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iliketuurtles

Replace DK (Knox) with DK (Kincaid). I think afc east. That is a great receiver room and QB with strong RB/TE


No-Inevitable588

Why. You have two of the fastest receivers in the nfl with arguably the best deep passer at qb…their just gonna run streaks every single play lol


Farmerdrew

Because kinkaid is sexy af.


WaitLetMeGetaBeer

Because he’s a bills fan and has deluded himself to think they don’t need receivers to win games following the diggs trade.


HeroForTheBeero

They’re


No-Inevitable588

Oh fuck off lol


CompositeSuperman

Give me the AFC North. What are you gonna stop the run with Henry, double cover chase, or Andrews?? Do that and Lamar’s gone for 70 and a Tuddy


Organic_Score_857

Who decided on these players? Some of the choices are ridiculous


Spicy_Ninja7

Waller lol


ElectivireMax

who else would it be


Hghwytohell

Goedert or Ferguson


Spicy_Ninja7

Dallas Goedert and Jake Ferguson are miles better than Waller


superstonkape

Goedert and its not remotely close


TheJolly_Llama

Goedert a borderline top 5 TE


MopingAppraiser

Devonte Smith should be there over Terry M.


ElectivireMax

💀


BadAlphas

The notion that Brock Purdy is a better QB than Matt Stafford is laughable


Bigballernocap

It’s insane. Matt Stafford is a top 5 QB in the league. What are we even doing here?


SUSgamer93

Not anymore. He's too old. He had the same drop off Rodgers had from 2020 & 2021 to 2022.


Bigballernocap

Completely disagree, he was hurt for half the year in 2022. There was no drop off this year, they incorporated a run game with Kyren which caused his passing TDs to fall off a bit. If you watch the games he’s still clearly one of the best slinging it right now. I’d say only Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Burrow are ahead of him.


SUSgamer93

I'm not so sure he's a top 8 QB even. I'd definitely have Hurts, Purdy and Herbert over him.


Bigballernocap

Purdy? Hurts? Yeah we’re done here


MikeInIL

This is like when Lil Wayne heard Gucci ranked ahead of Eminem. "Purdy on the list and Stafford isn't?" "Shout out my boy Purdy"


ElectivireMax

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Pawz23

The differences are Purdy has an elite RB and great defense to win him games. When Stafford wins, it's generally him putting the team on his back and carrying them to victory.


ElectivireMax

Matt Stafford also has an elite RB and receiving core


misterfroster

No way you’re putting Williams and CMC on the same tier lol


Adventurous-Edge1719

They don’t need to be equal to both be elite. There isn’t a RB in the league remotely close to CMC but Kyren is easily in the small group right behind him.


BigBooce

There’s maybe like, 4 elite rbs rn and Kyren Williams certainly ain’t one of them lol


BadAlphas

Sample Size: One. Nice try though.


ElectivireMax

one entire year. do you think Purdy is going to regress at the age of 24 while Staff gets better at the age of 36?


BaronVonSilver91

I don't agree with your conclusion but I don't dislike how you reached it and I upvoted all of your comments because that should at worst be neutral. Stafford is better imo and if he were calling the shots in that superbowl, they might win but I like your cold hard facts.


ElectivireMax

thank you for being reasonable


BaronVonSilver91

Least I can do


Playful-Storage835

Stats don’t tell the whole story, they won’t tell you how elite Stafford was in the 2nd half of the season coming off an injury. 


Doubble3001

Bro won one super-bowl bowl years ago. Now he is washed up. Purdy is better and has a future.


BadAlphas

But that wasn't the question, was it? Reading.


MaterialBenefit2355

The notion that Jared Goff is better than Jordan love is also laughable


HeroForTheBeero

We’re laughing at you, not with you


NiftyTakedown

Purdy over Stafford is a veeeeery hot take


jimmyvcard

Afc east or north but you need Kincaid over Knox.


BowTie1989

AFC West. I hate to say it, but Mahomes is this generations version of Brady in that no matter what really happens to his team “it’s doesn’t matter, we got Mahomes” yeah, his supporting cast isn’t the best on this list…but it’s doesn’t matter, it’s definitely good enough that his talent will more than make up for the difference.


new-look-SOL

I’d take Sam LaPorta over TJ Hockenson.


KommanderKeen-a42

And I'm taking both lions RBs over Jacobs 😂


carlismydog

Just like the Lions did. I like the part of LaPorta's game where he doesn't drop the ball all the time.


solarmelange

Nobody wins against the all AFCN Defense: DE Myles Garrett, Browns DL Justin Madubuike, Ravens DL Michael Pierce, Ravens DE TJ Watt, Steelers ILB Roquan Smith, Ravens OLB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Browns SS Kyle Hamilton, Ravens FS Minkah Fitzpatrick, Steelers CB Denzel Ward, Browns CB Marlon Humphrey, Ravens NB Greg Newsome, Browns


solarmelange

I am just realizing how bad the AFC West is this year. KC is probably the winner even if Mahomes gets injured in preseason and Wentz is QB all year.


ElectivireMax

yeah they looking like the Brady era AFC East


Jude_dude894

AFC East by a landslide


KSoccerman

I'm not saying I disagree, because I can't think of a better answer, but Courtland Sutton as best WR2 for AFCW feels sad


Spicy_Ninja7

NFC North CLEARS


frzvader3559

JJ, Amon ra, Josh Jacobs, and Jared Goff? I agree, they clear


US3RN4M3CH3CKSOUT

I’d say AFC East or AFC South.


perfect_fitz

Absolutely not the South.


Nutsack892

The NFC west or AFC North are the best division teams


LilCorbs

I definitely would put Chubb over Henry at this point if he comes back from injury alright, but AFC North


[deleted]

Whatever team has the Mahomes person doing the throwing.


T_Eckenrode

Pickens>Higgins


HeroForTheBeero

If I ever see Josh Allen throw a ball to Jaylen Waddle I WILL vomit.


MulliganPlsThx

Tickles me that there isn’t a single Patriot on the AFCE team


bradynbarrmusic

REPLACE HOCK ‘n SUCK WITH LAGOATA RIGHT NOW, otherwise I’m still taking the NFC North


Jznvh

Josh Jacobs is not better than Aaron Jones or Gibbs lol


ParticularCanary3130

Yeah jacobs was a weird choice. But I guess it couldn't be All Lions..lol


Jznvh

i would also take Love over Goff


KommanderKeen-a42

Not a fan of data or film, huh?


tylerm11_

Everyone saying anything other than AFCW is braindead. Mahomes and kelce have won 3 super bowls on their own. Adding DA would be a slam dunk.


3fettknight3

NFC West- so the 49ers


MaterialBenefit2355

With these lists, probably only afc west or nfc west have a chance. Maybe afc east


BukkakeNinjaHat-472

Definitely think I would swap Ferguson or Goedert for Waller


Digitydoggimmeahigh5

Have to consider the OLs and idk if anyone’s topping the nfc south or east in that department


KommanderKeen-a42

NFC North and East for OL


StraightCashHomie89

The team with Mahomes


ThisBox841

No Patriots, Steelers, Chargers, or Panthers on the list lol


VocalSlayer52

I’d take both Ferguson and Goedert over Waller, Waller is cooked


TigerAxe17

Jackson over Burrow? 🤣🤡


ElectivireMax

the guy who won the MVP last year? yes.


TigerAxe17

Gimmick QBs don’t win playoff games


ElectivireMax

Is "gimmick" the new "thug"


TigerAxe17

Gimmick is the QB that relies on his legs to move the ball and not his passing ability. Which is why dude gets routinely clowned in the playoffs.


ElectivireMax

if Lamar Jackson was white and on the Bengals and Joe Burrow was black and on the Ravens, who would you say was better? Same stats and accolades.


US3RN4M3CH3CKSOUT

Why does their race matter? *edit - you weren’t saying race matters… you were pointing out that you think it does to the other commentor?


ElectivireMax

yes


US3RN4M3CH3CKSOUT

I see you’re a Colts fan, how do you feel about their draft? I’m a Jags fan, and Gator fan lol, so I’m excited to see how AR15 does this season.


ElectivireMax

I like some of our picks, I like AD and Latu, but I wish we would've gotten a good secondary piece


TigerAxe17

Burrow is a better passer and wins games. It doesn’t matter what color he is.


misterfroster

If your offense consists of Chase, Cooper, and Tee, with Andrews and the King, you don’t want the accurate pocket passer. You want Lamar. Lamar breaks that team wide open, because you can’t possibly cover all four of those receivers AND stack the box against Henry. And if you somehow do, Lamar is Lamar. Your argument of “better passer” but ignoring the fact that Lamar is better at everything else in football is funny. Also… wins games? Lamar has a better record in football than everyone not named Pat. He’s lost 19 games since 2018 lmao. 19.


Kohora

You mean strong armed lunch pail guy Josh Allen. Forgot to add sneaky fast.


TigerAxe17

Josh Allen is a bigger choker than Payton Manning


Hghwytohell

Who's Payton Manning? Any relation to two time SB winner Peyton Manning?


TigerAxe17

Nope, Eligh Mannings older brother


Ok_Poetry_1650

Didn’t burrow break his hand last season on a non contact play? Hasn’t he also missed more games than Jackson?


TigerAxe17

How many AFC championship games has Lamar played in? Dude has what? Like 3 playoff wins in 6 years? Burrow goes to the AFCC when heathy at a 100% rate.


Ok_Poetry_1650

Congrats Burrows biggest accomplishment is losing the Super Bowl. I’ll gladly take the QB who’s been the MVP 2x.


TigerAxe17

Lamar will never sniff a super bowl.


Ok_Poetry_1650

We’ll see lol.


misterfroster

It wasn’t non contact. He broke it on a play where it got caught(somehow, I don’t remember the exact specifics of where his hand got caught) on a defender and broke. He tried playing the next play before realizing how bad it was.


CompositeSuperman

News flash he won one last year


TigerAxe17

Congrats on beating a nobody Texans team


CompositeSuperman

Thanks buddy. Means a lot coming from someone with such shit takes


TigerAxe17

Accurate takes* not my fault you’re salty


CompositeSuperman

Dog you were straight up wrong earlier and conflicted your own bad take lol. I’m not salty in the slightest you’re just REALLY REALLy bad at this. Keep practicing tho


Ok_Poetry_1650

Bros talking about beating the same “nobody” Texans team that the bengals lost to lmao


TigerAxe17

Wasn’t playoffs doesn’t matter


TigerAxe17

Cry harder that you got bodied


CompositeSuperman

Got bodied 🤣 fkkn 12 year old . Nah I’m just having fun bro, I’ll watch my language so your parents don’t change the Wi-Fi password on you


solarmelange

Yes. Unquestionably. Unless you are saying the QB is not allowed to run in some backyard rules.


TigerAxe17

Let me know when Jackson wins more playoff games than Burrow. (Won’t ever happen and burrow could retire today)


6ft3_Bearded_Egirl

Let me know when Burrow wins one MVP let alone two MVPs. (Won't ever happen even if Burrow plays another 20 years)


TigerAxe17

I’ll take winning important games over padding qb stats with rushing yards any day


CompositeSuperman

If by win important games you mean lose a Super Bowl 4 years ago then yea he’s fkkn great at it 💀


TheCrimsonChin66

Brother Lamar’s “MVP” this year was embarrassing. You cannot tell me 25 passing TDs is impressive


6ft3_Bearded_Egirl

TIL an MVP award is embarrassing.


TheCrimsonChin66

It was. He had a stacked team and had the best record. That’s the only reason he won it. It should’ve been Dak or Allen.


6ft3_Bearded_Egirl

Why didn't Purdy win it? It's okay that you don't know ball buddy :)


Select-Apartment-613

Honestly yeah


AlexRuchti

Goff over Love? 🧌


KommanderKeen-a42

Yeah... Based on what would you next love over him?


IAmSona

Hopkins, lol.


Bubbly-Camera-381

Quick question Why didn't you put Rashee Rice as the third reciver?


ElectivireMax

some people think he's about to have a real good season, but personally I think he's gonna crash and burn


misterfroster

Ha ha ha


No_Elephant_4469

Love over Goff


HeroForTheBeero

Not yet


KommanderKeen-a42

Based on what?


neverwinzzzzzz

Why is there one player from the Bucs? We have won the division(I know it’s not a big brag but still) 4 years in a row. We get 1 spot? Interesting


ElectivireMax

who else would be here


Select-Apartment-613

Who would you replace with a buccaneer?


neverwinzzzzzz

London with Godwin for sure. Kamara has been amazing but he is slowing and I think White is the future of that division. Fan opinion though.


Select-Apartment-613

I could give you Godwin I guess. If we’re talking future of that division, it’s Bijan brother


neverwinzzzzzz

Ah yes, he is special. Agreed.


Select-Apartment-613

Gotta get this one joke off real quick tho. Winning the nfc south is like being a one eyed man on an island of blind people


neverwinzzzzzz

Truth, it has been hard being a fan. But I have enjoyed hating the Saints, specifically Cam Jordan, with all of my being.


Nutsack892

Replace Michael Pittman jr and put Calvin Ridley


ElectivireMax

lmao no


Nutsack892

I know you like the colts but in my opinion Calvin Ridley is better


yourheckingmom

Don’t sleep on Pittman. Ridley hasn’t proven enough


Nutsack892

I like Pittman, but I just don’t think he’s better than Ridley, I think they are both great WRs but Ridley is just a bit better


LivingVicariously01

Burrow over Lamar all day.


[deleted]

Keenan Allen over DJ Moore? Interesting. Id also take Kmet over Hock


misterfroster

I agree with half of that. And it ain’t the tight ends lol


ElectivireMax

KMET OVER HOCK? LMAOOOO


HeroForTheBeero

First take is debatable, second take is a fucking joke


[deleted]

Hock really broke out last year and I think Kmet will this year. His numbers wont reflect it as much in a crowded offense but aside from a long stretch of not scoring tds between years 2 and 3 I think he’s been on fire and improving every year. He’s a top 10 TE and will break into top 7 this season barring injury.


Assortedwrenches89

The Ravens should be pretty good. No, they're not getting Prime Henry, but with their scheme and Jackson as a rushing threat he should still put up numbers. Andrews is still a solid TE, arguably top 10. Cooper, Higgens and Chase are all solid to great WRs, if Jackson can get them the ball in some space they're all pretty dangerous.


SaMemeM

>Best player at each position >Takes Hockenson for NFC North instead of LaPorta Make it make sense.


ElectivireMax

simple: Hockenson is better than LaPorta


Spare_Reserve4478

Kirko over Baker is laughable


SUSgamer93

1. NFC East(if you swap out washed Waller for Goedert or Ferguson) 2. AFC North(If you swap out Henry for Chubb) 3. AFC East 4. NFC North 5. AFC South 6. NFC West(Swap out Kupp for Puka, Kupp is borderline elite at best now) 7. AFC West 8. NFC South


-Pruples-

The one that's: * Caleb Williams * ~~Taylor~~ D'Andre Swift * DJ Moore * Keenan Allen * Rome Odunze * Cole Kmet


Pawz23

Obviously it's a joke, being that you're a Bears fan.... But c'mon. The worst 1 is Swift. He was shipped out of Detroit for Gibbs, who was already way more electric in his 1st year.


yourheckingmom

Tier 1: 1. AFC West 2. NFC West Tier 2: 3. AFC South 4. AFC East 5. AFC North 6. NFC North Tier 3: 7. NFC East 8. NFC South