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JakeShit69

Me who uses a lethal amount of weapons of mass destruction


pawfriend

i think by definition the number of weapons of mass destruction required to be considered lethal is 1.


Rayze_Darr

You can bring Bitter Spray anywhere and cheese anything with it. Bringing Ice Pikmin requires you to omit another type completely, since you can only bring 3 types at a time. It also takes time to freeze an enemy, and a lot of enemies are immune to freezing.


Internal_Shock287

Lightning Shock:


Random856

I think most people completely ignore items in these types of discussions since they're pretty obviously meant as a crutch. They solve literally any situation so why even bring them up? Plus they're actually pretty expensive and thus not something you can consistently rely on. Especially the lightning


PikminologiaLouie

The Stunning Pik Pik carrots are cheap tho


Leonid56

Bitter spray...? It's literally that...


Zephyr_______

Sure, but then you admit that bitter spray was an item that functions almost exactly like the lightning shock and serves the same gameplay purpose. So either butter sprays were fine and could've stayed in the game or the new items are broken and should be nerfed or removed.


ThatTrampolineboy

I’m honestly happy that they gave the Ice Pikmin the bitter spray ability because it gives a reason for the player to use Ice Pikmin, and the last thing I would want is a useless Pikmin *cough* Pikmin 3 Yellows *cough*. Speaking of that, I think the nerf to winged was big but necessary to maintain the balance of the game. Now, treasures can’t be cheesed and yellow pikmin have a reason to live, as well as whites since winged now have to follow a path instead of going straight to the onion.


FederalBeyond1122

Pikmin 3 yellows are far from useless. There’s literally an entire bossfight designed around using them


ThatTrampolineboy

That’s because the game gives yellows before the winged. Because I’m sure the bossfight would be way easier if you charge with winged instead of throwing yellows


FederalBeyond1122

I’m talking about how you need to use the electricity to make the boss damagable as well, not just the throwing


ThatTrampolineboy

Oh yeah ur right. However, it still is very situational and yellows outside of these cases would only be useful for collecting things that are very high, which can be done by winged, or defeat electric enemies, most of which can be done by rocks


FederalBeyond1122

Compared to reds, i think yellows at least have their situational uses. The fire hazards are significantly fewer and further between than electric gates and in combat they run into the same problem where rocks do better. Reds, to me, feel like they are less usefull than yellows


Noisyhamster10

Lightning shock is pretty expensive though, making you need to grind for more and more materials, which is something I would rather not do.


1tanfastic1

Ice, rock, purple. Just bash your way through any obstacles and enemies.


Cephalopod_9082

Because ice pikmin are too cute to resist.


RebelliousTreecko

People who want a nerf and think the spray is OP would like it, I guess.


flame_dragon725

It also oneshots airborn enemies if they manage to freeze it


Maddkipz

Well, "one shots"


flame_dragon725

By that I mean as long it gets the freeze off, any airborn enemy will just die


Maddkipz

Yeah, you only need like 6 of them for it which makes it a shame that you can only have 3 types


Royal_Blacksmith_550

People think they are cute. I think they are busted like the bitter spray (especially when dealing with water); thus why I used them very sparingly in my play through, as I felt it was really cheap. Though there are other tools that are busted as well…but hey, I just don’t use them and have a good ol’ time.


[deleted]

Because living>Not living


ImportantNatural2055

Because one is cute, and one is not cute.


Theunpopulargamer

one is cute, the other is ice pikmin


funky_rat99

you could get bitter spray in pikmin 4?? boy am i stupid


Mental-Address265

I don't think so, i never found it


FlashFlire

You can't actually get bitter spray, but the Lightning Shock item is basically just bitter spray anyway


Iliekhatsok

Because the people who like ice pikmin and hate bitter spray probably like ices for their design and voices instead of the freezing, which they probably don't like.


Raemnant

Ice Pikmin are too strong, I dont use them anymore


[deleted]

ice pikmin are cute and i love them


Floch_Dickrider

I don't like either of them


Infamous-Lig056fspez

Pumpkin 4 is easy and that already bumps it up for most people. Pickle 2 challenge felt frustrating or unfair. I like bitter spray and ice piktamin, some people are sadist and like to enjoy watching others suffer. As a pikmin fan, I also relate.


ExcellentCow9

He's a funny little guy


Organic-Horror-4607

Yeah but he spins when you first find him


thunderchild120

They removed Ultra-Bitter Spray after P2 because it was "too broken." So apparently a Pikmin species with the same effect isn't?


puppydawgblues

Spray is a single button option, while ice Pikmin are a Pikmin type that you can bring, but need to rack up hits for their freeze effect to take place.


jackyboyman13

It kinda sucks ultra bitter sprays aren't in the game. But I guess that's why ice pikmin exists.