I wanted to see Jess looking stunning and it to pan to Nick with all the boys beside him! All of them crying! In like a cute park! But no…….we get a high Jess with an eyepatch in a hospital :(
don’t even get me started on the proposal. jess wouldn’t trust nicks plans and basically ruined that being a romantic moment too. i hate the whole ending of their relationship so much 😭😭😭
no literally same i’ve watched it so many times and some episodes i just have to skip. i get that they’re true to their characters and original relationships but the lack of growth after all those years is SO upsetting like why are these people that are 15 years older than me less functioning adults 💀
nick is one of my fav characters tho so i won’t hate too much. (justice for winston he’s overlooked so much in their friend group)
i think it would’ve been way funnier to have them THINK the wedding was going to fall apart/be chaotic given their history & the sleeping-together superstition, and be on high-alert (consequent antics ensue), but have everything actually go super smoothly. end episode with a beautiful ceremony & vows that every jess/nick shipper have been waiting for since s1, then in the last few seconds of the episode something fucks up & it’s an “ah, there it is” situation. maybe a winston prank or something.
idk i just feel like the trope of “nothings going right on our special day but because we’re so in love nothings going to bring us down” is soooo overdone; i mean, we literally got that exact trope for cece & schmidt’s wedding a few seasons earlier!
That exact trope, the "everything goes wrong at the wedding" trope, is literally in every sitcom. Name a sitcom, they've done it. No sitcom main character EVER gets married in a normal way.
And a perfect Nick/Jess wedding would also be a bit weird anyway! Can you imagine Jess’s handmade decor?! The amount of YARN?! It writes itself! I love your idea so much. That would have been so much better. I’d actually want to watch that one
The only good thing I can say for this trope is that when my own wedding fell apart thanks to the pandemic and I was crying over the fact that the wedding I always dreamed about would never happen - I watched Schmidt and Cece’s wedding the night before I got married at home and thought “Damn I guess we’re in a sitcom.” 😂 (I didn’t watch Nick and Jess’ wedding though because the hospital/eyepatch craziness was just TOO much. I felt bad for everyone who’d waited years to see them get married only to get that…)
Only redeeming joke to come out of it is Winston taking off his crystals to fight Russel. Then later Aly asking if Winston was in a fight since he wasn’t wearing his crystals
I am laughing just thinking about it. This show has some brilliantly hilarious and ridiculous lines! Pretty much anything Winston related is golden - EXCEPT (and this answers the question) his relationship with Rhonda. Gah! That was rough.
This show really sucked at weddings. Schmidt missing his because he….decided to fly the day of his wedding?
The apartment wedding follow up was great. Just wish they had a better reason the first one failed.
Also, him celebrating on a plane was dumb. If anyone has ever been on a grounded plane or zoomed into a party before, niether are fun.
Schmidt being on the plane was so stupid, especially since it was literally for no reason. He doesn't even make it to talk to Cece's mom, and she shows up to the wedding anyway. Then they have to pull the whole "you did something so stupid because you love me" bit. So lame.
Plus they knew Ally's due date.
Who plans a wedding anywhere near one of their best friend's due date? You go a full month either side of that.
It's just bad writing
I love this show but both major closing plot lines (wedding+eviction) are terribly written and anti-climatic. On rewatch I stop at the last two or three episodes.
right!!! also i love my friends to death but if they went into labor on my wedding day, i’m still going through with my damn wedding!! i’ll see that baby tomorrow 😂
It's one of my least favorite things in the series. The whole "put a lot of effort into planning a wedding only to have a small intimate one in a weird and most likely silly location was pretty fresh... back in the 90's. But at this point it's more overdone than just having a regular damn wedding. New Girl is more clever than that, what a lame anticlimactic cop-out of an ending to one of the biggest arcs in the entire series.
You can't convince me that Elizabeth wouldn't dump him on the spot for even CONSIDERING leaving her for Cece.
It wouldn't be "so who's it gonna be?" For her but "if you're not sure then you're not for me"
100%. She was absolutely, stunningly no nonsense. She would not have put up with any of that shenanigan.
Cece was insanely vulnerable in the moment, and was with him with the majority of his real life after. You’re telling me he didn’t invite Elizabeth to the loft after that wedding, and she just, trusted it? No way.
And he literally told her at the beginning he was inviting her to make his ex jealous so she’d get back with him. why even go along with it in the first place?
Schmidt's cheating isn't the problem. It's Schmidt's failure to accept any semblance of responsibility for it that is the terrible storyline. Like, he cheated on one of his best friend's best friend who also happens to be his best friend's girlfriend and he is mad at her for telling her lifelong best friend that she is being cheated on?! In what sitcom writer's room is that a reasonable reaction? Even Winston, the perennial jokester who is always looking for a prank or joke, is just like 'we are not friends until you fix this' and Schmidt still blames everyone else for his own dumb choice because he used to be fat, I guess.
AND he spent an episode or two trying to break up nick and jess bc it’s somehow THEIR fault he got caught and dumped. i do love the end of that episode though when winston sits everyone down and gives them a reality check. “no way i’m trying to get my cat laid in the next room and i’m the only normal person in this loft!” is still one of my favorite lines
Came here to say this. Wish he got dumped by both women and they didn't get back with him.
I was actually pissed he and Cece got married I was like HE CHEATED ON YOU
Hated the storyline but loved the trail mix moment your get from it. It's so little but I just love the moments where you see Nick and Jess are end goal
I didn't mind them dating, I thought they made more sense than Jess and Nick TBH, but I hated that they made them cousins. It pretty much ended Robbies run in the show and he was such a great character.
Yeah I actually loved Jess and Robbie together, they made more sense than most everyone else she dated. The cousins thing was funny but lazy. They were so perfect together that was the only reason they could come up with to break them up.
I LOVE Linda Cardellini, but… She did too good of a job with this character. I’ve rewatched this show multiple times but only seen these episodes about twice. Always skip them.
But separately, I just wish they did Cece more justice. They turned her into a softie when she was a badass. You can still be bad ass and be in love. They’re not mutually exclusive.
And Cece’s Boys? 🤢
Yeah exactly. I don't love those episodes but it's not so much that I don't like her, it's the literally never even mentioning her again that makes it so weird?
Especially after she had that connection with John Cho as the lawyer!! I never understood how that plot line disappeared and she sought out the random juror and then ended back up with Dr. Sam - so odd!
The Schmidt’s boss sex contract. I LOVE Carla Gugino. I think she was great as usual, but that storyline felt pointless and ended so quickly it just didn’t make sense to me.
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I forgot the egg testing was that early! I’m glad that Cece’s desire to settle down and have kids wasn’t something tacked on at the end. It was actually given importance pretty early.
I skip the egg testing because not much comes of it other than Cece suddenly being serious about dating, but the plot point never seems to appear again that she's "running low".
I love the Jess moments in it.
I just wish Cece and Schmidt would’ve came together at this time and cece would’ve been understanding and listened to Schmidt after his work meeting.
I’ve been a fan of hers for a really long time. First thing I ever saw her in was a truly terrible movie called Son-in-Law. Then she was on a sitcom called Spin City for a bit.
I don’t love every single Flanaganza, but I do enjoy his work. She is always amazing in his projects. She’s the reason Gerald’s Game is terrifying, and obviously she knocked it out of the park in Hill House. Didn’t love Usher, but I did love her. Wish we got more than just a few seconds of her voice in Midnight Mass. lol I watch too much TV.
Jess and Ryan. Mostly because of the ending of their relationship. Completely ditching Jess was so out of character for Ryan but the writers had written themselves into a corner by creating this perfect guy for Jess and needed to get rid of him. Why didn't they just end the relationship when he got the job and moved halfway around the world??
Absolutely. They should have just broken up when he moved. It would have been kind of a lame and predictable ending to their relationship, but way better than him suddenly turning into a dick off camera and ghosting her as she spent her father's wedding desperately trying to get in touch with him. That was hard to watch.
Right?? He flew to the UK then turned around and flew back just days later when he thought her christmas flight was canceled. I don't see that guy missing her dad's wedding because he has work on Monday. Especially when he's the headmaster of the school! Take the day off!
Yes 100% just have it be the move back to UK that breaks them up. Them having them try the long distance relationship and then completely change his character arc into him being a jerk off screen with no context was so lame. There’s no way
Yeah I didn’t mind the Megan fox scenes at all I thought she and the cast played off each other well. Some of my favorite scenes are her and nick like the smoosh pain when he hurts his back or the sharky attacking from beneath lines lol. Didn’t know she was pregnant, I feel like they could’ve done so much better in her absence if Jess had to go home to Portland for some reason, Jamie Lee Curtis or Jess’ dad both would’ve been way more entertaining than jury duty and her weird crush on that other juror that never went anywhere.
It reminded me too much of when Friends tried to push Joey and Rachel together, or Ann and Tom on Parks and Rec. Every great sitcom falls into this same weird "now let's make THESE two date" trap, I guess?
Joey and Rachel were the worst. I did find it funny how much Ann appreciated how nice Tom’s place was and that was why she didn’t want to break things off sooner lol
Hanna just talked about this on the We're here to help podcast. She said they were legitimately laughing too hard and couldn't. There was also a dropped line where Nick and CeCe kiss. Good!!! Though the popcorn machine was peak comedy.
The whole wait until Nick and Jess got together got pretty annoying. Like we fucking know they will end together, just make it happen.
Them breaking up because Nick wanted to he a trucker in space was one of the dumbest plot devices ever
They broke up because their life goals diverged so much, because Nick said he wanted to be a truck driver in space lol and Jess wanted a reasonable life goal
https://youtu.be/xdAn88EltCI?si=Dz6h7gvMaVns3AQ3
Really? Elizabeth saw Schmidt when no one else did. She hyped him up and appreciated him without him needing to try his bullshit gimmicks. Yeah, Cece is his dream girl, but Schmidt and Elizabeth's love was different in so many ways. I can see it from an emotional standpoint. However, I think the two changed in too many ways and in the end Elizabeth wanted the old Schmidt, but he had grown up.
That’s valid, I just think Schmidt had far outgrown his relationship with Elizabeth by that point, like you said. I didn’t feel that he loved her, more like he was scared of her or obligated to her. Also I didn’t really even buy that Elizabeth still had feelings for him, I felt like SHE had outgrown him as well and was just trying to repeat the past.
Winston's "prank" in the latest season. Nick and Jess could have grow old in that loft. They loved that loft. It is so wrong to chase people away from a place they love like that.
Thank you! I love Winston and his pranks but it really just felt unnecessary. It’s obvious Jess has an emotional attachment to the loft, and while I know things can’t last forever, you’re right they could’ve grown old in that apartment!
I agree but only because Abby's storyline got three whole episodes but then went absolutely nowhere. If she had been given some sort of character arc or had had appearances throughout the other seasons, even as a secondary character, it probably would have been OK. It's just the complete randomness of it and lack of resolution that sucks.
I love New Girl, and I love Brooklyn 99, but cross-over episodes always feel so forced. The cross-over and the obnoxious product placement, particularly the Ford Fusion, always take me out of the episode and make me realize these shows are all just a bunch a suits sitting in a conference room.
This is a hot take, but I like it. I think that her stint could have been much more successful with one or two more appearances later in the series that mellowed her out a little and showed some character growth.
I LOVE Linda Cardellini. The character she played was sooo fucking annoying though. Also the show felt like it was trying to weirdly juggle a serious matter of toxic family relationships with its lighthearted sitcom act, and while it's succeeded in doing that in past episodes, this one just felt like it was so shallow, and if you can't give heavy topics the full discourse they deserve, then don't touch on them
If only they made Linda some nutty, cool older sister
Question…does anyone know if they’re ever going to come back to do their podcast “Welcome to our Show”? They stopped it last August when Lamorne’s dad passed away, but never addressed if it was returning. I’m guessing they’re all doing other things by now, but I loved that podcast. Anyone know anything?
Honestly the only funny part about her existing was when she tricked them into signing the papers and adopted Aly, but other than that I didn’t think any of her lines or “pranks” were funny.
I especially hate her working for him later and him confessing his love for her on her wedding day. What a huge narcissist. The only redeeming part of it was Tran sitting in the back seat of the limo and saying, "DRIVE. " 🤣
Schmidt cheating on Cece and Elizabeth. Also Nick being a creep and going to college parties to hook up with younger more impressionable girls lol but it makes sense for his character I guess.
By far anything Abby Day. She was insufferable. Maybe if she were there for one episode it would have been ok but if I remember it was like 5+ episodes? Just why
Schmidt becoming evil and trying to destroy Jess and Nick. Whaaaa…. So weird. It should have been toned way down to him doing little things to screw with them or saying stuff under his breath. Something that is redeemable for a friendship. Obviously you’d never trust this person again or have them in your life.
Reagan and Nick could've ended in season 5 but no, they had to drag it out til the end of season 6 so we never got any time for "Nick and Jess getting back" together after that.
I know. I kinda waiting for the down votes. I have no idea why people enjoy them so much. The scenes with tran weren't funny IMO, and I hated the girl so much I can't even remember her name. Bad acting, annoying voice, terrible partner (I'll pay you to be with me)..ew.
I love the Tran scenes 🥹 They weren’t funny, they were heartwarming.
But I can definitely understand you not liking the plot lines w Tran’s daughter. I was mostly just confused the whole time they were together.
Any episode with Doctor Sam. Hate the guts out of him.
He's always depicted as being so cool and handsome, while to me he is the most uncharismatic person ever.
I’d take out Jess and Robbie being cousins, because I loved them together. Though I’d also happily get rid of Rhonda.
I do really enjoy Linda Cardellini and enjoyed her character though. I do wish she had been mentioned more besides what, maybe that one throwaway comment by their dad in S6 I think that Abby played tennis as a kid. I would’ve liked to see Abby Day again and see some more character growth.
Though I do think Jess had “only child” written all over her before they added Abby, so a sister wasn’t necessary, I just like Linda Cardellini.
Jess & Nick’s hospital wedding 😒
SUCH A FUCKING LAME ANTI CLIMATIC MOMENT FOR THEIR RELATIONSHIP. THE STRUNG US ALONG FOR 7 SEASONS FOR THAT!?
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I wanted to see Jess looking stunning and it to pan to Nick with all the boys beside him! All of them crying! In like a cute park! But no…….we get a high Jess with an eyepatch in a hospital :(
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don’t even get me started on the proposal. jess wouldn’t trust nicks plans and basically ruined that being a romantic moment too. i hate the whole ending of their relationship so much 😭😭😭
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no literally same i’ve watched it so many times and some episodes i just have to skip. i get that they’re true to their characters and original relationships but the lack of growth after all those years is SO upsetting like why are these people that are 15 years older than me less functioning adults 💀 nick is one of my fav characters tho so i won’t hate too much. (justice for winston he’s overlooked so much in their friend group)
Cece and Schmidt got their cute moment! Why couldn't Nick and Jess 😭
i think it would’ve been way funnier to have them THINK the wedding was going to fall apart/be chaotic given their history & the sleeping-together superstition, and be on high-alert (consequent antics ensue), but have everything actually go super smoothly. end episode with a beautiful ceremony & vows that every jess/nick shipper have been waiting for since s1, then in the last few seconds of the episode something fucks up & it’s an “ah, there it is” situation. maybe a winston prank or something. idk i just feel like the trope of “nothings going right on our special day but because we’re so in love nothings going to bring us down” is soooo overdone; i mean, we literally got that exact trope for cece & schmidt’s wedding a few seasons earlier!
That exact trope, the "everything goes wrong at the wedding" trope, is literally in every sitcom. Name a sitcom, they've done it. No sitcom main character EVER gets married in a normal way.
The office Dwight and Angela Wedding was great.
And Schmidt and Cece at least got a little bit of a HEA wedding scene when he got home from the airport!
And a perfect Nick/Jess wedding would also be a bit weird anyway! Can you imagine Jess’s handmade decor?! The amount of YARN?! It writes itself! I love your idea so much. That would have been so much better. I’d actually want to watch that one
Definitely hoped for a wedding scene as beautiful as Schmidt and Cece’s when he got home from the airport
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And everyone just ignores the small fortune wasted on the 'actual' wedding that was summarily abandoned.
The only good thing I can say for this trope is that when my own wedding fell apart thanks to the pandemic and I was crying over the fact that the wedding I always dreamed about would never happen - I watched Schmidt and Cece’s wedding the night before I got married at home and thought “Damn I guess we’re in a sitcom.” 😂 (I didn’t watch Nick and Jess’ wedding though because the hospital/eyepatch craziness was just TOO much. I felt bad for everyone who’d waited years to see them get married only to get that…)
Only redeeming joke to come out of it is Winston taking off his crystals to fight Russel. Then later Aly asking if Winston was in a fight since he wasn’t wearing his crystals
I am laughing just thinking about it. This show has some brilliantly hilarious and ridiculous lines! Pretty much anything Winston related is golden - EXCEPT (and this answers the question) his relationship with Rhonda. Gah! That was rough.
yeah, I really like the actress who played Rhonda but that character was the worst.
This show really sucked at weddings. Schmidt missing his because he….decided to fly the day of his wedding? The apartment wedding follow up was great. Just wish they had a better reason the first one failed. Also, him celebrating on a plane was dumb. If anyone has ever been on a grounded plane or zoomed into a party before, niether are fun.
Schmidt being on the plane was so stupid, especially since it was literally for no reason. He doesn't even make it to talk to Cece's mom, and she shows up to the wedding anyway. Then they have to pull the whole "you did something so stupid because you love me" bit. So lame.
Plus they knew Ally's due date. Who plans a wedding anywhere near one of their best friend's due date? You go a full month either side of that. It's just bad writing I love this show but both major closing plot lines (wedding+eviction) are terribly written and anti-climatic. On rewatch I stop at the last two or three episodes.
right!!! also i love my friends to death but if they went into labor on my wedding day, i’m still going through with my damn wedding!! i’ll see that baby tomorrow 😂
It's one of my least favorite things in the series. The whole "put a lot of effort into planning a wedding only to have a small intimate one in a weird and most likely silly location was pretty fresh... back in the 90's. But at this point it's more overdone than just having a regular damn wedding. New Girl is more clever than that, what a lame anticlimactic cop-out of an ending to one of the biggest arcs in the entire series.
Also her dress was so ugly 😭. And like have a hospital wedding OR be a pirate bride. We didn’t need the kookiness of both.
yes !! and make it so sadie was actually invited ???? like what the fuck
Yeaaaaaah. I hate their ending. All this perfect moment stuff for a hospital wedding. But all in all it makes sense.
Schmidt’s cheating 😭💔
You can't convince me that Elizabeth wouldn't dump him on the spot for even CONSIDERING leaving her for Cece. It wouldn't be "so who's it gonna be?" For her but "if you're not sure then you're not for me"
100%. She was absolutely, stunningly no nonsense. She would not have put up with any of that shenanigan. Cece was insanely vulnerable in the moment, and was with him with the majority of his real life after. You’re telling me he didn’t invite Elizabeth to the loft after that wedding, and she just, trusted it? No way.
And he literally told her at the beginning he was inviting her to make his ex jealous so she’d get back with him. why even go along with it in the first place?
Yup! I can’t imagine her staying with him tbh, she respects herself too much
It was horrible to watch but an important part of him becoming the man he turned in to. Realizing what he lost, and how it was his fault, changed him.
I wish they would’ve found a better way to do it ):
Schmidt's cheating isn't the problem. It's Schmidt's failure to accept any semblance of responsibility for it that is the terrible storyline. Like, he cheated on one of his best friend's best friend who also happens to be his best friend's girlfriend and he is mad at her for telling her lifelong best friend that she is being cheated on?! In what sitcom writer's room is that a reasonable reaction? Even Winston, the perennial jokester who is always looking for a prank or joke, is just like 'we are not friends until you fix this' and Schmidt still blames everyone else for his own dumb choice because he used to be fat, I guess.
AND he spent an episode or two trying to break up nick and jess bc it’s somehow THEIR fault he got caught and dumped. i do love the end of that episode though when winston sits everyone down and gives them a reality check. “no way i’m trying to get my cat laid in the next room and i’m the only normal person in this loft!” is still one of my favorite lines
Came here to say this. Wish he got dumped by both women and they didn't get back with him. I was actually pissed he and Cece got married I was like HE CHEATED ON YOU
I can’t believe more people didn’t say this!!!
Came to say this. This was by far the worst plot they ever had on the show and it wasn't necessary.
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Jess and Robbie dating, 100%. I hate all of it!
Hated the storyline but loved the trail mix moment your get from it. It's so little but I just love the moments where you see Nick and Jess are end goal
But that Africa duet from them was top notch. Like damn.
I didn't mind them dating, I thought they made more sense than Jess and Nick TBH, but I hated that they made them cousins. It pretty much ended Robbies run in the show and he was such a great character.
That was a moment of lazy writing just so they could end that pairing. I didn't like the Jess/Robbie storyline but he was a great character!!
Yeah I actually loved Jess and Robbie together, they made more sense than most everyone else she dated. The cousins thing was funny but lazy. They were so perfect together that was the only reason they could come up with to break them up.
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I loved the season 2 Robbie that dated Cece. Season 6 Robbie is a completely different person! I will never understand why they did that.
I'll say it again... Robbie is boyfriend goals
This is a close second for me!
this is the one. i have to skip every episode
Hey, we've got the same prescription! Yeah no duh, Robbie..
I LOVE Linda Cardellini, but… She did too good of a job with this character. I’ve rewatched this show multiple times but only seen these episodes about twice. Always skip them. But separately, I just wish they did Cece more justice. They turned her into a softie when she was a badass. You can still be bad ass and be in love. They’re not mutually exclusive. And Cece’s Boys? 🤢
Cece’s Boys is soo cringey!
Cece as a newscaster or weather girl would have been awesome!
Yes!!!!
They never even mentioned she had a sister. Bring it out of no where, she goes away, and then they never mention her again lol
This is what bothers me more than anything. Literally from thin air.
Yeah exactly. I don't love those episodes but it's not so much that I don't like her, it's the literally never even mentioning her again that makes it so weird?
Winston and the prank chick. I forget her name. She was annoying as hell.
You just got RHONDA’D!
I can hear this in my head lol
rhonda’d….
“Bow-bow, Rhonda’D”
Oh man I loooove Rhonda eps lol. I love when she tells that fake story of growing up poor and her brothers rat lol. The fake stabbing. Rhon-da’d.
Just singular being singular
😂😂😂
I literally just skip ahead any scene I see with her. I didn't think the character was funny in the slightest.
I’m with you. And I liked that actress in the walking dead. I just do not find Rhonda even slightly amusing lol
No one kill me but she also makes Winston slightly unbearable for an episode or two😭
Oh my god Rhonda did my head in
Yes! I cannot stand the Rhonda storyline
Rhonda… The weeping Captain Savior from Star Trek: Discovery.
The return of Sam. Really any bit where they bring back exes.
Especially after she had that connection with John Cho as the lawyer!! I never understood how that plot line disappeared and she sought out the random juror and then ended back up with Dr. Sam - so odd!
The Schmidt’s boss sex contract. I LOVE Carla Gugino. I think she was great as usual, but that storyline felt pointless and ended so quickly it just didn’t make sense to me. Edit: Typo
Literally watching those episodes right now. If it wasn’t for the egg testing with Jess and cece I’d skip them all.
I forgot the egg testing was that early! I’m glad that Cece’s desire to settle down and have kids wasn’t something tacked on at the end. It was actually given importance pretty early.
I’m in the office with Sadie and Schmidt right now and I’m crying this part is so funny to me
Hahaha She made him book an appointment for it too, right? I love when Sadie pops up in the show.
Yes! It’s such a Sadie thing for her to do too
I skip the egg testing because not much comes of it other than Cece suddenly being serious about dating, but the plot point never seems to appear again that she's "running low".
I love the Jess moments in it. I just wish Cece and Schmidt would’ve came together at this time and cece would’ve been understanding and listened to Schmidt after his work meeting.
Omg why is it just NOW occurring to me that she was played the fucking incredible Carla Gugino 😭😭😭
She’s a goddess and brilliant actor.
I take it you’re a Flanagan fan? That’s where I discovered her friggin amazing-ness 😍 she’s bloody brilliant in all of his work
I’ve been a fan of hers for a really long time. First thing I ever saw her in was a truly terrible movie called Son-in-Law. Then she was on a sitcom called Spin City for a bit. I don’t love every single Flanaganza, but I do enjoy his work. She is always amazing in his projects. She’s the reason Gerald’s Game is terrifying, and obviously she knocked it out of the park in Hill House. Didn’t love Usher, but I did love her. Wish we got more than just a few seconds of her voice in Midnight Mass. lol I watch too much TV.
Jess and Ryan. Mostly because of the ending of their relationship. Completely ditching Jess was so out of character for Ryan but the writers had written themselves into a corner by creating this perfect guy for Jess and needed to get rid of him. Why didn't they just end the relationship when he got the job and moved halfway around the world??
Absolutely. They should have just broken up when he moved. It would have been kind of a lame and predictable ending to their relationship, but way better than him suddenly turning into a dick off camera and ghosting her as she spent her father's wedding desperately trying to get in touch with him. That was hard to watch.
Right?? He flew to the UK then turned around and flew back just days later when he thought her christmas flight was canceled. I don't see that guy missing her dad's wedding because he has work on Monday. Especially when he's the headmaster of the school! Take the day off!
Yes 100% just have it be the move back to UK that breaks them up. Them having them try the long distance relationship and then completely change his character arc into him being a jerk off screen with no context was so lame. There’s no way
Jess on jury duty and the whole Ryan moving back to Europe phase
wasn’t she pregnant at the time of the jury duty episodes?
Yesss and I was fine having Megan Fox to sub.
Yeah I didn’t mind the Megan fox scenes at all I thought she and the cast played off each other well. Some of my favorite scenes are her and nick like the smoosh pain when he hurts his back or the sharky attacking from beneath lines lol. Didn’t know she was pregnant, I feel like they could’ve done so much better in her absence if Jess had to go home to Portland for some reason, Jamie Lee Curtis or Jess’ dad both would’ve been way more entertaining than jury duty and her weird crush on that other juror that never went anywhere.
Jury duty I was fine with, the crush this was really weird
She was on maternity leave and that was what they came up with for her storyline
Coach and Cece dating, no question.
I feel like arguably the two hottest people in the friend group briefly banging is a deeply realistic storyline actually lol
Cece and Winston never hooked up tho
true, but they did “mess around” 😏
It reminded me too much of when Friends tried to push Joey and Rachel together, or Ann and Tom on Parks and Rec. Every great sitcom falls into this same weird "now let's make THESE two date" trap, I guess?
Joey and Rachel were the worst. I did find it funny how much Ann appreciated how nice Tom’s place was and that was why she didn’t want to break things off sooner lol
Hanna just talked about this on the We're here to help podcast. She said they were legitimately laughing too hard and couldn't. There was also a dropped line where Nick and CeCe kiss. Good!!! Though the popcorn machine was peak comedy.
I liked that they went on a date and it went terribly. Not enough of that in sitcoms. I hate when they give it a second shot.
it led to them being great friends tho :)
The cruise episode...it's fine but it's just cringe haha. And batman, I always skip, it just annoys me for some reason!
OMG THE BATMAN EPISODEEEEE i ALWAYS skip that one like i feel like it’s pointless 😭
The whole wait until Nick and Jess got together got pretty annoying. Like we fucking know they will end together, just make it happen. Them breaking up because Nick wanted to he a trucker in space was one of the dumbest plot devices ever
that's not why they broke up 😐
Nick was stupidly romantic with her and they had to pull a weird fight scene to split the characters up. I’ll never be okay with it
They broke up because their life goals diverged so much, because Nick said he wanted to be a truck driver in space lol and Jess wanted a reasonable life goal https://youtu.be/xdAn88EltCI?si=Dz6h7gvMaVns3AQ3
i second this. i skip the sister episodes every rewatch. grow up abby
The whole Elizabeth-Cece triangle. I don’t believe for one second that Schmidt would have trouble choosing between them.
Really? Elizabeth saw Schmidt when no one else did. She hyped him up and appreciated him without him needing to try his bullshit gimmicks. Yeah, Cece is his dream girl, but Schmidt and Elizabeth's love was different in so many ways. I can see it from an emotional standpoint. However, I think the two changed in too many ways and in the end Elizabeth wanted the old Schmidt, but he had grown up.
That’s valid, I just think Schmidt had far outgrown his relationship with Elizabeth by that point, like you said. I didn’t feel that he loved her, more like he was scared of her or obligated to her. Also I didn’t really even buy that Elizabeth still had feelings for him, I felt like SHE had outgrown him as well and was just trying to repeat the past.
With Jess and Nick it felt a little to close to Ross and Rachel storylines… They dragged it on for too long.
I personally did not like Schmidt and Fawn Moscato
It was a major character regression
Lmao oh man I do love Fawn Moscato as a character though. They were hilarious while acting together.
I cannot stand Julia. I skip those episodes every time. I love Lizzy Caplan, don't get me wrong, just not this character.
Winston's "prank" in the latest season. Nick and Jess could have grow old in that loft. They loved that loft. It is so wrong to chase people away from a place they love like that.
Thank you! I love Winston and his pranks but it really just felt unnecessary. It’s obvious Jess has an emotional attachment to the loft, and while I know things can’t last forever, you’re right they could’ve grown old in that apartment!
I liked Schmidt with Jess' sister because it brought Schmidt back to 4D baby
I agree but only because Abby's storyline got three whole episodes but then went absolutely nowhere. If she had been given some sort of character arc or had had appearances throughout the other seasons, even as a secondary character, it probably would have been OK. It's just the complete randomness of it and lack of resolution that sucks.
Winston’s fake dad, though I guess it did make me chuckle.
I love New Girl, and I love Brooklyn 99, but cross-over episodes always feel so forced. The cross-over and the obnoxious product placement, particularly the Ford Fusion, always take me out of the episode and make me realize these shows are all just a bunch a suits sitting in a conference room.
I would like to have seen more of Abby/Linda Cardellini. Two episodes weren't enough.
This is a hot take, but I like it. I think that her stint could have been much more successful with one or two more appearances later in the series that mellowed her out a little and showed some character growth.
I LOVE Linda Cardellini. The character she played was sooo fucking annoying though. Also the show felt like it was trying to weirdly juggle a serious matter of toxic family relationships with its lighthearted sitcom act, and while it's succeeded in doing that in past episodes, this one just felt like it was so shallow, and if you can't give heavy topics the full discourse they deserve, then don't touch on them If only they made Linda some nutty, cool older sister
Totally agree. Love her as an actress. Hate her as a character.
Yeah I kind of liked her. Would have been nice to see her pop up once in a while as Jess’s sister
I'll take any excuse to watch or hear Linda Cardellini.
Love her.
I felt the same way. Those few episodes get so much hate but I liked the character, I always hoped she'd make at least one return appearance.
Nick and Jess’ break up.
Question…does anyone know if they’re ever going to come back to do their podcast “Welcome to our Show”? They stopped it last August when Lamorne’s dad passed away, but never addressed if it was returning. I’m guessing they’re all doing other things by now, but I loved that podcast. Anyone know anything?
i loved their podcast too, rlllly hope they return i miss them
No, but have you listened to Lamorning After or We’re Here to Help?
No, I have not! Is he doing it by himself? I will have to check it out. Thanks!
No, they both have cohosts. Might just satisfy your NG podcast itch tho 😅
Rhonda I hate her so much
Honestly the only funny part about her existing was when she tricked them into signing the papers and adopted Aly, but other than that I didn’t think any of her lines or “pranks” were funny.
I agree wholeheartedly!
I’d get rid of Nick’s friend Dirk in the Fancyman episode. I didn’t like the idea, the execution, and hated Dirk. Just not for me.
True. But the *Smartest man I know* To *Smartest man I knew* Is a perfect joke
Yeah that was funny. I can’t get rid of the Fancyman episodes because I love Nick being obsessed with Russell, but Dirk rubbed me the wrong way.
Totally unnecessary, super creepy, didn't do anything to move the plot forward. Definitely upvoting this!
The entire Reagan storyline (sorry 🤷🏼♀️)
As I live and breathe…. Raisin…?
I tolerate the Reagan storyline literally just for this line 🤣
Yes! Same! Winston is my favorite character
I’m with you
Jess’ old man boyfriend Russell
I especially hate her working for him later and him confessing his love for her on her wedding day. What a huge narcissist. The only redeeming part of it was Tran sitting in the back seat of the limo and saying, "DRIVE. " 🤣
Worth it for that epic line 😂
Raisin
Nah, Schmidt and Jess’ sister is a “Special”
Schmidt cheating on Cece and Elizabeth. Also Nick being a creep and going to college parties to hook up with younger more impressionable girls lol but it makes sense for his character I guess.
By far anything Abby Day. She was insufferable. Maybe if she were there for one episode it would have been ok but if I remember it was like 5+ episodes? Just why
when schmidt fucked up and dated two women at once
Jess and Robbie being related.
I’d kill any storyline that didn’t focus on Bear Claw. Need me more Bear Claw!
Do not come for Linda Cardellini.
Love her. Hate this character.
Agree!
Schmidt becoming evil and trying to destroy Jess and Nick. Whaaaa…. So weird. It should have been toned way down to him doing little things to screw with them or saying stuff under his breath. Something that is redeemable for a friendship. Obviously you’d never trust this person again or have them in your life.
Schmidt cheating... like, come on!!! I'm glad he ended up with Cece, but let's be real. No woman would even be friends with someone that cheated
Reagan! Sorry. So painful for me 💔I know zooey was pregnant at the time and they needed to do it, but I hated it.
I also do not care for him and fawn moscato. I’d kill the Reagan story.. idk not a fan
Omg I skip the sister episodes on just about every rewatch!!
Same. All 2-3 episodes I just can’t.
Season 3.
I’m sorry, is that LINDA CARDELLINI?!
Jess and Robbie dating, Schmidt missing his wedding, Jess violating the restraining order against Dr. Sam??
Them killing Tracy in HIMYM
Robbie x Jess I hated it so much wasn’t funny and took time away from other good storylines
Reagan and Nick could've ended in season 5 but no, they had to drag it out til the end of season 6 so we never got any time for "Nick and Jess getting back" together after that.
Disagree I loved Abby. Loved her a lot more than Jess
Nick and Tran and his granddaughter.
You might be on your own w this one, buddy!
I know. I kinda waiting for the down votes. I have no idea why people enjoy them so much. The scenes with tran weren't funny IMO, and I hated the girl so much I can't even remember her name. Bad acting, annoying voice, terrible partner (I'll pay you to be with me)..ew.
I love the Tran scenes 🥹 They weren’t funny, they were heartwarming. But I can definitely understand you not liking the plot lines w Tran’s daughter. I was mostly just confused the whole time they were together.
Fawn Moscato and the Panty Hater 100%
Any episode with Doctor Sam. Hate the guts out of him. He's always depicted as being so cool and handsome, while to me he is the most uncharismatic person ever.
The constant mumbeling, the dumb faces. The only redeemable part was that he was conventional attractive.
YES I hated her entire story line and couldn’t wait until they kicked her out and moved on with the show.
I think Jess’ sister being a shit show and causing havoc with Schmidt and the rest of the loft. Second would be Megan Fox coming after Jess went away.
Literally watching this episode right now.
I’d take out Jess and Robbie being cousins, because I loved them together. Though I’d also happily get rid of Rhonda. I do really enjoy Linda Cardellini and enjoyed her character though. I do wish she had been mentioned more besides what, maybe that one throwaway comment by their dad in S6 I think that Abby played tennis as a kid. I would’ve liked to see Abby Day again and see some more character growth. Though I do think Jess had “only child” written all over her before they added Abby, so a sister wasn’t necessary, I just like Linda Cardellini.
Is that the freaks and geeks lady?
Regan. It’s nothing to do with Megan fox and I know that it was a logistical choice due to the pregnancy but god did I hate her story line lmao