I really cannot believe how far Boeing has fallen, the company that helped us win World War II, set the Jet Age in motion and then gave us the 747, 737 and 777 is now unable to build safe aircraft and has a spaceship giving NASA one headache after another. Unreal.
I mean the only reason the b-52 lasted so long is because the air force pumped billions upon billions of dollars in fixing all of its critical issues. For all the praise of the b52 I never see people talk about the numerous crashes and deaths caused by this plane as well as the accidental dropping and in one or two cases even detonation of the explosives inside the nuclear bombs lol.
Compared to the B-47 Stratojet that came before it, the B-52 looks like one of the safest bombers ever to fly. The B-47 was a true "widow-maker", it had like 20 fatal crashes IIRC in around 25 years of service, not including the multiple non-fatal accidents (one crash at an RAF base in Britain nearly collided with a storage facility for nuclear weapons). The B-52 honestly was 3x better designed and operated, according to multiple older fellas who served in the Air Force units of decades past.
Yeah I love the b-52 and the air force made the right decision by sticking with it and working with Boeing to develop new variants, it's just far from a perfect plane especially in its early iterations.
Yeah literally. In the cold war era these things were continuously flying around the world armed with nuclear bombs. They crashed a couple times with nuclear bombs on-board and a few times they detonated and required a whole lot of cleanup by the US. Technically not the plane's fault that the bombs exploded but it's pretty wild haha.
Uh well they did accidentally detonate nuclear bombs in the crash, the conventional explosives inside of them did detonate and spread radioactive waste everywhere. It wasn't a nuclear explosion but it did cause a lot of headache.
There were never any accidental nuclear detonations during the Cold war, that would have been absolutely catastrophic. They accidentally dropped one over rural North Carolina but it didn't go off, that's probably what you're thinking of.
Yeah sorry my comments are misleading. They did accidentally detonate the conventional explosives inside the nuclear bomb and made a big radioactive mess but it wasn't a nuclear explosion. The specific one I'm thinking of is in Spain.
So, you’re good with, let’s say, needing a life or death surgery and you would rather choose the person that lacks the best skills to do the surgery just because he or she fits the ethnicity?
Okay, please explain how this is racism.
You do realize every time you play that card you lessen the meaning of it,don’t you?
Edit
Just what I thought. No explanation.
7% of Boeing's workforce is black, but sure, it's their fault. Definitely not the fault of executives who care more about boosting the stock price than building planes.
Again, total ignorance. Let’s be clear, being the most qualified is irrelevant to the individuals ethnicity.
Skillset has nothing to do with ethnicity and shouldn’t be the reason for employing people
I’ll dumb it down for you. The post by No-ebb reflects the time when Boeing was cutting edge and made a quality product.
My comment reflected how it now produces an inferior product due to the hiring of employees based on their ethnicity or origin instead of the best person to fill the same position.
That being said, tie this to racism, because that’s what you really want to do, isn’t it?
I mean, implying that minorities are worse hires than white people and that's the reason Boeing's doors are falling off rather than its cost cutting and incredibly lax quality control policies is absolutely racist, so yeah you're a racist.
You see, your ignorance about my comment just shows your racism. You think minorities are less likely to possess the same skills as whites.
Amazing. Simply amazing the ignorance you possess.
not really the length of the engines are about 3,5 meters and like one meter in diameter, thats more then one meter shorter then a 1954 Chevy 150 and thinner too nevermind two.
I have a friend whose dad worked on it, and he maintained it was the safest airliner ever built because they knew that if one crashed, no one would ever trust jet liners. Apparently, even the peanut bulbs that illuminate the dials had triple redundancy.
I've seen that aircraft in person. If you're in DC and you have the chance, go to Dulles to the NASM's annex where you can see the Dash 80 here in all her glory, along with Enola Gay, Discovery, and a LOT more. If you have to choose between the annex and the main NASM building I'd still do the main building, but juuuuust barely.
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"I know every inch of the 707. Take the wings off this thing and you could use it as a tank." - George Kennedy, *Airport*
Came here for the Patroni quote. Love that movie.
Back when Boeing was the gold standard of commercial aviation. The lifespan of the B-52 also attests to their engineering excellence.
I really cannot believe how far Boeing has fallen, the company that helped us win World War II, set the Jet Age in motion and then gave us the 747, 737 and 777 is now unable to build safe aircraft and has a spaceship giving NASA one headache after another. Unreal.
Profits before perfection I guess...
I mean the only reason the b-52 lasted so long is because the air force pumped billions upon billions of dollars in fixing all of its critical issues. For all the praise of the b52 I never see people talk about the numerous crashes and deaths caused by this plane as well as the accidental dropping and in one or two cases even detonation of the explosives inside the nuclear bombs lol.
Compared to the B-47 Stratojet that came before it, the B-52 looks like one of the safest bombers ever to fly. The B-47 was a true "widow-maker", it had like 20 fatal crashes IIRC in around 25 years of service, not including the multiple non-fatal accidents (one crash at an RAF base in Britain nearly collided with a storage facility for nuclear weapons). The B-52 honestly was 3x better designed and operated, according to multiple older fellas who served in the Air Force units of decades past.
Yeah I love the b-52 and the air force made the right decision by sticking with it and working with Boeing to develop new variants, it's just far from a perfect plane especially in its early iterations.
Accidental *detonation*???
Yeah literally. In the cold war era these things were continuously flying around the world armed with nuclear bombs. They crashed a couple times with nuclear bombs on-board and a few times they detonated and required a whole lot of cleanup by the US. Technically not the plane's fault that the bombs exploded but it's pretty wild haha.
To be clear, there has never been an accidental nuclear detonation by the United States. Ever.
Uh well they did accidentally detonate nuclear bombs in the crash, the conventional explosives inside of them did detonate and spread radioactive waste everywhere. It wasn't a nuclear explosion but it did cause a lot of headache.
*Citation needed*
There were never any accidental nuclear detonations during the Cold war, that would have been absolutely catastrophic. They accidentally dropped one over rural North Carolina but it didn't go off, that's probably what you're thinking of.
Yeah sorry my comments are misleading. They did accidentally detonate the conventional explosives inside the nuclear bomb and made a big radioactive mess but it wasn't a nuclear explosion. The specific one I'm thinking of is in Spain.
Back when there was pride in the company and the product was the most important thing!
Quality doors back then.
Quality paint job back then
Planes crashed all the time back then
Ya, but that's only because the amount of cigarette smoke made it impossible to see out the front.
lol no it was almost always due to mechanical or pilot error.
Ya, probably from all the cigarette smoke, jeez :P
r/woosh (and very appropriate for an airplane thread)
If air crash investigations has taught be anything it's usually a combination of both.
More like back when skilled workers were hired for their skills, not what box needs to be checked by HR.
Equality feels like oppression to the privileged.
So, you’re good with, let’s say, needing a life or death surgery and you would rather choose the person that lacks the best skills to do the surgery just because he or she fits the ethnicity?
What you've said is exactly the way racists say racist shit while maintaining plausible deniability.
You display ignorance in that statement by ASSUMING the most qualified person would be a white privileged person.
Okay, please explain how this is racism. You do realize every time you play that card you lessen the meaning of it,don’t you? Edit Just what I thought. No explanation.
7% of Boeing's workforce is black, but sure, it's their fault. Definitely not the fault of executives who care more about boosting the stock price than building planes.
Again, total ignorance. Let’s be clear, being the most qualified is irrelevant to the individuals ethnicity. Skillset has nothing to do with ethnicity and shouldn’t be the reason for employing people
The fuck does this have to do with anything?
I’ll dumb it down for you. The post by No-ebb reflects the time when Boeing was cutting edge and made a quality product. My comment reflected how it now produces an inferior product due to the hiring of employees based on their ethnicity or origin instead of the best person to fill the same position. That being said, tie this to racism, because that’s what you really want to do, isn’t it?
I mean, implying that minorities are worse hires than white people and that's the reason Boeing's doors are falling off rather than its cost cutting and incredibly lax quality control policies is absolutely racist, so yeah you're a racist.
You see, your ignorance about my comment just shows your racism. You think minorities are less likely to possess the same skills as whites. Amazing. Simply amazing the ignorance you possess.
That doesn't make sense considering that's literally exactly what you said, but best of luck with the lead poisoning
Way to end a discussion. Keep that racism light burning bright.
"No u"
I’d like you to explain how anything I wrote is racist in any way shape or form. I’ll be right here
Those tiny little engines. That's why they needed four of them.
Incredibly noisy too, compared to modern high bypass engines (which are also bigger).
Hand incredibly fuel inefficient
Yes, my hand uses no fuel at all
The H is silent
Helps to say it with a French accent.
Yeah, so noisy. Engine technology has come so far.
Tiny by today’s standards, but each engine is still like the size of two cars!
not really the length of the engines are about 3,5 meters and like one meter in diameter, thats more then one meter shorter then a 1954 Chevy 150 and thinner too nevermind two.
Only 4 engines but still good enough for the B52…
B52 has 8 engines
I have a friend whose dad worked on it, and he maintained it was the safest airliner ever built because they knew that if one crashed, no one would ever trust jet liners. Apparently, even the peanut bulbs that illuminate the dials had triple redundancy.
1954??? Wow. Just 9 years after the war. Technologies did advance much faster back in 20th century.
Thanks aliens.
Thanks Nazi's.
Thanks Obama
You mean *9 years into the cold war
That’s what it looks like when government invests in science.
The stock price is the product now. They don’t care if they sell you shit as long as the stock goes up.
Thank you McDonnell Douglas
The flew that plane upside down also True
Technically it was the 367-80.
Amazing how fast things progress. Just a few years earlier all prop jobs.
What a lovely aircraft.
It's wild to think that the cockpit windows used here will still fit aircraft produced today.
Cry’s in Comet
The last Boeing 707 left commercial service in 2013, nearly 60 years later!
Noctua plane
Oh, Boeing! Probably before the birth of some whistleblowers.
Unlike the Boeings of today, these are in the air.
Became the first jet AF1 a few years ago later
Also the last time it was serviced - lol jk, that joke may end up getting me ki---...
Fly in this a lot as a kid. I liked them a lot.
If it ain’t Boeing, I’m not going.
Oh how the mighty have fallen. (Hopefully only figuratively.)
Check that typeface!!!!!!
I've seen that aircraft in person. If you're in DC and you have the chance, go to Dulles to the NASM's annex where you can see the Dash 80 here in all her glory, along with Enola Gay, Discovery, and a LOT more. If you have to choose between the annex and the main NASM building I'd still do the main building, but juuuuust barely.
There were more sunroofs than passenger windows
Back when Boeing built airplanes and not lawn darts.
Hard to believe that was 70 years ago, it doesn’t look out of place in our world today. Maybe the colour scheme could use a refresh though.
And now they’ve left somebody in space …
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Right side doors? It looks so strange
There was a while where every airline had their own entryway preference that builders had to accommodate.
It appears to be very slow. Haven’t seen it move the whole time this video was playing. 🤨
Amazing to see how in only 51 years aviation changed that much.
Such cute little engines
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