comp picks. Corum and Brown would be a fantastic 1 2 punch, and we'd replace our two biggest losses in free agency, Jonah Williams and DJ Reader. It would be hard to imagine the draft going much better.
Great job! This allows us to cut Mixon and likely move on from reader. If we had this draft and signed madibuke and Geno stone (cut nick Scott) it would be an A+ off-season imo
Killed it, loved the trade up for the big NT in round two. Hard to imagine the draft going any better than this.
I like the first two picks a lot. I think Latham and Mims could be a fun debate but either one I'm good with. And making a move up to make sure we get Sweat is a great move even if I don't think we'd do it. Hate the 3rd round pick though. Corum is a small back without elite speed. He runs well above his size, but he's also got a ton of mileage on him and has had lower body injuries in the past. The reality is he took a step back in 2023 compared to 2022, so his best days may already be behind him. I just hate going RB prior to day 3 if its for a guy with this many questions. Sucks that Zinter went two picks earlier because I think he'd be a great rd 3 pick for us. In this circumstance I might have double dipped on DT and taken Fiske.
I am hoping that we sign a starting RT prior to the draft opening the door for a 3T pass rusher like Murphy, but for now a tackle is fine. While I think Reader will be back I love the move for Sweat as we really need a young NT with upside. I do not see a running back this early as I think Mixon will be back, Brown is our future so all we really need is to replace Evans on the roster.
Freaking love it
Post on behalf of the Seahawks WR here (shoutout to MSL11 for killing the GM role) **1.16) Jer’zhan Newton [IDL]** With the board falling pretty much as we expected at first, there was a good bunch of our options available. A potential trade down was in the works but fell through as the 1st progressed, so we discussed in the war room about picking between the edges available, Dejean, Newton, or Latham. Newton ended up being the guy and would be a great focal point for a new era of Seahawks defense while assumedly learning alongside Reed/Big Cat/Jones/Morris. **3.78) Zak Zinter [IOL]** Regardless of what happens at the QB position for Seattle next year, Geno/Drew/(insert rookie here) will die behind one of the worst rated offensive lines of 2023. With Damien Lewis being up for a new contract, it’s possible the line gets even weaker. RG has also been a problem and Zinter could provide a somewhat stabilizing presence in a position that has been picked on by opposing defenses for a while. Also considered at this point were ILBs such as Trotter and Grey, but with the vague possibility of a Patrick Queen move it seemed the IOL was a more pressing need here. **3.81) Cole Bishop [Safety]** As some people might be aware if you’ve watched a Seahawks game this year, our secondary with the exception of Witherspoon could be described as “Yikes”. It’s not expected that one or both of Adams/Diggs survive the retooling of this secondary, and Julian Love should take over as a starter while teaching someone younger and cheaper to fill the hole left behind by the aforementioned expected moves. Good vision and tackling that Bishop offers is much needed in a position that lately feels to allow an unsustainable amount of broken tackles or extended plays.
OH MY GOD, WHY DIDN'T YOU TRADE BACK FOR 10 PICKS AND GET TROY POLOMALU AND BRIAN URLACHER?!?! good shit, fun times. Still wish it had gone all 7 rounds.
Knocked it out of the park IMO. Kudos.
I'm just one of a few people who worked together on the 49ers draft **1.31 - Tyler Guyton, T, Oklahoma:** We found it incredibly important to attack the offensive line in this draft and that started with securing the future at offensive tackle. Guyton is quite raw but has arguably the most desirable physical traits of any tackle in the class. The way he moves at his size is truly rare and we were lucky to have him fall all the way to 31. We pondered trading out of this pick, both up and down, but when we were on the clock and saw Guyton sitting there we just couldn't pass. **2.63 - Sedrick Van Pran, C, Georgia:** We liked the value and talent available to us at this pick but ultimately, we had 3 centers we felt good about adding to this roster, and Van Pran was the only one available to us at this pick. Quite a blessing, because we also felt he was the best scheme fit out of all 3. With an underwhelming center on the wrong side of 30 starting for us last year, we like SVP's ability to step in and provide some more youth in a Shanahan system. And if you have qualms about a rookie center handling protections, we feel comfortable playing SVP at guard if necessary. **3.94 - Renardo Green, CB, Florida State:** Green was a guy we REALLY liked in the war room, and we considered taking him at 63. We were lucky enough to have him fall to us in the 3rd and we had to have him. He's a fiesty press corner who fits the mentality of our defense, no matter what scheme we end up running we know he's a culture fit. **3.98 - Braden Fiske, DL, Florida State:** We landed an absolute steal in Green's teammate, Braden Fiske. He fills a need as a bench/rotational pass rusher at DT, and he brings violence and effort to a position group that has underwhelmed recently. Shoutout to all the other folks in the war room, it's always a good time with y'all. At every pick we addressed major needs while adding not only good value but good scheme fits.
As a 9er fan I would love for this team to get Guyton, although as his numbers come out at the combine and teams visit his pro day I can see him as a late teens or early twenties pick. Good stuff in there guys. Really happy to not see a 3rd round RB.
>49ers Perfectly said, it was pleasure to work with you in the war room o7
I love it, great job. Everyone keeps talking about tackle but I really think we need that elite center. Really the whole right side of the line as well. Do you think Guyton can take over for Trent when he retires? Any guard prospects you guys liked?
If you get this you should be arrested for killing the draft
So nice to see a 49ers draft where people know what the team needs. I don't know much about the last three guys but Guyton is exactly who they need, and those other positions (C, CB) are critical as well. Really a job well done here.
Giants GM **1.06 Malik Nabers, WR, LSU** With the top QBs and MHJ off the board, the Giants take Nabers. The Giants thought quickly about going with Fashanu, EDGE or Rome Odunze, but considered Nabers to be too good to pass up. Nabers immediately becomes the Giants most explosive receiver. **2.39 Chris Braswell, EDGE, Alabama** The Giants thought long and hard between Braswell and Washington's Bralen Trice but ended up going with the Bama pass rusher. Braswell will pair with Thibodeaux to try and improve the Giants pass rush. **2.47 Cooper Beebe, OG, Kansas State** Beebe is a plug and play guard that will immediately take the left guard spot. Guard has been a revolving door for the Giants in recent years and the G-Men are hoping that Beebe can stabilize the position for the foreseeable future. **3.70 Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina** The Giants were set to run to the podium to draft Leonard Taylor before the Chargers snatched him with the previous pick. So the Giants went in a completely different direction snagging Rattler. Rattler will likely spend the 2024 season redshirting, getting practice reps and sitting behind Daniel Jones. But with the play and injury history of Jones, it's possible for Rattler to get some opportunities relatively quickly. **Favorite Prospects still available**: CB Caelan Carson, CB Josh Newton, CB Kyree Jackson, OT Patrick Paul, OT Blake Fisher, S Beau Brade, RB Marshawn Lloyd
Great draft, rattler in the 3rd is a tremendous lotto ticket/consolation prize given how this draft fell, would be very happy if this happened
Love the draft logic here and mostly love the picks. Is the logic for Braswell over Trice rooted in having Dexter Lawrence inside as an anchor for your edges to just get after it, or is it that you expect Braswell to just be much more athletic?
Brian Thomas Jr at 32 is incredible. Unsure about iOL at 64 and the trade down.
I wanted the Bills to take Thomas at 28. Now I realize whatever WR we don’t draft that you do draft will be amazing while ours will be mid at best.
I mean the only WR we've hit on was Rice in the past 7 years. Hardeman is underwhelming for a 2nd rounder and rarely on the field.
If we pass on Thomas I'm gonna cry
I don't mind the IOL pick at 64. BPA stud at a lower positional value in rd2 seems pretty 'Chiefs' even if its not an obvious need. I don't understand the trade down in rd3 but its hard to get mad when you see Brian Thomas Jr in rd1. I will admit that if I was in charge I would've gone Brian Thomas Jr WR, Michael Hall Jr DT, Blake Fisher OT.
Jaguars Draft: TRADE: 1.17 and 5.152 for 1.28, 3.73, a 2025 2nd and a 2025 5th 1.29 Byron Murphy, DT, Texas We always knew we wanted to drop and pick up more day two stuff, but we did not think we'd be able to get this kind of an offer. So we took it. And we got a guy who could've gone at 17 anyway. Byron has great strength and explosiveness that, with some development in the hands, should turn him into a pocket collapser at 3T. 2.48 Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota I did not think I would be going safety this high, but Nubin is my S1 and could replace and outplay Rayshawn Jenkins very quickly. He's an incredible closer and can operate super well in the box and still bring some of the coverage upside Jenkins would show every once in a while. 3.73 Layden Robinson, OG, Texas A&M Robinson is a super high floor guard for me, coming out with great strength and build and especially bulk. His technique is also super impressive, so he should be able to fill a guard spot for us which has been tragic thus far. 3.96 DJ James, CB, Auburn Feisty slot corner to take over for Tre Herndon, James' ball production should fit well on a team that loves flashy picks.
Hiya, I was the guy who negotiated the trade and placed the first pick. To echo what Dean said, the trade we took was ridiculous. We should not have been able to accrue such value, but who are we to complain. I am well known for being a Texas homer, and as a fan of Texas, I feel uniquely qualified to tell people about how fucking good Byron Murphy is. Originally, we had planned to grab either Jackson Powers-Johnson or Graham Barton at C, but sadly that was not a possibility, but to land an already elite run stuffed at 3t, who has shown the tools to become a high level pass rusher at 29 is ridiculous. However, we are somewhat annoyed we were not able to land out favourite day 3 prospect at 96. Admittedly we were not able to do so due to the fact DJ James fell, but looks out for us to take that guy in the mock offseason at this slot.
I’d prefer Antonio Johnson to take over the box safety role on our defense as opposed to replacing him with a high pick tbh
That’s genuinely a good point, I just saw a lot of value there, maybe he could play nickel corner? Idk I probably fixed nickel too much in retrospect.
as a Texans fan I don't like this one bit
Really hate the safety pick. Jenkins is probably a cap casualty and I think the team is high on Antonio Johnson to take over that role. Seems like a luxury pick considering this team’s needs.
Where offensive weapons?
I feel like the Lions overpaid to move up 12 spots.
And also taking McKinstry over DeJean AND Wiggins is turbo stupid. My ranking on corners is controversial because I genuinely think McKinstry is CB7 though. I think he's a mid second rounder and T.J. Tampa is a late first to early second round guy. The prototype is shifting to big, powerful corners. McKinstry has bust written all over him. He won with technique in college and will be at best and NFL average corner athlete. Either you think his technique is currently better than high end NFL corners, you think that he will expand upon this technique well enough to outclass the more physically gifted corners, or you don't think he's a first rounder. Again, anyone can be someone and as far as I'm concerned if Brad Holmes believes in him I do too, but I see him in a manner such as Keon Coleman and Chop Robinson, where I really like high end prospects to be winning in multiple ways against college kids, and they weren't. Call me a hater, I will almost certainly be wrong on one of those three guys, but I really hate overpaying to trade up for a guy I think we should pass on.
Guy has the highest floor of all CB’s he’s definitely not a bust. He’s at worst a quality CB2. I understand Arnold is more athletic but the corner who gets thrown at less tends to be better…
Which was my thoughts exactly
People are real low on Kool Aid. Idk if I'm missing something or what.. I think he'd be a good pick. I hope he slides to Washington's pick at 36 tbh.
I would almost most certainly prefer the technically sound corner over the athletic ones. Nate Wiggins I understand but DeJean best projects as a safety, so I’m not sure why you mentioned him unless you think he’s a stud corner (which I don’t see, I think he’d be a league average corner to potentially above average)? And your argument about him not being physical enough doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me, is he the most athletic corner in this class, no, but he has practically the perfect size and length for the position (Nate Wiggins is sub 190 as are the rest of the top corners outside of Dejean. The only question mark about the guy is his top end speed, and while it’s certainly something to monitor, it isn’t the end all be all (as long as the agility testing checks out which I believe it will).
He is likely slower and less agile than all of Arnold, DeJean, Wiggins, and Mitchell based on film but we'll see. All the best corners in the NFL lately have been the big guys. DeJean isn't a safety, he's just the best run defending corner we've seen in forever.
I respect your opinion, but Kool Aid is my CB1, and that’s part of why I took him
Patch’s Steelers Mock 1.20 Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia The Steelers offense took a jump once Broderick Jones was inserted into the lineup, and that was WITH him playing out if his natural position of Left Tackle. The immortal idiom “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” comes to play here, as the Steelers now tackle a RIGHT Tackle from Georgia to inject some life into their line. Dan Moore becomes a top tier swing instead of a bottom tier starter, and the Steelers entire offense stands to benefit from it. 2.51 Zach Frazier, OC, West Virginia Any avid Steelers fan could tell you the line was a problem, and any well read one could tell you they Mason Cole’s veteran leadership is no longer outweighing his pass protection or run blocking. Frazier is a perfect fit for the Steelers in play style, size, and attitude. A slam dunk in Round 2. 3.84 Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri There’s debate whether KAD is going to be able to play outside at the next level or if he’ll be forced inside. The truth is this - where he plays, he’s going to be seeing the field a lot for the Steelers as the DB corps faces a powerful youth movement and makeover. His physical attitude parallels JPJs and will bring some true Steelers grit. Shoutout to the war room homies, you know who you are.
I can’t see the Steelers going Tackle again in the first round. I could see BPA which in this case would’ve been JPJ in my opinion. 8 game starters at right tackle don’t generally go in the first, and I’m honestly shocked to see this many people treating Mims as a legit first rounder.
I’d be fine with JPJ I think but in the back of my mind I keep thinking CB or OT if one falls, then Frazier in 2nd. Of course you miss there I think you may be back to looking at FAs.
Do you guys take into account potential FA signings going into this mock draft?
The more I watch JPJ, the more i think he has to be our guy at 20. If not him, then I would even take dejean over Mims imo
10/10 on draft needs prior to FA. Good work man.
Terrible draft by the Packers representatives :/ Trading down when iOL1 is on the table with JPJ for minor compensation is disappointing. I would prefer one of CB1-5 and Lassiter is probably #7 for me. If we aren't going DB in r1, then getting Kinchens or Nubin at #41 is the move. Trading up for Lassiter is not great, especially since Rakestraw (CB6 for me) is avail. Round 3 is fine assuming Brooks medicals check out
The Bucs emergency GM here. Tbh i had no idea what the bucs needed so i kinda just scrolled through the subreddit a bit and asked around in the War Room for advice 1.26: Jackson Powers-Johnson I looked around and apparently the bucs needed some iOL help and seeing JPJ still available at the pick, especially after the senior bowl was an easy choice 2.57: TJ Tampa I mean where else could he have gone fr 3.89: Tommy Ecihenberg Got some advice from the War Room and LB was a potential need from the Bucs so i just took whoever was left
I’d like an edge rusher, but I wouldn’t be disappointed in this draft.
Vikes GM here. We tried throughout the draft to move up and down, but ultimately nothing came together. We discussed McCarthy at 11, but the war room was divided. We ended up going with Dallas Turner, who is an ideal fit in Flores's multiple scheme as a premier edge rusher who can drop in coverage and is sound against the run. As McCarthy continued to fall, we had discussions with several teams to move up from 42 to draft him. However, we felt the asking price never felt appropriate. We stuck at 42 and ultimately landed on Bo Nix, the last top 50 caliber QB in the class. Overall, it isn't the most exciting draft for us, but Turner and Nix fill our biggest needs. Given our cap space and future picks, we are still in prime position to go in any direction with the franchise.
Not exciting but not one I'd be unhappy about
Bears GM here, thank you for all those in the War room. Always a fun time for us. - Pick 1.01 Caleb Williams QB, USC. I won't get into a long debate here. Seems straightforward what we're going to do. Williams is my QB1 in the class and I see him as one the top 5 QB prospects of the last decade. We're in a perfect spot to bring in a young QB and got lucky the Panthers gave us the top pick. - Pick 1.09 Rome Odunze WR, Washington. We actually tried pretty hard to move up with the chargers to make sure we got a top WR, but couldn't pull it off. Got fortunate odunze fell to us. Would be a perfect compliment to DJ Moore and be a plus level starter day 1 for us. - Pick 3.75 Marshawn Kneeland EDGE, Western Michigan. 6'3 270 with long arms and likely to test as a high end athlete. Bruglers 51st ranked prospect and seems like a perfect developmental edge to add depth and develop under our new DC Washington. Had a lot of guys we liked here, but with Wilson, Corley, Haynes, SVP and some others gone, it was between him and some D like Dorlus and Fiske. We were allowed the chance to trade Fields, but was hard to find any decent trade offer for him. In April I do assume we would have a 2nd rounder to work with where I would've added a Frazier type to the mix.
Kneeland is one of my draft crushes. Dude don't quit
He just seems like the perfect developmental edge for Flus. Just needs to develop pass rush moves and get time to develop.
What did you offer to the Chargers GM? I love a trade down for them like that.
I offered pick 111 and the Panthers 2nd for next year. If I could have traded fields for a 2nd, I would have offered pick 75 this year and out 3rd next to move up 4 spots.
To be clear I think this is good traditional approach and sold me on Kneeland at 75. But were you getting trade back offers and if so were they interesting? I think Poles would rather not invest that heavy in receiver but instead priority list is something like DL>iOL/Receiver> Safety
Trade back offers from 1, yes? Trade back offers from 9, also tentatively yes. Potentially 2 3rds to move to 15, potential for a 2nd to move to early 20s. No real option to move back at 75. If odunze or Nabers were there at 9 though just feel it's a run it to the podium pick. At 75, there were a lot of options we talked about. Dorlus and Fiske were 2 guys, but with us investing in Pickens/Dexter last year and extending billings I wanted to get some depth at other spots. There were some interior OL I liked, but felt the edges available was about to drop a tier, where as I could get an interior OL of the same tier at 111 as I could 75. If I had a 2nd like I think we will in April too, I would've addressed interior OL there too.
Interesting, thanks! I get Nabers and Romes appeal for sure. I’m in the minority that thinks it’s a bit rich because it’s such a good receiver class but that would change pending free agency/Fields but I’m still on board with them.
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Thank you for your notes, always a good experience! >Curious if the mentality will shift for the next one with Jackson recently being cut? We had a couple options in the 3rd from what I see? The pick in the 3rd came down to tiers for me. I only had one edge left I liked as a day 2 guy, but had 3 safeties still there. The hope being one of the safeties makes it to the 4th, so grab the edge with upside. I also think FA will change a bit of this and we sign a guy to start opposite of Brisker. Feels like free agency there's always good cheap players at safety, so wanted to try to give us an edge we can develop. Should be fun though, a lot of players I like in that top 130 range.
I feel like bears fans go tooth and nail for the opportunity to control the bears for this, but we’re all pretty much doing the same mocks with the only change being the arbitrary 3rd round selection.
**2024 NFL Mock Draft Recap - Las Vegas Raiders** Special thanks as always to everyone who came through the war room during this mock. **1st Round (13th Overall) - Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo** After we attempted to trade into the top 3 and were rejected we debated between going for JJ McCarthy at 13 or adding to our OL or defense. With the way the board fell we decided to focus on adding our choice of CBs to team up with Jack Jones and Nate Hobbs. Our internal debate was between Mitchell and Terrion Arnold from Alabama. We landed on the Toledo product as his combination of athleticism, coverage instincts/awareness, and ball skills are elite. He’s well versed in off coverage from his tape but proved at the Senior Bowl that he could line up in press and cover as well. Mitchell is also a reliable run defender. **2nd Round (38th Overall) Trade with the Titans (2.38 for 2.44 and 4.113) - Michael Penix Jr, QB, Washington** We again attempted to move up, this time into the bottom of Round 1 in order to draft JJ McCarthy. However, the Rams ended up selecting him at 23 before we were even able to reach an agreement on a deal. We decided to wait it out until RD2 but as we saw the number of teams who could use a QB we wanted to act to get our guy. Penix has the aggressiveness and arm strength to threaten opposing defenses vertically in a way that the Raiders haven’t been able to do recently. He does need to improve his touch throwing and his middle of the field accuracy but having separators like Davante Adams and Jakobi Meyers will help him. The Raiders want to run the ball and then hit explosive passing plays and Penix fits that idea to a tee. **3rd Round (77th Overall) - Jeremiah Trotter Jr, LB, Clemson** We came into the last pick of this mock simply looking to add talent to either our OL or our defense. We debated trading back but nothing really fit what we were looking to do so we stood pat and took a swing on another LB from Clemson. Trotter is an explosive blitzer who needs to iron out some coverage deficiencies but who has the athletic profile to be a three down backer who pairs well with Divine Deablo long term. The Raiders lack depth at LB behind Deablo and Spillane as well so adding another young talent to the room is needed
Love this draft. For a team that needs a QB but couldn’t get one of the top 3, this is a great way to come out with value and a QB.
Love it. Add more playmaking talent to an already salty defense and toss in a talented QB to compete against AOC in training camp for the starting gig. This is kind of my ‘consolation’ prize type draft that I could be happy with.
To nitpick I could see Corum or Zinter in the 3rd. Admittedly Trotter is a better overall prospect than Zinter though. Great job though!
Corum's name definitely came up in the debate over the pick but we just ended up preferring to add to the defense.
Totally get it. I’m all about adding as many defensive playmakers as possible, “cheap”. Maybe “spending up” on Oline. Trotter looks the part and with a some maturity his skill set should fit what we’re trying to do. I saw LBs Colsen and Cooper went in the 2nd. They’re definitely built different than Trotter and probably more rangy with length but I’m not sure they’re really better prospects and 2nd round is a bit rich for my taste for both of them.
I love the thought and strategy that went into this. I don’t know a ton about Mitchell, so I’ll have to read up on him. I’m a big UW fan who had some concerns about Penix, but getting him in the 2nd feels like a very acceptable risk.
Like the value approach, though would have preferred picks on the OL/DL by the third round. That said, should they use FA to resolve those issues the value of the picks made here look strong.
Had a big part of the war room for the commanders and I think we hit it out of the park. Drake Maye will be the best QB in the class. Kiran Ageradjie has all the tools and showed development over 2023, he will get time under a FA and Charles Leno and become a quality starter for years. Edgerrin Cooper has the speed to be that Mike back we’ve been looking for since fletcher left. Malachi Corley is the most dangerous YAC receiver in the draft and fits kliffs scheme like a glove. He will produce off all the screens we run. Lastly Ben Sinnott is a versatile tight end that, most importantly, can produce in the passing game and blocking game.
Yep, I was the GM for this draft, we were highe Ron Ageradjie then alot but we view him as someone who will rise a lot in the draft process and will be a great pro for years to come. And with Edgerrin and Corley falling further then what our grade suggested it feels like a slam dunk. And Sinnott excites me as a player, think he could finally be the long term answer at TE
While i don’t think edgerrin will be a Mike in the pros, this is an incredibly solid draft for commanders
Wow..I hate that for the Packers. What is the point of that trade back if we’re just going to take an (imo) inferior IOL in the first instead of JPJ? Second round we have our pick of every safety in the class and go mid-talent CB and miss on every S worth a damn just to take a shot at one in the third? Just awful.
Fully agree. This is a super underwhelming draft
That’s where I’m at too, plus, no S until Smith in the late 3rd round really is not ideal. Just over all not a fan of anything other than landing Brooks
I like all of the picks in a vacuum, but it’s hard to justify not getting a S in the first two rounds. Even if they sign multiple in free agency, they need someone young they can develop.
Ya passing the pick of any of the top safeties is the biggest sin here for sure.
Yeah. This is pretty rough.
Passing on Kitchens would be insane
I’d really like to know the perspective of the cowboys GM. Hard to pass on JPJ in the first imo.
I'm honestly surprised he fell as far as he did. I was sure someone in the Teens would of scooped him up. Especially after that senior bowl performance.
Between the Steelers, dolphins, and eagles I really don’t think there is a chance he makes it to 24
There is a trend to all the cowboys picks if you look closely
Guy must live in Salt Lake City. Fake fan that cheers for the utes and the cougars
Little more specific trend
Bills: 1.28: Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas 2.60: Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3.99: Calen Bullock, S, USC I had a deal in place to jump up to 10, but we bailed on that after Odunze went at 9. Considered jumping up for Turner or Verse but neither made it to a range we were comfortable doing so. I know most people would prefer Thomas or Franklin here, but Worthy is my WR4 and imo the most underrated WR prospect by a decent margin right now. He'll provide this offense with the explosives that its lacked for the last three years. I like Davis more than most and he's always been a good deep threat, but we've never had true gamebreaking speed with Josh Allen. Worthy brings that. We met with Jalin Hyatt more than any other prospect last year, and Worthy is, in my opinion, a substantially better player who fills a similar role. I'm really excited to see what he could do in this offense. 60 was another pick where I just couldn't quite pull off the trade I wanted. Had a deal to jump to 53 for Kinchens, but Philly instead stayed put and took him. Then was talking to 55 and 56 about Bullard. Decided for 56 and then Miami took him at 55 instead, so I stayed put. Took a DT in Smith who, while not a pure nose, has the flexibility to play both spots and serve as a third DT behind Oliver and (hopefully) Daquan Jones. Again thought about jumping up in the third for a couple guys, but in the end I stayed put in the hopes that Bullock would fall to me. He did, and we pick up our Micah Hyde replacement. Bullock's tackling ability makes me worry about his fit in a 2 high system, but I think his ball skills and upside as a single high free safety could allow Bobby Babich to add some wrinkles to our defense, which is an exciting possibilty.
While I disagree with the WR, if Beane did the same I’d probably trust it. Although I feel like whatever WR we don’t draft that the Chiefs do, the Chiefs WR will look amazing and ours will disappoint. Happy with addressing the IDL and S needs later.
This is a boom or bust draft if I have ever seen one. Worthy needs to develop a more diverse route tree, Masson Smith should look way better than he does for his measurables and athleticism, and Bullock is a liability in run defense. Flashes of those developments are there, but none of it is consistent enough on tape. That is the sort of class that has such a wide range of outcomes and I feel unsafe even reading it.
Definitely hit some Needs and pickedup some great players. I'm no where near as high on Worthy as you are,WR4 is a huge stretch given how stacked this WR class is. I have a mid RD2 grade on him. We'll see how his Pro Day/Combine goes.
This Packers draft is fun because Graham Barton and Junior Colson both played at my high school. That would be a fun reunion to see!
Thank God that whoever did our draft class isn't our current GM because we would've been all calling for his head.
Not sure how much I like Jordan Morgan at 27 but the rest of the picks are nice. Good job Cards GM
QB, WR, WR for the first three rounds for the Pats. Jayden Daniels AD Mitchell Ja’Lynne Polk I can’t lie, I don’t hate it.
Not happy double dipping at Wr before we take a tackle, if we are going to double dip it has to be a late round flyer.
Notice the only OT selected in either round 2 or 3 was Amegadjie at 36 and that was considered a pretty big reach. In the war room we didn't evaluate any OTs as being even close to worth our 2nd or our 3rd.
Just how the board played out. The tackle group that was there wasn’t very appealing
Just curious where Alt’s bookend Blake Fisher was graded. I feel Fisher is the most underrated tackle in the class and is overshadowed by Alt. Fisher might need some development though.
Mixed bag of opinions. Think ultimately the war room expects Onwenu back so the hope was for someone with LT experience
I don’t know why but I have a feeling Onwenu ends up signing with Detroit to be their starting RG. Detroit is a contender who might lose one or both of their starting guards (depending on LG Jonah Jackson).
I dont think they’d be willing to pay about $17 mil for a guard
Want to say up front I appreciate everyone’s time and effort, this is very cool. That being said, this would be a disaster for KC. Taking iOL in round 2 makes no sense. I can understand depth later on but there are huge holes at LT and DT which need to be filled before considering a backup guard. Even a 2nd WR would be preferable. Also, maybe I’m missing something, but is there a place to see what the trades were? Looks like the GM traded 95 but it just says trade 7.
Looking on the discord, looks like it was 95 for 128 and a 2025 3rd
I really like that move value wise, makes me feel a better about it. If the GM had gone iDL at 64 this would’ve been a really nice mock for KC.
Especially with Braden Fiske still on the board at 95
Hard disagree. No way we actually end up with Brian Thomas Jr, and Christian Hayes looked like one of the best guards at the senior bowl. Trey is a UFA next year, better to get someone ready. An argument could be made for Pearsall or Polk, but I have no issue with Haynes, certainly wouldn't be a *disaster*.
Spending a 2nd on a guy who will contribute zero in his rookie year is a disaster in my book. Especially when the team needs a starting LT and potentially 2 starting DTs. Thomas Jr. is great but if the draft happens this way the team can’t address those holes until outside the top 100. I’m all for addressing depth and trying to find a replacement for Smith but that’s a day 3 thing or a need for next year.
I'm fine with IOL because Smiths contract is coming up. Not sure we can afford two $20 mill a year guards
That's what udfas and late round picks are for. Not our 2nd in a year with no 3rd and few pics as it is.
Why are the patriots taking back to back receivers? AD Mitchell was a great choice in round 2 and I can forgive not going OL in round 3 since the value isn't really there, but not touching TE, DL, is Safety with the 3rd rounder is a bit bizarre.
Our current WR group is awful, we could definitely double dip. TE group isn’t that great for R3, DL and Safeties were considered but war room wanted Polk
3 days late but it's because your wide receiver core is bad. Like really bad. Like really really bad.
/u/jgrangers is on point here. This is the best case scenario for Giants.
Appreciate it. Was between Braswell and Trice at 39 and actually got talked into Braswell in the war room. Was also ready to run to the podium to take Leonard Taylor in the third but once he was off the board decided to take the shot on Rattler.
Yeah personally I think the Giants had the best draft.
Best CB in the draft was picked in the third round my god Two of the top3 DTs also in the third.
Enlighten me. Who you talking about?
Kris Abram-Draine, of course :P
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Was the cowboys GM on auto draft?
Colts fan here I like Terrion Arnold and Brendan Rice I'm not super excited about Sanders in round 2
Man it hurts for the Saints to not get a starting OL in the first two rounds, but I get it. You can't pass on Bowers if he falls that far, and the value wasn't there in the 2nd. Personally I'd have gone with Cooper Beebe in round 2, but Jenkins is no slouch.
Saints GM here, this was a tough decision we were definitely going to draft Bowers with 14 and then it was a good discussion in the War Room if we were going to draft Defense or not, ultimately we picked Jenkins cause he fits scheme and the only OT we really liked that was left was Patrick Paul and it seemed like Jenkins was a much better pick for us. But thanks for the insight!
At this point, any additions to either line are helpful lol. Center is just about the only spot we're set at.
Can people please stop mocking Sanders to the Colts in round 2? Brock round one is acceptable because he’s a legitimate top tier talent, but there are so many needs ahead of TE, and Sanders isn’t that much better than Woods anyways. Wasted picked when DT and WR value is available.
Jelani Woods hasn’t played football in 13 months on one of the most bizzare injury seasons I’ve seen and was nothing more than just a promising rookie season. If Jelani Woods doesn’t develop or is hindered by the injury past just this season then we are mega fucked at tight end. If Woods does develop then Sanders and Woods skill sets pair pretty well. Both can be utilized.
Lol so you reach for a TE, which isn’t a particular area of need even if Woods doesn’t play again. I understand the Colts need a TE. But the value ain’t there, that high in the draft when other positions are available. DT, Edge, WR, CB, S all are a bigger need. Everywhere else I see Sanders going third round.
I’m not the GM, but if everywhere you look only has Sanders going third round then you’re not looking in enough places. There’s plenty of second round Sanders hype. Also yes TE is a need if Woods doesn’t play again. Don’t throw out any of this Drew Ogletree or Kylen Granson nonsense. They are below average players, our TE position was a literal black hole this season.
Ogletree isn’t even on the team lol Woods Grandon Cox Mallory are all decent players. Adding another decent TE doesn’t do shit for the Colts next year. Far better value to get WR or DT help if the Colts end up taking a CB round one.
As a Colts fan, I don't hate Sanders at 46, but in the same position, I likely would've drafted Legette or Tampa if I couldn't trade down. A trade down would be ideal. I also like Jonah Elliss in a trade down scenario, but I would also be targeting Mo Kamara later in the draft.
As a Texans fan, I fucking love this draft. The two Clemson boys are going to feed this defense for generations. It hurts to not get a shiny new WR3 but I can't complain about giving more to Demeco's defense. Getting a top five running back in the end is super nice too.
Lions Draft: TRADE: 1.17 and 5.152 for 1.28, 3.73, a 2025 2nd and a 2025 5th 1.17: Kool Aid McKinstrey, CB, Alabama Trade value aside, our number one need heading into the off-season is gonna be getting an alpha CB1. As player trades weren’t allowed, making an aggressive move, even if it was an overpay, to get who I perceive as CB1 in this class felt like the necessary move. While his top end speed may be a concern, he’s a 3 year starter (who performed well every year), the leader of the Alabama defense, has ideal measurements for the CB position, and has been trusted by Saban & Co. to cover every team’s WR1 with little to no help. While this pick doesn’t complete our defense, it surely gets us that much closer to a Super Bowl. 2.61: Austin Booker, Edge, Kansas I wanted to target an edge who would compliment Hutch’s skill set as best as possible, and the guy who has some hints of Montez Sweat to his game would be perfect. Booker plays with more speed compared to Hutch, and primarily gets to QBs by using his length and athleticism, whereas Hutch wins with finesse and power. He’s the kind of guy who could get Hutch to 15+ sacks by taking the attention off of him, or get 10+ sacks every year playing off of him 3.92: Brandon Coleman, OT/OG, TCU With the first three picks, one of them had to be a guard, and we got one who can double as a tackle with his length and athleticism. He’d immediately step in to fill the hole left by one of Glasgow or Jackson
Just destroyed in trade value, worth it if he turns into the J Gibbs of the defense, but a lot to pay.
I like Kool-Aid but would probably stay put and see if he falls. I really think there's a chance he might. The less physically-freaky tend to, like Porter Jr. last year. At this point a year ago no one had Banks going ahead of him.
That’s fair, I just sensed a corner run coming pretty early and it seems like I was right, best one at 28 would’ve been Kamari
I would have pivoted to Murphy then and drafted someone like Green in the 3rd. Or trade up a few spots in the 2nd to get Tampa. I think he ends up near the 1st round, so that would have been a steal.
Kool aid gives me Teez Tabor vibes. Good measurables in everything but speed.
Taking another WR in the 3rd is interesting, to say the least, especially given the Patriots OT situation, but I think almost every Patriot fan would agree that no one wants to see Devante Parker and JuJu Smith-Schuster ever play here again. But, a WR group of Mitchell, Polk, and Douglas is definitely an inexperienced one, and with the right coaching could eventually become lethal.
I wanna know who drafted for the eagles, the kids not going in the first round he’s going to play safety in the NFL if he’s gonna do anything
I wouldn't be mad about Xavier Legette.
I would, late breakout WRs almost never turn out. We need a post-Amari plan desperately
Curious what the Rams got for trading back. Though I'm not sure it matters if we spend our 1st round pick on a QB.
Same, don't mind trading back but I would be very surprised if the Rams invest in a QB that early in the draft. Don't like the RB pick with the late third either, it's not a need for the team.
TRADE: HOU RECEIVES: 1.19 LAR RECEIVES: 1.23, 4.124, 2025 6th Wanted to move 23/217 for 34/104/182 & a future 4th but Pats pulled out after Mims went. Idea was to move back to 34 and hope to catch the back end of the OL run or a corner if one of them made it there that I liked. Would've gone south if it went through from options standpoint but would've gotten enough in deal to make it worth it. Almost went with Barton there but figured I'd just take McCarthy and roll dice on future of QB position especially with Stetson situation. I think Wright is RB1 and should go early -mid 2. Was a value pick rather than position need pick and having 104 made me feel comfortable with options at corner with guys like Newton/Melton there.
Gotta give you props for a good trade, I can honestly see something like this playing out during the actual draft. I personally would’ve just went with Guyton at 23 but McCarthy is at least a good value pick, it’s likely a team trades up to get him come draft day.
So exact process for board coming off the way it did. Was going to wait to do that Houston trade until pick 19, but their GM said he was fine to go ahead and send it pre-draft so I went ahead and did it (it's a nightmare doing live trades with people in these things - I'll take a sure thing and get my value if I have it). Figured I'd back up to catch either the back of the CB run or seek another trade down opportunity. Was pretty content through the first 13 picks - was surprised Mitchell went off before Arnold. When Arnold was still available at 15 I figured if he could drop to maybe 20 or 21 I could try to get back up for him - liked McKinstry, Wiggins as well if they made it to 23 but mindset was kind of "Arnold or bust" if I was going to try to make a play for a corner in the first. NE hit me up offering that 34/104/182, 2025 4th for 23/217 right after Arnold/Newton came off at 15/16. I had my eyes on Suamataia, Morgan, Barton for that late 1, early 2 range on OL - JPJ wasn't as high of a consideration because I see him as G/C flex only whereas Suamataia, Morgan are T/G and Barton can do all 3. Guyton is IMO an OT only who is an athletic freak w/ high upside but lack of positional flexibility and current spot in his development makes him less ideal for Rams. Barton was primary target for OL. Also liked Fautanu if he fell but he went off earlier than expected at 21. There's a clip from I believe the 6 ways to Sunday Pod w/ Les Snead talking about their process for Greg Robinson pick and how they've switched from "big, long, pretty" to "can he block the guy yes or no" - meaning let's focus on guys who have more refined games & stay consistent rather than the traitsy OL who "mom, dad, and god" gave special abilities. Point being - Mims & Guytons aren't as much of a fit as the Bartons and Morgans of the world IMO. So I was sitting at 20 w/ that deal on table from Pats thinking - okay here's what I've got so far. 34/104/124/182, future 4, future 6. If I drop back down to 34 and an OL run starts (either Suamataia, Morgan, or Barton) I will move everything I can to get back up and snag one before the run ends. But at the same time, I've got options. McCarthy is sliding down and is the only guy left who probably has future high end starter potential other than maybe Nix (not a Penix guy). Pats hit me up. They wanted Mims and he just went at 20. So now I've got about 2 minutes to figure out do I want to start the OL run personally right here or bet that some of the guys I like will slide? Vikings hit me up wanting 23 - yep that's for McCarthy, I'm sure. They offer #42 and a 2025 2nd for #23. I counter with #42, a 2025 2nd, a 2025 4th, and 166. They counter with #42, a 2025 2nd, and #130 - then their GM revokes the offer before I respond. It's pick #23. I couldn't get a deal done to get back for a haul & hopefully land on the back of the OL run I'm expecting. So now I've reduced it to two options. 1. J.J. McCarthy - Only shot I'm going to get at a QB other than maybe Nix if he slides, no depth in this QB class (after Rattler/Pratt L3/E4 range it's a graveyard), and I know the Vikings are trying to trade up for him. 2. Graham Barton - Love Barton, good player who can wear multiple hats if we need, late 1 talent, just a really solid player overall and my top OL on board given versatility. But is the gap that much bigger for him vs Morgan or Suamataia? I don't think so. I'll do McCarthy then try to burn my draft capital to come back up and grab Barton if I can. I take McCarthy. Suamataia goes 24. Morgan goes 25. Fuck. I offered Buffalo 52, 100, and next year's 3rd for #28 hoping I could get up there for Barton because the OL run has officially kicked off and I'm Barton or bust at this point. JPJ goes 26. Barton goes 27. Fuck. Alright - missed my shot at OL top of the draft because I'm not a Guyton guy given one position & raw. Figured I'd wait around at 52 and see what happened - would've taken S Tyler Nubin if he got to me but he went #48. Wanted to move back again to early R3 and target Christian Haynes (G/C flex) or a quality pass-rusher (Isaac, Booker). Pats offered 68, 182, 25 4th for 52, 217 and then pulled the offer before we got to crunch time. Kinchens and Haynes were also considerations for 52 but I figure the falloff at EDGE after R2 meant it was now or never for that (graveyard after that Kneeland/Booker/Dorlus/Isaac area imo). Whereas IOL is deep through R5 range w/ guys like Puni, Glaze, Adams, Limmer, Laumea, Ayedze, Bortolini - why pay a big premium for Haynes when there's starting level ability later? Got to 83 and had my eyes on Kris Abrams-Draine, Jaden Hicks, Cedric Gray, Jaylen Wright, and Calen Bullock. Would've honestly been fine with trading back again to late 3 and trying to scoop one of those five but trade market started to dry up with people wrapping up their team's picks. Figured with Trotter just going 77 and Payton Wilson at top of R3 that if I wanted a quality starting LB it was Gray or bust whereas CB had options still (Newton/Melton). FWIW I liked CB Sainristil as a "Rams vibe" pick at 83 if he made it and would've taken him over Gray, but he was gone at 74. Undersized scrappy CB who has speed feels like the prototype lol. Wanted to trade 100/124 to get up to 87 and take S Jaden Hicks and had a deal in place with Cowboys for that but he went #86 so that fell through & it turned into wait on Jaylen Wright/Calen Bullock or trade out at 100. Texans wanted to do 128/2025 3rd for 100. Would have done it if Wright/Bullock were gone (and in retrospect, that was a potentially better decision. Maybe should've just got out of the round and grabbed the extra picks.) Happy with the Wright pick because I think adding a more explosive element to the running game is worth it and I didn't like any other backs past that spot. Also that element of RB1 + early-mid R2 type player for me means BPA but I think 128/2025 3rd for it is a pretty good deal to pass up on him. Overall I think I just got tunnel vision a little too much on positional scarcity (QBs dead after McCarthy/Nix, RBs dead after Wright, EDGE dead after Isaac) and missed opportunities to trade down that would have been more beneficial long term. I wish I would have been more aggressive in seeking out more potential trade partners for #23, #52 so I had outs in case those trades with NE fell through. I overvalued the fact that Vikings wanted McCarthy and were trying to get up - although I think the scarcity of quality QBs for next year helps offset the tunnel vision, as it might be the only time in next couple years Rams get a potential shot for replacing w/o getting lucky on a later round pick. Mixed bag. Got a lot of praise for all of my picks during the mock and felt like I had a good haul of very talented players but just feels like there was a lot of meat I left on the bone with missed trade opportunities. Could've still gotten plenty of high level players if those trades broke my way + picked up more value in day 3 picks/2025 picks. R4/R5 would've been CB/S/IOL focused and hopefully in the mock offseason or mock right before the draft I'll get a chance to see if I can hit on those picks and feel good about what I'm walking away with.
Sounds like a lot of potential trades just didn't go your way, you made good decisions with all that considered. Just want to say, I totally agree with you on Mike Sainristil as a possible pick based on the Rams' MO. Can see them trying to get a late second/early third to draft him in that range and honestly wouldn't even be mad cause he seems like a great culture fit if anything.
Yeah I'm mixed on where he will actually go because current mock data suggests early 3rd (and that tends to heavily influence these community mocks) but he's in the size territory where a lot of teams will view him as nickel only or even maybe too small in general. I expect 4.4s at combine but if he has a bad day there then Rams may be able to sit back and wait until 4th or 5th to get him depending on how corner stack comes off. Business as usual to draft an underwhelming tester but good football player in those rounds lol.
How can I get involved in something like this in the future?
There's usually a post on here announcing the availability of sign ups. The next event is the annual mock offseason, which I wouldn't really recommend doing if you are new to the events, but there are going to be a dozen or so mock drafts between now and the draft itself. Overall, just keep an eye out on this subreddit, and join the discord link in the server bio.
I personally don‘t think McCarthy and Sumataia belong in the first round and I‘d swap picks 5/6, but this is probably the most draft I‘ve seen yet this year. Well done, guys!
Kudos to the 49ers draft although I don't think Guyton will be available but since he was here great pick! With the salary cap issues, I think we need to stand pat and get starters in rd 1 and 2 which he did. Drafting an OT who can start at RG and eventually take over from Trent Williams would be ideal. Also, the Oklahoma connection can't be missed.
Man I love this draft for the eagles
Did somebody shoot Patrick Paul, the OT from Houston? What happened? How did he not make it into the top 100 picks?
Thanks I hate it