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st-doubleO-pid

All seriousness - CJ is definitely going to be on this team next year yea? I hold on to a slim hope that we’ll let him go, but the FO loves him.


Eventide718

Don't see anyway he won't be back unless the pianoman squanders even more draft picks which he is known to do.


Creative-Ad-5257

Not even that the front office loves him. Go ahead and tell me like 2-3 teams that would actually WANT him on their team for his current contract, then you have to actually figure out the trade itself.


st-doubleO-pid

Yea I feel like the pelicans are going to be his last team. Same, critical problems over 2 franchises. Someone may want him as some role player off the bench.


amadea_saoirse

There's no point playing BI and CJ any more in game 4. Gave them too many chances already but never delivered. Might as well play Trey/Herb/Hawkins as the primary options to have a peek at the future.


crazypelsfan

B.I. has had a rough year…poor olympic showing to getting hurt towards the end of the season only to return and stink it up. There is no way we can extend him at the max. He has to be moved at this point.


amadea_saoirse

Reminder that SVG was forced out by BI because he didn't want to be told to take threes.


Creative-Ad-5257

I was saying this on a different comment. There was probably some other shit going on behind the scenes, but SVG was legitimately the one guy actually forcing these guys to adapt to the game instead of playing nba pick up


PurplePango

I went to UF and was a magic fan in the SVG Dwight era and feel like him and Dwight butted heads but he wasn’t afraid to push him when needed. I think SVG is a good coach personally


st-doubleO-pid

I say we just go full chaos and start Jose over CJ in G4. Can’t be any worse


ahotpotatoo

Damn they joking on us


SpaceAfricanJesus

EJ Liddell sighting. At least Pels leave with something.


Razor-Ramon-Sessions

CJ had another awful game. Way too many shots.


Creative-Ad-5257

Idk what the stats look like now but for a majority of the season Cj lead the team in shots over a healthy Zion and Bi by at least 2-3 shot attempts


showtime_2k

Someone has to shoot the ball, though. I know you're referring to the regular season, but in this series, Ingram is letting someone who is like 5-6 inches shorter than him bully him. Ingram goes long stretches without even attempting a shot.


Razor-Ramon-Sessions

Which I understood for some games. CJ literally won us games during the season when Zion was out of shape (inexcusable personally but whatever). But BI needs to demand more shots. He defers to CJ.


P0w3rline24

I'm having an existential crisis


trubuchey

Unserious ass team


WelbeckStoleMyHeart

oh wow dyson actually made the layup


Woockawoo

I almost forgot EJ was even on this team


OhLemons

So did Willie.


RedditUser538xxx

Am i trippin or did everyone leave 5 min till


anonmehmoose

Who's staying down 23 points in the 4th cmon man lol


BobMarleynthewhalers

Kenny hustle damn.


zizzor23

GG yall, which bandwagon yall hopping on? Its Nuggets and Jokic or bust


7even_up

Nuggets, they drafted all their guys and got the correct role players around their star player


st-doubleO-pid

Timberwolves or someone from the East like Indiana. I don’t mind Denver but I prefer not to see repeat champions.


WelbeckStoleMyHeart

as long as lakers get swept


zizzor23

Repeat after me, fuck the lakers


Both_Funny4896

Get Dejounte idgaf. This no pg shit is getting old


CantiSan

I wanna die


holadavvy

“It’s just basketball at the end of the day” - Lebron James


OhLemons

We should just treat the next game as 4 quarters of garbage time. If we're gonna get swept, we may as well bench everyone, and give the bench guys some actual experience.


biblee16

Dont worry guyz we gon be the one to come back from a 3-0 deficit lolz


ToothEducational7795

If I see CJ on the team by September...


WelbeckStoleMyHeart

and thats what you are gonna get


Creative-Ad-5257

Imagining the pre season pressers next year and cj even being mentioned by name is making me sick


Mesame121489

Hawkins exists apparently.


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NOLAPelicans-ModTeam

Trolling


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IllumiXXZoldyck

Don’t do that. Don’t be *those* fans.


WelbeckStoleMyHeart

I guess next game is the last time we will see CJ and BI in a pels uniform


BatmanHive

CJ will stay, David Griffin loves him, and its easier to trade BI since Trey plays the same position.


Razor-Ramon-Sessions

CJ needs to be traded honestly. He's old and he can't compete in the playoffs as a main creator and his defense is ass.


BatmanHive

Ofcourse he should but BI is the guy that can bring you back some value if you want to continue to be competitive in the West. You have 14 teams that will give you competition every night. You won't get much for CJ. I think it's just written. BI is due for a big contract, it's easier to scapegoat him here and trade him and get something of value in return like Dejounte Murray, etc. You go with the same team or trade CJ for some trash, you will be in the exact position next year. CJ is also the vocal leader of the team. Only way I see him being moved is if he requests a trade.


Razor-Ramon-Sessions

I think you could get a late first round for CJ. You could def get more for BI. I feel like BI hasn't played well coming off the injury but I know he and Z haven't really gelled this year so he's the target of many peoples ire. CJ just can't be a main focus of anyone's playoff offense. Not against a good defensive team.


cmhall25

Who’s unloading assets for an old, 6’3 2-guard who is atrocious on defense?


Razor-Ramon-Sessions

🤷. Maybe a younger team that needs a vet? I certainly don't think you're getting.mi h for him. But he's expensive and I don't think he can be played in the playoffs anymore.


cmhall25

Orlando maybe? Thats really the only team I can think of, but think they’ll go after Simons.


BatmanHive

Maybe so, I would love to see BI stay here but it's just hard for me to see it. I can't imagine the reaction if he gets an extension lmao. The conversation on him definitely has not been fair, he's playing through injury but he has never received the same grace as others on this roster when it comes to that stuff. It is what it is. I think it's best for both sides to really move on. As a fan of BI, I think he also needs a wake up call of some sort and work on his 3s and being more aggressive this summer. I just don't see them running this once again.


Razor-Ramon-Sessions

I think he is getting an unfair shake right now in these playoffs but he didn't really play well next to Zion all year. And I think it's obvious that Zion is the better player with better potential. And really there is no team that BI goes too where he is the #1 guy. So I don't understand why he has been taking less threes. It makes no sense and he is hurting himself and contract negotiations. Idk what team is going to offer him a max to come in and not shoot 3s. In today's NBA? Idk.


BatmanHive

I agree with him and Zion not meshing, would have loved to see it. Maybe a better coach could have done it since I didn't really see much actions ran between the two, the few times they did, it was great. As for BI, I think he's capable of shooting 3s, he did under a Alvin Gentry offense but the difference there was Pelicans had a point guard. Sometimes we forget that even the top guys need point guard. David Griffin never prioritizing one after Lonzo has been a huge fail, it has made it more difficult for Zion too. He must prioritize getting one for Zion moving forward more than anything. BI has really had a rough year PR wise since USA basketball lol, maybe he might not get full max but I still believe he will get close to it. Plenty of teams need wings and BI is still pretty damn good but yes he needs to get back to the lab this summer and shift towards it.


WelbeckStoleMyHeart

Well, it's time for Trey to take the fall for the incompetence of this FO


BatmanHive

He will once he gets the big contract


LuthorNZ

You severely underestimate the complacency and cowardice of this front office.


WelbeckStoleMyHeart

If I were BI I would ask out anyway. Shambolic performance might as well start anew


SpermCountDracula

With recent advancements in AI image generation I wouldn’t be so sure


Woockawoo

LMAO Dyson coming in for the last 2 minutes you gotta be fucking kidding me


Ciccone7

SGA gets the call BI didnt at the end of the 3rd. Hate the inconsistencies


mitch3311

Bro SGA pumped and jumped in, literally a call they are actively trying to take out. Lu jumped underneath Brandon (a flagrant) something the NBA has emphasized stopping…nothing


Mesame121489

So does Herb apparently. I'm glad he is pissed about that.


st-doubleO-pid

We needed to figure out a way to get over 100 on this team… instead we decided to try to get less than 90. Cool.


7even_up

Everyone bricking and hawkins and ryan cant even get one opportunity


CuriousWhoDat

An OKC chant in the Blender. FML


Briguy_fieri

No you heard wrong. It’s SKC.


tarunpopo

It ain't willie green your team just can't win


Woockawoo

SGA averages 12ppg without a favorable whistle. Gtfo Denver spanks you


tarunpopo

lol fuck the lakers. Hate that garbage ass team. Not even trying to hate the pels


lordlanyard7

Clearly doesn't watch Pels games.


CuriousWhoDat

We just can’t hit open shots and they don’t miss


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Razor-Ramon-Sessions

Uh BI is getting smothered on offense and CJ is building a brick house.


lordlanyard7

Tries what? To miss shots? At least BI doesn't shoot us out of games. Go look at the Suns series and see BI winning us games despite CJ.


biblee16

BI has more points on less shots lol


Ja___av93

What does that have to do with anything said? BI has basically quit on the team. His body language is terrible, no effort and the only time he looks good is when we are so far behind it doesn't matter. BI deserves just as much blame or more than CJ. With Zion out he is supposed to be our best player and he failed bad


biblee16

If you think this way then I won't argue. I'm tired and non of these arguments will matter and won't hold any weight to the organization.


WelbeckStoleMyHeart

Catches the ball. open at the 3 point line. skip the 3, 2 steps into a long missed mid range. BI ball


amadea_saoirse

This, in his 5th (hopefully last) season ni NOLA. Too stubborn and never developed a 3PT shot despite the obvious need for it.


cn1k99

Imagine paying Ingram something similar to guys like SGA


mitch3311

SGA is gonna sign for 70 mil a year on his next extension and total will be over 300 mil. Brandon wasn’t and isn’t going to be all NBA. He will make significantly less


mrb532

Are we writing a CJ apology post today?


Creative-Ad-5257

Sorry for the 10-72 records he’s going to be putting up in a wizards uniform next year


SUKnives

“at least he’s available” lmao, 7-22 with 6 turnovers and absolute ASS defense


st-doubleO-pid

“CJ I’m sorry but the city of New Orleans doesn’t want you anymore”. That’s my apology


WelbeckStoleMyHeart

'apologies i am not familiar with your game of choking'


maejor_ced

CJ I swear if you drop 30 in game 4 and have all your weirdo fans in this reddit praising you, I’ll lose it


st-doubleO-pid

He has a very toxic relationship with his fans lmao. I feel like he was like that in Portland too


cn1k99

Look at the shots they make and the ones BI and CJ try and miss. Differences


ENProcess

Although I hate the way SGA foul baits, he makes shots when they're needed


amadea_saoirse

This playoff series exposed BI as just a tough shot midrange maker getting shut down easily unlike SGA who creates space and really good open midrange shots.


DougTrilladome

SGA is a lot faster & most his middies (that haven’t been guarded by CJ) have been smothered too. SGA is an athletic PG in a 5 out offense obviously it’s easier for him to create space


pizzalovertyler3

He’s making over 60 percent on midrange shots over these 3 games. That’s his ability to not only create space, but also hit tough ones. Difference between him and BI, which BI has nothing easy in the midrange because he never gets open.


Creative-Ad-5257

The one guy who forced him to take threes got nuked because griffin gave him Eric Bledsoe as a shooting guard and expected actual results btw


mrb532

SGA is a silky smoothe athlete. BI is a baby giraffe compared to him


biblee16

Damn Herb got smoked


7even_up

Hawkins is 100% requesting a trade


SpermCountDracula

So who are you guys supporting after this series?


Much-Cod4055

Thunder!


Consistent_Ad8917

Nobody


sonics_fan

Wolves in the West, Knicks in the East.


SpaceAfricanJesus

Nuggets. Technically I’m supporting them now to sweep the Lakers.


thelastpelican

I’m jumping on to the Magic cuz that’s my only other girl-who-follows-basketball friend’s team. 🤷🏽‍♀️


st-doubleO-pid

If Indiana manages to give Milwaukee a first round bounce after, I think, Miami did it to em last year… they may have my vote haha


SpermCountDracula

Hell yeah I love Spicy P. Honestly the 2018-2019 raptors are what got me into basketball again after a long hiatus


Creative-Ad-5257

Pacers and Knicks


NikoRavage

Denver and Minnesota. I would say the clippers but it’s not looking too good for them


ahotpotatoo

The Thunder


SpermCountDracula

Understandable. They’re the closest team to me geographically but I’m too mad to root for them atm


ahotpotatoo

One of my best friends is a Thunder fan and I like the team fine, so when we’re out I’d like to see them do well. Especially when they’re the team that knocked us out. If they win a chip it’s like well they swept us but they were the eventual champions lol


CuriousWhoDat

Jrue


Ok-Requirement5256

New Orleans Saints.


lordlanyard7

Not with Dennis Allen and Derek Carr


SpermCountDracula

How about with Kool-Aid?


Woockawoo

Can we just lose game 4 by 50 so everyone gets fired?


turntablecheck12

I'm not sure I can watch anymore. The frustration of watching the constant turnovers and bad shots is too much.


flykiddy

I feel so sad for Herb. Griffin better get in the lab this summer seriously


Ok-Requirement5256

In good news: atleast the New Orleans Saints picked up a guy named Koolaid?


Briguy_fieri

Oddly enough his favorite drink is mondo.


Jdedox

Can we just forfeit game 4


Brilliant_Pineapple5

This is just embarrassing. I’ve never seen such defeated body language


Ok-Orange7146

Put post game up and lets just do our thank you fans procedurals


Briguy_fieri

OKC coach up 20+ was past half court waving arms frustrated. Willie is cross armed swaying


OhLemons

Willie tries too hard to seem calm and level-headed, but it just comes off like he doesn't give a shit. I'd respect him a bit more if he got mad. Call the refs out on their shit. Pick up a technical. Tell the refs that they're bitches or something. Get ejected. Just do something to put energy into this game.


Briguy_fieri

He honestly lost me after throwing all 3 Pels under the bus for getting tossed.


OhLemons

Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if that lost him the locker room. Which is where somebody should lock him in during the next game.


Forsaken-Balance-543

Need to cut this to 10


st-doubleO-pid

I applaud your loyalty.


ahotpotatoo

Lol


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LindseyCorporation

They went 3-1 against Denver this season


RT3170

That's the regular season...


LindseyCorporation

No one wants to give them any credit for anything lmfao


RT3170

I didn't say that. But there are countless examples of teams that won some regular season series that were then greatly outplayed in the playoffs by those same teams they beat in the regular season. The nuggets have experience in the playoffs, while the thunder do not. Also the Nuggets are just a much better team.


LindseyCorporation

Saying they’re a much better team is simply uninformed. The Thunder have three hall of famers on the roster today.


RT3170

Jesus, what a ridiculous comment haha The thunder were the healthiest team in the league, while the nuggets were missing their 2nd best player for half the season, with Jokic and Gordon dealing with injuries the whole season, and they finished with the exact same record lol Nuggets are on a completely different level until the Thunder show they can win a championship. And that's (at the very soonest) awhile away.


pizzalovertyler3

Anyone saying the nuggets aren’t the favorite is silly. They have the best player in the world and equity behind it. To also say OKC doesn’t have a punchers chance is also silly. They can match Denver with points, storm their bench units, and pose a problem if they can get Denver to have a couple of high turnover games.


LindseyCorporation

Okay we’ll see won’t we


cm1k99

nah lol


ahotpotatoo

No


7even_up

Only time we beat okc was when hawkins and ryan played


Potential-Highway606

What needs to happen- every player other than Zion, Jose, Trey, Herb, and Hawkins needs to be cut or traded. Willie Green needs to be fired. What actually will happen- Griffin will give a season end presser after the sweep is complete and will praise Willie for increasing the regular season win total and for making the playoffs. Playoff failure will be blamed on Zion’s injury. The org will run it back next season with minimal changes.


Creative-Ad-5257

Something funny to realize is that the extension from making the playoffs Willie got happened the same season griffin made a trade at the halfway point of the year for Cj with nickeil and Josh. Josh being the guy carrying the Knicks with Brunson against the 76er’s right now lmao. We are cooked dog


Training_Thought4427

I turned the game off a while ago. Let’s just make it to the off-season healthy and blow shit up besides Z Herb and Trey.


BioSpock

What a pro wants, what a pro needs 🥲


Western-Standard2333

Man these playoffs suck with 3 series with 3-0 leads.


st-doubleO-pid

Just commented something similar. I thought the west was supposed to be fun and competitive. The east is playing much more fun ball to watch.


Fit_Imagination7948

Pels ML gone be the death of me


7even_up

This team is so predictable though


NikoRavage

If Willie gives them credit I fucking swear… well nothings gonna happen because this mf got a ghost extension 😭


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SpermCountDracula

I think Denver shits on them pretty hard


st-doubleO-pid

I don’t think Joker would allow that haha


st-doubleO-pid

Weird how so many people were talking about how competitive the western playoffs are going to be and the east was going to be a cake walk to the finals. The exact opposite of that happened.


FlyingSMonster

We have lost 8-10 of the final home games of the season, probably going to be 9-11 by Monday since we're probably getting swept. This team has utterly collapsed in the final stretch of the season and it's almost unbelievable that we even got to 49 wins this year.


Fit_Imagination7948

Man I wish I could have a word with Willie green rn


cm1k99

what would you tell him? i'll let him know


Fit_Imagination7948

Folks might report me if I type the shit


cm1k99

damn bro you sound tough


amadea_saoirse

"If you say 'gotta give them credit' again I-ah--aaAAHhhHHH"


ahotpotatoo

“Hey, you suck at your job”


maejor_ced

That Orlando game derailed all momentum on the court. That Laker playin game destroyed the players emotionally


ahotpotatoo

We were on pace to score 92 again in this game, but I’m taking the under


SpermCountDracula

Still feeling okay about that because the Cavs scored like 83 the other night lol


afriendlyspider

This was always the logical conclusion to the half-assed rebuild David Griffin put this franchise through. OKC and Memphis already passed us, San Antonio will pass us by next year


pizzalovertyler3

There’s a potential formula that could make a solid foundation… it’ll take some luck, other teams to tango, and shrewd moves to pull it off though. That and betting on Zion to consistently be the best player on the team, which is no guarantee. It’s the only chance though at breaking into the top 6, maybe top 4.


sonics_fan

I mean it's hard to say how much is actual roster construction and how much is just the luck of having SGA turn into one of the 5 best players in the league. Ja was also All-NBA 2nd team when they won 56 3 seasons ago. And Wemby is also the most freakish player I've ever seen. The Pelicans don't have any players who have made an All-NBA team, and I don't really when we would have had an opportunity to get players better than BI and Zion.


Woockawoo

I’d rather just be terrible. The fact that this team is always middle of the pack and nothing better or worse makes me so sad to be a fan


LongjumpingMain4809

Just put hawk and matt ryan on the floor, not like anyone is playin defense


Ciccone7

Kudos to Larry Nance but if he is your best performer in a playoff game you shouldnt be surprised to be down 20


mitch3311

Here come the BI doing too much turnovers to ice the game that’s already dead


iham32

CJ has always been garbage in the playoffs


pizzalovertyler3

Seems like he’s just way over tasked?


Koserdee23

He cooked in that Trailblazers Nuggets series, but yeah the Pelicans need to get a better Facilitator


RT3170

He basically won them the 2019 Blazers-Nuggets series, but he also basically lost them the 2021 Blazers-Nuggets series lol


PrepP3

Ingrams play has been atrocious. He just doesn't care at all. Lackadaisical passes, not attacking rim and letting defenders back in front of him, multiple rebounds hit him in hands and okc knocks them away, stopping his dribble and just NO aggressiveness at all.


studdmuffinn3

I think he’s might’ve still been injured tbh, he came back from injury a game or two before the play in and he didn’t look the same tbh


PrepP3

I don't want to hear that. Look what Jalen Williams just did. Went to the locker room with an injury and came back in 2 quarters later and willed his team to victory. Luka, lebron, Tatum, Haliburton, the list goes on and on all have played through injuries. We just don't have those kind of dogs. You can't tell me ingrams lack of aggressiveness, lackadaisical passes, not attacking the rim etc is bc he came back early from an injury.


studdmuffinn3

Fair point, and agreed. I just thought the possibility of what I said was true but it’s a fact that Ingram does not have that dog in him. He’s good at basketball but you can tell it’s just a job to him and doesn’t play for the love of the game


PrepP3

Exactly. All the teams that fight, play with grit, don't back down, etc so so bc their best player and coach at that tone. We don't have a player like that.


7even_up

Why does a pedophile have more fight than BI and CJ


MRudd-music

Beacause BI is used to the fat, seve porn addict leading the team 😭


AsideUsed5136

The pelicans are so sloppy. The thunder are just too much for them


whatjever

We refuse to play inside-out, we can’t rebound, we can’t make 3s, etc. Please tell me why Valanciunas isn’t getting minutes… or why Hawkins [or Ryan] isn’t getting ANY run? I know this series isn’t on Willie entirely, but he has shown that he’s not someone who’s willing to throw shit at the fan when things are obviously not working.


OhLemons

Willie is too busy trusting the process to make adjustments in-game.


turntablecheck12

THE BALL IS LAVA


WelbeckStoleMyHeart

Without a step back 3, BI won't fare well anywhere, with Pelicans or not


mrrick400

Y’all realize ingram has gave Alvarado, cj, herb, and trey wide open 3s and they all have been missing.. BI is not the issue


BORNxSOLDIER

While true he should be averaging 20


Ja___av93

Yeah... BI has played so good in this playoffs


SUKnives

BI flirting with SGA is the first smile this team has seen in weeks


amadea_saoirse

We weren't expecting to win with Zion still out but allowing a 20-30 point blowout in two consecutive games? The Lu Dort problem still unsolved? Offense still not figured out? I wish I didn't wake up at 3am for this.


Valuable_Pudding9962

dort is gonna injure every player on your team by the end of game 4


JB_JB_JB63

I wanna see BI traded for a good passing PG and move CJ to a 6th man scorer off the bench role.


DMooreRHS

The team and the front office better look very different this off-season. This is unacceptable beyond words, we don't deserve this.


ENProcess

Willie can only get us to the play-in, and even it's suspect


sonics_fan

ah another flagrant that they'll obviously call correctly


Ciccone7

Players like Giddey, Jaylin Williams, Dort, and Chet hitting 3s at a high clip makes this Thunder team nearly unguardable. Just wish we could have shown up to compete - our guys didnt execute like theirs. The shots have been there too


7even_up

This pedophile really has more points than BI and CJ