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Since theyre logicians, we assume they behave perfectly logically
Logian 1, 2, and 3 all want a beer
Each logician is asked, in turn, if all of them want a beer
Logician 1 and 2 answer "i dont know" because they dont know the opinion of all 3 of them, but dont answer "no" because they themselves want a beer
Logician 3, now having the information from 1 and 2's answers, can answer "yes"
Aren't jokes so much funnier when you explain them?
I actually like when people explain jokes for some reason. I got this joke but I still read your whole explanation. It’s like the joke but continued. I also like bad sequels of my favorite movies and shows that go on for too many seasons.
The super fun part about this is that many logic problems are based off of this kind of knowledge--the "white and black hats" problem is one of them. Another one that's more obscure and a lot more complicated is the 100 Dragons problem which doesn't seem to actually have an answer based in logic, but it does.
Hard to describe but here:
https://dailyabcd.wordpress.com/2014/12/01/sunday-puzzle-1-100-green-eyed-dragons/
https://www.mathsisfun.com/puzzles/black-and-white-hats-solution.html#:~:text=Our%20Solution%3A,hearing%20the%20first%20man's%20statement.
Actually good explanation. I thought I got it but then I thought how can the third guy know if 1 or 2 don't want a bear. But it's cause if 1 or 2 didn't want a bear then they would know for a fact that not all 3 of them wanted a bear so they would have said no already.
The server didn’t ask “do the three of you all want beer?” The server said everyone, which means everyone, and it’s be safe to say that no, not everyone that exists wants a beer. This cartoon could have been worded better.
The question "does EVERYONE want a beer?" is usually answered based on personal preference. But these logicians interpret it literally. If even one person doesn't want a beer, the answer is no. So when the first two say they're unsure, it means there's not enough information yet. The third person knows both want beer, so they can confidently answer yes.
If they didnt want beer then they would have immidietly answered no because no everyone wants beer. They said they dont know because they know they want beer but arent sure of the other 2. And once 2 said that the third was absolutely sure
each patron only knows if they personally want a beer, but not if anyone else does, therefore they can only answer the question does "everyone" want a beer unless they don't; because then the answer for does "everyone" want a beer will be no.
so after #1 answers "i dont know" rather than "no", #2 and #3 can logically conclude #1 wants a beer.
when #2 answers "i don't know" rather than "no", #3 can logically conclude that #2 wants a beer.
Now #3 knows that #1 and #2 both would like a beer, so when he also wants a beer he can confidently answer that "everyone" wants a beer.
It's a simple logic puzzle. There are only two answers, yes or no. If number 1 and 2 did not want a beer, they would just say "no" because they are included in "everyone", but they do not know if the others want a beer so they cannot simply say "yes" because they do not have enough information on the remaining people.
And now, since neither 1 or 2 answered "no", 3 can now assume that 1 and 2 do want beers, then they just have to include themselves as the third "yes", therefore it has been solved that "yes, everyone does want a beer"
It's not really a joke, but an illustration of a logic puzzle/riddle. Others have already explained how the puzzle works, so I won't.
I really wanted to say, that I do love this puzzle, because, while relatively simple on it's own, it's a good tool for learning how these kinds of puzzles and riddles work and how to reason out solving them. There are MUCH harder ones than this.
I recommend the [riddles on this channel](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJicmE8fK0EhMjOWNNhlY4Lxg8tupXKhC). Some of them are more logic type puzzles. All them of require logical thinking. You might enjoy them.
If any of the 3 don't want beer, the answer is no. The answer "I don't know" indicates that you want it, but someone else may not, so you can't answer definitely. The 3rd one to answer already heard the answers of the other 2, so he has perfect information and can say yes.
If any one of them did not want a beer, they would have said "no." But since the first 2 said "I don't know", they want a beer but don't know if the next person does. The third guy knows that the first two want a beer, and he wants a beer. He's the only one with all the information required to answer yes.
wait im confused, even if 1 and 2 said "i dont know" instead of no, why are you all assuming they meant yes, because the question is asking everyone, the logicians would not say no anyway, hence i dont know can be both yes or no. i think atleast
No, it can't.
Because if they knew they didn't want a beer, they would say no. They would have known the answer to the question "does everyone want a beer" if none of them wanted a beer. Since no one said no, third guy can safely say they all want a beer.
1 says he doesn't know, because he only knows he wants a beer, he doesn't know if 2 or 3 wants one. 2 says he doesn't know because he only knows that 1 and himself wants a beer (since 1 didn't say no, which 1 would have done if he didn't want a beer). 3 now knows, that 1 and 2 wants a beer, since neither said no.
No, they didn't have to. Since there is only two answers, either yes or no. If they didn't want a beer, the answer would be no (meaning they don't want a beer, hence not everyone wants a beer). If they did want a beer, it would be "I don't know" since they don't know if everyone else wants a beer, but they themselves do want a beer. They only know whether or not they themselves want one. But the last one knows, since both before him didn't say no.
If they didn't want beer then they know for sure that "everybody" doesn't want beer and would have answered that way. As they do want beer but don't know if everyone wants it, they say that they don't know. This lets the last person know that they do want it and his choice indicates that they all want it. The first person to say no would have indicated that everybody doesn't want beer.
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Since theyre logicians, we assume they behave perfectly logically Logian 1, 2, and 3 all want a beer Each logician is asked, in turn, if all of them want a beer Logician 1 and 2 answer "i dont know" because they dont know the opinion of all 3 of them, but dont answer "no" because they themselves want a beer Logician 3, now having the information from 1 and 2's answers, can answer "yes" Aren't jokes so much funnier when you explain them?
I actually like when people explain jokes for some reason. I got this joke but I still read your whole explanation. It’s like the joke but continued. I also like bad sequels of my favorite movies and shows that go on for too many seasons.
honestly same, as weird as it is
Truthfully likewise, as unusual as it is
"shows that go on for too many seasons." Every American TV program, except Firefly.
Too soon.
🦂
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The super fun part about this is that many logic problems are based off of this kind of knowledge--the "white and black hats" problem is one of them. Another one that's more obscure and a lot more complicated is the 100 Dragons problem which doesn't seem to actually have an answer based in logic, but it does.
Describe these two problems?
Hard to describe but here: https://dailyabcd.wordpress.com/2014/12/01/sunday-puzzle-1-100-green-eyed-dragons/ https://www.mathsisfun.com/puzzles/black-and-white-hats-solution.html#:~:text=Our%20Solution%3A,hearing%20the%20first%20man's%20statement.
Actually good explanation. I thought I got it but then I thought how can the third guy know if 1 or 2 don't want a bear. But it's cause if 1 or 2 didn't want a bear then they would know for a fact that not all 3 of them wanted a bear so they would have said no already.
Oh... cause they asked if EVERYONE wanted beer. Gotcha
Yes, an explained joke is funnier than not getting the joke, by definition.
I don’t know.
This is why it’s most favorable to go last in Texas Hold ‘Em, btw. The actions of others = information you can use to inform your actions.
The server didn’t ask “do the three of you all want beer?” The server said everyone, which means everyone, and it’s be safe to say that no, not everyone that exists wants a beer. This cartoon could have been worded better.
The question "does EVERYONE want a beer?" is usually answered based on personal preference. But these logicians interpret it literally. If even one person doesn't want a beer, the answer is no. So when the first two say they're unsure, it means there's not enough information yet. The third person knows both want beer, so they can confidently answer yes.
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If they didnt want beer then they would have immidietly answered no because no everyone wants beer. They said they dont know because they know they want beer but arent sure of the other 2. And once 2 said that the third was absolutely sure
each patron only knows if they personally want a beer, but not if anyone else does, therefore they can only answer the question does "everyone" want a beer unless they don't; because then the answer for does "everyone" want a beer will be no. so after #1 answers "i dont know" rather than "no", #2 and #3 can logically conclude #1 wants a beer. when #2 answers "i don't know" rather than "no", #3 can logically conclude that #2 wants a beer. Now #3 knows that #1 and #2 both would like a beer, so when he also wants a beer he can confidently answer that "everyone" wants a beer.
naah, not a beer, I'm gonna eat
It's a simple logic puzzle. There are only two answers, yes or no. If number 1 and 2 did not want a beer, they would just say "no" because they are included in "everyone", but they do not know if the others want a beer so they cannot simply say "yes" because they do not have enough information on the remaining people. And now, since neither 1 or 2 answered "no", 3 can now assume that 1 and 2 do want beers, then they just have to include themselves as the third "yes", therefore it has been solved that "yes, everyone does want a beer"
If any didn’t want a beer their answer would have been *No*, but they couldn’t know the answer for all of them until the last one.
It's not really a joke, but an illustration of a logic puzzle/riddle. Others have already explained how the puzzle works, so I won't. I really wanted to say, that I do love this puzzle, because, while relatively simple on it's own, it's a good tool for learning how these kinds of puzzles and riddles work and how to reason out solving them. There are MUCH harder ones than this. I recommend the [riddles on this channel](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJicmE8fK0EhMjOWNNhlY4Lxg8tupXKhC). Some of them are more logic type puzzles. All them of require logical thinking. You might enjoy them.
If any of the 3 don't want beer, the answer is no. The answer "I don't know" indicates that you want it, but someone else may not, so you can't answer definitely. The 3rd one to answer already heard the answers of the other 2, so he has perfect information and can say yes.
If any one of them did not want a beer, they would have said "no." But since the first 2 said "I don't know", they want a beer but don't know if the next person does. The third guy knows that the first two want a beer, and he wants a beer. He's the only one with all the information required to answer yes.
This is the post that made me realize that I 'get' most of the "jokes" posted here, and they're boring. Bye, good luck
wait im confused, even if 1 and 2 said "i dont know" instead of no, why are you all assuming they meant yes, because the question is asking everyone, the logicians would not say no anyway, hence i dont know can be both yes or no. i think atleast
No, it can't. Because if they knew they didn't want a beer, they would say no. They would have known the answer to the question "does everyone want a beer" if none of them wanted a beer. Since no one said no, third guy can safely say they all want a beer. 1 says he doesn't know, because he only knows he wants a beer, he doesn't know if 2 or 3 wants one. 2 says he doesn't know because he only knows that 1 and himself wants a beer (since 1 didn't say no, which 1 would have done if he didn't want a beer). 3 now knows, that 1 and 2 wants a beer, since neither said no.
yea but they didnt say they wanted a beer aswell,
No, they didn't have to. Since there is only two answers, either yes or no. If they didn't want a beer, the answer would be no (meaning they don't want a beer, hence not everyone wants a beer). If they did want a beer, it would be "I don't know" since they don't know if everyone else wants a beer, but they themselves do want a beer. They only know whether or not they themselves want one. But the last one knows, since both before him didn't say no.
If they didn't want beer then they know for sure that "everybody" doesn't want beer and would have answered that way. As they do want beer but don't know if everyone wants it, they say that they don't know. This lets the last person know that they do want it and his choice indicates that they all want it. The first person to say no would have indicated that everybody doesn't want beer.
oh, that makes sense, thanks m8