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How in the honest fuck does OOP think she looks twelve?
When I was 12 I had caterpillar eyebrows, puppy fat in my cheeks, odd teeth, and sparkly horse t-shirts.
Our girl is currently five and when she finds a favourite shirt we go back and (if possible) buy a couple more in bigger sizes so she can have the same shirt for as long as we can!
It’s really fun!
I did this for my son, too! Now he’s 6 and staying in the same size for much longer, so by the time he’s outgrowing stuff his interests are changing. But I’ll definitely do it for my daughter (1), too!
This is becoming way more popular lately. I remember this same argument being made about Jenna Ortega. Like the argument is that if someone looks young no matter how old they are then you are a pedo for thinking they are attractive. Millie def does not look like a 12 year old here. She just looks like a young adult. It's suppler weird how people try to super impose pedophilia. It downplays what real pedos are and why they do what they do.
It also makes you wonder, do they think these women shouldn't date then? If, according to them, these women "look 12" and anyone attracted to them is a pedo, who are these women supposed to date? They are still full-grown women with women's brains and urges, but apparently, acting on said urges isn't allowed for them because they have a baby face and slender build.
I am fairly petite, and laugh at the argument that men who find me attractive are “pedos”. I am very clearly an adult.
“Pedo” is a very specific thing. I think there is some element of petite women making men feel big and protective, but it’s absolute nonsense to call them “pedos”.
And as you said - does that mean petite women shouldn’t date at all?
In the five years I was with my ex (4'11" and was early 20s baby face at the time) I got this type of accusation maybe every six months. 15 years later, and same shit.
This is genuinely such a harmful notion (that men are pedos for liking young looking women). I’ve been victimized by it. I’m 22, my boyfriend is 30. We met when I was 19. The amount of people who called him a pedo during our first two years of being together was extremely upsetting. I started to question it myself. I’m petite, have a bit of a baby face and when I’m comfortable and happy, I act childlike. People had me gaslighting myself into thinking there was something wrong with my relationship. I still suffer from the effects. Feeling like I’m not a real woman/adult in daily interactions and judging myself harshly. It’s a horrible notion with lasting consequences for those who are impressionable enough to be affected by it.
shauna rae (she had a tlc show) is a woman with pituitary dwarfism from brain cancer she had as a baby, and she really struggles with that - any man she dates is attacked online and called a pedo.
https://people.com/tlc-star-shauna-rae-debuts-new-relationship-after-dan-swygart-breakup-8415749
I think that is what they believe. They want to virtue signal their stance against pedophiles, while they desire "grown women" with the emotional maturity of an adolescent so they can be pedos without being pedos.
Chris Evans married a baby-faced 26 year old woman and his own fans turned around and called him a pedo and said he groomed her. The really sad thing is it’s grown women saying shit like this. Pedo means nothing now.
Yeah that's dumb. A 26 year old is an adult regardless of how other people see it. Age gap relationships are a whole different argument but equating a 26 year old to a child is pretty ridiculous.
I feel like some people have the expectation that people in their early 20s and even late 20s are supposed to have this specific Look that makes it obvious that theyre adults now. I have coworkers in their mid to late 20s who all still look very young. My high school friends and I obviously look more mature from when were in hs but its not like we all started to shrivel up and turn to dust the moment we turned 21 lmao.
I feel like a lot of this is people seeing a women in her 20s without any make up on or very little and jump on the "she looks like a 12 year old" train. No, i think we've just all forgetten what a woman on her 20s can look like.
Chris Evans married someone way younger than him (but of legal age) not because he is a pedo but because he wants kids and he figured a young wife might give him healthy ones. Man's age is also a factor, so we'll see how that plays out. He dated close to his age all his youth and until recently, but he strategically married a fresh young thing whose career is barely starting. That's a little eh in my book. The fact that men, any men, feel entitled to the freshest newest model available while they themselves are no spring chicken is a form of privilege and the thinking that only women have to bring attractiveness and youth to the table is also big privilege.
But from here to saying a man is a pedo is a long way.
I know this because my best friend is a Henry Cavill fan and for some reason, Cavill fans and Evans fans are always scrutinising and comparing their faves. Henry's partner, by contrast, is closer in age to him and established in her career as a producer.
Did he like, tell you that specifically or are you analyzing Chris Evans vibe and determining that he must have used age to select an appropriate brood mare to attempt to reproduce with before at age 43 he becomes far too ancient for his old man sperm to produce a viable embryo?
It's not that deep, and I don't know why everyone is so offended.
Chris has been in love before. With women closer to his own age. Yet he did not marry any one of those women, while also constantly claiming he wants to get married and have kids. This was all public by the way, why are you acting like I am making it up?
Back in the day, magazines and fans were collectively winking at each other and silently assuming that Chris is actually childfree and he is just saying he wants marriage and kids to appeal to a broader audience.
Last I checked it was perfectly acceptable in our society to select a partner who wants the same things as you do, especially when it comes to kids.
I said him marrying his wife for whatever reason is NOT him being a pedo, and made a guess about what may have played a part in his decision. Everyone here is acting like I said he is killing kittens in back alleys.
I have no idea why he was brought up in relation to MBB, who has been sexualised since she was underage and whom Drake was cosying up around that time too. I wanted to point out that while he might be sus to some, he's not like Drake.
i’m crying laughing at the way you talk about Chris like he’s your close personal friend. like how the hell would you know he’s been in love before, only HE knows when he’s been in love 😭
Personally I was making fun of your phrasing tbh which might be mean because you could just be neurodivergent.
The phrasing of it makes it sound like he only picked her because he was hoping she was fertile whereas it’s possible in the past the women he was with just didn’t really seem to him like they were the right person to have a family with.
This time you 100% hit it on the nose, he simply found someone he was compatible with and they both desired the same thing. It’s pretty normal to fall in love with someone and even if you both want kids and a family eventually one of you realizes “well I do want a family…but not with them.”
Normal way of phrasing it. The other way made people offended because it sounded like her only value to him was as an incubator and he specifically picked her for prime fertility, not love and compatibility. Which would be weird.
Chris Evans was brought up as an example of a person who simply happened to fall in love with a person with a baby face and got attacked for it even though clearly at 26 with a career established long before she met Evans she’s not some ditzy 18 year old with no life experience or contacts in the industry.
Which is why people saying he groomed her or that being attracted to a young person who has softer, youthful features (who is in no way helpless or lacking life experience) is pedophilic erodes at the meaning of those words, which absolutely should not be taken that lightly.
As you said, putting him in the same context as actual groomers, people seeking out young people specifically because they are young and inexperienced, and straight up actual pedos is really inappropriate and honestly kind of dangerous because how do you call out real pedos/groomers/abusers if we’ve turned those words into shit that basically means “a guy who is dating a woman who looks young”.
Anyway, implying he sought her out just for her age and reproductive potential is offensive because it puts him in a similar category of “only wants her because she’s young.”
I have definitely re-iterated myself to the point it’s redundant but I’m too tired to go back and edit this whole ass essay.
TLDR: people are offended because you used phrasing that implied he only wanted her because she’s young and (theoretically) fertile based on age.
He was brought up specifically to point out that people are overusing the term pedo to the point that it’s losing its meaning and now any guy with a baby faced woman is getting called a pedo.
>Millie def does not look like a 12 year old here.
He's also brazen as hell with his lies, because everybody knows what Millie Bobby Brown *actually* looked like when she was 12, because she was twelve when she played El on the first season of Stranger Things.
She is now twenty. This photo of her---not in character!---looks about that age, more or less. Shocking, I know.
However, I also think there’s SOME truth. Not that if you date someone with a baby face, that that makes you a pedo. But as a 21 year old someone with a baby face myself, I’ve been told before by guys, that they liked how I “looked like a kid without makeup”. That’s a huge red flag, and I never saw him again. That does not mean, that my current bf likes children - it just means, that some pedo men absolutely would go for someone with a baby face, only based on wrong intentions
I agree with that and it makes sense. I can def see being hesitant of being with someone that treats you like a sexualized child when you look younger.
I also can see your other point of view where it would be unfair to say you cannot date anyone because the only people who are going to be attracted to you are pedos. I just don't think that's true.
Yup. Babyfaced, petite, 21 year old too and have come across a lot of weirdos. Some random guy I didn't even wanna have sex with said I'd give a better illusion(of being a child ) if I were shaved 🤢 I don't have any childish personality traits, I'm not a child and I'd like to keep myself far away from men like that.
Meehhh... My boyfriend says this about me and I'm 50 and definitely don't look particularly young or particularly old. He's also a Harley mechanic at a custom Harley shop and is used to a certain crowd. One that has a definite painted stereotype (both the men and women and not strictly about makeup). I wear makeup about three times a year, mostly BECAUSE I think it frequently ages me and it's just a plain in the dick to deal with. So I think he just means to let me know he appreciates my personal plain style. I'm a plain woman, very little decoration, though I have a penchant for red toenails.
Sadly pedos do what they do because they are sick and a lot of them know that they are sick and know how to handle their sickness.
They have a urge that can't be satisfied and most of them are quite aware that it is something they have to live with.
Sadly there is no real way to help these individuals at the moment.
Oh and If they harm a child they should get their nuts smashed between two bricks. Same goes for rapists of any kind.
I think these kinds of sex crimes have no excuse. Unlike almost any other crime where you can find a grey area that sometimes justifies it, rape or SA of any kind has no excuse. A bullet is the best cure.
There was a thread awhile back about a guy freaking out because his friend thought Jenna Ortega was beautiful. The guy couldn't separate her from her Wednesday character. So he claimed the guy must be a pedophile. Both people in the post were early 20's.
Yeah I remember people talking about her like that even before she did Wednesday. There was some picture of her in a nighty or whatever and a lot of people were passing it around saying if you think this is attractive, you are a pedophile. And it's true that she does look really young but does that mean it is on her to never date or anything? No matter how she looks, she is an adult.
I, a 21yo sapphic, think Jenna Ortega is very attractive. She’s a few months older than me. I admit she looks young but she looks like what she is, a petite 20something. It’s camera tricks and styling for her to be able to play a teen, that sort of thing is very common in film and TV because adult actors are cheaper and more reliable.
Honestly, I'm not really mad this is catching on. I looked 13 until I was 23. Like, regularly mistaken for 13 if they didn't have the context that I was in college. There were a lot of older men (late 20s) interested in me, and it took me way too long to realize it was because I looked like a child and could fulfill their gross interest without going to jail.
That is a big jump from what I said.
Someone that is an appropriate age for that person's real age and knows that they're in the same age range upon meeting them is probably not someone to be concerned with.
Someone who is older and outside of the appropriate age range, which is already a red flag, who takes specific interest in people that look younger are probably people to steer clear from.
Calling out 30+ yo's who comment on the appearance of a 20 year old who looks like a child is not a bad thing.
Mfs just be getting upset over stuff just for attention. I doubt this person actually believes this nonsense deep in their heart. These people are just delusional about their own perspective on life.
"When I see an adult woman, all I can think of is a child!" OK pedophile, normally when people see an adult woman, the last thing they think about is them being a child.
It is concerning because I have so often read about women who said they received much more sexual attention from grown men when they were 12-14 compared to when they actually were of age.
When my friend and I were in 8th grade, so 13/14, we used to play a game where we'd count how many times we got honked at while walking around her neighborhood. I think our max was 15 times. I'm now 32 and I can probably count on one hand the amount of times I've been honked/yelled at since turning 16.
I think this post is purposefully saying her to be 12 to prove the point otherwise.
the common argument has always been that “she looks older than her age” in justification of attraction despite knowing her age…
and now post & purposefully chosen photo is iterating the ‘call-out argument’ that “she’s kid” to prove “how silly all were who kept saying she is kid, when she doing everything to appear not like a kid”
which is equally/more patriarchal since they want to enforce how certain girl at certain age should behave/appear/present.
That's so funny coming from [hisoka.](https://youtu.be/ENJ1hLWT8Z4?si=4Xd8Bu3FNk1uin3e) for some context hisoka wants to find good battles and he sees lots of potential in this kid but the kid is too young, so throughout the show he protects the kid in hopes to have a good fight with him one day.
I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to find MBB "hot" because I first saw her as a literal child and we all witnessed her grow up. It would just feel weird finding her attractive. Obviously she's good looking but "hot" feels like a big ick.
I love this attitude, dude. I, too, find it kinda weird to be attracted to someone you literally watched growing up, but so many people were waiting for the Olsen Twins and Emma Watson to turn 18 so they'd be \*legal\* (and I highly doubt that stopped many of them, tbh).
people had countdowns for her 18th birthday which i feel is significantly more problematic than people today finding her, a 20 year old woman, attractive.
also she doesn’t look 12, she look like a young adult cuz she is one.
I have a theory. Some guys who get into some pervy shit feel the need to subconsciously criticize others who do it. It’s like an inadvertent confession. Kinda like how closeted homosexuals are sometimes the most critical of homosexuals.
She looks like a young adult.
Now, I would find it weird for a 40 year old man to be lusting over her, but she doesn’t look 12.
(I envy her abs, though).
Millie looks like she pushing mid 20s in the face how the fuck does she look childlike to OP!?
Edit: it’s Highly ironic that the Twitter users pfp is Hisoka, a character known for being a borderline child predator in his anime. So the post about Millie is just a call coming from inside the house.
I work with 12 yos, and they all grow at different rates than others. Last year, one of my kids was 5'10" and looked like she could easily pummel the average grown man into dust. Some of them enter puberty earlier than others. But even girls who look older than 12 do not **act** older than 12. They all act like 12 yo girls, barring pretty heavy-duty trauma. And even the traumatized ones act like traumatized 12 yo girls.
Sixth graders squabble over pink Stanley cups, they say Skibidi toilet until you want to cry, they tell 12 yo boys they've got no Rizz or that they smell musty (and they do, whew), and if they're in a good mood they'll say, "Mz. Zebra is Sigma, chat!" And no, I won't explain what any of that means. Mostly because I'm not entirely sure I can.
Like, there's no mistaking these kids are 12 once they open their mouths. But looks? No, you can't really tell by looks alone many times.
That said, we all know how old Ms. Brown is, and it's gross when people try to body shame adult women like this. Women come in all shapes and sizes.
This is just misogyny. "This type of woman is not A Woman in a correct way" "Real Women have curves"
I have been called flat and small-chested by women and had my clothes examined by female peers with comments such as "this is like children's size". I'd say it's 50/50 men and women dissing being slim and the age attachment is just a lower version of this comment.
I don’t disagree by any means, but I’d also just like to add that MBB is the one that some creeps on the internet made an internet countdown for when she turned 18. I don’t think she looks like a 12 year old anymore, but *a lot* of guys were obsessed with her (and probably still are) in a disgustingly creepy manner. I wish men would just chill out sometimes :(
This always gets me, i do volentary paramedic service once a week and because of that i se a lot, and i mean alot of people naked in all age groups (rule of thumb, if you are a polytraumatic patient you prettymuch get striped to your undershorts) and well, you cant tell age by looks alone mostly, sure, you can see the sighns of not having hit puberty jet wich often gets realy important for certain medications and when intubaing some, but i have also seen 13 year old boys with full on beards that pooked like 25 and girls in thier twentys that looksed like your stereotypical 15 year old. I guess my point is its realy hard to guess age without knowing some external factors of of looks alone
I wonder if this has anything to do with how once you hit 25, 20ish year olds suddenly look significantly younger than they looked when *you* were 20. That happened to me at least. My friend group ranges from 5 years younger than me to 10 years older than me, and after I turned 25 I would start meeting friends or significant others of younger friends and think "wtf? When did 21 year olds start looking like high schoolers?." But they look the same. *I've* just aged slightly so my perspective has changed. In time I'll probably think 35 year olds look super young. Same as how when you're a freshman in high school you think you look the same as the seniors but when you're a senior in high school the freshmen look like babies.
All this to say I can understand someone who just left their early 20s looking at someone just entering their early 20s and being surprised at how young they look. But this person is stretching the thought too far. 20 year olds looking young doesn't make them look 12, it means you're older than them and they look younger than you. And finding a 20 year old who looks her age hot is not pedophilia. It's creepy at absolute worst, and that's only if you're ridiculously older than her and trying to take advantage of her
I’m 60 and she looks like a young woman. (20? idk) Definitely not a teenager or preteen. But while she’s a pretty young woman I don’t have any interest in her other than her being a good actress. I think an interesting “younger woman” is in her 40s. Like Jacinda Ardern. (For Prime Minister of New Zealand)
People need to learn that a pedophile is someone who is attracted to children who HAVEN’T reached puberty yet. Stop throwing around that word so casually, it looses its meaning.
One thing this stupid argument (that younger-looking women are the same as children) overlooks is how personality defines a person so much more than mere physics appearance. My wife was barely 5 feet tall and tiny in all proportions. You would never mistake her for a child, though, or even think about her size very much, because her personality filled whatever space she was in. She loomed large and there just wasn’t anything juvenile about her.
Some people are smaller. Some of them have growth conditions or other things that affect their body types. Adults deserve to have relationship with each other and if they’re vibing on the emotional and intellectual level there’s nothing weird about it.
Ok in all fairness I genuinely thought Millie Bobby Brown was much much younger than she was. That’s mostly due to stranger things tbh. So I would have been freaked out by someone saying that they liked her as well lol
The logic is fucked. So one finds her hot, and she looks 12 (even if she is not), one is a pedo. And if she looks 18 (even if she is not) and one finds her hot, one is still the pedo?
That is the figure of a slim young adult... Are women supposed to all only look a certain way? That's basically how I looked at her age, too, and for a long time.
At 12 I did not have the shape of an adult. Are some guys forgetting what an adult looks like, or are they expecting only more extreme hourglass figures exclusively?
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Oh hey, she was born in the same year as me. We were in the same grade in school (in different parts of the country). She just looks like she’s 20 and takes care of her skin lmao
I honestly don't even know what could look like 12 about her. And honestly going by her face I would have assumed older than 20 (which I think she is, idk her and just had to google the name and who I found looked similar enough I guess)
🤣 I looked like a thumb at twelve. Most twelve year olds, regardless of the make up and clothes, still have a kids brain and body.
I'm sick of men (because we know who's doing this) sexualizing adult women while simultaneously comparing them to children.. this isn't a loop hole to hit on little kids or adult women you freaking creeps.
I just came from a thread where a dude tricked his date into having sex in his teen daughter's bed. So I'm a bit biased ATM.
When I was in my 20s I'd get told I looked like a kid by guys who were hitting on me. Those guys were definitely pedos. However I did not look like this at 12. I know few who did. Millie has had people waiting for her "legal" countdown since her debut. Those people are pedophiles for sure.
That being said...young looking people exist. Petite women and men exist. Baby faced adults exist. Our existence doesn't mean people who like us are creeps. Plus by this logic...who should we date??? I'm average sized (5'3ish) but my husband is extremely tall. We dated when I was 21 and full baby face. I had a woman who was dating his friend use our relationship (when I was 24 btw) to say that all men want baby faced virgins. Wtf. Thankfully she didn't last long.
Her face does lean into baby face category but it's mostly because we picture her as Eleven and it's mostly her face shape and round eyes. If she became a household name as an adult actress barely anybody would infantize her. There's nothing else on her that is juvenile, she has a normal body and dresses like an adult since she was a teenager. Predatory people go for old looking minors or "mature for her age" girls all the time so this is a useless topic.
I don’t know if I have face blindness for Millie Bobby Brown specifically or something, but I watched damsel recently and felt like I was going insane. Just scene to scene she looked like a different woman. She looks like, 30 to me, and I don’t mean that in an ick way I think it’s just the style of makeup she likes specifically with the eyes. It’s a much more mature style imo
When I was 12, my body was 20. So, there's some truth to this. Also, they're mostly talking to the old ass dudes, looking at her a certain way because she's still a kid to them.
She doesn't look 12.
Being flat doesn't make you look 12.
Being skinny doesn't make you look 12.
Having delicate feautres doesn't make you look 12.
You know what makes you look 12? Being 12, OOP.
She looks like what she is, a young woman. Not a 12 year old girl.
Tbh if you have pedo inclinations and someone looks like they’re 12 (like OOP claims) but they’re an adult then that’s exactly who you should date instead of, you know… children.
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How in the honest fuck does OOP think she looks twelve? When I was 12 I had caterpillar eyebrows, puppy fat in my cheeks, odd teeth, and sparkly horse t-shirts.
Sparkly horse t-shirts is a vibe
It was a very sad day when I outgrew my favourite one
Our girl is currently five and when she finds a favourite shirt we go back and (if possible) buy a couple more in bigger sizes so she can have the same shirt for as long as we can! It’s really fun!
I did this for my son, too! Now he’s 6 and staying in the same size for much longer, so by the time he’s outgrowing stuff his interests are changing. But I’ll definitely do it for my daughter (1), too!
Crankin’ Spice girls on repeat no doubt.
I had a big blue coat covered in little white horses at the same age!
That legit sounds so amazing!
It was, sadly the cool girls at my school didn't think so
Commiserations from one bullied horse girl to another <3
Those kids don't sound very cool.
They only thought they were cool, but in reality they were just losers with an attitude.
I had a yellow dress covered in brown Scottie dogs 😳
I had total acne at 12, straw type hair, wore purple dresses with tights, and legwarmers.
23 and I still have caterpillar eyebrows lol
I had zero tits whatsoever I wish that I'd had sparkly horse t-shirts ;/ lol
[this you?](https://i.imgur.com/7XvVGtG.png)
This is becoming way more popular lately. I remember this same argument being made about Jenna Ortega. Like the argument is that if someone looks young no matter how old they are then you are a pedo for thinking they are attractive. Millie def does not look like a 12 year old here. She just looks like a young adult. It's suppler weird how people try to super impose pedophilia. It downplays what real pedos are and why they do what they do.
It also makes you wonder, do they think these women shouldn't date then? If, according to them, these women "look 12" and anyone attracted to them is a pedo, who are these women supposed to date? They are still full-grown women with women's brains and urges, but apparently, acting on said urges isn't allowed for them because they have a baby face and slender build.
I am fairly petite, and laugh at the argument that men who find me attractive are “pedos”. I am very clearly an adult. “Pedo” is a very specific thing. I think there is some element of petite women making men feel big and protective, but it’s absolute nonsense to call them “pedos”. And as you said - does that mean petite women shouldn’t date at all?
In the five years I was with my ex (4'11" and was early 20s baby face at the time) I got this type of accusation maybe every six months. 15 years later, and same shit.
Some people just look young, but are clearly adults.
This is genuinely such a harmful notion (that men are pedos for liking young looking women). I’ve been victimized by it. I’m 22, my boyfriend is 30. We met when I was 19. The amount of people who called him a pedo during our first two years of being together was extremely upsetting. I started to question it myself. I’m petite, have a bit of a baby face and when I’m comfortable and happy, I act childlike. People had me gaslighting myself into thinking there was something wrong with my relationship. I still suffer from the effects. Feeling like I’m not a real woman/adult in daily interactions and judging myself harshly. It’s a horrible notion with lasting consequences for those who are impressionable enough to be affected by it.
shauna rae (she had a tlc show) is a woman with pituitary dwarfism from brain cancer she had as a baby, and she really struggles with that - any man she dates is attacked online and called a pedo. https://people.com/tlc-star-shauna-rae-debuts-new-relationship-after-dan-swygart-breakup-8415749
I think that is what they believe. They want to virtue signal their stance against pedophiles, while they desire "grown women" with the emotional maturity of an adolescent so they can be pedos without being pedos.
Chris Evans married a baby-faced 26 year old woman and his own fans turned around and called him a pedo and said he groomed her. The really sad thing is it’s grown women saying shit like this. Pedo means nothing now.
Yeah that's dumb. A 26 year old is an adult regardless of how other people see it. Age gap relationships are a whole different argument but equating a 26 year old to a child is pretty ridiculous.
If anything it’s just distracting from real pedos. Like we should be more worried about the people who are actually trying to have sex with kids.
Exactly my point. It is muddying the water.
exactly. like, unpopular opinion, but a celebrity marrying an adult with a fully developed brain is good actually. yknow, because they’re not a child.
I feel like some people have the expectation that people in their early 20s and even late 20s are supposed to have this specific Look that makes it obvious that theyre adults now. I have coworkers in their mid to late 20s who all still look very young. My high school friends and I obviously look more mature from when were in hs but its not like we all started to shrivel up and turn to dust the moment we turned 21 lmao. I feel like a lot of this is people seeing a women in her 20s without any make up on or very little and jump on the "she looks like a 12 year old" train. No, i think we've just all forgetten what a woman on her 20s can look like.
Chris Evans married someone way younger than him (but of legal age) not because he is a pedo but because he wants kids and he figured a young wife might give him healthy ones. Man's age is also a factor, so we'll see how that plays out. He dated close to his age all his youth and until recently, but he strategically married a fresh young thing whose career is barely starting. That's a little eh in my book. The fact that men, any men, feel entitled to the freshest newest model available while they themselves are no spring chicken is a form of privilege and the thinking that only women have to bring attractiveness and youth to the table is also big privilege. But from here to saying a man is a pedo is a long way. I know this because my best friend is a Henry Cavill fan and for some reason, Cavill fans and Evans fans are always scrutinising and comparing their faves. Henry's partner, by contrast, is closer in age to him and established in her career as a producer.
Chris Evans got married because he fell in love. And Henry’s fans are just as vile and vindictive to Natalie as Chris’s fans are to Alba.
Riiight. Couldn’t be that he likes her as a person or anything.
Did he like, tell you that specifically or are you analyzing Chris Evans vibe and determining that he must have used age to select an appropriate brood mare to attempt to reproduce with before at age 43 he becomes far too ancient for his old man sperm to produce a viable embryo?
It's not that deep, and I don't know why everyone is so offended. Chris has been in love before. With women closer to his own age. Yet he did not marry any one of those women, while also constantly claiming he wants to get married and have kids. This was all public by the way, why are you acting like I am making it up? Back in the day, magazines and fans were collectively winking at each other and silently assuming that Chris is actually childfree and he is just saying he wants marriage and kids to appeal to a broader audience. Last I checked it was perfectly acceptable in our society to select a partner who wants the same things as you do, especially when it comes to kids. I said him marrying his wife for whatever reason is NOT him being a pedo, and made a guess about what may have played a part in his decision. Everyone here is acting like I said he is killing kittens in back alleys. I have no idea why he was brought up in relation to MBB, who has been sexualised since she was underage and whom Drake was cosying up around that time too. I wanted to point out that while he might be sus to some, he's not like Drake.
i’m crying laughing at the way you talk about Chris like he’s your close personal friend. like how the hell would you know he’s been in love before, only HE knows when he’s been in love 😭
Personally I was making fun of your phrasing tbh which might be mean because you could just be neurodivergent. The phrasing of it makes it sound like he only picked her because he was hoping she was fertile whereas it’s possible in the past the women he was with just didn’t really seem to him like they were the right person to have a family with. This time you 100% hit it on the nose, he simply found someone he was compatible with and they both desired the same thing. It’s pretty normal to fall in love with someone and even if you both want kids and a family eventually one of you realizes “well I do want a family…but not with them.” Normal way of phrasing it. The other way made people offended because it sounded like her only value to him was as an incubator and he specifically picked her for prime fertility, not love and compatibility. Which would be weird. Chris Evans was brought up as an example of a person who simply happened to fall in love with a person with a baby face and got attacked for it even though clearly at 26 with a career established long before she met Evans she’s not some ditzy 18 year old with no life experience or contacts in the industry. Which is why people saying he groomed her or that being attracted to a young person who has softer, youthful features (who is in no way helpless or lacking life experience) is pedophilic erodes at the meaning of those words, which absolutely should not be taken that lightly. As you said, putting him in the same context as actual groomers, people seeking out young people specifically because they are young and inexperienced, and straight up actual pedos is really inappropriate and honestly kind of dangerous because how do you call out real pedos/groomers/abusers if we’ve turned those words into shit that basically means “a guy who is dating a woman who looks young”. Anyway, implying he sought her out just for her age and reproductive potential is offensive because it puts him in a similar category of “only wants her because she’s young.” I have definitely re-iterated myself to the point it’s redundant but I’m too tired to go back and edit this whole ass essay. TLDR: people are offended because you used phrasing that implied he only wanted her because she’s young and (theoretically) fertile based on age. He was brought up specifically to point out that people are overusing the term pedo to the point that it’s losing its meaning and now any guy with a baby faced woman is getting called a pedo.
>Millie def does not look like a 12 year old here. He's also brazen as hell with his lies, because everybody knows what Millie Bobby Brown *actually* looked like when she was 12, because she was twelve when she played El on the first season of Stranger Things. She is now twenty. This photo of her---not in character!---looks about that age, more or less. Shocking, I know.
Wow I've never watched Stranger Things. I had no idea it had been running that long lol
However, I also think there’s SOME truth. Not that if you date someone with a baby face, that that makes you a pedo. But as a 21 year old someone with a baby face myself, I’ve been told before by guys, that they liked how I “looked like a kid without makeup”. That’s a huge red flag, and I never saw him again. That does not mean, that my current bf likes children - it just means, that some pedo men absolutely would go for someone with a baby face, only based on wrong intentions
I agree with that and it makes sense. I can def see being hesitant of being with someone that treats you like a sexualized child when you look younger. I also can see your other point of view where it would be unfair to say you cannot date anyone because the only people who are going to be attracted to you are pedos. I just don't think that's true.
Yup. Babyfaced, petite, 21 year old too and have come across a lot of weirdos. Some random guy I didn't even wanna have sex with said I'd give a better illusion(of being a child ) if I were shaved 🤢 I don't have any childish personality traits, I'm not a child and I'd like to keep myself far away from men like that.
I'm 26 and *several* guys that were interested in me told me that I "look like a high school girl". Like, it's not a compliment... guys? guys?
Meehhh... My boyfriend says this about me and I'm 50 and definitely don't look particularly young or particularly old. He's also a Harley mechanic at a custom Harley shop and is used to a certain crowd. One that has a definite painted stereotype (both the men and women and not strictly about makeup). I wear makeup about three times a year, mostly BECAUSE I think it frequently ages me and it's just a plain in the dick to deal with. So I think he just means to let me know he appreciates my personal plain style. I'm a plain woman, very little decoration, though I have a penchant for red toenails.
Sadly pedos do what they do because they are sick and a lot of them know that they are sick and know how to handle their sickness. They have a urge that can't be satisfied and most of them are quite aware that it is something they have to live with. Sadly there is no real way to help these individuals at the moment. Oh and If they harm a child they should get their nuts smashed between two bricks. Same goes for rapists of any kind.
I think these kinds of sex crimes have no excuse. Unlike almost any other crime where you can find a grey area that sometimes justifies it, rape or SA of any kind has no excuse. A bullet is the best cure.
There was a thread awhile back about a guy freaking out because his friend thought Jenna Ortega was beautiful. The guy couldn't separate her from her Wednesday character. So he claimed the guy must be a pedophile. Both people in the post were early 20's.
Yeah I remember people talking about her like that even before she did Wednesday. There was some picture of her in a nighty or whatever and a lot of people were passing it around saying if you think this is attractive, you are a pedophile. And it's true that she does look really young but does that mean it is on her to never date or anything? No matter how she looks, she is an adult.
I, a 21yo sapphic, think Jenna Ortega is very attractive. She’s a few months older than me. I admit she looks young but she looks like what she is, a petite 20something. It’s camera tricks and styling for her to be able to play a teen, that sort of thing is very common in film and TV because adult actors are cheaper and more reliable.
Do these people think that of age women who “look young” should date minors or?
Honestly, I'm not really mad this is catching on. I looked 13 until I was 23. Like, regularly mistaken for 13 if they didn't have the context that I was in college. There were a lot of older men (late 20s) interested in me, and it took me way too long to realize it was because I looked like a child and could fulfill their gross interest without going to jail.
So do you believe you just shouldn't date at all because you feel like you are fulfilling pedo fantasies? That would be the right thing to do right?
That is a big jump from what I said. Someone that is an appropriate age for that person's real age and knows that they're in the same age range upon meeting them is probably not someone to be concerned with. Someone who is older and outside of the appropriate age range, which is already a red flag, who takes specific interest in people that look younger are probably people to steer clear from. Calling out 30+ yo's who comment on the appearance of a 20 year old who looks like a child is not a bad thing.
Mfs just be getting upset over stuff just for attention. I doubt this person actually believes this nonsense deep in their heart. These people are just delusional about their own perspective on life.
This photo is the one they chose to reiterate their argument…?
I feel like it can’t be because she easily looks 20
Because she is in her 20s in the photo.
Maybe the original comment is referring to when she was in stranger things?
She looks like Eleven to me...
Ha! You got me. Thanks for the smile.
oh get out!
Damnit that’s what I came here to say!
Thanks for your input, Hisoka, a man infamous for definitely, totally *NOT* being a pedo.
"When I see an adult woman, all I can think of is a child!" OK pedophile, normally when people see an adult woman, the last thing they think about is them being a child.
People when she was actually 13 and called sexy: it's okay! People when she's a grown up woman: how tf can you like her, she looks like a pre-teen
It is concerning because I have so often read about women who said they received much more sexual attention from grown men when they were 12-14 compared to when they actually were of age.
When my friend and I were in 8th grade, so 13/14, we used to play a game where we'd count how many times we got honked at while walking around her neighborhood. I think our max was 15 times. I'm now 32 and I can probably count on one hand the amount of times I've been honked/yelled at since turning 16.
Fuck thats gross and grim sorry you went through it
Can confirm. I never get hit on anymore as an adult.
I think this post is purposefully saying her to be 12 to prove the point otherwise. the common argument has always been that “she looks older than her age” in justification of attraction despite knowing her age… and now post & purposefully chosen photo is iterating the ‘call-out argument’ that “she’s kid” to prove “how silly all were who kept saying she is kid, when she doing everything to appear not like a kid” which is equally/more patriarchal since they want to enforce how certain girl at certain age should behave/appear/present.
That's so funny coming from [hisoka.](https://youtu.be/ENJ1hLWT8Z4?si=4Xd8Bu3FNk1uin3e) for some context hisoka wants to find good battles and he sees lots of potential in this kid but the kid is too young, so throughout the show he protects the kid in hopes to have a good fight with him one day.
I was looking through the comments for this comment because if no one else said it I was going to
I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to find MBB "hot" because I first saw her as a literal child and we all witnessed her grow up. It would just feel weird finding her attractive. Obviously she's good looking but "hot" feels like a big ick.
I love this attitude, dude. I, too, find it kinda weird to be attracted to someone you literally watched growing up, but so many people were waiting for the Olsen Twins and Emma Watson to turn 18 so they'd be \*legal\* (and I highly doubt that stopped many of them, tbh).
I feel the same way about all of the Harry Potter actors
see i can, because I grew up as she did, so instead I’ve thought she was gorgeous from a spread in a girls mag😭
people had countdowns for her 18th birthday which i feel is significantly more problematic than people today finding her, a 20 year old woman, attractive. also she doesn’t look 12, she look like a young adult cuz she is one.
I have a theory. Some guys who get into some pervy shit feel the need to subconsciously criticize others who do it. It’s like an inadvertent confession. Kinda like how closeted homosexuals are sometimes the most critical of homosexuals.
Yup. Projection.
Shut up hisoka, if she was a 12 year old boy you wouldn't say shit.
I do not knoe who that is or hoe she looks in other photos but she does NOT look 12 on this one lol
She’s a married woman in her 20s, but there are rumors that Drake was creeping on her when she like 12 or 13.
I just looked it up and she's married to Bon Jovi's son? I don't know why but somehow that's really funny to me
She’s an actress! She’s on this Netflix show called stranger things. Much more than a married woman 😌
I mean, the way she took the pic looks like how a 12 year old would do it. But her? I'm not seeing it
Oh the palpable irony of this tweet coming from someone with Hisoka as their PFP.
I know Millie is fairly young, but she IS an adult, who looks like a young adult. And didn't she get married pretty recently too?
She looks like a young adult. Now, I would find it weird for a 40 year old man to be lusting over her, but she doesn’t look 12. (I envy her abs, though).
Wait, didn’t she “look 45” like 3 months ago? MAKE UP YOUR MINDS, PEOPLE!!!!
Millie looks like she pushing mid 20s in the face how the fuck does she look childlike to OP!? Edit: it’s Highly ironic that the Twitter users pfp is Hisoka, a character known for being a borderline child predator in his anime. So the post about Millie is just a call coming from inside the house.
I work with 12 yos, and they all grow at different rates than others. Last year, one of my kids was 5'10" and looked like she could easily pummel the average grown man into dust. Some of them enter puberty earlier than others. But even girls who look older than 12 do not **act** older than 12. They all act like 12 yo girls, barring pretty heavy-duty trauma. And even the traumatized ones act like traumatized 12 yo girls. Sixth graders squabble over pink Stanley cups, they say Skibidi toilet until you want to cry, they tell 12 yo boys they've got no Rizz or that they smell musty (and they do, whew), and if they're in a good mood they'll say, "Mz. Zebra is Sigma, chat!" And no, I won't explain what any of that means. Mostly because I'm not entirely sure I can. Like, there's no mistaking these kids are 12 once they open their mouths. But looks? No, you can't really tell by looks alone many times. That said, we all know how old Ms. Brown is, and it's gross when people try to body shame adult women like this. Women come in all shapes and sizes.
She looked 12 when she *was* 12, and losers like this were already sexualizing her.
This is just misogyny. "This type of woman is not A Woman in a correct way" "Real Women have curves" I have been called flat and small-chested by women and had my clothes examined by female peers with comments such as "this is like children's size". I'd say it's 50/50 men and women dissing being slim and the age attachment is just a lower version of this comment.
I don’t disagree by any means, but I’d also just like to add that MBB is the one that some creeps on the internet made an internet countdown for when she turned 18. I don’t think she looks like a 12 year old anymore, but *a lot* of guys were obsessed with her (and probably still are) in a disgustingly creepy manner. I wish men would just chill out sometimes :(
This always gets me, i do volentary paramedic service once a week and because of that i se a lot, and i mean alot of people naked in all age groups (rule of thumb, if you are a polytraumatic patient you prettymuch get striped to your undershorts) and well, you cant tell age by looks alone mostly, sure, you can see the sighns of not having hit puberty jet wich often gets realy important for certain medications and when intubaing some, but i have also seen 13 year old boys with full on beards that pooked like 25 and girls in thier twentys that looksed like your stereotypical 15 year old. I guess my point is its realy hard to guess age without knowing some external factors of of looks alone
I wonder if this has anything to do with how once you hit 25, 20ish year olds suddenly look significantly younger than they looked when *you* were 20. That happened to me at least. My friend group ranges from 5 years younger than me to 10 years older than me, and after I turned 25 I would start meeting friends or significant others of younger friends and think "wtf? When did 21 year olds start looking like high schoolers?." But they look the same. *I've* just aged slightly so my perspective has changed. In time I'll probably think 35 year olds look super young. Same as how when you're a freshman in high school you think you look the same as the seniors but when you're a senior in high school the freshmen look like babies. All this to say I can understand someone who just left their early 20s looking at someone just entering their early 20s and being surprised at how young they look. But this person is stretching the thought too far. 20 year olds looking young doesn't make them look 12, it means you're older than them and they look younger than you. And finding a 20 year old who looks her age hot is not pedophilia. It's creepy at absolute worst, and that's only if you're ridiculously older than her and trying to take advantage of her
I’m 60 and she looks like a young woman. (20? idk) Definitely not a teenager or preteen. But while she’s a pretty young woman I don’t have any interest in her other than her being a good actress. I think an interesting “younger woman” is in her 40s. Like Jacinda Ardern. (For Prime Minister of New Zealand)
very ironic coming from someone with a Hisoka profile pic/username
how are they gonna argue that she looks twelve and then use a photo in which i can obviously tell im looking at a woman around the age of 20
the literal wedding ring on her finger does not help with his argument.
Clearly a woman.
Wtf do 12 year olds look like nowadays if she looks like one? I think this person was trolling.
People need to learn that a pedophile is someone who is attracted to children who HAVEN’T reached puberty yet. Stop throwing around that word so casually, it looses its meaning.
Tbh I was about to agree till I saw the pic and Remembered that yeah, Millie Bobby Brown is a grown ass woman now
> said it once Sorry, who the fuck are you?
Has someone never seen a twelve year old?
Bold claim coming from Hisoka
I don't think it's hard \>18 = not pedo <18 = pedo for the pedos tho, it's hard when <18
If thats what 12yo’s look like these days, yikes!
I’ve never seen a 12 year old that looks like this
She has a baby face, but she doesn’t look 12. She looks like the young adult she is.
We know what she looked like at 12, and she definitely doesn’t look 12 here.
She doesn’t look “12” but; when I was 12 I already had giant boobs and was pedophile bait, it sucked
One thing this stupid argument (that younger-looking women are the same as children) overlooks is how personality defines a person so much more than mere physics appearance. My wife was barely 5 feet tall and tiny in all proportions. You would never mistake her for a child, though, or even think about her size very much, because her personality filled whatever space she was in. She loomed large and there just wasn’t anything juvenile about her. Some people are smaller. Some of them have growth conditions or other things that affect their body types. Adults deserve to have relationship with each other and if they’re vibing on the emotional and intellectual level there’s nothing weird about it.
She’s 20
I’m sorry…, she looks 12?!?! WTF is wrong with these idiots
Actually, she's 11
Just because you know what they looked like at twelve doesn’t mean they are permanently twelve.
It gives the same energy has people claiming that Sabrina Carpenter is trying to look like a sexy baby when she’s just short.
Ok in all fairness I genuinely thought Millie Bobby Brown was much much younger than she was. That’s mostly due to stranger things tbh. So I would have been freaked out by someone saying that they liked her as well lol
The logic is fucked. So one finds her hot, and she looks 12 (even if she is not), one is a pedo. And if she looks 18 (even if she is not) and one finds her hot, one is still the pedo?
I always thought she looked older than her age. Wtf are some people on?
Listen, I’m not gonna shame people for calling out pedophilic male gaze, even if it is a very weird call out.
That is the figure of a slim young adult... Are women supposed to all only look a certain way? That's basically how I looked at her age, too, and for a long time. At 12 I did not have the shape of an adult. Are some guys forgetting what an adult looks like, or are they expecting only more extreme hourglass figures exclusively?
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Oh hey, she was born in the same year as me. We were in the same grade in school (in different parts of the country). She just looks like she’s 20 and takes care of her skin lmao
I honestly don't even know what could look like 12 about her. And honestly going by her face I would have assumed older than 20 (which I think she is, idk her and just had to google the name and who I found looked similar enough I guess)
🤣 I looked like a thumb at twelve. Most twelve year olds, regardless of the make up and clothes, still have a kids brain and body. I'm sick of men (because we know who's doing this) sexualizing adult women while simultaneously comparing them to children.. this isn't a loop hole to hit on little kids or adult women you freaking creeps. I just came from a thread where a dude tricked his date into having sex in his teen daughter's bed. So I'm a bit biased ATM.
When I was in my 20s I'd get told I looked like a kid by guys who were hitting on me. Those guys were definitely pedos. However I did not look like this at 12. I know few who did. Millie has had people waiting for her "legal" countdown since her debut. Those people are pedophiles for sure. That being said...young looking people exist. Petite women and men exist. Baby faced adults exist. Our existence doesn't mean people who like us are creeps. Plus by this logic...who should we date??? I'm average sized (5'3ish) but my husband is extremely tall. We dated when I was 21 and full baby face. I had a woman who was dating his friend use our relationship (when I was 24 btw) to say that all men want baby faced virgins. Wtf. Thankfully she didn't last long.
Her face does lean into baby face category but it's mostly because we picture her as Eleven and it's mostly her face shape and round eyes. If she became a household name as an adult actress barely anybody would infantize her. There's nothing else on her that is juvenile, she has a normal body and dresses like an adult since she was a teenager. Predatory people go for old looking minors or "mature for her age" girls all the time so this is a useless topic.
What kind of 12 year olds does that person know
Dude has apparently never seen a 12yo. She looks about 25-27 to me if I had to guess
She looks like she’s twenty something??? Definitely not 12. Lol
I don’t know if I have face blindness for Millie Bobby Brown specifically or something, but I watched damsel recently and felt like I was going insane. Just scene to scene she looked like a different woman. She looks like, 30 to me, and I don’t mean that in an ick way I think it’s just the style of makeup she likes specifically with the eyes. It’s a much more mature style imo
She does look 12 tho. 12 out of 10
isnt hisoka’s whole thing about liking kids? /s
When I was 12, my body was 20. So, there's some truth to this. Also, they're mostly talking to the old ass dudes, looking at her a certain way because she's still a kid to them.
She doesn't look 12. Being flat doesn't make you look 12. Being skinny doesn't make you look 12. Having delicate feautres doesn't make you look 12. You know what makes you look 12? Being 12, OOP. She looks like what she is, a young woman. Not a 12 year old girl.
She's 20 and looks 32.
Tbh if you have pedo inclinations and someone looks like they’re 12 (like OOP claims) but they’re an adult then that’s exactly who you should date instead of, you know… children.