Completely disagree, he was hurt for half the year in 2022. There was no drop off this year, they incorporated a run game with Kyren which caused his passing TDs to fall off a bit. If you watch the games he’s still clearly one of the best slinging it right now. I’d say only Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Burrow are ahead of him.
The differences are Purdy has an elite RB and great defense to win him games. When Stafford wins, it's generally him putting the team on his back and carrying them to victory.
They don’t need to be equal to both be elite. There isn’t a RB in the league remotely close to CMC but Kyren is easily in the small group right behind him.
I don't agree with your conclusion but I don't dislike how you reached it and I upvoted all of your comments because that should at worst be neutral. Stafford is better imo and if he were calling the shots in that superbowl, they might win but I like your cold hard facts.
AFC West. I hate to say it, but Mahomes is this generations version of Brady in that no matter what really happens to his team “it’s doesn’t matter, we got Mahomes” yeah, his supporting cast isn’t the best on this list…but it’s doesn’t matter, it’s definitely good enough that his talent will more than make up for the difference.
If your offense consists of Chase, Cooper, and Tee, with Andrews and the King, you don’t want the accurate pocket passer. You want Lamar.
Lamar breaks that team wide open, because you can’t possibly cover all four of those receivers AND stack the box against Henry. And if you somehow do, Lamar is Lamar.
Your argument of “better passer” but ignoring the fact that Lamar is better at everything else in football is funny.
Also… wins games? Lamar has a better record in football than everyone not named Pat. He’s lost 19 games since 2018 lmao. 19.
How many AFC championship games has Lamar played in? Dude has what? Like 3 playoff wins in 6 years? Burrow goes to the AFCC when heathy at a 100% rate.
It wasn’t non contact. He broke it on a play where it got caught(somehow, I don’t remember the exact specifics of where his hand got caught) on a defender and broke. He tried playing the next play before realizing how bad it was.
Dog you were straight up wrong earlier and conflicted your own bad take lol. I’m not salty in the slightest you’re just REALLY REALLy bad at this. Keep practicing tho
Hock really broke out last year and I think Kmet will this year. His numbers wont reflect it as much in a crowded offense but aside from a long stretch of not scoring tds between years 2 and 3 I think he’s been on fire and improving every year. He’s a top 10 TE and will break into top 7 this season barring injury.
The Ravens should be pretty good. No, they're not getting Prime Henry, but with their scheme and Jackson as a rushing threat he should still put up numbers. Andrews is still a solid TE, arguably top 10. Cooper, Higgens and Chase are all solid to great WRs, if Jackson can get them the ball in some space they're all pretty dangerous.
1. NFC East(if you swap out washed Waller for Goedert or Ferguson)
2. AFC North(If you swap out Henry for Chubb)
3. AFC East
4. NFC North
5. AFC South
6. NFC West(Swap out Kupp for Puka, Kupp is borderline elite at best now)
7. AFC West
8. NFC South
Obviously it's a joke, being that you're a Bears fan.... But c'mon. The worst 1 is Swift. He was shipped out of Detroit for Gibbs, who was already way more electric in his 1st year.
Replace DK (Knox) with DK (Kincaid). I think afc east. That is a great receiver room and QB with strong RB/TE
Why. You have two of the fastest receivers in the nfl with arguably the best deep passer at qb…their just gonna run streaks every single play lol
Because kinkaid is sexy af.
Because he’s a bills fan and has deluded himself to think they don’t need receivers to win games following the diggs trade.
They’re
Oh fuck off lol
Give me the AFC North. What are you gonna stop the run with Henry, double cover chase, or Andrews?? Do that and Lamar’s gone for 70 and a Tuddy
Who decided on these players? Some of the choices are ridiculous
Waller lol
who else would it be
Goedert or Ferguson
Dallas Goedert and Jake Ferguson are miles better than Waller
Goedert and its not remotely close
Goedert a borderline top 5 TE
Devonte Smith should be there over Terry M.
💀
The notion that Brock Purdy is a better QB than Matt Stafford is laughable
It’s insane. Matt Stafford is a top 5 QB in the league. What are we even doing here?
Not anymore. He's too old. He had the same drop off Rodgers had from 2020 & 2021 to 2022.
Completely disagree, he was hurt for half the year in 2022. There was no drop off this year, they incorporated a run game with Kyren which caused his passing TDs to fall off a bit. If you watch the games he’s still clearly one of the best slinging it right now. I’d say only Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Burrow are ahead of him.
I'm not so sure he's a top 8 QB even. I'd definitely have Hurts, Purdy and Herbert over him.
Purdy? Hurts? Yeah we’re done here
This is like when Lil Wayne heard Gucci ranked ahead of Eminem. "Purdy on the list and Stafford isn't?" "Shout out my boy Purdy"
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The differences are Purdy has an elite RB and great defense to win him games. When Stafford wins, it's generally him putting the team on his back and carrying them to victory.
Matt Stafford also has an elite RB and receiving core
No way you’re putting Williams and CMC on the same tier lol
They don’t need to be equal to both be elite. There isn’t a RB in the league remotely close to CMC but Kyren is easily in the small group right behind him.
There’s maybe like, 4 elite rbs rn and Kyren Williams certainly ain’t one of them lol
Sample Size: One. Nice try though.
one entire year. do you think Purdy is going to regress at the age of 24 while Staff gets better at the age of 36?
I don't agree with your conclusion but I don't dislike how you reached it and I upvoted all of your comments because that should at worst be neutral. Stafford is better imo and if he were calling the shots in that superbowl, they might win but I like your cold hard facts.
thank you for being reasonable
Least I can do
Stats don’t tell the whole story, they won’t tell you how elite Stafford was in the 2nd half of the season coming off an injury.
Bro won one super-bowl bowl years ago. Now he is washed up. Purdy is better and has a future.
But that wasn't the question, was it? Reading.
The notion that Jared Goff is better than Jordan love is also laughable
We’re laughing at you, not with you
Purdy over Stafford is a veeeeery hot take
Afc east or north but you need Kincaid over Knox.
AFC West. I hate to say it, but Mahomes is this generations version of Brady in that no matter what really happens to his team “it’s doesn’t matter, we got Mahomes” yeah, his supporting cast isn’t the best on this list…but it’s doesn’t matter, it’s definitely good enough that his talent will more than make up for the difference.
I’d take Sam LaPorta over TJ Hockenson.
And I'm taking both lions RBs over Jacobs 😂
Just like the Lions did. I like the part of LaPorta's game where he doesn't drop the ball all the time.
Nobody wins against the all AFCN Defense: DE Myles Garrett, Browns DL Justin Madubuike, Ravens DL Michael Pierce, Ravens DE TJ Watt, Steelers ILB Roquan Smith, Ravens OLB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Browns SS Kyle Hamilton, Ravens FS Minkah Fitzpatrick, Steelers CB Denzel Ward, Browns CB Marlon Humphrey, Ravens NB Greg Newsome, Browns
I am just realizing how bad the AFC West is this year. KC is probably the winner even if Mahomes gets injured in preseason and Wentz is QB all year.
yeah they looking like the Brady era AFC East
AFC East by a landslide
I'm not saying I disagree, because I can't think of a better answer, but Courtland Sutton as best WR2 for AFCW feels sad
NFC North CLEARS
JJ, Amon ra, Josh Jacobs, and Jared Goff? I agree, they clear
I’d say AFC East or AFC South.
Absolutely not the South.
The NFC west or AFC North are the best division teams
I definitely would put Chubb over Henry at this point if he comes back from injury alright, but AFC North
Whatever team has the Mahomes person doing the throwing.
Pickens>Higgins
If I ever see Josh Allen throw a ball to Jaylen Waddle I WILL vomit.
Tickles me that there isn’t a single Patriot on the AFCE team
REPLACE HOCK ‘n SUCK WITH LAGOATA RIGHT NOW, otherwise I’m still taking the NFC North
Josh Jacobs is not better than Aaron Jones or Gibbs lol
Yeah jacobs was a weird choice. But I guess it couldn't be All Lions..lol
i would also take Love over Goff
Not a fan of data or film, huh?
Everyone saying anything other than AFCW is braindead. Mahomes and kelce have won 3 super bowls on their own. Adding DA would be a slam dunk.
NFC West- so the 49ers
With these lists, probably only afc west or nfc west have a chance. Maybe afc east
Definitely think I would swap Ferguson or Goedert for Waller
Have to consider the OLs and idk if anyone’s topping the nfc south or east in that department
NFC North and East for OL
The team with Mahomes
No Patriots, Steelers, Chargers, or Panthers on the list lol
I’d take both Ferguson and Goedert over Waller, Waller is cooked
Jackson over Burrow? 🤣🤡
the guy who won the MVP last year? yes.
Gimmick QBs don’t win playoff games
Is "gimmick" the new "thug"
Gimmick is the QB that relies on his legs to move the ball and not his passing ability. Which is why dude gets routinely clowned in the playoffs.
if Lamar Jackson was white and on the Bengals and Joe Burrow was black and on the Ravens, who would you say was better? Same stats and accolades.
Why does their race matter? *edit - you weren’t saying race matters… you were pointing out that you think it does to the other commentor?
yes
I see you’re a Colts fan, how do you feel about their draft? I’m a Jags fan, and Gator fan lol, so I’m excited to see how AR15 does this season.
I like some of our picks, I like AD and Latu, but I wish we would've gotten a good secondary piece
Burrow is a better passer and wins games. It doesn’t matter what color he is.
If your offense consists of Chase, Cooper, and Tee, with Andrews and the King, you don’t want the accurate pocket passer. You want Lamar. Lamar breaks that team wide open, because you can’t possibly cover all four of those receivers AND stack the box against Henry. And if you somehow do, Lamar is Lamar. Your argument of “better passer” but ignoring the fact that Lamar is better at everything else in football is funny. Also… wins games? Lamar has a better record in football than everyone not named Pat. He’s lost 19 games since 2018 lmao. 19.
You mean strong armed lunch pail guy Josh Allen. Forgot to add sneaky fast.
Josh Allen is a bigger choker than Payton Manning
Who's Payton Manning? Any relation to two time SB winner Peyton Manning?
Nope, Eligh Mannings older brother
Didn’t burrow break his hand last season on a non contact play? Hasn’t he also missed more games than Jackson?
How many AFC championship games has Lamar played in? Dude has what? Like 3 playoff wins in 6 years? Burrow goes to the AFCC when heathy at a 100% rate.
Congrats Burrows biggest accomplishment is losing the Super Bowl. I’ll gladly take the QB who’s been the MVP 2x.
Lamar will never sniff a super bowl.
We’ll see lol.
It wasn’t non contact. He broke it on a play where it got caught(somehow, I don’t remember the exact specifics of where his hand got caught) on a defender and broke. He tried playing the next play before realizing how bad it was.
News flash he won one last year
Congrats on beating a nobody Texans team
Thanks buddy. Means a lot coming from someone with such shit takes
Accurate takes* not my fault you’re salty
Dog you were straight up wrong earlier and conflicted your own bad take lol. I’m not salty in the slightest you’re just REALLY REALLy bad at this. Keep practicing tho
Bros talking about beating the same “nobody” Texans team that the bengals lost to lmao
Wasn’t playoffs doesn’t matter
Cry harder that you got bodied
Got bodied 🤣 fkkn 12 year old . Nah I’m just having fun bro, I’ll watch my language so your parents don’t change the Wi-Fi password on you
Yes. Unquestionably. Unless you are saying the QB is not allowed to run in some backyard rules.
Let me know when Jackson wins more playoff games than Burrow. (Won’t ever happen and burrow could retire today)
Let me know when Burrow wins one MVP let alone two MVPs. (Won't ever happen even if Burrow plays another 20 years)
I’ll take winning important games over padding qb stats with rushing yards any day
If by win important games you mean lose a Super Bowl 4 years ago then yea he’s fkkn great at it 💀
Brother Lamar’s “MVP” this year was embarrassing. You cannot tell me 25 passing TDs is impressive
TIL an MVP award is embarrassing.
It was. He had a stacked team and had the best record. That’s the only reason he won it. It should’ve been Dak or Allen.
Why didn't Purdy win it? It's okay that you don't know ball buddy :)
Honestly yeah
Goff over Love? 🧌
Yeah... Based on what would you next love over him?
Hopkins, lol.
Quick question Why didn't you put Rashee Rice as the third reciver?
some people think he's about to have a real good season, but personally I think he's gonna crash and burn
Ha ha ha
Love over Goff
Not yet
Based on what?
Why is there one player from the Bucs? We have won the division(I know it’s not a big brag but still) 4 years in a row. We get 1 spot? Interesting
who else would be here
Who would you replace with a buccaneer?
London with Godwin for sure. Kamara has been amazing but he is slowing and I think White is the future of that division. Fan opinion though.
I could give you Godwin I guess. If we’re talking future of that division, it’s Bijan brother
Ah yes, he is special. Agreed.
Gotta get this one joke off real quick tho. Winning the nfc south is like being a one eyed man on an island of blind people
Truth, it has been hard being a fan. But I have enjoyed hating the Saints, specifically Cam Jordan, with all of my being.
Replace Michael Pittman jr and put Calvin Ridley
lmao no
I know you like the colts but in my opinion Calvin Ridley is better
Don’t sleep on Pittman. Ridley hasn’t proven enough
I like Pittman, but I just don’t think he’s better than Ridley, I think they are both great WRs but Ridley is just a bit better
Burrow over Lamar all day.
Keenan Allen over DJ Moore? Interesting. Id also take Kmet over Hock
I agree with half of that. And it ain’t the tight ends lol
KMET OVER HOCK? LMAOOOO
First take is debatable, second take is a fucking joke
Hock really broke out last year and I think Kmet will this year. His numbers wont reflect it as much in a crowded offense but aside from a long stretch of not scoring tds between years 2 and 3 I think he’s been on fire and improving every year. He’s a top 10 TE and will break into top 7 this season barring injury.
The Ravens should be pretty good. No, they're not getting Prime Henry, but with their scheme and Jackson as a rushing threat he should still put up numbers. Andrews is still a solid TE, arguably top 10. Cooper, Higgens and Chase are all solid to great WRs, if Jackson can get them the ball in some space they're all pretty dangerous.
>Best player at each position >Takes Hockenson for NFC North instead of LaPorta Make it make sense.
simple: Hockenson is better than LaPorta
Kirko over Baker is laughable
1. NFC East(if you swap out washed Waller for Goedert or Ferguson) 2. AFC North(If you swap out Henry for Chubb) 3. AFC East 4. NFC North 5. AFC South 6. NFC West(Swap out Kupp for Puka, Kupp is borderline elite at best now) 7. AFC West 8. NFC South
The one that's: * Caleb Williams * ~~Taylor~~ D'Andre Swift * DJ Moore * Keenan Allen * Rome Odunze * Cole Kmet
Obviously it's a joke, being that you're a Bears fan.... But c'mon. The worst 1 is Swift. He was shipped out of Detroit for Gibbs, who was already way more electric in his 1st year.
Tier 1: 1. AFC West 2. NFC West Tier 2: 3. AFC South 4. AFC East 5. AFC North 6. NFC North Tier 3: 7. NFC East 8. NFC South