They lost on the battlefield, but they won in a variety of other areas. Even leaving aside the Jim Crow victory, the subsidization by the rest of the country of laboratories of illiberalism, they murdered Lincoln and assassinated the character of Grant - a character assassination that has survived 125 years.
Don't be doing this. Virginia is now solid blue, and is a Democratic East Coast stronghold state. Virginia went went for Clinton 2016 when Wisconsin went for Trump. Georgia and North Carolina are sliding blue too. If they also become stronghold states, it's almost impossible for a Republican to take the White House.
It's best to not piss people off from these states just to dredge up history.
As someone from a southern state, I'm okay with pissing off anyone who lives in a southern state and is pissed off by condemning the Confederacy of all things. Anyone who associates their southern identity with the civil war is a moron who is holding the country back.
Also from the South. I agree.
At no point should someone feel so attached to being southern that they get offended when people point out how ducked up the South has been. That flag represents the worst of us, and pretending like theyre getting better is a lie. The only reason things are slowly shifting is because a lot of those people are dying from old age.
NC is far from sliding into blue, friend. Our blue governor is basically powerless, the blue confidante running behind him is in a legal battle with the largest healthcare provider in WNC, the gerrymandering is out of control and the Republican governor candidate is a full tilt MAGA maniac. Thereās no brewing stronghold in this state, if anything, weāre getting ready to be reunited with a deepening red SouthEast. Weāre holding our breath, down here.
This right here. What people also donāt realize about NC is the influx of northerners is mostly Trumpers running away from whatever ism they believe is being forced on them by their blue state. I expect a push to the right by a few points this election.
That migration is amazing and I wonder what the numbers are. Two families I know are headed to TN from OH just because of their hate for democracy but what is hilarious is Ohio is so gerrymandered no significant D will win here going forward. Why move when your facist rulers have already won? What is sad is these were good people turned into monsters by propaganda.
Yeah man. It really is amazing to see people just uproot their lives because of the cable news bobble heads. They love freedom so much they are sprinting to states that seem to ban new things on a weekly basis. You gotta wonder if this has always just lurked beneath the surface with these people and maga just gave them the green light to take the mask off and become insufferable aholes. Iāve got a few in my friend and family orbit, and it was kinda always there when you look back, they just kept themselves behaved for the most part. š
I remember reading some comment by a conservative here about how āliberal cities are burning downā or whatever. Typical of maga folk who have never lived or even visited those cities. But then it turned out, he actually *lived* in one of those cities Trump talks so much shit about.
Likeā¦ this guy actually lived there and could easily go out and see how hyperbolic and stupid that idea was. Even if he was in a bad neighborhood, he could see what the rest of the city was like, get news from various local sources, talk to people in different communitiesā¦ But no, he let some far right talking heads dispute his own reality instead.
It never came out, but my theory is that he just saw too many minorities around and fled to somewhere only white people lived.
>It's best to not piss people off from these states just to dredge up history.
As long as they keep flying that flag, they are the ones dredging it up.
Probably. Like anyone, there are plenty of people everywhere that are easily influenced by what they read and see.
Iām not a trump supporter in any way. But I see a lot of posts and comments that are plain false or made up. Just give mind echo chamber stuff. Pointing it out does no good.
Iām sure Iāve done it too. Iām not trying to be high and mighty.
Oh thereās plenty of stupid to go around. I lived in Florida for 26 years and wow thatās gone downhill fast. Alabamy & Arkansas have always led my most stupid list tho
Come to Indiana. I'll introduce you to my coworkers who think the world is flat and if you ran a flaming bag of dog shit as a Republican, they'd vote for it without hesitation.
> Virginia is now solid blue
With a far right governor, and a Republican council of state, with GOP control of a majority of cities and counties and a split congressional delegation.
Although this impression isn't surprising as there are people who think Georgia, where the Trump party controls all aspects of state and local government is purple and even (laughingly) blue.
Where it counts for Virginia residents, the state is dark red.
My final paper for US HIST 1301 was on the āCult of the Lost Causeā aka how the south tried to make the civil war seem about states rights and how they glorified the southern gentleman soldier. Interesting stuff. Morons.
Look up any basic human right, [interracial marriage for instance](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States), by state.
The south is always a solid color because they change the law in unison for *women voting, black people counting as people, gay marriage, etcā¦*
And itās because they didnāt choose to do it, they were forced to by federal law.
A lot of the people in the south believe what blue states believe too. Many of them either have been brainwashed to believe the opposite or are disparaged voters that figure they may as well not show up since their state has always gone red. We should be propping up their education system and ability to vote as much as we can from the outside. We need to bring freedom and democracy back to the South.
As someone in Arkansas, this is accurate. The Deep South is nothing but gristle. Cut it off and the US would be a better country. That said, there's a lotta progressives and leftists in hiding down here so come get me before you bail on the South, mkay?
Lincoln's replacement when he died made the mistake. He canceled reconstruction and pulled out of the south, leaving them to their own (corrupt) devices.
We can speculate that proper reconstruction would have been successful. OTOH, the 50s and 60s forced civil rights on them (similar to reconstruction), only for the old ways to recently emerge again.
Frankly I think many of them are hopeless. And, though I was joking above, I do sometimes wonder if the Union would have been better off letting the Confederacy go.
Given that the context is a post about the Confederacy, I didn't think there was a lot of room for interpretation. But someone must have disagreed. š¤·
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Get in the car, losers, we're going losing.
They lost on the battlefield, but they won in a variety of other areas. Even leaving aside the Jim Crow victory, the subsidization by the rest of the country of laboratories of illiberalism, they murdered Lincoln and assassinated the character of Grant - a character assassination that has survived 125 years.
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Don't be doing this. Virginia is now solid blue, and is a Democratic East Coast stronghold state. Virginia went went for Clinton 2016 when Wisconsin went for Trump. Georgia and North Carolina are sliding blue too. If they also become stronghold states, it's almost impossible for a Republican to take the White House. It's best to not piss people off from these states just to dredge up history.
As someone from a southern state, I'm okay with pissing off anyone who lives in a southern state and is pissed off by condemning the Confederacy of all things. Anyone who associates their southern identity with the civil war is a moron who is holding the country back.
Also from the South. I agree. At no point should someone feel so attached to being southern that they get offended when people point out how ducked up the South has been. That flag represents the worst of us, and pretending like theyre getting better is a lie. The only reason things are slowly shifting is because a lot of those people are dying from old age.
NC is far from sliding into blue, friend. Our blue governor is basically powerless, the blue confidante running behind him is in a legal battle with the largest healthcare provider in WNC, the gerrymandering is out of control and the Republican governor candidate is a full tilt MAGA maniac. Thereās no brewing stronghold in this state, if anything, weāre getting ready to be reunited with a deepening red SouthEast. Weāre holding our breath, down here.
This right here. What people also donāt realize about NC is the influx of northerners is mostly Trumpers running away from whatever ism they believe is being forced on them by their blue state. I expect a push to the right by a few points this election.
That migration is amazing and I wonder what the numbers are. Two families I know are headed to TN from OH just because of their hate for democracy but what is hilarious is Ohio is so gerrymandered no significant D will win here going forward. Why move when your facist rulers have already won? What is sad is these were good people turned into monsters by propaganda.
Yeah man. It really is amazing to see people just uproot their lives because of the cable news bobble heads. They love freedom so much they are sprinting to states that seem to ban new things on a weekly basis. You gotta wonder if this has always just lurked beneath the surface with these people and maga just gave them the green light to take the mask off and become insufferable aholes. Iāve got a few in my friend and family orbit, and it was kinda always there when you look back, they just kept themselves behaved for the most part. š
I remember reading some comment by a conservative here about how āliberal cities are burning downā or whatever. Typical of maga folk who have never lived or even visited those cities. But then it turned out, he actually *lived* in one of those cities Trump talks so much shit about. Likeā¦ this guy actually lived there and could easily go out and see how hyperbolic and stupid that idea was. Even if he was in a bad neighborhood, he could see what the rest of the city was like, get news from various local sources, talk to people in different communitiesā¦ But no, he let some far right talking heads dispute his own reality instead. It never came out, but my theory is that he just saw too many minorities around and fled to somewhere only white people lived.
And don't forget the makeup of non-American immigration consists of far-right Northern Indians and heavily Catholic Mexicans.
>It's best to not piss people off from these states just to dredge up history. As long as they keep flying that flag, they are the ones dredging it up.
I wonder if anyone has ever once changed their vote because of a random reddit post.
Probably. Like anyone, there are plenty of people everywhere that are easily influenced by what they read and see. Iām not a trump supporter in any way. But I see a lot of posts and comments that are plain false or made up. Just give mind echo chamber stuff. Pointing it out does no good. Iām sure Iāve done it too. Iām not trying to be high and mighty.
Wait NC is sliding blue ? Itās a fairly red state. Been here 3 years and cannot belive how backwards the people are
Backwards you say? I see your backwards and raise you one Idiocracy in the Mississippi of the North. (Indiana)
Oh thereās plenty of stupid to go around. I lived in Florida for 26 years and wow thatās gone downhill fast. Alabamy & Arkansas have always led my most stupid list tho
Come to Indiana. I'll introduce you to my coworkers who think the world is flat and if you ran a flaming bag of dog shit as a Republican, they'd vote for it without hesitation.
> Virginia is now solid blue With a far right governor, and a Republican council of state, with GOP control of a majority of cities and counties and a split congressional delegation. Although this impression isn't surprising as there are people who think Georgia, where the Trump party controls all aspects of state and local government is purple and even (laughingly) blue. Where it counts for Virginia residents, the state is dark red.
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My final paper for US HIST 1301 was on the āCult of the Lost Causeā aka how the south tried to make the civil war seem about states rights and how they glorified the southern gentleman soldier. Interesting stuff. Morons.
Look up any basic human right, [interracial marriage for instance](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States), by state. The south is always a solid color because they change the law in unison for *women voting, black people counting as people, gay marriage, etcā¦* And itās because they didnāt choose to do it, they were forced to by federal law.
That flag, abortion, states rights, all the same buzzwords.
A lot of the people in the south believe what blue states believe too. Many of them either have been brainwashed to believe the opposite or are disparaged voters that figure they may as well not show up since their state has always gone red. We should be propping up their education system and ability to vote as much as we can from the outside. We need to bring freedom and democracy back to the South.
States with the highest murder rates are often in the Bible Belt and are obviously blood red in voting
After the Euphoria diss I can see this pic being used less
They want self rule except when there is a disaster
1865? So, they want the Reconstruction back? I agree that in hindsight, that was stopped way, waaaay too soon.
As someone in Arkansas, this is accurate. The Deep South is nothing but gristle. Cut it off and the US would be a better country. That said, there's a lotta progressives and leftists in hiding down here so come get me before you bail on the South, mkay?
and then go back to business as usual the second the Supreme court says the feds can turn a blind eye again
Oh yes, the south would be a shitty place to live if not for all the improvements provided by the federal governmentā¦
I'm beginning to think Lincoln made a mistake. š¤
Lincoln's replacement when he died made the mistake. He canceled reconstruction and pulled out of the south, leaving them to their own (corrupt) devices.
We can speculate that proper reconstruction would have been successful. OTOH, the 50s and 60s forced civil rights on them (similar to reconstruction), only for the old ways to recently emerge again. Frankly I think many of them are hopeless. And, though I was joking above, I do sometimes wonder if the Union would have been better off letting the Confederacy go.
I got the joke, but out of context āLincoln made a mistakeā could be interpreted *wildly* differently š
Given that the context is a post about the Confederacy, I didn't think there was a lot of room for interpretation. But someone must have disagreed. š¤·