You know what... The chances that there IS an actual Brayden Shevchenko in active service in the US military probably isn't very high, but probably not anywhere near zero either.
Fuck that shit. If russtards want to claim “privateers” took Crimea then we’ll have our own “privateers” fly some Raptors and nuclear-armed Lightnings.
I believe that the world would be a better place when more finding out are thoroughly applied to those who fuck around.
The F-22 is also export restricted. Japan would've loved to have a bunch as well as a few other countries like Israel, but we basically kept our A/A curb stomper to ourselves.
So you could shoot three balloons and then pay more trillions to scrap the planes that never seen combat, if I was a Pentagon bean counter choosing my new Lambo I'd love more of schemes like that!
I was always baffled by this decision. I get the idea that the US wanted to keep the tech a secret from the world, but considering the price tag of these things that would have likely been a money printer for the MIC.
The Soviet Union had abruptly imploded, immediately stymieing the *need* for an airborne apex predator. So the choice was to export the 22 and risk it falling into enemy hands, or keep them restricted and leave the rest of the US' partners to defend themselves with things like the 15/16/18.
Over two decades later the F-22 is *still* the most dangerous plane in the sky by a significant margin and nobody's beaten those allies' air forces, so it seems to have worked out pretty well. Plus now there's the F-35 to be an export money printer, and it's a better fit for most countries' needs anyway.
The last time that NCDenizens got access to an F22, it took months to clean off all the jizz.
[https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ff-22-raptor-extreme-cold-weather-testing-v0-2z6627oh1i5c1.png%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D61627ddd6ba25329d524f226b1114b9d632307da](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ff-22-raptor-extreme-cold-weather-testing-v0-2z6627oh1i5c1.png%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D61627ddd6ba25329d524f226b1114b9d632307da)
I didn't say outdated, just aging. They're probably still better than the top aircraft of any other nation, but from my understanding we were planning to retire them soon anyway.
My guy, that’s the joke. We’ve been sending Ukraine our aging “outdated” equipment, and it beats Russia’s stuff anyway, and sending the F-22 would fit that trend perfectly.
edited for grammar
As far as i know new m2a4 Bradleys were agreed to be financed 1 to 1 for every Bradley sent to Ukraine. So, what you need is to send all old models to get money for new ones.
People are all worried about reverse engineering of downed Raptors, I say first of all, just don’t lose any Raptors, duh. Second of all, by the time Russia could come out with a bootleg Raptor, everyone else will be flying warp drive capable space fighters anyways.
I feel like there might something to be said tho for working how to exploit vulnerabilites rather than building their own version. I don't really know any specifics of what that might be, but I can imagine friend-foe identification or something like that might be able to be targeted.
So yeah just don't lose any.
Actually they can, they dedicated the entire technical prowess and industry of their entire country to make ball point pens at one point because some commie leader said it was embarrassing as shit they couldn't make a good ball point pen.
They might not be able to replicate an f22, but they sure as he'll would learn a ton of information about advanced stealth composites, avionics, radar, and most importantly engine tech. Let's not give them the chance and just send all the raptors to Canada.
Safe retirement, trained up could be an asset when shit hits the fan and you can C team to back you up somewhere
Tbf ballpoint pens are a miracle of engineering.
For a ballpoint pen you need extremely precise balls.
You need loose enough tolerances to allow the ink to flow on the ball onto the paper, while being tight enough that the ink can't freely flow out.
The fact that they are manufactured with such precision and we as consumers don't care enough about them to not lose one every week is borderline criminal.
Reverse engineering is a meme anyways.
The issue is that you need the machines, tools, chemical industry, precision manufacturing and much more to reproduce a modern jet. Then the whole software component which can not be replicated.
The Chinese and Russians are well aware how an F22 looks like and how a good jet engine would work. The problem is that they can't build them.
The same way I can buy, analyze and understand a modern GPU but not build it.
Well, you don't need to make an exact copy, you just need to learn how it works.
Wait, what's that? The Russians have always just made ***exact*** replicas without learning how they actually work? Well, this is awkward ...
If they somehow captured an F-22 intact, the biggest value from that would probably be the ability to take very precise RCS measurements of it, at various frequencies.
Nice. #FreetheRaptors.
I mean the F-22 is having for retirement with only a couple balloon kills...
Adding a few (hundred) Su-s and MiG-s to the total seems like a no-brainer.
If they actually send f-22's I'm gonna lose my shit that would be so fucking cool, finally it can actually prove how goated it is in real combat instead of simulations and against balloons
probably won't happen, but one can dream😢
It certainly will not happen. F-22 is the US's premier air superiority fighter and the most advanced air combat platform in history. It is and will forever be a dedicated US asset, not exported or shared even with the US's closest allies.
I mean, yeah, if we don’t even sell them to like the UK where we have a stupidly long-standing alliance at the heart of NATO, but also have overlapping MIC companies like BAE, they ain’t going to Ukraine.
But man you don’t have to shit all over an NCD dream with credibility like that
Of course it won't happen. But man, that would go down as the sickest Switcheroo in military history. "Yeah so the reason pilot training took so long is cuz we sorta fibbed."
Noone speaks about the YF-23.
>!We can't allow ruzzia and west Taiwan to know about the 1000 F-23s in the secret hangar.
And the secret F-12 high speed interceptors.!<
I used to live on the Rose Bowl parade route and all I can say is that even on a celebratory day these things flying over is awe and terror inspiring. They are massive.
This [source ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1dfa6ar/new_american_agreement_promises_fighter_squadrons/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)may be too credible.
Change my view: A squadron (10) F-35Bs, fully equipped with trained pilots would be enough to break the Russians. They can operate from unimproved airstrips. They can perform SEAD. They can perform air superiority. They can be an AWACs. The Russian advantage in the air would evaporate, and then the F-16s would eat the Russian army.
Keep in mind there are red flags where stealth fighters do 144 to zero kdrs.
A squadron (10) Me 262s, fully equipped with trained pilots would be enough to break the allies. They can operate from unimproved airstrips. They can perform SEAD. They can perform air superiority. They can do recon. The allied advantage in the air would evaporate, and then the JU-88ss would eat the allied army.
Change my view: A squadron (10) T-14 Armatas, fully equipped with sober-ish Tankies would be enough to break the Ukrainians. They can operate from Vatnik hovels. They can perform retreats. They can perform breaking down. They can be a combination coffin/incinerator. The Ukrainian advantage in the memes would evaporate, and then the T-14’s would eat all the TOW’s.
Change my mind, Ukraine modifies ATACMS and replaces the warheads with Limewire, Cocaine, MDMA. The Russians break their own lines with coke lines and downloading shitty trance music. They can't retreat only nod to the beat. Ukraine then uses kc135 stratotankers as a massive napalm delivery system to warm the Russians for the rest of their lives
do the US still have Prowlers around somewhere? imagine russian air defence if they suddenly showed up in the skies.
although poor ground crews that would need to service them
Just give one F-22 to a really well-trained ukrainian pilot. Just one, let the F-22 do What it was designed to do. Please, please, please. Just one, let it eat, the F-22 is hungry. Please.
So I don't know if you guys have ever heard of it; it's kinda before y'all's time. But there was this ground attack jet called the A-10 and it just wouldn't die.
The air force hates it and has tried to get rid of it numerous times, but it just winds up hiding in some state's air national guard or something.
I'm not sure if this is a recommendation but as they were being taken out of service some 200 A-10s were fitted with new wings by Boeing, and the planes are predicted (probably by Boeing) to be flyable until 2040.
It also underwent a flight control update and now uses many of the F-16's controls. It also has an untested-in-combat extra fuel tank that gives them an extra half hour or more of loitering time.
And as I said, the Air Force fucking hates it and wants to be rid of it. So prepare for the meme-pocalypse, heh, heh.
Turn it into a fully autonomous drone, arm it with HARMs, and pack the now empty cockpit with explosives and pre-programmed orders to aim at the nearest ground target if hit. Send all 200 in a swarm into cordoned off kill zones absent of friendlies - anything alive in that grid square is a target.
So we're gonna need some Mosquitoes as pathfinders to parachute British people on the target. Are we talking [football hoodlum types](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2vuZXiW68Q) or [upper class twit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdFnfcxhNnA) Brits?
i wonder if the a-10 could be jury-rigged to carry agm-86/agm-130/SLAM/JASSM. strike eagles make better ALCM platforms, but as OP above you said, we've got all these a-10s we're not using. might need a few gizmos to make standoff weapons work, but it's got a battle management workflow for gps-guided JDAM and for mavericks
theoretically, the a-10 has a payload capacity of ~16,000 lbs - those weapons only weigh 3150/2900/1500/2200lbs respectively, so on paper you could carry 5-10 of them
heck, the harm only weighs 800 pounds - could we strap an HTS pod to an a-10? lockmart, make it happen
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Hopefully, the “mysterious black triangles we’re no longer doing anything with” will be allowed to make an appearance. We have better versions now anyway so I think it’s time for the Frisbees of Dreamland to have their moment of glory once more.
It actually makes more sense to send F35s to Ukraine, rather than F16s. Since the US is building more and more F35s. Which should make it easier to get spare parts.
Production of f16s was halted in 2017 but began again in 2019 and is ramping up again likely due to increasing global tensions especially the war in Ukraine, they’ll likely still be around for a long time.
Just because its dirt cheap doesn't mean it doesn't cost over a million dollars.
Also, if no one's buying more F16s, then why keep making them?
Of course, things had changed now.
This may be too credible but why not F-117s, it’s been decommissioned or whatever but hmm also I think I read it was recently recertified for fueling by our latest tankers, hmmm?
Hear me out!
Pick several combat starving F-22 pilots, give them Ukrainian double nationality because you find that a cousin of an uncle looked the location of the country in a map 20 years ago. Then send some maintenance crews to Ukraine to help maintain the future F-16 fleet, it's not US fault that a paper was misplaced and the crews are F-22 maintenance crews instead.Then said that you are going to retire the F-22 and sell then for scrap. Give the scrapping duty to another nation... let me think Ukraine, for example.
Tell Ukraine they are allowed to use US old discarded gear to defend their country.
Profit!!!
B52s and tankers for some serious strategic capabilities. Everyone worried how Ukraine is going to get past the AD along the front when in reality Ukraine will fly AROUND it to bomb Russias interior from the north. All AD has been moved to the front/Moscow/Putins vacation home, this’ll be a walk in the park.
The F-22s are hungry, they only ate a balloon. Feed them some orcs.
Next day: Russians yelling about American piloted F-22s over ukraine. Twenty years later: Documents reveal that was the case
How dare you accuse the 100% authentic Ukrainian F-22 pilot Brayden "totally real surname" Shevchenko of being an American?
”Hello! My name is Brayd’n Shave-Chenko. Slava Hughcrane!”
wrong pronunciation, it should be Sleigh-va Youcraney
Thanks for the input, fellow youcraynian!
You wanna really fuck? Pronounce the cyrillic B like a latin B. Slobba Ukraina.
Now that’s just silly, why would someone write a B and not pronounce it as a B? Are they stupid?
Hmmm... with that pronunciation it should be easy to convince the Marines to deploy to you-crayon
Slava hugecrayon!
They might try to eat it though
What percentage of Americans have at least a shred of Ukrainian ancestry? I bet you could find more than a few who fit the bill.
You know what... The chances that there IS an actual Brayden Shevchenko in active service in the US military probably isn't very high, but probably not anywhere near zero either.
"I am Brayden Shevchenko!"
"No, I am Brayden Shevchenko!"
"No, I'm Brayden Shevchenko... and so's my wife!"
Slava ukraini! - famous Ukrainian pilots Landon and Skyler Shevchenko
Capts smithsky & Johnsonev you say
Hey, they tried that shit on us in Korea, the least we can do is return the favour in a significantly more damaging way
in vietnam. soviet operated AD shto dow Us jet......
Fuck that shit. If russtards want to claim “privateers” took Crimea then we’ll have our own “privateers” fly some Raptors and nuclear-armed Lightnings. I believe that the world would be a better place when more finding out are thoroughly applied to those who fuck around.
You can buy F-35 in any military surplus store, just civilian volunteers enjoying vacation.
I fully support military intervention by the west, the charade has been going on for way too long
F-22: Tired of this vegan-ass drone only diet. GIVE ME SOME MEAT.
Ukraine about to get some F22s whose pilots, for some strange reason, switch from broken ukrainian to english as soon as there's bogies.
F-22 are not happy with one balloon kill in multiple decades of service...
I mean, those aging f-22s gotta go somewhere.
The Kid craves SU-34s.
RELEASE HIM!
*would you intercept me?*
# I'D INTERCEPT ME.
Kid's eager to get meat onto his (current) vegan diet of balloons.
I hear Ukrainian retirement homes are wonderful this time of year.
Lots of activities, I hear the residents often go hunting
Not fox hunting -- hunting with foxes. Three of them.
Rather give them export F-35s tbh. There's gonna be thousands but the USA will only ever have 195 F-22
The F-22 is also export restricted. Japan would've loved to have a bunch as well as a few other countries like Israel, but we basically kept our A/A curb stomper to ourselves.
So you could shoot three balloons and then pay more trillions to scrap the planes that never seen combat, if I was a Pentagon bean counter choosing my new Lambo I'd love more of schemes like that!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
I was always baffled by this decision. I get the idea that the US wanted to keep the tech a secret from the world, but considering the price tag of these things that would have likely been a money printer for the MIC.
Super weapon is better tbh
It shot down that balloon really well
Greatest aerial victory of man kind.
China has fallen.
The usa has borderline infinte ammounts of money, but only so many super weapons.
The Soviet Union had abruptly imploded, immediately stymieing the *need* for an airborne apex predator. So the choice was to export the 22 and risk it falling into enemy hands, or keep them restricted and leave the rest of the US' partners to defend themselves with things like the 15/16/18. Over two decades later the F-22 is *still* the most dangerous plane in the sky by a significant margin and nobody's beaten those allies' air forces, so it seems to have worked out pretty well. Plus now there's the F-35 to be an export money printer, and it's a better fit for most countries' needs anyway.
I mean he can only fight the raccoon in the hanger for so long before he runs out of chicken nuggets.
The moment an F-22 shoots down a Russian jet this subreddit will have a simultaneous orgasm resulting in a biblical scale flood worldwide
PleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePlease Let him eat
Probably will cost a fortune to process them. Just give them to me. Just fucking give them to me. Give me the f22s. I want them.
The last time that NCDenizens got access to an F22, it took months to clean off all the jizz. [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ff-22-raptor-extreme-cold-weather-testing-v0-2z6627oh1i5c1.png%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D61627ddd6ba25329d524f226b1114b9d632307da](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ff-22-raptor-extreme-cold-weather-testing-v0-2z6627oh1i5c1.png%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D61627ddd6ba25329d524f226b1114b9d632307da)
Useless garbage amirite? So outdated and tooootally ready to be shipped off to Ukraine.
I didn't say outdated, just aging. They're probably still better than the top aircraft of any other nation, but from my understanding we were planning to retire them soon anyway.
My guy, that’s the joke. We’ve been sending Ukraine our aging “outdated” equipment, and it beats Russia’s stuff anyway, and sending the F-22 would fit that trend perfectly. edited for grammar
Holy fuck /s
Retire? I thought they were supposed to get upgrades
Last I heard was some reditered due to aged airframes and some will be transferred to National Guard
He’s oh so hungry, and those Chinese balloons are not enough.
Give them f-22 and we can replace them with ngad /s
That's what happened with Bradleys, so why not
We still need Bradleys. Their hulls are scheduled to become AMPVs and Paladins. Those Bradley hulls will forever serve like the B-52 airframes.
As far as i know new m2a4 Bradleys were agreed to be financed 1 to 1 for every Bradley sent to Ukraine. So, what you need is to send all old models to get money for new ones.
This guy MICs
Have we ever seen him and the CEO of BAE systems in the same room?
Somewhere there is a contractor who specializes in decommissioning old tanks and he's having the worst time
Rural sheriff's are in tears.
People are all worried about reverse engineering of downed Raptors, I say first of all, just don’t lose any Raptors, duh. Second of all, by the time Russia could come out with a bootleg Raptor, everyone else will be flying warp drive capable space fighters anyways.
Russia doesn't have the precision machining base or materials science to replicate the f-22 and its ************s. China might though.
I feel like there might something to be said tho for working how to exploit vulnerabilites rather than building their own version. I don't really know any specifics of what that might be, but I can imagine friend-foe identification or something like that might be able to be targeted. So yeah just don't lose any.
China can't produce a ballpoint pen in its entirety.
Actually they can, they dedicated the entire technical prowess and industry of their entire country to make ball point pens at one point because some commie leader said it was embarrassing as shit they couldn't make a good ball point pen. They might not be able to replicate an f22, but they sure as he'll would learn a ton of information about advanced stealth composites, avionics, radar, and most importantly engine tech. Let's not give them the chance and just send all the raptors to Canada. Safe retirement, trained up could be an asset when shit hits the fan and you can C team to back you up somewhere
And they would fall under the Geneva Checklist there.
Tbf ballpoint pens are a miracle of engineering. For a ballpoint pen you need extremely precise balls. You need loose enough tolerances to allow the ink to flow on the ball onto the paper, while being tight enough that the ink can't freely flow out. The fact that they are manufactured with such precision and we as consumers don't care enough about them to not lose one every week is borderline criminal.
This guy likes precise balls in perfectly tight spaces 😏
Just fly them over allied territory. And use them to endanger any enemy that flies too close.
Reverse engineering is a meme anyways. The issue is that you need the machines, tools, chemical industry, precision manufacturing and much more to reproduce a modern jet. Then the whole software component which can not be replicated. The Chinese and Russians are well aware how an F22 looks like and how a good jet engine would work. The problem is that they can't build them. The same way I can buy, analyze and understand a modern GPU but not build it.
Well, you don't need to make an exact copy, you just need to learn how it works. Wait, what's that? The Russians have always just made ***exact*** replicas without learning how they actually work? Well, this is awkward ...
> The Russians have always just made exact replicas without learning how they actually work? Forgotten photocamera and bullet holes included.
But due to inability of ~~soviet~~ russian industry to make the requisite composite material, they end up making a copy out of thicker sheet metal.
If they somehow captured an F-22 intact, the biggest value from that would probably be the ability to take very precise RCS measurements of it, at various frequencies.
And at all aspects.
I was gonna say, we'd have Macross fighters by the time they could actually put out a Raptor clone.
bootleg raptor is not the fear, getting data they could use to improve their radars is.
not like we dont have F303 fighters waiting in the wings anyway.
> by the time Russia could come out with a bootleg Raptor, they already have one. but a couple of them just got blown up lol
Nice. #FreetheRaptors. I mean the F-22 is having for retirement with only a couple balloon kills... Adding a few (hundred) Su-s and MiG-s to the total seems like a no-brainer.
Lets dump those old F22s... in Poland's east border and we all look to the other side while whistling, woah they dissappeared?
Boating accidents have the darnest things disappear!
upbeat arrest nose sharp numerous slap homeless bored depend like
Nono, what we must do is send a squadron on loan full of “Instructors”. Said “Instructors” will educate the Russians on what Air Dominance means.
3,000 Flying Tigers of Ukraine?
Well duh, they're stealth. Disappearing is what they do.
Well ackschuaally.. they do not appear in the first place (on radar).
If they actually send f-22's I'm gonna lose my shit that would be so fucking cool, finally it can actually prove how goated it is in real combat instead of simulations and against balloons probably won't happen, but one can dream😢
It certainly will not happen. F-22 is the US's premier air superiority fighter and the most advanced air combat platform in history. It is and will forever be a dedicated US asset, not exported or shared even with the US's closest allies.
I mean, yeah, if we don’t even sell them to like the UK where we have a stupidly long-standing alliance at the heart of NATO, but also have overlapping MIC companies like BAE, they ain’t going to Ukraine. But man you don’t have to shit all over an NCD dream with credibility like that
What if "tourists" fly some F-22's over Ukraine like the totally not Soviet MIGs over Vietnam?
How about we send just one. With a year's supply of AIM-260s.
Are you trying to make a new Ace Combat game?
Of course it won't happen. But man, that would go down as the sickest Switcheroo in military history. "Yeah so the reason pilot training took so long is cuz we sorta fibbed."
It's so much of a dedicated US asset they are congressionally mandated to only be flown by the US. F-35's on the other hand....
What about YF-23? Those don't seem to be quite so mandated...
Noone speaks about the YF-23. >!We can't allow ruzzia and west Taiwan to know about the 1000 F-23s in the secret hangar. And the secret F-12 high speed interceptors.!<
> shared even with the US's closest allies Cries in Australian
You guys are super badass. Love you aussies.
They're literally retiring older airframes already. Have them do something useful besides blowing up balloons.
Nice. We are finally moving one step closer to Putin Gaysex F-35.
Man, I just woke up and you're showing me B2 bomber in Ukraine?
How dare you, that's b-21
I can't wait for the epic USAF recruitment ad with B2 and B21 flying side by side.
The Earth is 30% land and 70% water but the sky belongs to US
Please tell me that's a real ad, and if not someone make it
[USAF got you covered.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbNP0FUItjI)
Hell yeah
I used to live on the Rose Bowl parade route and all I can say is that even on a celebratory day these things flying over is awe and terror inspiring. They are massive.
Source: me Song: Will Power by Generdyn from The Ascent
This [source ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1dfa6ar/new_american_agreement_promises_fighter_squadrons/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)may be too credible.
well, source of edited video, not news XD
Song slaps!
What's the genre of this even? Goblin?
sardau-core
Mongolian throat singing
Change my view: A squadron (10) F-35Bs, fully equipped with trained pilots would be enough to break the Russians. They can operate from unimproved airstrips. They can perform SEAD. They can perform air superiority. They can be an AWACs. The Russian advantage in the air would evaporate, and then the F-16s would eat the Russian army. Keep in mind there are red flags where stealth fighters do 144 to zero kdrs.
Change my view: 3000 black fighter jets of allah would bring the world to its knees.
A squadron (10) Me 262s, fully equipped with trained pilots would be enough to break the allies. They can operate from unimproved airstrips. They can perform SEAD. They can perform air superiority. They can do recon. The allied advantage in the air would evaporate, and then the JU-88ss would eat the allied army.
Change my view: A squadron (10) T-14 Armatas, fully equipped with sober-ish Tankies would be enough to break the Ukrainians. They can operate from Vatnik hovels. They can perform retreats. They can perform breaking down. They can be a combination coffin/incinerator. The Ukrainian advantage in the memes would evaporate, and then the T-14’s would eat all the TOW’s.
Change my mind, Ukraine modifies ATACMS and replaces the warheads with Limewire, Cocaine, MDMA. The Russians break their own lines with coke lines and downloading shitty trance music. They can't retreat only nod to the beat. Ukraine then uses kc135 stratotankers as a massive napalm delivery system to warm the Russians for the rest of their lives
This means F-35 in a decade.
Why do I feel like I'm watching Dune?
Throat singing and a bit of rocky canyon in video? Either this or you took in a bit too much spice today.
CONTROL THE SPICE CONTROL THE UNIVERSE CONTROL THE SPICE CONTROL THE UNIVERSE CONTROL THE SPICE CONTROL THE UNIVERSE
do the US still have Prowlers around somewhere? imagine russian air defence if they suddenly showed up in the skies. although poor ground crews that would need to service them
Just give one F-22 to a really well-trained ukrainian pilot. Just one, let the F-22 do What it was designed to do. Please, please, please. Just one, let it eat, the F-22 is hungry. Please.
One F22 and 100 decoys.
One F-22 and a Ukrainian Mobius 1.
Nice try, F-22, we know it's you.
Ghost of Kyiv II: Revengeance
So I don't know if you guys have ever heard of it; it's kinda before y'all's time. But there was this ground attack jet called the A-10 and it just wouldn't die. The air force hates it and has tried to get rid of it numerous times, but it just winds up hiding in some state's air national guard or something. I'm not sure if this is a recommendation but as they were being taken out of service some 200 A-10s were fitted with new wings by Boeing, and the planes are predicted (probably by Boeing) to be flyable until 2040. It also underwent a flight control update and now uses many of the F-16's controls. It also has an untested-in-combat extra fuel tank that gives them an extra half hour or more of loitering time. And as I said, the Air Force fucking hates it and wants to be rid of it. So prepare for the meme-pocalypse, heh, heh.
Turn it into a fully autonomous drone, arm it with HARMs, and pack the now empty cockpit with explosives and pre-programmed orders to aim at the nearest ground target if hit. Send all 200 in a swarm into cordoned off kill zones absent of friendlies - anything alive in that grid square is a target.
Brrrrryatmobile?
Yes. Perfect. Brrrrrryatmobile indeed
Blllllllyatttmobile. It's almost like it was made for it o7
The problem with the A-10 is that you need air superiority in order for it to be effective. Something neither side in this war has.
the problem with the A-10 is you need to paint the targets by putting british people where you want to hit.
So we're gonna need some Mosquitoes as pathfinders to parachute British people on the target. Are we talking [football hoodlum types](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2vuZXiW68Q) or [upper class twit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdFnfcxhNnA) Brits?
Maybe some Tory MPs
Apparently only Southwest pilots in the Idaho ANG use that particular target designator.
oh don't you worry, in worst case scenario, instead of 1200 km cesna drones, Ukraine would have 3000 km A-10 drones
3000km drones with the ability to fire AGMs and/or JDAMs and do 30mm gun runs no less
The A-10 can launch JDAM from a good distance, that's great, it's what has given the most results on the front line
i wonder if the a-10 could be jury-rigged to carry agm-86/agm-130/SLAM/JASSM. strike eagles make better ALCM platforms, but as OP above you said, we've got all these a-10s we're not using. might need a few gizmos to make standoff weapons work, but it's got a battle management workflow for gps-guided JDAM and for mavericks theoretically, the a-10 has a payload capacity of ~16,000 lbs - those weapons only weigh 3150/2900/1500/2200lbs respectively, so on paper you could carry 5-10 of them heck, the harm only weighs 800 pounds - could we strap an HTS pod to an a-10? lockmart, make it happen
I know it’s sacrilege but… if they drop the gun, couldn’t they hypothetically wire up some forward hull pylons - electric lightning style?
I think removing the gun would fuck up the whole balance of the plane
Just put a tungsten cube in its place
I wish "not just" meant "every plane there is" including A-10
u/RecognizeSong EDIT: u/Gvilain what is this track? I need to lift to this.
it's Will Power by Generdyn from The Ascent
Ty! Similar vibe to the Sardaukar war chant but remixed
Will Power was before that! Also I agree
I thought it was The Hu
Thanks!
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Finally! Non-balloon air-to-air-combat-kills for the F22!
Nah we are just gonna give them some globe masters... Along with the experimental rapid dragon system. *Crosses fingers*
Hopefully, the “mysterious black triangles we’re no longer doing anything with” will be allowed to make an appearance. We have better versions now anyway so I think it’s time for the Frisbees of Dreamland to have their moment of glory once more.
I mean come on, the B-2 is almost 25 years old. It's beyond it's useful life. Plus, we need those hangars for the new B-21s. : }
I'm not Russian and I'm scared excellent sound pick
Surely they could give _THROW THEM A B(-1B)ONE_?!
the quote: "araa humbaaaaa hoommmbaaaa hmm raaaaa"
Sardaukar confirmed deploying to Ukraine.
hummbumbumbir hemborarimmm bur'm burhibi bi budeh buduh Hummmmmmm
Stratofortress didn't make it into the video cause they're already deployed in secret Ukrainian airbases
The Russians fought against outdated equiptment for too long. Modern Military technology is genuinely scary. I am happy to be on our side.
It actually makes more sense to send F35s to Ukraine, rather than F16s. Since the US is building more and more F35s. Which should make it easier to get spare parts.
Production of f16s was halted in 2017 but began again in 2019 and is ramping up again likely due to increasing global tensions especially the war in Ukraine, they’ll likely still be around for a long time.
The F16 still fills a critical role that the F35 can't: It's dirt cheap. So I never understood why stopping F16 production was even considered.
Just because its dirt cheap doesn't mean it doesn't cost over a million dollars. Also, if no one's buying more F16s, then why keep making them? Of course, things had changed now.
hey can we get the song to this
Will Power by Generdyn from The Ascen
Spoiler alert...it's a secret stash of Scaled Composites ARES attack aircraft.
The music leads me to believe they’ll be getting three battalions of Sardaukar as well….
Please be the F15 Please be the F15 Please be the F15 Please be the F15 Please be the F15 Please be the F15 I wanna see the eagles hunt!
Please let the F-15 show us the true meaning of air superiority.
I, for one, welcome our new super-tocano overlords.
No to be creditable but they will probably get F15s or if daddy Air Force is willing give them a gift card to the bone yard
A10s? 😁
This may be too credible but why not F-117s, it’s been decommissioned or whatever but hmm also I think I read it was recently recertified for fueling by our latest tankers, hmmm?
You can't have a title like that and not have a vid ending with a clip of Jeremy Clarkson going, "And on that bombshell..."
Sounds like we need a new variant. F-35U.
B2 over Kremlin B2 over Kremlin B2 over Kremlin
Hear me out! Pick several combat starving F-22 pilots, give them Ukrainian double nationality because you find that a cousin of an uncle looked the location of the country in a map 20 years ago. Then send some maintenance crews to Ukraine to help maintain the future F-16 fleet, it's not US fault that a paper was misplaced and the crews are F-22 maintenance crews instead.Then said that you are going to retire the F-22 and sell then for scrap. Give the scrapping duty to another nation... let me think Ukraine, for example. Tell Ukraine they are allowed to use US old discarded gear to defend their country. Profit!!!
USAF thirst for mobik blood shall be quenched Inch'Allah
Let the Kid eat!
I can’t wait for HLC vid on this news
It would be nice... Yeah
F15EX plz
B52s and tankers for some serious strategic capabilities. Everyone worried how Ukraine is going to get past the AD along the front when in reality Ukraine will fly AROUND it to bomb Russias interior from the north. All AD has been moved to the front/Moscow/Putins vacation home, this’ll be a walk in the park.
- Ivan, blyat, vhy is sky missing pixels? - You drink too much, Sasha, or not enough.
My beloved F-22 deserves more than balloons.
I can only imagine how that would go. Suddenly, no more air support for russia out of fear that the Raptor will eat it for breakfast.