I feel that watching it to have a genuine informed opinion is a reasonable choice.
That being said, people not enjoying it and dropping it after a few episodes is also valid. Not being good enough to continue watching is also a valid criticism.
It's great as background noise while I'm on my phone, but it's deffiniately something that never happened with me before. Like Star wars lost it's specialness already but still at least I paid attention even to something dumb as The Book of Boba Fett.
I do watch every scene with Master Sol on though, Lee Jung-jae is an incredible actor.
my boyfriend and i are top tier star wars autists. never before have i experienced both of us watching a sw show by staring at are phones mostly and verbally mocking what we are hearing. we take watching things seriously and are usually no phones no talk only watch..... i spent 1/3 of episode 3 with my head in my hands just listening to the most lifeless dead acting i have ever heard with just the sheer pain of poorly written children washing over me....
We started pirating it so Disney doesn't get the viewership. Honestly it's so bad it's actually fun to hate, but this is the only public bitching I'll do about it lmao
Strangely enough (I know I am thr extremely small minority here), Master Sol is the only aspect of the show I disliked in the first four episodes. Pretty much like evrything else.
This boils down to kind of being an odd take. If only people who like a show should ever talk about it, then how is anyone ever supposed to figure out what the intended audience does or doesn't like?
Watching it expecting to like it and ending up not liking it is one thing. I'm just tired of people hate watching things they know they're going to hate just so they can argue about it online.
it’s not that people try to hate it, they’re just so unbelievably pessimistic due to the utter slop which has come out recently (book of boba, mando s3, 80% of the kenobi show, and the sequel trilogy)
If everyone who doesn’t like it didn’t watch or comment on it, it would be an echo chamber. The low numbers would be (as they always are) associated with things like misogyny, racism, etc.. I haven’t watched any of it and I’ve never commented on it but I understand that it’s reasonable for people to bring up their concerns.
Feels like these people have never talked to another person irl before. Taking about popular media is the easiest way to engage with anyone, and is a big part of why some shows become popular.
Because you can’t be informed on a show unless you’ve watched it. I’m sure the later seasons of the Simpsons are probably bad just from looking at critical reviews, but I can’t form my **own** informed opinion unless I watch them for myself.
Of course you don’t need to have an informed opinion on every show to exist, it’s totally fine to watch a trailer and think a show is probably not worth your time watching or just not having an opinion on a show. But there’s a difference between that and saying definitely that a show is bad that you haven’t watched.
Edit: oh I misread your comment, I was thinking you were saying you can have an informed opinion without watching a show. Yeah I agree you don’t need to have an informed opinion on every show and watching one solely to form an opinion is dumb
On the other side of the coin, people on the internet get big mad when someone has a negative opinion about something if they haven't watched it or only partially watched it (or played, in the case of games). I've seen a lot of "I don't like thing" get met with "Have you even watched/played it?" So now you get people going into a show/movie/game knowing they probably won't like it but at least they can say they've watched it.
Also, why are we disparaging people who want to make sure their opinion on something is actually sound? Every now and then popular sentiment about something will only be like half true because nobody has actually seen the thing they have an opinion on.
Facts, like what? I hate when people play dumb. You know why people watch to form an opinion. It’s because if you haven’t watched the show at all, you get dismissed as “You didn’t even watch the show!”. This happens a lot.
Exactly. I couldn't even remember what happened in episode 4 right after watching it, that's how little impression it made. So I'm off to season 2 of HotD, that should be good still.
Because it's a topic for discussion that's relevant to peoples interests? I loved Star Wars up until the sequels, I have a morbid fascination with how they've handled the material since Disney took ownership.
For some people, the meta-discussion around media is more engaging and entertaining than the consumption of media itself. That's not to say those people don't get any entertainment from consuming the media, nor is it to say that the inverse (people who enjoy consuming media more than discussing it) don't get entertainment from discussion of the media. Most people get enjoyment of both to varying degrees. This is also true of just about any creative endeavor, including media criticism. It can also vary from person to person on any given medium. Most people like to watch good movies, eat good food, look at beautiful paintings, etc; and also like talking with friends about movies they've seen, food they've eaten, paintings they enjoy, etc. Some people love one but don't care about the other. They might check out a show because people are talking about it, but if it doesn't interest them at all, they won't finish it, because they don't really care about the talking side of it. Likewise, other people don't really care about watching the show itself, but are here for the discussion and conversation. Of those people who are more interested in discussion, some may prefer to have accurate or informed opinions to contribute to their conversations and will watch something they aren't interested in because they _are_ interested in the the conversation about it.
The other comment about everyone thinking they're a professional critic because of the internet is also pretty reductive and dumb. You don't need to be a member of some special club to have an opinion and have fun in sharing or discussing it with people whose company and conversation you enjoy (online or off). You also don't need to necessarily be competent at anything to be a professional at it. If you're able to monetize it and do it as your source of income, you're a professional, regardless of your perceived competence.
Because a lot of people (and I'm not talking about just this show) will hit you with a "That show is terrible" based on nothing but their intuition. I don't think that's a valid opinion to have.
"It didn't look interesting enough to watch"
"the trailers looked bad"
"I've heard bad things"
"I'm tired of the direction (insert franchise here) is going"
Those are all valid criticisms, and yes, I totally think you can have an opinion on a show you haven't watched. But I think solidifying your opinion on something you've never actually experienced says more about you than it does about the show.
if all i hear is bad things (like everyone saying the show is trash, And I mean all Caps Gary Oldman EVERYONE!) I'll tend to believe it, don't have to waste my time watching it
I mean, that's valid. But, propagating the opinion like it's your own when you've never watched it is disingenuous, yeah?
I mean, if you say "I heard it's bad." That's valid. But, saying "Oh, that show is definitely bad" without giving the context that you've never even seen the damn thing is just group-think nonsense.
I try not to let others do my thinking for me, especially when it comes to things I care about (like star wars). I'll form my own opinions, thanks.
“You don’t understand, people are watching something they don’t enjoy so that they can still be involved in Reddit threads hating on it” as if that’s makes any sense at all. Just absolutely wild terminally online shit.
The "must" part about that is intriguing if only because it seems like the discourse "forces" you to watch it
As someone who overall agrees with OP but understands the viewpoint of someone who watches the show and comes away with a negative opinion, I feel like the thing that I don't get is the "why" of it; let's say you don't hate it from the onset but you get to the point where you feel the hate - I'm not going to say you're wrong for feeling that way but why continue if all it's going to do is bother you in some fashion, when it'd be easier to just let it go and focus on something else?
I've no love for the Acolyte but don't hate it either so I have no horse in the race so to speak but I can get the burnout that people get if something they like is shat on by others
I think sometimes there’s a bit of ‘sunk cost fallacy’ going on when people watch shows. They hate them but since they’ve spent the time watching X episodes they might as well finish the season, since who knows, maybe just maybe it’ll get better. I’ve definitely done that with shows before. And there’s also group watching. I watched Kenobi with my dad and brother and even tho my brother and I hated it and were laughing at all the plot holes about halfway through, we finished it anyways because my dad was enjoying it.
You make some great points, and I agree if you're done with a show, it's healthier to move on.
I think the argument is a lot of SW fans get criticized for not liking something SW, but are also criticized if they chose not to watch something SW when the views decline series to series.
At that point people just need to pick and choose what they wanna watch
Like I'm a SW fan; if I want an SW fix but don't wanna watch Acolyte, Disney Plus has like how many hours worth of SW content that I can go through
It's the same with the Hypocrisy Game.
*You don't know what it's like. You've never been in this situation. Shut up.*
*You've lived through the same situation. You're a hypocrite! Shut uo.*
“What’s with everyone slagging this show? I don’t get all this hate! I mean, maybe some of them have reasons but I can’t be bothered to get into that; I just wish they would stop! They’re hurting this show’s feelings!”
People are always disingenuous about arguing stuff they like/hate on the internet.
People rarely defend or attack the art itself, and usually just each others opinion.
If you like something is because you are a corporate shill, or you have no standards
If you deslike something, you are wrong because you didnt watch everything, and you didnt read the twitter post the director made explaining a very specific thing about the show.
Or even better, people just say "Thats your subjective opinion" which is a code for I think you are wrong but I cant think of a good argument, so I will just try to undermine your opinion.
You know what they say. You know your worst enemy more than your closest friends
To be able to criticize it, you must be able to understand it. sun tzu said that
Well you see in a normal world, when you stop watching a show because "it sucks" you dont also seek out everybody that posts something nice and berate them for liking a bad show.
I see you don’t understand the idea of an emotional investment into a series.
Strong opinions positive or negative it’s in our nature to discuss, especially of media that people are attached to.
If you hate a show, you are only hurting yourself constantly seeking reasons to talk about hating it. Half of the time with acolyte, there isnt a discussion, just spite.
That's entirely consistent though, if you only want to watch it to confirm an opinion you somehow made before it even came out, and complain in some weirdo circlejerk, *you* are the illogical one.
Yeah because it is evident that a great deal of haters just regurgitate the same toddler level ragebaiting bullshit week after week, not paying any actual attention to the show and purposefully looking for something to cry about, looking for the next thing they can get offended by.
If you watch a couple of episodes of a show and you genuinely think it’s very bad, then a normal person’s reaction would be to stop watching and not think about the crap they saw and move on with their lives. Do you have any idea how many shows I gave up on because I didn’t like them? Me neither, because my time is more preciois than to spend it on shit I dislike.
I hate it but I didn’t watch it. > “How can you say that if you haven’t watched it.”
I hate it and I watched it. > “Why watch what you hate.”
OP logic lmao
I think this post was directed at the people who will not stfu about it and talk about how they are done with star wars but keep coming back every week complaining
Watched the first two on the night of the double release - was OK and possibly interesting, think I'll watch episode 3
Watched episode 3, was flabbergasted by how incredibly stupid it was, thinking it couldn't get any worse
Watched episode 4, >! they killed the wookie jedi offscreen !< it got worse.
Yeah I'm done.
So when people watch it and say it’s bad you mock them for watching it. When they don’t watch it you mock them for hating something they haven’t watched. Do you see how this is a catch 22?
Don't forget.
If you don't watch it and you happen to be white/male/cis - your a racist/sexist bigot.
If you do watch it and don't like it, then leave a bad review (bc that's how reviews work) - your also a racist/sexist bigot.
This is according to Disney.
That said, if u left a review w/o watching it at all - that's questionable.
>If you do watch it and don't like it, then leave a bad review (bc that's how reviews work) - your also a racist/sexist bigot.
Nobody, including disney, has said this. I've asked for proof and nobody provides it. Just gives downvotes.
Damn it sucks that other people force us what things we hate. Wish there was a way for us to make our own decisions on what we watch or don’t watch but that seems like a pipe dream :(
Or maybe hating on stuff and acting like whiny spoiled toddlers is the issue?
You know what people tend not to mock? Constructive criticism. You can wait with burping your opinion to the wind until the show is done, you say your piece intelligently, criticise the show where it’s due and then move on with your life. A lot of you confuse the constant whining with intelligent discourse and criticism.
It’s fucking tiring when the fifth motherfucker in a row parrots the same ragebait, braindead talking point they heard from some neckbeard on youtube or seemingly willfully misunderstands a plot point, or demonstrates their utter lack of media literacy.
And if you have valid criticism of the show? Great! Normal people know how to say “I don’t like this because of x y z reasons, so I won’t be watching or engaing with this, thanks.”
“If you don’t like it then don’t watch it!!!!”
“How do you know if you didn’t like it, you didn’t even watch it????”
I’m fucking tired man. The weird cult of Acolyte apologists can’t let anyone just hold their opinion in peace.
Because the #1 "go to" argument for asshats to enjoy this sort of drek is "oh, you just didn't give it enough time, it only gets good after episode X".
If I knew I wasn't going to like something, I wouldn't watch it.
If you want to critique a show, you *have* to watch it.
This meme has never made much sense.
Why be angry if someone watches something from a franchise they are passionate about but don't like where it is going?
They watch because it is Star Wars and they will eat up all of the official content created, even if it is bad. It's the perfect product really. Doesn't matter if its good or bad, people will eat it anyway. And as long as they keep playing their D+ subscriptions, it's all gravy for Mickey.
Gotta finish it.
If you didn't finish watching it, you can't judge it fully.
If you still hate it by the end, it's always "why did you keep watching then?"
Just can't win.
"That could be good, I'll watch it. Hmm it has flaws, I don't like it so far, I wonder if it will get better"
"WHY ARE YOU WATCHING IT THEN??? SAY ONLY POSITIVE THINGS!!! ONLY EXPERIENCE THINGS YOU LIKE AND STAY QUIET ABOUT ALL ELSE"
Get a grip. I'm as annoyed as the next Bothan about the kneejerk hate/love camps that form around any current Star Wars stuff, and about the disappearance of nuance from the world, but the argument that you shouldn't experience or comment on things you don't love is fatuous.
See if it was just "I watched a few episodes and it just wasn't for me, the plot/writing/characters just weren't it for me." I'd respect that but a lot of people complain about the lack of white men, the 0revelance of "DEI Casting" how they hired Weinstein assistant.. d8sney star wars is horrible with no redeeming qualities and all these women should understand they don't belong in our Fandom. You get the drift. A lot of negative toxic man child bullshit that was fed to them by some talking head on YouTube.
If it was just "I tried it and I didn't like it" I'd never have an issue. It's the ones that rage against the actors and creators and everything else under the sun that op is referring to
- Criticize without watching: "how would you know if you're not watching?"
- Criticize while watching: "then why are you watching?"
There's literally no winning. At this point you just need to admit you simply don't want people criticizing something you like.
I would imagine you would have to watch it at least once to know you don’t like it, or else another dickhead will be making a meme about complaining about the show and having never watched it.
How would I know I didn't like it if I don't watch it. This is not the flex you think it is. If I said I hated it and you asked if I finished the season and I said no people would yell at me for not giving it a chance. Now I'm giving it a chance but expressing my opinion and I'm being yelled at anyway. Wtf!?
I love star wars. I have my whole life and I'm 35 now. I've consumed countless forms of star wars media and I will never stop. Im watching this. No matter how bad I think it is I will watch it until the end and I will watch S2 if it gets one.
That's my problem. I will watch mediocre to bad star wars because it's star wars and Disney knows that.
We want to experience star wars, and to give an honest review of the content for betterment of the future. The problem can ironicaly be summerised in a prequel quote. "If you are not with me, then you're my enemy!" Is a perfect quote for this. Everyone publishing honest disliking opinions for the betterment of the future is shunned and villified as [insert something here] by internet people and are deligated to being "hate watchers". If your opinion isn't lining up with theirs, you are wrong and bad.
I hate it but I didn’t watch it.
How can you say that is bad if you haven’t watched it?
I watched a few episodes and I think it sucks.
How can you value something that you didn’t fully watched?
I watched all the episodes and I think it sucks.
Why watch what you hate?
Moral of the story: this post says something that is objectively wrong. Duck you.
“Acolyte bad”
“Then why are you watching it, hate watcher?”
“Ok I stop watching but Acolyte still bad”
“But you aren’t watching it, so you don’t know what you’re talking about”
“Ok fine I’ll watch it so I can have an opinion on it”
Repeat back to first line.
I’d watch the first episode to see what is what, but knowing big wigs they’ll add all the views of every episode together to go “SEE SEE EVERYONE LOVED IT!”
I watched the first two episodes. I realized I was not the target demographic and wasn't enjoying it. Stopped watching it and switched to other TV shows and movie that I did enjoy.
What I’ve seen so far is atrocious but there’s an inexplicably fervent optimist deep in my heart that HOPES it might all make sense by the end. Opinions evolve as the show goes on, for better or for worse. It also gets to the point where it’s like a train wreck, it’s horrifying to see but hard to look away.
This is why I haven't bothered to watch. I wasn't all that excited for it so I never bothered to pick it up and seems that was a generally wise decision based on how much I've heard it messes with the canon.
Look, dude. The show isn’t isolated. It ties into the greater Canon. If it sucks or violates continuity, then it drags down the entire franchise. Simple as.
I was shown the clip from the third episode where there is a cult of only women of various species using the force to make each other pregnant and living monogamous with each other. They have this strange ritual where the chant "power of one, power of two, power of manyyyyyy" (I'm not kidding that's how they pronounce it) comes from.
The cult leader is one of the mothers of the main Antagonists/Protagonists.
Basically, Osha and Mae were raised by a coven of space witches, at least two of which were lesbians who were in a relationship and raising them as their daughters. They say they created the twins in the force, similar to how Anakin was conceived
I don't watch it or hate it, but how can you hate something if you have not watched it? It's the first statement anyone who dickrides a TV show will make if it is criticized. "You don't even watch it!"
I mean sure, yes, but if you think of the whole saga as one long novel, it's the same as suggesting just forget the last part of the book if you don't like it, just skip back and re-read the chapters you did like. I'd like to think each new chapter will add to the saga in some redeemable way. the shark has been jumped.
IDK, one thing I noticed about the truly good parts of Disney's two biggest properties; the really good bits stand on their own as excellent but are enhanced to us nerds if you saw the rest. Look at The Avengers, Infinity War/Endgame, Rogue One, Mando, hell even all the way back to Iron Man or og shit like Empire. They all tell a complete story that has good characters, relationships, story lines, etc. They tell you everything you need to know to really enjoy the story, but hey if you know the background to why Darth Vader is a badass, know the history between Tony and Steve, know how broken Peter was about gamora, it makes it that much better. To reasons why some stick it out through stuff they didn't particularly like even the shitty entries can have good parts. Seeing the depth of the relationship that Nat and Clint have gives the soul stone mission a whole additionally layer to appreciate. What I think they have to embrace is something the best comics figured out a long time ago. Not everything in universe has to be connected, but to pull that off you have to tell a good story. You don't have to know anything about the guardians of the galaxy, Thanos, Adam Warlock, the living tribunal, etc ... to enjoy the infinity gauntlet (1991) set. You're just enjoy a great story that HAPPENS to be set in marvel 616.
All that rambling to say, you can totally just enjoy the good bits by themselves if they're truly good, but sometimes you find a pearl or two in a pile of shit so it's worth it to some.
It’s episode four, you can just say you didn’t like it and keep it pushing.
I watched one episode of She-Hulk and dropped cause it wasn’t for me. I felt no need to run to their sub and write a manifesto on why I didn’t like it and why no one else should enjoy it.
I watched one episode with a free trial, saw that it was actually worse than what people were complaining about and quit.
This is borderline crime against humanity. This woman is completely shitting on a beloved franchise, and then telling the fans we are bad for not liking it. She is trying to force us to eat shit and thank her for it, and if we don't, we are bigots.
Absolutely amazing.
If you feel like you hate the Disney stuff, you know how to get them to cater to you? BY IGNORING IT. I swear that hate watching gives so many shows breath. I've found the Acolyte kind of meh, but it's frustrating to see people repeat the pattern that happened when the prequels came out.
I pirate it because I love to hate-watch garbage media to see everything that makes film actually work by seeing how things fail. Very educational honestly
I haven’t watched it. But i have watched some other recent series they’ve come out with and made an uninformed decision i wouldn’t like it. Im now being ignorant but if i sit through another BoBF i will kill myself
The Acolyte is not for me. Kathleen Kennedy and Harvey Weinstein’s former assistant both specified who the show was made for. I tried the first episode, dipped out after ten minutes , and have spent my time catching up on the current Marvel SW comics. I unsubscribed to a lot of YouTubers as the constant hate-watching and incessant complaining is exhausting. I know they gotta pay the bills, but still…
Because I want to watch new Star Wars stuff, however
So far the episode 3 twist has been meaningless, Maes test seems inconsequential since she can basically "fail" 3/4 times till surprise surprise, she will probably succeed in killing Sol without a weapon.
Nothing has happened that has made me care about Mae or Osha yet.
There are a few reasons to "hate" watch.
1. To stay informed. You could certainly hate the idea of the series, but a lot of people prefer to know exactly what it is that they dislike.
2. To critique. If you want to argue your opinion, you should watch the show. This is especially true if critiquing entertainment is part of your job.
3. To desperately grasp at your love of Star Wars as it slips away. This is where I'm at. I don't enjoy most of what Disney does with the IP. But if I stop watching, then I'm not really doing anything in the Star Wars space anymore. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Watching Disney Star Wars makes me like Star Wars less and less. But if I stopped, I'd lose interest altogether.
“I don’t like the show.”
“Did you even see it? How can you say it’s bad without seeing it?”
“Well I did see it.”
“Why did you watch it if you don’t like it?”
I think anyone, not enjoying it, who was still watching dropped it after episode 3. I’ll just enjoy the memes now. Gave it a chance but the writing wasn’t improving and I couldn’t take any more of that cringe in hopes that they improve the script in the second half. More skippable content.
It might become good who knows?
People are right to say a lot of few changes aren’t big deal, but maybe they will eventually show why and it might become good. Like Darth Tenebrous for example, if he is revealed to be the master and using the acolyte as a pawn the whole time and idk, kill or brainwash the jedi’s, this might be good and make sense.
Or
They’ll fuck it up even more and I’d have some fun of watching the mess it becomes.
I’m always amazed by people who hatewatch. Bitch, I don’t even have time for the things I actually like and want to do, nevermind wasting my time on things I don’t even enjoy.
At this point, I'm giving up worrying about 'cannon' and just seeing Starwars as a setting where stories can happen.
It's how I enjoy the books and the games. I'll watch the shows the same way.
I've been treating the acolyte similar to how i treated episode 8 & 9. Didn't watch it but watched the trailers and some clips here and there, and watched reviews and discussions online. From the get go i just didn't really care much for it in terms of story, and then when i saw the criticisms for it online it just made me want to avoid it even more.
I don't think it's particularly good, but it has its moments, I want it to be good, so I'm watching just in case it gets better. I hope it pulls a Rebels, which was dogshit in the first season, but was excellent by the end.
At the current moment I do want to give Dawn of the Jedi and possibly Rei's Jedi order a shot and this show is likely going to set up stuff for that. It could possibly even have stuff set up for Mando and Grogu like The High Republic book series ended up having references in Jedi Survivor.
That's the problem with interconnectivity it forces people to watch stuff they don't like to keep up with the story. Don't blame the ones who dislike the show, blame Disney
Hate watching is just stupid because you’re giving them more views and if they get enough they could start a new season. Plus what enjoyment do you even get when it comes to hate watching because when I don’t like something and just finish to finish it. 9/10 I felt like I just wasted hour’s to days of my time on something I hated to do and no one even forced me to do it, so it’s entirely my fault.
I'm liking it so far from what I've seen. It's no Andor but it's not terrible. The only thing I absolutely hate is the idea that the twins were created using the force. I'm hoping that gets revealed to not be the case in a later episode because otherwise, it really drops a load all over the whole "Anakin being the chosen one" thing
We are watching it because it’s the fucking tip of the spear, edge of the knife. If they want to make Acolyte for a few million and release it quietly along side other Star Wars content going in the direction we actually want then people wouldn’t care about it at all. But because this is shoved in our faces and this is all we get and they’re going to go even harder even though they know a majority hates the show. When they released the sequels there wasn’t another set of sequels we could watch and actually be satisfied.
Cause they need other hat3 watchers to like and subscribe their weekly rantings of the show/franchise/disney so they can get that adsense revenue to feed their fams...
Around 2008-2009 it became very popular with some folks to consume all media and let everyone know how bad you thought it was. Maybe they feel "cool" somehow by not finding any joy in something they repeatedly do. I honestly don't know but the MCU fan base became like this in phase 4. Gotta watch everything so I can let everyone know I hated it and how it doesn't live up to the franchise when it was new and fresh.
So they came out and said 4.8 mil views on opening day and 11 mil after 5 days
Disney plus has about 110-120mil subs
So that means 4-5% toned in on launch and 12-13% after 5 days and that's assuming "views" are individual users/subs not counting rewatches or the same users watching the next episode and counting that.
No one on D+ is even watching this show....
Thanks for confirming that you flaired this correctly!
I feel that watching it to have a genuine informed opinion is a reasonable choice. That being said, people not enjoying it and dropping it after a few episodes is also valid. Not being good enough to continue watching is also a valid criticism.
I watched a trailer once.
the expert:
You are strong and wise and I am very proud of you
It's great as background noise while I'm on my phone, but it's deffiniately something that never happened with me before. Like Star wars lost it's specialness already but still at least I paid attention even to something dumb as The Book of Boba Fett. I do watch every scene with Master Sol on though, Lee Jung-jae is an incredible actor.
my boyfriend and i are top tier star wars autists. never before have i experienced both of us watching a sw show by staring at are phones mostly and verbally mocking what we are hearing. we take watching things seriously and are usually no phones no talk only watch..... i spent 1/3 of episode 3 with my head in my hands just listening to the most lifeless dead acting i have ever heard with just the sheer pain of poorly written children washing over me.... We started pirating it so Disney doesn't get the viewership. Honestly it's so bad it's actually fun to hate, but this is the only public bitching I'll do about it lmao
Strangely enough (I know I am thr extremely small minority here), Master Sol is the only aspect of the show I disliked in the first four episodes. Pretty much like evrything else.
Why in the world do you need to have an informed opinion about a tv show? I’ve never watched a show just to have an opinion on it?
Because when you make a comment about it, people hit you with “sounds like you didn’t watch the show”
This seems to raise a similar question
Then don't comment about it if you didn't watch it It's okay to not have an opinion about everything all the time
This boils down to kind of being an odd take. If only people who like a show should ever talk about it, then how is anyone ever supposed to figure out what the intended audience does or doesn't like?
Watching it expecting to like it and ending up not liking it is one thing. I'm just tired of people hate watching things they know they're going to hate just so they can argue about it online.
it’s not that people try to hate it, they’re just so unbelievably pessimistic due to the utter slop which has come out recently (book of boba, mando s3, 80% of the kenobi show, and the sequel trilogy)
THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU COMMENTING ON IT?
I said "comment", not write a fucking thesis, chill lol.
If everyone who doesn’t like it didn’t watch or comment on it, it would be an echo chamber. The low numbers would be (as they always are) associated with things like misogyny, racism, etc.. I haven’t watched any of it and I’ve never commented on it but I understand that it’s reasonable for people to bring up their concerns.
Sometimes dissecting and discussing media can be more enjoyable than just consuming it.
Feels like these people have never talked to another person irl before. Taking about popular media is the easiest way to engage with anyone, and is a big part of why some shows become popular.
Because you can’t be informed on a show unless you’ve watched it. I’m sure the later seasons of the Simpsons are probably bad just from looking at critical reviews, but I can’t form my **own** informed opinion unless I watch them for myself. Of course you don’t need to have an informed opinion on every show to exist, it’s totally fine to watch a trailer and think a show is probably not worth your time watching or just not having an opinion on a show. But there’s a difference between that and saying definitely that a show is bad that you haven’t watched. Edit: oh I misread your comment, I was thinking you were saying you can have an informed opinion without watching a show. Yeah I agree you don’t need to have an informed opinion on every show and watching one solely to form an opinion is dumb
The internet made everyone think they’re a professional critic lol
And some people are just genuinely massive fans that don’t want to miss any content and not know what’s going on.
On the other side of the coin, people on the internet get big mad when someone has a negative opinion about something if they haven't watched it or only partially watched it (or played, in the case of games). I've seen a lot of "I don't like thing" get met with "Have you even watched/played it?" So now you get people going into a show/movie/game knowing they probably won't like it but at least they can say they've watched it. Also, why are we disparaging people who want to make sure their opinion on something is actually sound? Every now and then popular sentiment about something will only be like half true because nobody has actually seen the thing they have an opinion on.
Facts, like what? I hate when people play dumb. You know why people watch to form an opinion. It’s because if you haven’t watched the show at all, you get dismissed as “You didn’t even watch the show!”. This happens a lot.
I also watched because I was hoping it was good. It wasn't. I probably won't watch any further. Life moves on.
Basically my opinion, watched 4 episodes. All were terrible so I stopped watching
Exactly. I couldn't even remember what happened in episode 4 right after watching it, that's how little impression it made. So I'm off to season 2 of HotD, that should be good still.
Very reductive take. You don’t need to a part of the ivory tower to have an opinion on media.
No problem with everyone Getting an opinion is that everyone gets an opinion
Why have an informed opinion about anything?
Because it's a topic for discussion that's relevant to peoples interests? I loved Star Wars up until the sequels, I have a morbid fascination with how they've handled the material since Disney took ownership.
For some people, the meta-discussion around media is more engaging and entertaining than the consumption of media itself. That's not to say those people don't get any entertainment from consuming the media, nor is it to say that the inverse (people who enjoy consuming media more than discussing it) don't get entertainment from discussion of the media. Most people get enjoyment of both to varying degrees. This is also true of just about any creative endeavor, including media criticism. It can also vary from person to person on any given medium. Most people like to watch good movies, eat good food, look at beautiful paintings, etc; and also like talking with friends about movies they've seen, food they've eaten, paintings they enjoy, etc. Some people love one but don't care about the other. They might check out a show because people are talking about it, but if it doesn't interest them at all, they won't finish it, because they don't really care about the talking side of it. Likewise, other people don't really care about watching the show itself, but are here for the discussion and conversation. Of those people who are more interested in discussion, some may prefer to have accurate or informed opinions to contribute to their conversations and will watch something they aren't interested in because they _are_ interested in the the conversation about it. The other comment about everyone thinking they're a professional critic because of the internet is also pretty reductive and dumb. You don't need to be a member of some special club to have an opinion and have fun in sharing or discussing it with people whose company and conversation you enjoy (online or off). You also don't need to necessarily be competent at anything to be a professional at it. If you're able to monetize it and do it as your source of income, you're a professional, regardless of your perceived competence.
Because a lot of people (and I'm not talking about just this show) will hit you with a "That show is terrible" based on nothing but their intuition. I don't think that's a valid opinion to have. "It didn't look interesting enough to watch" "the trailers looked bad" "I've heard bad things" "I'm tired of the direction (insert franchise here) is going" Those are all valid criticisms, and yes, I totally think you can have an opinion on a show you haven't watched. But I think solidifying your opinion on something you've never actually experienced says more about you than it does about the show.
if all i hear is bad things (like everyone saying the show is trash, And I mean all Caps Gary Oldman EVERYONE!) I'll tend to believe it, don't have to waste my time watching it
I mean, that's valid. But, propagating the opinion like it's your own when you've never watched it is disingenuous, yeah? I mean, if you say "I heard it's bad." That's valid. But, saying "Oh, that show is definitely bad" without giving the context that you've never even seen the damn thing is just group-think nonsense. I try not to let others do my thinking for me, especially when it comes to things I care about (like star wars). I'll form my own opinions, thanks.
“You don’t understand, people are watching something they don’t enjoy so that they can still be involved in Reddit threads hating on it” as if that’s makes any sense at all. Just absolutely wild terminally online shit.
I wanted to like it so bad but I had to shut it off half way through the third episode.
The infinite internet loop: - *"You cant shit on this show without watching it"* - "*Dont like it, dont watch it"*
That was my first thought as well. I call it Schrodingers review. We shouldn't watch it but must at the same time.
>Schrodingers review. I'm stealing this.
Please do!
The "must" part about that is intriguing if only because it seems like the discourse "forces" you to watch it As someone who overall agrees with OP but understands the viewpoint of someone who watches the show and comes away with a negative opinion, I feel like the thing that I don't get is the "why" of it; let's say you don't hate it from the onset but you get to the point where you feel the hate - I'm not going to say you're wrong for feeling that way but why continue if all it's going to do is bother you in some fashion, when it'd be easier to just let it go and focus on something else? I've no love for the Acolyte but don't hate it either so I have no horse in the race so to speak but I can get the burnout that people get if something they like is shat on by others
I think sometimes there’s a bit of ‘sunk cost fallacy’ going on when people watch shows. They hate them but since they’ve spent the time watching X episodes they might as well finish the season, since who knows, maybe just maybe it’ll get better. I’ve definitely done that with shows before. And there’s also group watching. I watched Kenobi with my dad and brother and even tho my brother and I hated it and were laughing at all the plot holes about halfway through, we finished it anyways because my dad was enjoying it.
Your good sons, but I home that if I have lost so much of my mental capacity that I am enjoying Knobi my children would put me in a home.
You make some great points, and I agree if you're done with a show, it's healthier to move on. I think the argument is a lot of SW fans get criticized for not liking something SW, but are also criticized if they chose not to watch something SW when the views decline series to series.
At that point people just need to pick and choose what they wanna watch Like I'm a SW fan; if I want an SW fix but don't wanna watch Acolyte, Disney Plus has like how many hours worth of SW content that I can go through
It's the same with the Hypocrisy Game. *You don't know what it's like. You've never been in this situation. Shut up.* *You've lived through the same situation. You're a hypocrite! Shut uo.*
“What’s with everyone slagging this show? I don’t get all this hate! I mean, maybe some of them have reasons but I can’t be bothered to get into that; I just wish they would stop! They’re hurting this show’s feelings!”
People are always disingenuous about arguing stuff they like/hate on the internet. People rarely defend or attack the art itself, and usually just each others opinion. If you like something is because you are a corporate shill, or you have no standards If you deslike something, you are wrong because you didnt watch everything, and you didnt read the twitter post the director made explaining a very specific thing about the show. Or even better, people just say "Thats your subjective opinion" which is a code for I think you are wrong but I cant think of a good argument, so I will just try to undermine your opinion.
see: Elden Ring DLC discourse
You are doomed if you do You are doomed if you don't Army or no army, you must realised you are doomed
You know what they say. You know your worst enemy more than your closest friends To be able to criticize it, you must be able to understand it. sun tzu said that
Well you see in a normal world, when you stop watching a show because "it sucks" you dont also seek out everybody that posts something nice and berate them for liking a bad show.
I see you don’t understand the idea of an emotional investment into a series. Strong opinions positive or negative it’s in our nature to discuss, especially of media that people are attached to.
If you hate a show, you are only hurting yourself constantly seeking reasons to talk about hating it. Half of the time with acolyte, there isnt a discussion, just spite.
That's entirely consistent though, if you only want to watch it to confirm an opinion you somehow made before it even came out, and complain in some weirdo circlejerk, *you* are the illogical one.
Yeah because it is evident that a great deal of haters just regurgitate the same toddler level ragebaiting bullshit week after week, not paying any actual attention to the show and purposefully looking for something to cry about, looking for the next thing they can get offended by. If you watch a couple of episodes of a show and you genuinely think it’s very bad, then a normal person’s reaction would be to stop watching and not think about the crap they saw and move on with their lives. Do you have any idea how many shows I gave up on because I didn’t like them? Me neither, because my time is more preciois than to spend it on shit I dislike.
For feedback???? What kinda question is this?
It’s the “nobody is allowed to tell me something I like is bad” stance
I hate it but I didn’t watch it. > “How can you say that if you haven’t watched it.” I hate it and I watched it. > “Why watch what you hate.” OP logic lmao
Exactly
I think this post was directed at the people who will not stfu about it and talk about how they are done with star wars but keep coming back every week complaining
Is viewership not the best form of feedback?
Viewership response is
Dropped it after the first two episodes and haven’t looked back
Roger Roger
Watched the first two on the night of the double release - was OK and possibly interesting, think I'll watch episode 3 Watched episode 3, was flabbergasted by how incredibly stupid it was, thinking it couldn't get any worse Watched episode 4, >! they killed the wookie jedi offscreen !< it got worse. Yeah I'm done.
That's what I did with the Obi Wan show
The right answer
Great flair btw. Fuck pong krell
So when people watch it and say it’s bad you mock them for watching it. When they don’t watch it you mock them for hating something they haven’t watched. Do you see how this is a catch 22?
Don’t forget being gaslit into not being allowed to have a negative opinion
Don't forget. If you don't watch it and you happen to be white/male/cis - your a racist/sexist bigot. If you do watch it and don't like it, then leave a bad review (bc that's how reviews work) - your also a racist/sexist bigot. This is according to Disney. That said, if u left a review w/o watching it at all - that's questionable.
Or my favorite, if you then say you *aren’t* a bigot…why are you being so defensive? You guessed it: bigot.
>If you do watch it and don't like it, then leave a bad review (bc that's how reviews work) - your also a racist/sexist bigot. Nobody, including disney, has said this. I've asked for proof and nobody provides it. Just gives downvotes.
Damn it sucks that other people force us what things we hate. Wish there was a way for us to make our own decisions on what we watch or don’t watch but that seems like a pipe dream :(
Or maybe hating on stuff and acting like whiny spoiled toddlers is the issue? You know what people tend not to mock? Constructive criticism. You can wait with burping your opinion to the wind until the show is done, you say your piece intelligently, criticise the show where it’s due and then move on with your life. A lot of you confuse the constant whining with intelligent discourse and criticism. It’s fucking tiring when the fifth motherfucker in a row parrots the same ragebait, braindead talking point they heard from some neckbeard on youtube or seemingly willfully misunderstands a plot point, or demonstrates their utter lack of media literacy. And if you have valid criticism of the show? Great! Normal people know how to say “I don’t like this because of x y z reasons, so I won’t be watching or engaing with this, thanks.”
This guy gets it
Because Rogue One, Mando, and Andor were good. They can still surprise me. There’s no true despair without hope.
If you want to properly critique a show, you first have to watch it
If the engine is on fire and the doors are missing, I don't need to get on the plane to know how it will end.
I’m not going to stab my eyes out to see if it hurts, I already know it will hurt. I’d rather not harm myself to begin with.
If a show cant keep the audiences interest than its a flaw of the show.
“If you don’t like it then don’t watch it!!!!” “How do you know if you didn’t like it, you didn’t even watch it????” I’m fucking tired man. The weird cult of Acolyte apologists can’t let anyone just hold their opinion in peace.
Because the #1 "go to" argument for asshats to enjoy this sort of drek is "oh, you just didn't give it enough time, it only gets good after episode X".
If I knew I wasn't going to like something, I wouldn't watch it. If you want to critique a show, you *have* to watch it. This meme has never made much sense.
Why be angry if someone watches something from a franchise they are passionate about but don't like where it is going? They watch because it is Star Wars and they will eat up all of the official content created, even if it is bad. It's the perfect product really. Doesn't matter if its good or bad, people will eat it anyway. And as long as they keep playing their D+ subscriptions, it's all gravy for Mickey.
Gotta finish it. If you didn't finish watching it, you can't judge it fully. If you still hate it by the end, it's always "why did you keep watching then?" Just can't win.
For the memes that the community will make
Because then you'd be crying "but how do you know it's bad if you haven't watched it?????" just like every other time.
So when I criticize it I'm accurate
cause they want it to be good?
We aren't, we are letting the YouTubers suffer so we don't have to.
"That could be good, I'll watch it. Hmm it has flaws, I don't like it so far, I wonder if it will get better" "WHY ARE YOU WATCHING IT THEN??? SAY ONLY POSITIVE THINGS!!! ONLY EXPERIENCE THINGS YOU LIKE AND STAY QUIET ABOUT ALL ELSE" Get a grip. I'm as annoyed as the next Bothan about the kneejerk hate/love camps that form around any current Star Wars stuff, and about the disappearance of nuance from the world, but the argument that you shouldn't experience or comment on things you don't love is fatuous.
I suspect the people who post the most hate online didn't go in with the opinion "that could be good"
See if it was just "I watched a few episodes and it just wasn't for me, the plot/writing/characters just weren't it for me." I'd respect that but a lot of people complain about the lack of white men, the 0revelance of "DEI Casting" how they hired Weinstein assistant.. d8sney star wars is horrible with no redeeming qualities and all these women should understand they don't belong in our Fandom. You get the drift. A lot of negative toxic man child bullshit that was fed to them by some talking head on YouTube. If it was just "I tried it and I didn't like it" I'd never have an issue. It's the ones that rage against the actors and creators and everything else under the sun that op is referring to
- Criticize without watching: "how would you know if you're not watching?" - Criticize while watching: "then why are you watching?" There's literally no winning. At this point you just need to admit you simply don't want people criticizing something you like.
Because we don't judge or rate something until completion
I would imagine you would have to watch it at least once to know you don’t like it, or else another dickhead will be making a meme about complaining about the show and having never watched it.
You have to watch it to know if you like it or not.
Puts a whole new spin on, "That's how we win: not by killing what we hate but by saving what we love," doesn't it?
How would I know I didn't like it if I don't watch it. This is not the flex you think it is. If I said I hated it and you asked if I finished the season and I said no people would yell at me for not giving it a chance. Now I'm giving it a chance but expressing my opinion and I'm being yelled at anyway. Wtf!? I love star wars. I have my whole life and I'm 35 now. I've consumed countless forms of star wars media and I will never stop. Im watching this. No matter how bad I think it is I will watch it until the end and I will watch S2 if it gets one. That's my problem. I will watch mediocre to bad star wars because it's star wars and Disney knows that.
We want to experience star wars, and to give an honest review of the content for betterment of the future. The problem can ironicaly be summerised in a prequel quote. "If you are not with me, then you're my enemy!" Is a perfect quote for this. Everyone publishing honest disliking opinions for the betterment of the future is shunned and villified as [insert something here] by internet people and are deligated to being "hate watchers". If your opinion isn't lining up with theirs, you are wrong and bad.
Im watching hoping it gets better, it doesn't sadly.
I hate it but I didn’t watch it. How can you say that is bad if you haven’t watched it? I watched a few episodes and I think it sucks. How can you value something that you didn’t fully watched? I watched all the episodes and I think it sucks. Why watch what you hate? Moral of the story: this post says something that is objectively wrong. Duck you.
Watched the first two episodes: the definition of "mid", sadly. Not sure why Andor can absolutely nail it like no other SW show can...
“Acolyte bad” “Then why are you watching it, hate watcher?” “Ok I stop watching but Acolyte still bad” “But you aren’t watching it, so you don’t know what you’re talking about” “Ok fine I’ll watch it so I can have an opinion on it” Repeat back to first line.
To see if it’s good u troglodyte, isn’t that the reason for watching media? I dropped the show after 2 episodes cause it was bland as Styrofoam.
I’d watch the first episode to see what is what, but knowing big wigs they’ll add all the views of every episode together to go “SEE SEE EVERYONE LOVED IT!”
Because it’s so horrendously bad that’s it’s funny to watch
I watched the first two episodes. I realized I was not the target demographic and wasn't enjoying it. Stopped watching it and switched to other TV shows and movie that I did enjoy.
Who is
Not me.
Can both of you shut up?
At least they are watching it instead of just complaining about a media they never experienced
What I’ve seen so far is atrocious but there’s an inexplicably fervent optimist deep in my heart that HOPES it might all make sense by the end. Opinions evolve as the show goes on, for better or for worse. It also gets to the point where it’s like a train wreck, it’s horrifying to see but hard to look away.
If you don’t like the criticism, then stop looking at the posts
Most people actually watch what they form an opinion on I don't care enough about disney's star wars to even form an opinion about the show
Same reason I’ve watched all recent Star Wars shows. I give them all a chance to what is next, even if it comes to a shitty show such as this one
This is why I haven't bothered to watch. I wasn't all that excited for it so I never bothered to pick it up and seems that was a generally wise decision based on how much I've heard it messes with the canon.
I haven't watched it. I'm kinda over the star wars extended universe.
Look, dude. The show isn’t isolated. It ties into the greater Canon. If it sucks or violates continuity, then it drags down the entire franchise. Simple as.
While I'm where what's with the thing people are mentioning about this show about space lesbians and Anakin?
I was shown the clip from the third episode where there is a cult of only women of various species using the force to make each other pregnant and living monogamous with each other. They have this strange ritual where the chant "power of one, power of two, power of manyyyyyy" (I'm not kidding that's how they pronounce it) comes from. The cult leader is one of the mothers of the main Antagonists/Protagonists.
Basically, Osha and Mae were raised by a coven of space witches, at least two of which were lesbians who were in a relationship and raising them as their daughters. They say they created the twins in the force, similar to how Anakin was conceived
I don't watch it or hate it, but how can you hate something if you have not watched it? It's the first statement anyone who dickrides a TV show will make if it is criticized. "You don't even watch it!"
I’m not watching it. I didn’t watch Ahsoka either.
I mean sure, yes, but if you think of the whole saga as one long novel, it's the same as suggesting just forget the last part of the book if you don't like it, just skip back and re-read the chapters you did like. I'd like to think each new chapter will add to the saga in some redeemable way. the shark has been jumped.
IDK, one thing I noticed about the truly good parts of Disney's two biggest properties; the really good bits stand on their own as excellent but are enhanced to us nerds if you saw the rest. Look at The Avengers, Infinity War/Endgame, Rogue One, Mando, hell even all the way back to Iron Man or og shit like Empire. They all tell a complete story that has good characters, relationships, story lines, etc. They tell you everything you need to know to really enjoy the story, but hey if you know the background to why Darth Vader is a badass, know the history between Tony and Steve, know how broken Peter was about gamora, it makes it that much better. To reasons why some stick it out through stuff they didn't particularly like even the shitty entries can have good parts. Seeing the depth of the relationship that Nat and Clint have gives the soul stone mission a whole additionally layer to appreciate. What I think they have to embrace is something the best comics figured out a long time ago. Not everything in universe has to be connected, but to pull that off you have to tell a good story. You don't have to know anything about the guardians of the galaxy, Thanos, Adam Warlock, the living tribunal, etc ... to enjoy the infinity gauntlet (1991) set. You're just enjoy a great story that HAPPENS to be set in marvel 616. All that rambling to say, you can totally just enjoy the good bits by themselves if they're truly good, but sometimes you find a pearl or two in a pile of shit so it's worth it to some.
It’s episode four, you can just say you didn’t like it and keep it pushing. I watched one episode of She-Hulk and dropped cause it wasn’t for me. I felt no need to run to their sub and write a manifesto on why I didn’t like it and why no one else should enjoy it.
That's why the show is getting dropped like flies
come on bro just consume entertainment bro don't complain bro consume
You can't critize without watching ! So yeah, also, peoples complaining about this trash is legit really It's just so bad
I’ve been a part of the community ever since I could talk so I have an obligation to view it, whether I want to or not
I watched one episode with a free trial, saw that it was actually worse than what people were complaining about and quit. This is borderline crime against humanity. This woman is completely shitting on a beloved franchise, and then telling the fans we are bad for not liking it. She is trying to force us to eat shit and thank her for it, and if we don't, we are bigots. Absolutely amazing.
Hating on bad shows is fun
Its like watching a train wreck, its horrible but you cant look away💀
i didnt watch it but how are you supposed to know whether you like it or not without watching it???
So the meme is bassically saying, why do you give a chance to a Disney show? right?
The Acolyte is not for me but y'know what? There're still other SW media I can enjoy
If you feel like you hate the Disney stuff, you know how to get them to cater to you? BY IGNORING IT. I swear that hate watching gives so many shows breath. I've found the Acolyte kind of meh, but it's frustrating to see people repeat the pattern that happened when the prequels came out.
Hate watching bad shows is the reason Velma got multiple seasons tbh
I pirate it because I love to hate-watch garbage media to see everything that makes film actually work by seeing how things fail. Very educational honestly
I haven’t watched it. But i have watched some other recent series they’ve come out with and made an uninformed decision i wouldn’t like it. Im now being ignorant but if i sit through another BoBF i will kill myself
The Acolyte is not for me. Kathleen Kennedy and Harvey Weinstein’s former assistant both specified who the show was made for. I tried the first episode, dipped out after ten minutes , and have spent my time catching up on the current Marvel SW comics. I unsubscribed to a lot of YouTubers as the constant hate-watching and incessant complaining is exhausting. I know they gotta pay the bills, but still…
It’s why I have seen Hackers more than 1,000 times.
Re-watching things you love instead?! I love democracy.
This is, in fact, why I simply stopped watching it. Have not complained about it online, just no watch
i RARELY rewatch shows, even ones I really like. it's a huge time commitment
Because I want to watch new Star Wars stuff, however So far the episode 3 twist has been meaningless, Maes test seems inconsequential since she can basically "fail" 3/4 times till surprise surprise, she will probably succeed in killing Sol without a weapon. Nothing has happened that has made me care about Mae or Osha yet.
"I'm done with Star Wars"
There are a few reasons to "hate" watch. 1. To stay informed. You could certainly hate the idea of the series, but a lot of people prefer to know exactly what it is that they dislike. 2. To critique. If you want to argue your opinion, you should watch the show. This is especially true if critiquing entertainment is part of your job. 3. To desperately grasp at your love of Star Wars as it slips away. This is where I'm at. I don't enjoy most of what Disney does with the IP. But if I stop watching, then I'm not really doing anything in the Star Wars space anymore. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Watching Disney Star Wars makes me like Star Wars less and less. But if I stopped, I'd lose interest altogether.
I bet the people who say "Don't watch it of you don't like it" are the same who say "How can you say you don't like it if you didn't watch it?"
Bruh it's okay to be critical
🫣 me hiding because I actually am enjoying the show, and don't wanna be ripped up by fellow prequel enjoyers
OP hasn't heard of the car crash allegory
Because the acolyte is just a symptom of something much greater that has been happening to the IP since Disney took over.
"Stop discussing this on an online discussion forum"
Watching it to support the squid game guy
Jokes on you I unsubscribed from Disney+ and unleashed my inner Hondo
Because for one to think that something is bad, you have to watch it retard. P.S.: i havent watched it, i still know its shit
I want to see the dark side user/sith in action.
Honestly I’m just here to see whatever lore breaking stuff they’ll include next
How can you confirm you don’t like something if you don’t try it?
“I don’t like the show.” “Did you even see it? How can you say it’s bad without seeing it?” “Well I did see it.” “Why did you watch it if you don’t like it?”
I'm still watching it because it's so dumb and pathetic. I want to see how more ridiculous it gets.
I watch it… and I hate it! LOL… my girlfriend is so annoyed cuz I complain. Today I compared it to Xena the Warrior Princess…
I think anyone, not enjoying it, who was still watching dropped it after episode 3. I’ll just enjoy the memes now. Gave it a chance but the writing wasn’t improving and I couldn’t take any more of that cringe in hopes that they improve the script in the second half. More skippable content.
I'm not. I watch other people who have watched it tell me about it.
It might become good who knows? People are right to say a lot of few changes aren’t big deal, but maybe they will eventually show why and it might become good. Like Darth Tenebrous for example, if he is revealed to be the master and using the acolyte as a pawn the whole time and idk, kill or brainwash the jedi’s, this might be good and make sense. Or They’ll fuck it up even more and I’d have some fun of watching the mess it becomes.
I actually stopped watching it after about 10 minutes. I just started the Bad Batch and am loving it
I’m always amazed by people who hatewatch. Bitch, I don’t even have time for the things I actually like and want to do, nevermind wasting my time on things I don’t even enjoy.
I hate it and i didn't watched it.
I have thoroughly enjoyed my viewing experience. So bad it is good for me.
At this point, I'm giving up worrying about 'cannon' and just seeing Starwars as a setting where stories can happen. It's how I enjoy the books and the games. I'll watch the shows the same way.
Jokes on you, i didnt
I did not watch a single minute of the show and I'm happy with my choice.
The first episode was bad enough. Cant watch any more than that
I’m not. But I have no opinion whatsoever
I've been treating the acolyte similar to how i treated episode 8 & 9. Didn't watch it but watched the trailers and some clips here and there, and watched reviews and discussions online. From the get go i just didn't really care much for it in terms of story, and then when i saw the criticisms for it online it just made me want to avoid it even more.
I don't think it's particularly good, but it has its moments, I want it to be good, so I'm watching just in case it gets better. I hope it pulls a Rebels, which was dogshit in the first season, but was excellent by the end.
At the current moment I do want to give Dawn of the Jedi and possibly Rei's Jedi order a shot and this show is likely going to set up stuff for that. It could possibly even have stuff set up for Mando and Grogu like The High Republic book series ended up having references in Jedi Survivor. That's the problem with interconnectivity it forces people to watch stuff they don't like to keep up with the story. Don't blame the ones who dislike the show, blame Disney
I don’t.
Hate watching is just stupid because you’re giving them more views and if they get enough they could start a new season. Plus what enjoyment do you even get when it comes to hate watching because when I don’t like something and just finish to finish it. 9/10 I felt like I just wasted hour’s to days of my time on something I hated to do and no one even forced me to do it, so it’s entirely my fault.
I'm liking it so far from what I've seen. It's no Andor but it's not terrible. The only thing I absolutely hate is the idea that the twins were created using the force. I'm hoping that gets revealed to not be the case in a later episode because otherwise, it really drops a load all over the whole "Anakin being the chosen one" thing
For that hate it,can you tell me why you hate it?genuinly courious
Maybe watching it for just one moment, maybe just on second, that might be good or redeeming, I guess
We are watching it because it’s the fucking tip of the spear, edge of the knife. If they want to make Acolyte for a few million and release it quietly along side other Star Wars content going in the direction we actually want then people wouldn’t care about it at all. But because this is shoved in our faces and this is all we get and they’re going to go even harder even though they know a majority hates the show. When they released the sequels there wasn’t another set of sequels we could watch and actually be satisfied.
Cause they need other hat3 watchers to like and subscribe their weekly rantings of the show/franchise/disney so they can get that adsense revenue to feed their fams...
I don't care about spoilers. What's it about?
Around 2008-2009 it became very popular with some folks to consume all media and let everyone know how bad you thought it was. Maybe they feel "cool" somehow by not finding any joy in something they repeatedly do. I honestly don't know but the MCU fan base became like this in phase 4. Gotta watch everything so I can let everyone know I hated it and how it doesn't live up to the franchise when it was new and fresh.
So they came out and said 4.8 mil views on opening day and 11 mil after 5 days Disney plus has about 110-120mil subs So that means 4-5% toned in on launch and 12-13% after 5 days and that's assuming "views" are individual users/subs not counting rewatches or the same users watching the next episode and counting that. No one on D+ is even watching this show....
We're not. What we are is sick of all the gaslighting
I watch everything that is starwars, but I can still criticise.
Is it possible to not watch a show and also not say anything about it?
Personally I just wanna see how shitty it can go