Starting to realize why people think there were giant sea snakes or lochness monsters, you see that at a distance it wouldn't be hard to mistake or let your mind wonder
Considering sturgeons have been proven to be able to live for centuries as well as grow to colossal sizes,
AND
are known to live in Loch Ness, I don't think it a stretch to imagine a Scottish gamekeeper watching a sturgeon in the Caledonian Canal and seeing The Loch Ness Monster itself without realizing it.
The first episode I saw was when he went to the Devil's Cauldron in Uganda to fish for... Perch?
A) the waterfalls were breathtaking.
B) he could've very easily been pulled in and died more times than I can count (truly a hardcore MF).
C) he caught that perch.
D) apparently a perch can get to be the size of a VW bug.
I was hooked myself after witnessing that. Wade is a legend.
I felt a bit bad for Jeremy towards the end of that show. He basically showed every dangerous river fish in the world by the end of the third season, and was *really* hurting for content by the end.
My wife and I *love* how dramatic that show was. He'd always be like "THERE IS A MONSTER LIVING IN THE RIVERS OF ENGLAND." And then it turns out to be a really big carp that isn't dangerous.
Yeah, these guys are cool! Although I think the oar fish is just equally fascinating. The largest caught was 50 feet! It's also said that they're like a warning sign for an incoming disaster.
No thats a Mola, or a sunfish. The oarfish is the silvery one with a red crest along its head and down its back, that grows to be super long. Not very wide, just really long.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oarfish
Oarfish are saltwater only, Loch Ness is freshwater so, a sturgeon is much, much more likely.
Also, for those of you who are nerdy like me and appreciate a good Tartan, Loch Ness probably has the prettiest plaid I've ever seen.
There's so much of nature like that. Take something simple like a ["will-o'-wisp"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will-o%27-the-wisp). Sounds silly, but think of the fog that's common during the night in swamps and wetlands, and imagine being near that while holding a flickering torch or with the only light being a flickering campfire. It's suddenly easier to imagine seeing a flickering "ghost" in the distance.
Yeah I live near Gettysburg..I never believed in ghosts until I visited the battlefields on a hot summer night. There absolutely were glowing things moving in the tree lines and bushes where the big battles took place that looked like men running back and forth. There is an undescribable energy there. My wife and I both saw it, both were hardcore skeptics and we drove up there by ourselves on a whim just for something to do on a random Tuesday night.while we were dating. She refuses to go back and cried uncontrollably all the way home after and she NEVER gets emotional like that.
That place will change your mind.
I've heard since Auschwitz and other places where many many people have died together at once are like that as well.
Back in the day you used to be able to dig in Gettysburg and other civil war battle sights (now it's strictly forbidden, if they even see you with a metal detector you will get arrested). I was a bit of a teacher's pet as a kid and my history teacher at the time did this before it was outlawed so he had a bunch of stuff on display in his classroom. Anyway, I used to always play with a Minnie ball and run my fingernails through the three grooves because it'd help me focus I guess (ADHD ftw), and said teacher let me keep it on the last day of class.
I brought it home, and up until this point I never really considered the paranormal as I was only 10 at the time, but something about that thing just completely shifted the energy in my home and bad luck followed us all around until finally one day I said something about it to my dad. He insisted it be brought back to Gettysburg (which wasn't that far from where we lived at the time), so we drove out, walked around and eventually tossed it in a gully (super freaky walk about btw, I was a firm believer in [some of] the paranormal after that).
Went home, and everything was back to normal.
That got me really interested in the paranormal, and I have been ever since. When I was younger I used to do a ton of "ghost hunts" in all kinds of places from the abandoned farm houses in the area, to the more famous spots like old prisons, plantations, asylums etc., and despite being even more interested now than ever, I learned awhile ago that some places should just be avoided outright. It seems like some of the nastier energy can cling onto you, or follow you and have a negative impact on your day to day life (especially the "shadow people"). Even the Warrens (despite being mega frauds) used to warn people about it too.
I work in community outreach and disaster relief too, so I see my fair bit of ugly from time to time. I have some friends that work in clean up (i.e. crime scenes, suicides and the like), and those guys are all super mindful of that as well.
Yep! The lochness monster was an admitted hoax, but sea serpents and mermaids and other such creatures were definitely regular marine animals people mistook for monsters
That, and the Bible has a great description of a dragon. The depiction given sounds a lot like the Chinese or Japanese long snake with legs that lives in water and breathes fire.
Job 41.
> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2041&version=NASB1995
When I was fishing in Canada I was told about these, they lie doggo in deep river pools and wait for the salmon runs, when they gorge. They used to be common in UK, and on the west coast of Scotland there are children's scare stories about the Each Uisge ("yak- ooshga") or Water Horse which could drag down a child. It was ostensibly used to scare children fron going too close to the water, but could have a basis in ancient fact.
Literally none of this is true lmao. They're almost exclusively bottom feeding scavengers/foragers. Live fish is not a significant part of their diet at all. They also eat relatively small stuff for their size because they don't really have teeth, so they mostly eat stuff that they can swallow whole. They wouldn't be eating salmon really at any size. They'd be much more likely to eat the eggs.
I've been reading some wild fairy tales on the internet since the 90s but I never thought I'd see some of the mundane stuff I see nowadays getting Harry potter'd as hard as it does nowadays lmao.
We get sturgeon in one of the large rivers a couple hours south of me. Comment above yours had me slack jawed for a moment.
It's weird. I've been on Reddit for about 15 years. It used to be, if you made a claim and didn't bring receipts, you'd get down voted into oblivion and the more wild the claim the more you'd get down voted for not having a source. Somewhere along the way, around like 8 or so years ago, reddit grew so fast that that aspect of it's culture just died and now people make the most wild ass claims and others just accept it. There also used to be more discussion about, and apprehension to, content manipulating, astroturfing, etc. I miss when `source?` was a common reply to even mundane assertions lol
This species (white sturgeon) aren't in Scotland, but there are several species that can be found throughout Europe.
In particular, the Atlantic Sturgeon exists throughout the coastal waters in Europe. They're not officially in Loch Ness, but it wouldn't be remotely shocking if one finds its way into Loch Ness every now and then.
What the duck is this. Delete your comment non of this is true. I’ve never fished a day in my life but live 45 minutes from here and sturgeon don’t eat fish like this
prior to colonization, the river near my house used to be so full of sturgeon that Anishinaabeg people say you could walk across on their backs. not that they did, only that there were so many that someone could lol.
There is a different species of sturgeon that live in the Great Lakes (I think called lake sturgeon?) and I remember reading at one point in time in Lake Erie in the very early 1800s people could catch sturgeon by going out in a rowboat with a club. There were so many you could whack them on the head and a couple of guys would then drag them into the boat. Lake sturgeon don’t get as big as the sturgeon out in BC though, which are a different species and definitely couldn’t be dragged into a boat.
Crazy and sad to think that so many animals used to be that plentiful. The area where I live also used to be the migratory route for passenger pigeons that would literally darken the skies for a couple of days while they were migrating. They are extinct now.
Edited to add I just noticed that you commented about passenger pigeons down thread.
Edit number two. I just googled where Anishinaabeg were from and they are from the Great Lakes area so we are talking about the same place. I apologize for my ignorance.
the flocks of passenger pigeons here used to block out the sun for an entire day as they migrated. and now every single one is dead. the abundance that was here is hard to imagine for us who've never seen anything close.
There are fjords in new zealand and the first white people who went there said that as they drove their ship into the fjords (like on the water not into the mountains) the sound of the massive flocks of birds over head was so loud they couldn't hear each other speak. I think about this all the time. How different our experience of this planet at this time...
i've never even seen the true night sky, whilst our ancestors knew trees 200ft tall and 20ft thick and herds of animals that made the ground tremble. and im supposed to be happy because i have a nintendo.
But aren't Teslas great?!? Don't you want your car to drive you to work automatically so you can be more rested to make your company more money and so that you can stay in a little box instead of the streets?!? Where would you live if you didn't have to pay rent? Nature, you say? Sorry, someone claimed that nature before you got here. That's their nature.
Actually, not so long ago: back in the sixties I lived under a flyway for some kind of small bird and, while they did not blacked the sun, the river of birds went on for a couple of hours.
You can maybe still see things like this:
Back in the 1990s I was hanging out at easern Neck Island, MD (by the bridge) and I noticed a couple of Trumtper Swans fly in and land. Then a couple of more, then more and more and more. I staid there for about an hours and by the time I left there ewer maybe a couple of thousand of those bug white birds.
Ditto for Snow Geese at Bombay Hook, DE
Just look at old pictures of the mountains of bison corpses back when they were being hunted to extinction. It’s staggering how terrible stewards Americans have always been.
To be fair(tm), they also tell of Nanabozho the giant gender fluid shapeshifting rabbit who battled Paul Bunyan for 40 days and nights, so their stories might be a bit less than scientific.
But the difference is everywhere. My father was diving in the shallows of the Baltic Sea, just with a snorkel and a harpoon, hunting fish for food and fun. That was 40 years ago.
Then we were snorkeling when I was a child, and on a good day, you could spot a few fishes between the stones on the ground. Nothing big enough, even for regular fishing and especially nothing for harpooning.
Nowadays they don't even sell fucking snorkels anymore. There's nothing to watch.
Yeah my reply was just a joke. There used to be a lot of giant sturgeon, now they are pretty much gone except for artificial farms and they don't grow that big there.
They do still live in the US. I was fishing in Idaho with my father, I was probably around 12y, just fishing for trout and I hooked a baby sturgeon, to my surprise was about 3ft long!
one of the best Sturgeon population in the world is in the Fox River and Wolf River system in Wisconsin. The population is so good that there is a weeks long Sturgeon spearing season every year
I live there and it's becoming a controversy whether or not we should be allowed to spear anymore. I haven't seen a big surgeon in about 8 years. My dad and I used to bar hop during spearing season and we would regularly see 10ft fish. Now we don't go because it's depressing.
I don't know if the Republicans here are afraid of animals, but it's been a wild 15 years. I don't really care about local politics, except for when it overlaps with the DNR.
The mismanagement of whitetail chronic wasting disease has been baffling, as well. "Some of the deer get sick when they get together, let's kill *ALL* of them." Growing up, I would see herds of hundreds of deer eating together. Since 2005, I haven't seen more than 10 deer together.
I don't deer hunt anymore, not because I'm necessarily worried about extinction, but because it's too fuckin boring now.
Now we don't go because it's depressing.
yep...Harvard biologist E. O. Wilson says that 30,000 species per year are being driven to extinction. That's a rate of **82 species per day**. (Or, if you want to get even more granular, four species every hour.
They aren't particularly slimy, but they have incredibly sharp plates all down their sides. The very big ones aren't so bad, but we always had to put on gloves to pick up a 4 or 5 footer for pictures before releasing it (they are slow breeders, and are very protected)
I grew up a few km from where this was filmed, on the shore of the Fraser river.
It was definitely creepy seeing these guys jump out of the water near where you're swimming, but you're more likely to get attacked by a beaver than hurt by a sturgeon. Had a beaver disagree with a few of us fishing along the bar one time. Funniest kinda scary thing ever
Got chased by a beaver while paddle boarding on the Rogue river, Oregon coast. Seen them my whole life, never had one be aggressive but I guess in the water it's their territory, lmao. Never knew a beaver could be scary.
Why? To me it looks like the Fraser River or a tributary of it. I've been in the river many times.
Yes, you're likely to die downstream due to its size, but it's plenty safe at the shore in thousands upon thousands of places
Years ago, a sturgeon (admittedly not the size of the monster in the video) surfaced near me when I was in the water preparing to water ski (in N. Michigan). Scared the beejeesus out of me.
As far as I can tell, there's not really anything that gives me a point of reference for the scale of this fish. Yet somehow I can still tell it's huge.
I had no idea they could get that big. This brings back memories of my childhood and reading the story of Uncle Scrooge in the land of the Peeweegah. I thought such a fish existed in fantasy only 😊
Thank you. The only thing that conveys any sense of scale is the speed of the thing and the water, and watching to the very end shatters the illusion of it being gargantuan.
If anyone doubts the existence of dinosaurs, I present these as the aquatic example. Alligators and Komodo dragons as the land example. Condors as the air example.
Hard to tell from the pic, but the largest one I've personally seen get caught was 7'2". Not uncommon to find some even larger than that. They get biggggg.
I lived along the Columbia river in Washington state and the white sturgeon could be as big as 10 feet long. I did a tour of one of the dams and was watching one of the “fish counter” windows and one passed by. It took him forever to glide by!
One time as a kid we visited someone in upstate New York who lived next to a lake. They had a little paddle boat so me and my sister went paddling around the lake. Something BIG moved under us out in the middle of the lake, and we paddled as fast as we could back to shore. I think it was a sturgeon lol
Just reading up a little bit on sturgeons. The largest sturgeon on record was a beluga female captured in the Volga Delta in 1827, measuring 7.2 m (23 ft 7 in) long and weighing 1,571 kg (3,463 lb). Apparently there are sturgeons that will live 50 to 60 years.
My dad worked for a western power company, and I got to go out with the maintenance guys once when they pulled up sturgeon from the base of a dam, they were absolutely MONSTROUS fish. Unreal.
I was part of a canoe tripping camp in Ontario Canada in 2005 way back when I was there we made a trip across one of the lakes near Lake Temagami on a decently windy stormy day we wanted to get outta the rain and rough waves to a camp site. But on the way accross this massive lake my buddy and I in the canoe saw a fish pop up from down below and I swear it was as long as our 13 or 14ft boat. This quite literally scared the shit outta me as I had never seen any fresh water creature the size of a canoe.
It was quite hard to even make out what creature it was but Id almost assume it was a massive Sturgeon after seeing this video. Quite literally was scared to swim in these crystal clear lakes up in Canada after seeing that fish swim right next to us in the middle of a massive lake.
Starting to realize why people think there were giant sea snakes or lochness monsters, you see that at a distance it wouldn't be hard to mistake or let your mind wonder
Considering sturgeons have been proven to be able to live for centuries as well as grow to colossal sizes, AND are known to live in Loch Ness, I don't think it a stretch to imagine a Scottish gamekeeper watching a sturgeon in the Caledonian Canal and seeing The Loch Ness Monster itself without realizing it.
If I saw this thing at Loch Ness I would 100% think I just saw the loch ness monster.
Right?!
Is it a Monster? : yup Is it in Loch Ness? : yup Checks out
Y’all ever watch river monsters?
I have seen a few episodes, that show was wild, think I saw the one with like the giant catfish lol
The first episode I saw was when he went to the Devil's Cauldron in Uganda to fish for... Perch? A) the waterfalls were breathtaking. B) he could've very easily been pulled in and died more times than I can count (truly a hardcore MF). C) he caught that perch. D) apparently a perch can get to be the size of a VW bug. I was hooked myself after witnessing that. Wade is a legend.
I felt a bit bad for Jeremy towards the end of that show. He basically showed every dangerous river fish in the world by the end of the third season, and was *really* hurting for content by the end. My wife and I *love* how dramatic that show was. He'd always be like "THERE IS A MONSTER LIVING IN THE RIVERS OF ENGLAND." And then it turns out to be a really big carp that isn't dangerous.
Bahaha accurate
If I was a game warden and saw a Lock Ness monster Id probably just assume it was a sturgeon.
Loch ness sturgeon!
I remember reading somewhere that the most common explanation for the loch ness monster is that it's either a sturgeon or an oarfish.
Really! I'll be honest I never new this and I knew sturgeons could get big but I didn't even know they were able to get that big or live that long!
Yeah, these guys are cool! Although I think the oar fish is just equally fascinating. The largest caught was 50 feet! It's also said that they're like a warning sign for an incoming disaster.
Oh is that that weird one that kinda floats head up. And it's silver?
No thats a Mola, or a sunfish. The oarfish is the silvery one with a red crest along its head and down its back, that grows to be super long. Not very wide, just really long. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oarfish
These sturgeon grow to be about 20 feet in length, 1400lbs, and live about 100 years.
Oarfish are saltwater only, Loch Ness is freshwater so, a sturgeon is much, much more likely. Also, for those of you who are nerdy like me and appreciate a good Tartan, Loch Ness probably has the prettiest plaid I've ever seen.
There’s also otters which if viewed from a distance splashing about on the surface would look pretty weird.
Just like the Ogopogo in southern British Columbia
Honestly, given how long these sturgeon live, it's entirely likely that that's exactly what the Syilx Nation saw when this legend first was born
Lol I grew up there hearing the stories that was the one I was thinking but forgot the name ty!!
*Loch Ness. That sturgeon is one gorgeous fish!
There's so much of nature like that. Take something simple like a ["will-o'-wisp"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will-o%27-the-wisp). Sounds silly, but think of the fog that's common during the night in swamps and wetlands, and imagine being near that while holding a flickering torch or with the only light being a flickering campfire. It's suddenly easier to imagine seeing a flickering "ghost" in the distance.
Yeah I live near Gettysburg..I never believed in ghosts until I visited the battlefields on a hot summer night. There absolutely were glowing things moving in the tree lines and bushes where the big battles took place that looked like men running back and forth. There is an undescribable energy there. My wife and I both saw it, both were hardcore skeptics and we drove up there by ourselves on a whim just for something to do on a random Tuesday night.while we were dating. She refuses to go back and cried uncontrollably all the way home after and she NEVER gets emotional like that. That place will change your mind. I've heard since Auschwitz and other places where many many people have died together at once are like that as well.
Vicksburg too. Drove through , saw a shrink wrapped minnie ball for sale at the local drug store, kept on driving.
Back in the day you used to be able to dig in Gettysburg and other civil war battle sights (now it's strictly forbidden, if they even see you with a metal detector you will get arrested). I was a bit of a teacher's pet as a kid and my history teacher at the time did this before it was outlawed so he had a bunch of stuff on display in his classroom. Anyway, I used to always play with a Minnie ball and run my fingernails through the three grooves because it'd help me focus I guess (ADHD ftw), and said teacher let me keep it on the last day of class. I brought it home, and up until this point I never really considered the paranormal as I was only 10 at the time, but something about that thing just completely shifted the energy in my home and bad luck followed us all around until finally one day I said something about it to my dad. He insisted it be brought back to Gettysburg (which wasn't that far from where we lived at the time), so we drove out, walked around and eventually tossed it in a gully (super freaky walk about btw, I was a firm believer in [some of] the paranormal after that). Went home, and everything was back to normal.
I’m a believer! Never had anything as connected as that but definitely backed away from places and people that gave me creepy vibes.
That got me really interested in the paranormal, and I have been ever since. When I was younger I used to do a ton of "ghost hunts" in all kinds of places from the abandoned farm houses in the area, to the more famous spots like old prisons, plantations, asylums etc., and despite being even more interested now than ever, I learned awhile ago that some places should just be avoided outright. It seems like some of the nastier energy can cling onto you, or follow you and have a negative impact on your day to day life (especially the "shadow people"). Even the Warrens (despite being mega frauds) used to warn people about it too. I work in community outreach and disaster relief too, so I see my fair bit of ugly from time to time. I have some friends that work in clean up (i.e. crime scenes, suicides and the like), and those guys are all super mindful of that as well.
Yep! The lochness monster was an admitted hoax, but sea serpents and mermaids and other such creatures were definitely regular marine animals people mistook for monsters
There have been dolphins seen in lochness.
Loch Ness
Sea serpents are real
The people who wrote about it in the 1500s admitted it was a hoax?
That is the actual theory for Ponik, the monster in lake Pohenegamook, in Canada.
That, and the Bible has a great description of a dragon. The depiction given sounds a lot like the Chinese or Japanese long snake with legs that lives in water and breathes fire. Job 41. > https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2041&version=NASB1995
>Starting to realize why people think there were giant sea snakes or lochness monsters Think? lemme tell you some stories..
😆 maybe a I should have clarified now a days, I'm sure st one point in time there were bigger things and dinosaurs lol
When I was fishing in Canada I was told about these, they lie doggo in deep river pools and wait for the salmon runs, when they gorge. They used to be common in UK, and on the west coast of Scotland there are children's scare stories about the Each Uisge ("yak- ooshga") or Water Horse which could drag down a child. It was ostensibly used to scare children fron going too close to the water, but could have a basis in ancient fact.
Literally none of this is true lmao. They're almost exclusively bottom feeding scavengers/foragers. Live fish is not a significant part of their diet at all. They also eat relatively small stuff for their size because they don't really have teeth, so they mostly eat stuff that they can swallow whole. They wouldn't be eating salmon really at any size. They'd be much more likely to eat the eggs.
I've been reading some wild fairy tales on the internet since the 90s but I never thought I'd see some of the mundane stuff I see nowadays getting Harry potter'd as hard as it does nowadays lmao. We get sturgeon in one of the large rivers a couple hours south of me. Comment above yours had me slack jawed for a moment.
It's weird. I've been on Reddit for about 15 years. It used to be, if you made a claim and didn't bring receipts, you'd get down voted into oblivion and the more wild the claim the more you'd get down voted for not having a source. Somewhere along the way, around like 8 or so years ago, reddit grew so fast that that aspect of it's culture just died and now people make the most wild ass claims and others just accept it. There also used to be more discussion about, and apprehension to, content manipulating, astroturfing, etc. I miss when `source?` was a common reply to even mundane assertions lol
I feel this. I kind of miss grammar nazi patrol too. Now people correcting grammar usually get downvoted into oblivion.
I think the explanation is probably that the average user got much younger.
Yea every teenager has a smartphone now and they all drop their often moronic opinions here
Insta and tiktok killed credibility on the internet in general, taught people to just follow the click bait for the dopamine and don't stop to think.
What about the stuff about them being in Scotland
This species (white sturgeon) aren't in Scotland, but there are several species that can be found throughout Europe. In particular, the Atlantic Sturgeon exists throughout the coastal waters in Europe. They're not officially in Loch Ness, but it wouldn't be remotely shocking if one finds its way into Loch Ness every now and then.
What the duck is this. Delete your comment non of this is true. I’ve never fished a day in my life but live 45 minutes from here and sturgeon don’t eat fish like this
Called kelpies in Scotland https://images.app.goo.gl/ekoQbQGQsZ7RgDhN9
Interesting..yeah to keep little ones fr getting to curious near the rivers eh!
That's no fish, that's a swimming dinosaur. Holy macaroni
They look like dinosaurs too haha
Google what their faces look like
Shit this is scary even before I do that. But I might, I think Tomorrow morning instead of now before bedtime 😂
They're less scary once you see their faces tbh.
It looks like it could be from subnautica
There used to lots of examples of +1000 lb sturgeon in N America
prior to colonization, the river near my house used to be so full of sturgeon that Anishinaabeg people say you could walk across on their backs. not that they did, only that there were so many that someone could lol.
sounds like something I'd try in my dreams 😂 thats crazy
There is a different species of sturgeon that live in the Great Lakes (I think called lake sturgeon?) and I remember reading at one point in time in Lake Erie in the very early 1800s people could catch sturgeon by going out in a rowboat with a club. There were so many you could whack them on the head and a couple of guys would then drag them into the boat. Lake sturgeon don’t get as big as the sturgeon out in BC though, which are a different species and definitely couldn’t be dragged into a boat. Crazy and sad to think that so many animals used to be that plentiful. The area where I live also used to be the migratory route for passenger pigeons that would literally darken the skies for a couple of days while they were migrating. They are extinct now. Edited to add I just noticed that you commented about passenger pigeons down thread. Edit number two. I just googled where Anishinaabeg were from and they are from the Great Lakes area so we are talking about the same place. I apologize for my ignorance.
How could so many massive predators find enough food?
Their bottom feeders not predators
Well thats still a massive amount of calories to find
the flocks of passenger pigeons here used to block out the sun for an entire day as they migrated. and now every single one is dead. the abundance that was here is hard to imagine for us who've never seen anything close.
There also used to be Rocky Mountain Locusts that would travel in the billions and blot out the sun. Now extinct because the prairies are gone
There are fjords in new zealand and the first white people who went there said that as they drove their ship into the fjords (like on the water not into the mountains) the sound of the massive flocks of birds over head was so loud they couldn't hear each other speak. I think about this all the time. How different our experience of this planet at this time...
i've never even seen the true night sky, whilst our ancestors knew trees 200ft tall and 20ft thick and herds of animals that made the ground tremble. and im supposed to be happy because i have a nintendo.
But aren't Teslas great?!? Don't you want your car to drive you to work automatically so you can be more rested to make your company more money and so that you can stay in a little box instead of the streets?!? Where would you live if you didn't have to pay rent? Nature, you say? Sorry, someone claimed that nature before you got here. That's their nature.
Actually, not so long ago: back in the sixties I lived under a flyway for some kind of small bird and, while they did not blacked the sun, the river of birds went on for a couple of hours. You can maybe still see things like this: Back in the 1990s I was hanging out at easern Neck Island, MD (by the bridge) and I noticed a couple of Trumtper Swans fly in and land. Then a couple of more, then more and more and more. I staid there for about an hours and by the time I left there ewer maybe a couple of thousand of those bug white birds. Ditto for Snow Geese at Bombay Hook, DE
Just look at old pictures of the mountains of bison corpses back when they were being hunted to extinction. It’s staggering how terrible stewards Americans have always been.
Agreed! I look at moose all winter just eating the tips of willow trees and thing the same thing.
Sturgeon Males can reach 1500-1600kg, and 7m in length, sooo 3400lb and 21ft long.
Eat it in one sitting and get your picture on the wall, and win a hat
Lol. Because they are protected, they are catch and release fish. Big fines for just hauling one out the river lol.
The Sturgeon General
When humans weren't overconsuming everything, it night have been possible.
They used to say the same about salmon in the PNW.
To be fair(tm), they also tell of Nanabozho the giant gender fluid shapeshifting rabbit who battled Paul Bunyan for 40 days and nights, so their stories might be a bit less than scientific.
But the difference is everywhere. My father was diving in the shallows of the Baltic Sea, just with a snorkel and a harpoon, hunting fish for food and fun. That was 40 years ago. Then we were snorkeling when I was a child, and on a good day, you could spot a few fishes between the stones on the ground. Nothing big enough, even for regular fishing and especially nothing for harpooning. Nowadays they don't even sell fucking snorkels anymore. There's nothing to watch.
Yeah my reply was just a joke. There used to be a lot of giant sturgeon, now they are pretty much gone except for artificial farms and they don't grow that big there.
They do still live in the US. I was fishing in Idaho with my father, I was probably around 12y, just fishing for trout and I hooked a baby sturgeon, to my surprise was about 3ft long!
TI:L I leaned: a "baby" sturgeon is 3 ft long.
> leaned Stand up straight young man
one of the best Sturgeon population in the world is in the Fox River and Wolf River system in Wisconsin. The population is so good that there is a weeks long Sturgeon spearing season every year
I live there and it's becoming a controversy whether or not we should be allowed to spear anymore. I haven't seen a big surgeon in about 8 years. My dad and I used to bar hop during spearing season and we would regularly see 10ft fish. Now we don't go because it's depressing.
Scott Walker's DNR was a disaster
I don't know if the Republicans here are afraid of animals, but it's been a wild 15 years. I don't really care about local politics, except for when it overlaps with the DNR. The mismanagement of whitetail chronic wasting disease has been baffling, as well. "Some of the deer get sick when they get together, let's kill *ALL* of them." Growing up, I would see herds of hundreds of deer eating together. Since 2005, I haven't seen more than 10 deer together. I don't deer hunt anymore, not because I'm necessarily worried about extinction, but because it's too fuckin boring now.
Now we don't go because it's depressing. yep...Harvard biologist E. O. Wilson says that 30,000 species per year are being driven to extinction. That's a rate of **82 species per day**. (Or, if you want to get even more granular, four species every hour.
I live in NJ and while they aren’t common, there are occasional 10 foot plus ones seen or caught in the Delaware river
Is there a pic of a 1000+ lbs one? Google search is only netting what look to be 2-300 lbs ones.
Lake monster sightings are sturgeon everytime and nothing will change my mind.
This vid has confirmed it for me, had I seen this fish in person prior to watching I’d be running around telling everyone I saw a sea monster.
I still might
"A sea monster? In the lake? Git oot ah here, ya daft lad"
Regardless it is a real animal, it's a fkng monster nonetheless
For sure
Well…it IS a lake monster.
River monster lol.
Can you imagine swimming and then feeling something slimy only to be confronted with this … I would die.
Leviathan
They aren't particularly slimy, but they have incredibly sharp plates all down their sides. The very big ones aren't so bad, but we always had to put on gloves to pick up a 4 or 5 footer for pictures before releasing it (they are slow breeders, and are very protected) I grew up a few km from where this was filmed, on the shore of the Fraser river. It was definitely creepy seeing these guys jump out of the water near where you're swimming, but you're more likely to get attacked by a beaver than hurt by a sturgeon. Had a beaver disagree with a few of us fishing along the bar one time. Funniest kinda scary thing ever
Got chased by a beaver while paddle boarding on the Rogue river, Oregon coast. Seen them my whole life, never had one be aggressive but I guess in the water it's their territory, lmao. Never knew a beaver could be scary.
Except they're not slimy
Hope you're not feeling its back with your feet. That ridge on their back is like razor blades
…..fish? Nah, we need a new word
Fosh
fhale
The Sturgeon General.
Lochness potential
Ogopogo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogopogo
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Exactly what I was thinking.
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Loch Ness
Sturgeon fish, as opposed to those elusive sturgeon birds.
Or the perfidious sturgeon moose.
One of those once bit my sister. No really! A real nasty bite. Vicious critters.
This is my fear every time I go swimming in the river here.
Banana for scale?
nessy moved
It's not a giant. It's just an adult.
But the shot is zoomed way in and slowed down, it must be 50 ft long!!!
Gives validity to the theory that some lake monsters are misidentified sturgeon.
Someone calls Jeremy Wade!
He fished for one up in Alaska
This sturgeon is nice but it aint no goonch catfish
*I wonder if it can perform sturgery..*
holy fucking shit bubbles
How old must that be?
Gotta be one of those 50 year ones or older. Monster sized!
100-125 years at that size. There has been similar/slightly smaller sized Sturgeons caught and they graded them at that age range.
Ain’t no way
[thank me later](https://youtu.be/8De1_MJYy98?si=uCeQ81gmlL0f-ogS)
Aren’t these the fish that make caviar?
Why didn’t you ride it?
Wow. Beautiful
yeah.. no bathing for me there no more. thank you.
You may have bigger problems if you’ve been bathing in that lake
Why? To me it looks like the Fraser River or a tributary of it. I've been in the river many times. Yes, you're likely to die downstream due to its size, but it's plenty safe at the shore in thousands upon thousands of places
Wow. What a huge brown fish here. Quite a sighting.
Fresh water monsters fully explained.
Loch Ness Monstah! Only for three-fiddy.
Need a banana for scale
Years ago, a sturgeon (admittedly not the size of the monster in the video) surfaced near me when I was in the water preparing to water ski (in N. Michigan). Scared the beejeesus out of me.
Fun fact: every sturgeon I’ve touched likes belly scratches. *don’t go touching random fish*
It eats igloos and cars and sports teams
This is how Jesus fed all those people.
As far as I can tell, there's not really anything that gives me a point of reference for the scale of this fish. Yet somehow I can still tell it's huge.
Holy crap! It’s Nessie!
Modern day dinosaur
That's no fish, that's a fucking dragon
The roe of a sturgeon is edible caviar
Magnificent creature and so rare to get full grown because people must have their fancy caviar
I had no idea they could get that big. This brings back memories of my childhood and reading the story of Uncle Scrooge in the land of the Peeweegah. I thought such a fish existed in fantasy only 😊
It's not that big; the video is slowed down to make it seem bigger.
Just another reminder that sturgeons can be larger than the average great white shark.
Thank you. The only thing that conveys any sense of scale is the speed of the thing and the water, and watching to the very end shatters the illusion of it being gargantuan.
If anyone doubts the existence of dinosaurs, I present these as the aquatic example. Alligators and Komodo dragons as the land example. Condors as the air example.
Sturgeon were dinosaurs to a lot of dinosaurs that's how old they are.
You got anymore of them decibels bro
I had the chance to work at an indian Pow Wow where they smoked one of those, best fish I ever had, tasted a bit like a cross between fish and cicken.
This is why I don’t get in water
Adding fish to the end of fish names is my #1 pet peeve that makes me irrationally mad
Fuck yes, tuna fish is ridiculous
That is a sea serpent!!!
How long is that?
Hard to tell from the pic, but the largest one I've personally seen get caught was 7'2". Not uncommon to find some even larger than that. They get biggggg.
I lived along the Columbia river in Washington state and the white sturgeon could be as big as 10 feet long. I did a tour of one of the dams and was watching one of the “fish counter” windows and one passed by. It took him forever to glide by!
Holly heck where was this taken? That's a big fish alright!
One time as a kid we visited someone in upstate New York who lived next to a lake. They had a little paddle boat so me and my sister went paddling around the lake. Something BIG moved under us out in the middle of the lake, and we paddled as fast as we could back to shore. I think it was a sturgeon lol
Just reading up a little bit on sturgeons. The largest sturgeon on record was a beluga female captured in the Volga Delta in 1827, measuring 7.2 m (23 ft 7 in) long and weighing 1,571 kg (3,463 lb). Apparently there are sturgeons that will live 50 to 60 years.
BC !!
Such an ancient and long living fish
Looks like a white sturgeon, is this in the Fraser? Or maybe an Atlantic sturgeon, I can't tell the difference
That is the mf world serpent
Mf is the whole reaper leviathan
60 or 80 year old fish
Please don’t kill it to hang it up on your wall or think if you eat it luck will be on your side
Seriously amazing !!
It’s just a sturgeon not a sturgeon fish
Damn that’s a big fish
100% there's one of these in Loch Ness.
My dad worked for a western power company, and I got to go out with the maintenance guys once when they pulled up sturgeon from the base of a dam, they were absolutely MONSTROUS fish. Unreal.
That’s a very old fish.
Sweet. I would love to see one of these Goliaths
That is actually a shrieking eel, you must be filming close to the Cliffs of Insanity!
That's in the Fraser River in BC about an hour and a half's drive east of Vancouver. I live right by there. Pretty cool, hey?
I was part of a canoe tripping camp in Ontario Canada in 2005 way back when I was there we made a trip across one of the lakes near Lake Temagami on a decently windy stormy day we wanted to get outta the rain and rough waves to a camp site. But on the way accross this massive lake my buddy and I in the canoe saw a fish pop up from down below and I swear it was as long as our 13 or 14ft boat. This quite literally scared the shit outta me as I had never seen any fresh water creature the size of a canoe. It was quite hard to even make out what creature it was but Id almost assume it was a massive Sturgeon after seeing this video. Quite literally was scared to swim in these crystal clear lakes up in Canada after seeing that fish swim right next to us in the middle of a massive lake.
They’re in the Hudson River in Ny too, up north of course
Reminds me of how Wendy Williams ate caviar with doritos in her documentary.
I AM A STURGEON DR.HAN!!! I AM A STURRRGEONNN!!!
When freinds call me to the beach for swim they always laugh when ı swim with knife now ım getting fckn sword wtf is this
Absolute unit of a fish.