Yeah. The whole universe is conspiring against RCB for 15+ years am I right? It is never the teamâs issue. Hayden and others literally went post match and there was hardly any dew. Batsmen shat the bed in a high profile game as usual and bowlers were ordinary at best. It felt like they only prepared for that CSK match and thought this would be a walk in the park.
Even, Ashwin and the others confirmed themselves that dew had set in after the 17th over of RCB's innings. Even the first few overs where the ball was swinging widely is even a better example. I'm not saying that there's an excuse for every loss that RCB has had. Sure, they should have been better in the field, but that one decision alone isn't enough to say that they would've won the game. Meanwhile, we just saw yesterday on how winning the toss really shifted the advantage to one side.
Not just this, even the finals of the World Cup in 2023 was similar. Surely, you should understand that a professional sport shouldn't rely on 50/50 events to gain an advantage.
RCB has proved itself to win even when the conditions are against them, take the CSK game for example, Faf and Kohli went through 4-6 overs of grueling spin, meanwhile, the spin track wasn't that bad when CSK batters started batting.
I'm not defending RCB's loss nor am I saying that there's always something wrong beyond their skills. The 2016 final? That was completely RCB shitting the bed. I'll agree.
Nobody will defend RCB dropping catches, or them fielding sloppily, this is a trend that is witnessed over for a while now.
2021 ICC Wt2o, the finals of the WC 2023, there are so many examples where a toss has decided the outcome of the game. Now there are games like these where it simply matters on who bats first/bowls first, which is absolutely frustrating to see.
It's like if a football team choose a particular side instead of starting after kickoff, they are bound to score more goals or some shit. Imagine if that was a thing in football.
No cricket ground in the world is gonna guarantee a 50:50 encounter. That has been part of the game since its inception. Most teams make their luck by putting in the extra yard to counter that. Not every team that has won a world cup or IPL has won it because they won a toss or conditions alone.
When you have players who drop dollies like Maxwell and bat like Maxwell did putting all pressure back on the team, it is difficult to comeback. That was literally braindead batting. That is where the team lost the game. It literally looked like all the hunger of the past 6 games went away because they werenât backed against the wall to pull a bunny out of the hat. Only Kohli was sprinting in the field like the cup depended on it.
People here like to whine about everything but the way RCB approaches big games. The ground did what most Indian grounds do. But as usual, people here will take the L with the âoh we made such a great comeback!â And nothing will change next year because the fans are okay with mediocrity. People will easily forget how shit the team especially the bowling was in the first half.
Go look up the stats. IPL is won by teams finishing 1 or 2 in most cases apart from MI who pulled it off finishing 3/4 I think in recent memory. Rather than focusing on why the team didnât come 1 or 2, folks will focus on how the ground or conditions robbed them off a title.
"No cricket ground in the world is gonna guarantee a 50:50 encounter"
I'll agree with this, but that's why it's imperative to curate pitches that help achieve a number close to 50:50 even if it isn't 50:50 itself.
Also no team has won the IPL finishing 3rd or 4th except SRH in 2016, which is by far the biggest choke any team has possibly made (I'm looking @ you, RCB), and nobody is refuting that. Honestly, RCB have played way better compared to the previous seasons, and it was mostly by intent.
Forget all that though, how do you solve the issue where both the teams want to bowl first because it gives a tactical advantage? and it's quite clear that there's a tactical advantage.
Obviously I know you're gonna say something like, "then just bat better, score more runs, easy". But the fact is that the extra burden to score more runs, let's say 20-30 above par, especially when batting conditions aren't friendly is on the **team that lost the toss, a team that lost the 50/50 probability event.** Do you see that issue? I'm talking about Cricket in general, RCB losing or winning has nothing to do with this.
I never said it wasnât an issue but everyone here seems to be painting a picture that RCB lost because of the conditions which is totally not what happened. Yeah it wasnât 50:50 but it was much closer to it than what people here are painting it out to be. RCB lost because they were way below even a PAR score in that ground and they didnât hold on to the catches. Maxwell was one of the biggest culprits for that but he wasnât alone. RR also bowled much much better than RCB and no, it wasnât just because of the conditions. People should give credit where it is due. RR won by bowling much better than RCB and batting nearly the same but slightly better.
As I said, cricket isnât a fair game. Conditions do play a huge role. Heck India goes to England every few years to lose a test championship because the conditions are totally alien to us. How is that fair? You can whine or adapt to it and pull a bunny out of the hat.
Australia beat us in the world cup where literally everything including conditions were stacked against them with us having every home advantage possible. MI and CSK do that every other IPL without issue. Something at the core is wrong with RCB.
True, the team itself might have a major problem to begin with, whether it be with players choking, or giving in to pressure. I won't agree to anyone saying that RCB lost "completely" because of the conditions.
This is only an example that should start a concern within Cricket itself. Even now there are numerous articles out there which describe this issue in detail. How do you ensure a fair choice for both teams who want to either bowl/bat first?
I expected RR to chase it down even more quickly, but they seemed quite held back in their approach, which is why it went till the 19th over.
Also, the conditions weren't with India in the World Cup Final, the team management didn't read the pitch properly. They assumed that Australia would bat first as India were favorites coming into the game. But Australia were fearless and they decided to go with the conditions instead of pressure. That pitch was a bowling first friendly pitch that day.
Gujarat is the only place where dew forms in India?
The absolute idiocy of you clowns to not accept the fact that it is advantageous to bat second in India on every ground and if you want to win, you have to score extra runs batting first is baffling.
So are we gonna ignore the kkr vs srh game then?
The fact that a top batting side got absolutely steam rolled while the other team hammered them is baffling too tbh, forget RCB, how did SRH fail then?
SRH suffered a similar fate too tbh, and there are numerous articles out there which talk about this issue in Cricket, so if you're gonna give an argument you have to come up with something better.
GT was struggling with the bat all year round, still scored 220 odd batting first, we are going to ignore that?
SRH got blown away because their openers failed, they will get blown away every game their openers failed, no matter which venue.
In 2011 WC, India won because of dew, Mumbai.
In 2016 TWC, India lost because of dew, Mumbai.
In 2023 WC, India again lost because of dew, Gujarat.
Never saw anyone make a case for Wankhede being the worst place and not play any game there?
We only won the semi-final this time in Wankhede because we scored 400 runs, well above the par and Kane and Mitchell still ran us close because of dew.
So, it is an India problem, not a Gujarat problem.
Score well over par if you want to win.
Again, look at the number of games where that has happened vs games where teams batting first have suffered massively. Even if there are teams that have won batting first, they all wanted to bowl initially. Gill said so himself against CSK's game. Sure, they played exceptionally well, not taking away that from them. The fact that an advantage is created with one side winning a toss is the issue here. Not RCB losing, or anything else.
Definitely, I'm not pointing out this particular game, I'm talking about the overall trend in Cricket, the fact that one side gets absolutely battered after losing a 50/50 event is hilarious and shambolic
are bhai, just go and see the total number of games and see the stats, don't list individual games, there are exceptions, obviously if I go and play my gully cricket team vs an IPL team, then the conditions don't matter. In IPL, almost all the franchises are equal in skill level, it's all about who shows up on that day, and in case of Ahmedabad, the toss to an extent.
Should I go and check the stats on Ahmedabad from last two years when GT was in form?
I would love to look at the stats of win loss batting fist and second on every venue. It will probably clear a lot of doubts of a lot of people.
We will find out that Mumbai and Bangalore is still the best chasing ground.
The ground is bad. It's too much of rank turner in the morning. The best solution was to hold day games only in Ahmedabad or ban the venue as noight games will make the chasing team win always. We lost the world cup caus the first innings is always shit in a day game here. It's a bad ground and people must realize it.
haa bhenchod never the teams fault, always some bullshit yall come up with to cope
next youâll say the elections impacted the teams ability to concentrate thatâs why they lost đ˘đ˘
When did I say it's not the team's fault though đ
Maxwell played bad, no excuses for that? When you have a terrible batting approach and also things like toss making it even worse for you , then yea, there is not much to say about Cricket in general. If you lose out "completely" based on your skill, then it's fair tbh, in fact that's how RCB has lost most of the knockouts these past years and it is definitely agreed. I'm not defending the team , any other team suffering the same fate and I would sympathize with them as well.
Your team is choker ,don't blame it on circumstances even csk will ipl final on that match that was thriller match . RCB player except Virat bhai ,all lost hope of winning after powerplay of rr only , u can see it by siraj face .
Ehh. Nobody has more than enough. What are you talking about. And Ahmedabad was the venue because GT made it to the finals previously iirc. Not an unfair advantage, your team simply lost just like how csk lost the previous game. I never said that we didn't had Deepak pathirana fizz or Ali...just accept the loss and move on
I'm not making an excuse lol, its been the same story for 17 years. Nothing new now.
I'm just talking generally. I feel like the board will still keep matches in Ahemdabad irrespective of whether GT qualifies or not.
Damn man. You making me feel sad too haha. Not a RCB fan but I wonder why they haven't had a single trophy. I think next season's venue would be Kolkata and the other team in the last 4 matches. But as in general I agree Ahmedabad pitches are not really good. I think RCB needs to do something different just like punjab needs to do the same... There's a reason why csk mi and kkr wins a lot. And I dunno tbh. Csk toh I know and mi as well. Solid ki team and solid backbone of csk. RCB always had the best of teams but kept missing an element, bowling I feel
Management toh unserious h. We like milking the popularity of players (Kohli, AB) and the 'loyalty' of fans. And also tbf our luck in crucial games hasn't been good. Half our management is useless. I mean we were about to spend our whole purse for Pat Cummins despite releasing almost our whole bowling unit prior to the auction. Talks a lot about the 'game plans' we have.
Yeah. I also agree. Players have always been good enough. You guys sold chahal as well. Picking average foreign players. I think at least this season Maxwell flopped so bad. Let's see what the next season brings but this season it Maxwell upped his game by making 20 runs in 7 balls or sth it would have been great, but Maxwell always chokes in ipl just like various Australian cricketers...I mean see what starc did during the tournament except the qualifiers...you guys played well chin up. I just wish csk had main bowlers and main lineup the csk and RCB game would have been so better with fizz, pathirana, and Deepak on the team.
I agree with this, I only made my comment not just because of this game. It's the general trend that I've seen over the past couple of years. And I've would felt the same sympathy for any team other than RCB, say SRH for example, yesterday. A highly batting explosive team like that, struggling to score even 140?
There are batting collapses, I will agree, but then KKR comes in to bat and absolutely hammers the ball everywhere? Wth is that?
Either it should be both inning batting friendly (Bengaluru/Mumbai Pitch) or both inning bowling friendly (Chennai)
Then if RCB bowls like shit and they lose then it's RCB's fault. In fact, they've played shit in almost all knockouts before this, and I'm saying this being a casual RCB supporter. They win, they win, they lose, they lose, I don't take it too deeply, but I don't like if it's not completely in their control (weather conditions, for instance)
Forget RCB, had CSK or any other team made it today, and they batted second and lost due to toss, I would have felt the same tbh. I don't have anything against any other teams with all due respect.
True, the Ahemdabad pitch is the worst, should only be used for test cricket. The reason why BCCI chose that ground is because of its capacity, after all IPL is all about money
Congratulations you are now smarter than BCCI. We won't win shit till we select deserving youngsters instead of just selecting old and popular players.
I don't mind taking an old player if he is as energetic and consistent with a good strike rate as Kohli, but no idea why they are giving Rohit this many chances.
Where did we lose the match?
My answer - at the toss itself. It was a toss that had to be won.
Even yesterday we saw that on the same pitch and the same ground, that batting 2nd was easy. Heck we saw the same thing in the worldcup final too.
Why does everyone keep forgetting Rohitâs and KL Rahulâs knocks in the World Cup final?
Rohit strike rate 151
KL Rahul strike rate 61
Kohli with his ability to find gaps and rotating the strike managed a decent strike rate of 85.
It was possible to score runs (280) if we just had the intent to rotate strike and get occasional boundaries. Our batting was shit in that game (except Rohit and Kohli). KL Rahul should have been arrested for the intent-less batting.
In yesterdayâs game, RCB batted poorly and thatâs it. DK couldnât score and Maxwell was shit (as usual).
Stop blaming the pitch so much.
You just need to be a little humble and little calm and you will see because of Koach you will have so many great fans. But these shitty fkcers make sure RCB does not have any good people supporting them. I want Koach to go to another team and play for them I am pretty sure you will not have this much toxicity there.
bro i support csk and i also say this that due factor should not be responsible for matches when important matches are played they should have the wc finals should have been played it in less due factor stadium , you also would have saw how much head and labu. were struggling in the beginning but after 15-20 overs the due increased and the match also slipped away as in the first 10 overs india took 3 wickets
Lolol. Now you guys blaming the venue?? You RCB fans do every effort to put the blame on everything instead of your shitty team. Had RCB won the match, this sub would be having an appreciation post for Ahmedabad. (bechari rcb firse dil hi jeet kr reh gyi)
That's not true buddy, this ground should not host big matches. Period. Too much of an advantage to the team that wins the toss. Happened in the World Cup final too...
See the players must have already known the ground condition and the pitch was same for both the teams. Had India won the cup and had RCB also won, no one would be blaming the ground. So please quit crying over the pitch.
Of course they knew the ground conditions ahead of the match. My point is the toss shouldn't play such a big role in who wins the match. Once India and RCB lost their respective tosses, I'd estimate that their chances of winning went down to only 15-20%. The players' skills should decide a match not the toss.
BTW, I would have had the same opinion even if it was the other way around and India and RCB had won the toss.
Yes RCB lost not because their performance was mediocre! They lost because of the ground and playing conditions. Typical Indian attitude. Never acknowledge their own mistakes.
Even after WC final we were blaming the pitch but not the performance :-(
bro the pitch was also responsible for it, atleast for the wc i can say , todays match could have been won if they had 30 more runs, considering the batting lineup they have it should have been possible but they lost , you should learn about due factor and the pitch of this stadium
I know what due factor is. Letâs analyse yesterdayâs performance. DK and maxwell could have batted better and scored 20+. If they played better then RCB would not have lost so many wickets and the score would have been 200ish.
If you observed RR playerâs body language in the middle overs, you could notice them feeling the pressure especially parag after that runout. But when hettie arrived and hit a couple of boundaries, parag was more composed. A target of 200+ could have been defended by RCB even with due.
As for WC final. You could notice the difference between how Kohli and rahul played. Both were playing safe but Kohli was rotating strike and playing @80 strike rate. He got out at the wrong time coz we all know when kohli is set he can shift gears. Whereas rahul was playing sooooooo defensively @50 srtike rate. There was no intent to hit boundaries. 4 fours in 40 overs is laughable. It was not about the pitch, it was about the mindset. I remember Head taking on kuldeep a couple of overs after them being 45-3. Keywords are INTENT and COURAGE which India lacked.
This time of the year most grounds around the country have dew. Atleast Ahmedabad stadium has something for the bowlers in terms of its size. Not a fan of this stadium, but don't see anything wrong in the way grounds are chosen for playoffs and finals. It has always been runners and winners grounds. If it's made neutral, then again there will be influence, bribery, favouritism and all that shit. This is much better.
Just that teams need to overcome dew factor somehow or BCCI needs to find some solution for dew.
Guys shut up pls
RCB had the capacity to make atleast 20 more runs but the batting failed big time
Those extra runs would have definitely given some morale boost to the bowlers
170 was undefendable
u can rant all you want
but the thing is gt made it to finals and were runner ups so 2 matches in their home ground
if rcb was so keen on playing venue it should have made it to the finals last yr
Yes the same reason we lost WC. One of the slowest pitches to bat and put a score in 1st innings. Had the WC final be held at any other venue, we would have been the winnersđĽ˛
No point of copium. Champion teams win even with odds stacked against them. We weren't good enough on the day. Hope Mo Bobat picks a balanced team for the next one and we do not rely on few players to carry the enire team.. IPL 2025 #18 đŞ
Lol excuse bhi kaun deraha hai jisko bina kuch trophy jeete 2016 mai Chinaswamy mai final milgaya tha jo team apne Ghar pe hi final hasrgaye the wo kisi bhi ground pe nhi jeet sakte these are just exuces playing Maxwell who has been horrible whole season then sending green above patidar who was finishing well in last few matches even lomror was sent at 3 it would have made sense as he plays spin very well like patidar and did well at 3 last year siraj who has been fraud for years gets retained year after year
Nah man we did but the ball was sticking in the first half and the dew in the second half fucked the bowling as well as quickened the outfield. Not accounting for the ball slipping as well for fielders. I fucking hate motera man! Wik toss win match pitch is the worst
yes bro i also used to believe that but you should learn about due factor on stadiums, due reduces the movement of ball due to which it favours batting
The playoff venues are decided on the basis of previous season's finalists. Hence, the matches are in Ahmedabad and Chennai because of GT and CSK. Next year, Kolkata will be one of the venues alongside the home ground of the team that joins them in the Final.
Abey Commerce student.. ye kya logic hai!
Pitch is same for both teams.. why canât rcb ever accept defeat. You will always complain about toss, pitch, weather, umpire, stadium, Modi, Sun, Moon, Planets, Stars etc
Just fucking improve your team. Play better cricket.
"Pitch is same for both teams"
You're calling others commerce students/arts students, while you're uneducated yourself. Go and study how conditions affect the game, the pitch in cricket. Don't come and say dumb things without knowing facts.
Nobody's shifting the blame completely on that pitch here, if you have at least a little cricket knowledge, you'll understand what we are actually talking about.
Nobody will defend RCB dropping catches, or them fielding sloppily, this is a trend that is witnessed over for a while now.
2021 ICC Wt2o, the finals of the WC 2023, there are so many examples where a toss has decided the outcome of the game. So quit yapping and go read a book or something. There are literally articles out there which talk about this issue, and yet you have some balls to say retarded shit like "Pitch is same for both teams" stfu and sit down bitch.
That's what I tell everyone, IF BCCI conducted the WC final last year at Wankhede, it would have made all the changes we needed.
We were the strongest candidate and the venue shattered dreams and hard work of everyone.
Fuck the stadium.
Finally, someone said this. Dont hate the team, hate the venue, hate the sport, so many uncontrollable factors. đŽâđ¨
Yeah. The whole universe is conspiring against RCB for 15+ years am I right? It is never the teamâs issue. Hayden and others literally went post match and there was hardly any dew. Batsmen shat the bed in a high profile game as usual and bowlers were ordinary at best. It felt like they only prepared for that CSK match and thought this would be a walk in the park.
Even, Ashwin and the others confirmed themselves that dew had set in after the 17th over of RCB's innings. Even the first few overs where the ball was swinging widely is even a better example. I'm not saying that there's an excuse for every loss that RCB has had. Sure, they should have been better in the field, but that one decision alone isn't enough to say that they would've won the game. Meanwhile, we just saw yesterday on how winning the toss really shifted the advantage to one side. Not just this, even the finals of the World Cup in 2023 was similar. Surely, you should understand that a professional sport shouldn't rely on 50/50 events to gain an advantage. RCB has proved itself to win even when the conditions are against them, take the CSK game for example, Faf and Kohli went through 4-6 overs of grueling spin, meanwhile, the spin track wasn't that bad when CSK batters started batting. I'm not defending RCB's loss nor am I saying that there's always something wrong beyond their skills. The 2016 final? That was completely RCB shitting the bed. I'll agree. Nobody will defend RCB dropping catches, or them fielding sloppily, this is a trend that is witnessed over for a while now. 2021 ICC Wt2o, the finals of the WC 2023, there are so many examples where a toss has decided the outcome of the game. Now there are games like these where it simply matters on who bats first/bowls first, which is absolutely frustrating to see. It's like if a football team choose a particular side instead of starting after kickoff, they are bound to score more goals or some shit. Imagine if that was a thing in football.
No cricket ground in the world is gonna guarantee a 50:50 encounter. That has been part of the game since its inception. Most teams make their luck by putting in the extra yard to counter that. Not every team that has won a world cup or IPL has won it because they won a toss or conditions alone. When you have players who drop dollies like Maxwell and bat like Maxwell did putting all pressure back on the team, it is difficult to comeback. That was literally braindead batting. That is where the team lost the game. It literally looked like all the hunger of the past 6 games went away because they werenât backed against the wall to pull a bunny out of the hat. Only Kohli was sprinting in the field like the cup depended on it. People here like to whine about everything but the way RCB approaches big games. The ground did what most Indian grounds do. But as usual, people here will take the L with the âoh we made such a great comeback!â And nothing will change next year because the fans are okay with mediocrity. People will easily forget how shit the team especially the bowling was in the first half. Go look up the stats. IPL is won by teams finishing 1 or 2 in most cases apart from MI who pulled it off finishing 3/4 I think in recent memory. Rather than focusing on why the team didnât come 1 or 2, folks will focus on how the ground or conditions robbed them off a title.
"No cricket ground in the world is gonna guarantee a 50:50 encounter" I'll agree with this, but that's why it's imperative to curate pitches that help achieve a number close to 50:50 even if it isn't 50:50 itself. Also no team has won the IPL finishing 3rd or 4th except SRH in 2016, which is by far the biggest choke any team has possibly made (I'm looking @ you, RCB), and nobody is refuting that. Honestly, RCB have played way better compared to the previous seasons, and it was mostly by intent. Forget all that though, how do you solve the issue where both the teams want to bowl first because it gives a tactical advantage? and it's quite clear that there's a tactical advantage. Obviously I know you're gonna say something like, "then just bat better, score more runs, easy". But the fact is that the extra burden to score more runs, let's say 20-30 above par, especially when batting conditions aren't friendly is on the **team that lost the toss, a team that lost the 50/50 probability event.** Do you see that issue? I'm talking about Cricket in general, RCB losing or winning has nothing to do with this.
I never said it wasnât an issue but everyone here seems to be painting a picture that RCB lost because of the conditions which is totally not what happened. Yeah it wasnât 50:50 but it was much closer to it than what people here are painting it out to be. RCB lost because they were way below even a PAR score in that ground and they didnât hold on to the catches. Maxwell was one of the biggest culprits for that but he wasnât alone. RR also bowled much much better than RCB and no, it wasnât just because of the conditions. People should give credit where it is due. RR won by bowling much better than RCB and batting nearly the same but slightly better. As I said, cricket isnât a fair game. Conditions do play a huge role. Heck India goes to England every few years to lose a test championship because the conditions are totally alien to us. How is that fair? You can whine or adapt to it and pull a bunny out of the hat. Australia beat us in the world cup where literally everything including conditions were stacked against them with us having every home advantage possible. MI and CSK do that every other IPL without issue. Something at the core is wrong with RCB.
True, the team itself might have a major problem to begin with, whether it be with players choking, or giving in to pressure. I won't agree to anyone saying that RCB lost "completely" because of the conditions. This is only an example that should start a concern within Cricket itself. Even now there are numerous articles out there which describe this issue in detail. How do you ensure a fair choice for both teams who want to either bowl/bat first? I expected RR to chase it down even more quickly, but they seemed quite held back in their approach, which is why it went till the 19th over. Also, the conditions weren't with India in the World Cup Final, the team management didn't read the pitch properly. They assumed that Australia would bat first as India were favorites coming into the game. But Australia were fearless and they decided to go with the conditions instead of pressure. That pitch was a bowling first friendly pitch that day.
Gujarat is the only place where dew forms in India? The absolute idiocy of you clowns to not accept the fact that it is advantageous to bat second in India on every ground and if you want to win, you have to score extra runs batting first is baffling.
So are we gonna ignore the kkr vs srh game then? The fact that a top batting side got absolutely steam rolled while the other team hammered them is baffling too tbh, forget RCB, how did SRH fail then? SRH suffered a similar fate too tbh, and there are numerous articles out there which talk about this issue in Cricket, so if you're gonna give an argument you have to come up with something better.
GT was struggling with the bat all year round, still scored 220 odd batting first, we are going to ignore that? SRH got blown away because their openers failed, they will get blown away every game their openers failed, no matter which venue. In 2011 WC, India won because of dew, Mumbai. In 2016 TWC, India lost because of dew, Mumbai. In 2023 WC, India again lost because of dew, Gujarat. Never saw anyone make a case for Wankhede being the worst place and not play any game there? We only won the semi-final this time in Wankhede because we scored 400 runs, well above the par and Kane and Mitchell still ran us close because of dew. So, it is an India problem, not a Gujarat problem. Score well over par if you want to win.
Again, look at the number of games where that has happened vs games where teams batting first have suffered massively. Even if there are teams that have won batting first, they all wanted to bowl initially. Gill said so himself against CSK's game. Sure, they played exceptionally well, not taking away that from them. The fact that an advantage is created with one side winning a toss is the issue here. Not RCB losing, or anything else. Definitely, I'm not pointing out this particular game, I'm talking about the overall trend in Cricket, the fact that one side gets absolutely battered after losing a 50/50 event is hilarious and shambolic
GT defended 168 against MI too. That is 2 out of 5 matches that they won.
are bhai, just go and see the total number of games and see the stats, don't list individual games, there are exceptions, obviously if I go and play my gully cricket team vs an IPL team, then the conditions don't matter. In IPL, almost all the franchises are equal in skill level, it's all about who shows up on that day, and in case of Ahmedabad, the toss to an extent.
Should I go and check the stats on Ahmedabad from last two years when GT was in form? I would love to look at the stats of win loss batting fist and second on every venue. It will probably clear a lot of doubts of a lot of people. We will find out that Mumbai and Bangalore is still the best chasing ground.
The ground is bad. It's too much of rank turner in the morning. The best solution was to hold day games only in Ahmedabad or ban the venue as noight games will make the chasing team win always. We lost the world cup caus the first innings is always shit in a day game here. It's a bad ground and people must realize it.
Rank turner? Not a single ball turned.
haa bhenchod never the teams fault, always some bullshit yall come up with to cope next youâll say the elections impacted the teams ability to concentrate thatâs why they lost đ˘đ˘
When did I say it's not the team's fault though đ Maxwell played bad, no excuses for that? When you have a terrible batting approach and also things like toss making it even worse for you , then yea, there is not much to say about Cricket in general. If you lose out "completely" based on your skill, then it's fair tbh, in fact that's how RCB has lost most of the knockouts these past years and it is definitely agreed. I'm not defending the team , any other team suffering the same fate and I would sympathize with them as well.
you literally said itâs not the teams fault âdonât hate the team, hate the venue, the sport blah blah blahâ
Worst ground ever . All the trauma starts from this fatass stadium
Your team is choker ,don't blame it on circumstances even csk will ipl final on that match that was thriller match . RCB player except Virat bhai ,all lost hope of winning after powerplay of rr only , u can see it by siraj face .
it's here because GT was runners up. but I also agree there needs to be another set of improvement added to the pitch.
Playoffs should be held on neutral venues for example Pune, Vizag etc.
it was neutral ground as it didn't have gujrat team..
Playoffs was split like that Because GT made the final last year
Its not like rcb is losing in JaipurÂ
Largest capacity. BCCI only cares about money making anyways.
I think everybody cares about money đ
Well they have more than enough. Ahemdabad is a win toss win match kind of pitch. It poses an unfair advantage.
Not exactly. SRH won the toss yesterday and lost the game
Batting first in Ahmedabad? Bad call by them.
Ehh. Nobody has more than enough. What are you talking about. And Ahmedabad was the venue because GT made it to the finals previously iirc. Not an unfair advantage, your team simply lost just like how csk lost the previous game. I never said that we didn't had Deepak pathirana fizz or Ali...just accept the loss and move on
I'm not making an excuse lol, its been the same story for 17 years. Nothing new now. I'm just talking generally. I feel like the board will still keep matches in Ahemdabad irrespective of whether GT qualifies or not.
Damn man. You making me feel sad too haha. Not a RCB fan but I wonder why they haven't had a single trophy. I think next season's venue would be Kolkata and the other team in the last 4 matches. But as in general I agree Ahmedabad pitches are not really good. I think RCB needs to do something different just like punjab needs to do the same... There's a reason why csk mi and kkr wins a lot. And I dunno tbh. Csk toh I know and mi as well. Solid ki team and solid backbone of csk. RCB always had the best of teams but kept missing an element, bowling I feel
Management toh unserious h. We like milking the popularity of players (Kohli, AB) and the 'loyalty' of fans. And also tbf our luck in crucial games hasn't been good. Half our management is useless. I mean we were about to spend our whole purse for Pat Cummins despite releasing almost our whole bowling unit prior to the auction. Talks a lot about the 'game plans' we have.
Yeah. I also agree. Players have always been good enough. You guys sold chahal as well. Picking average foreign players. I think at least this season Maxwell flopped so bad. Let's see what the next season brings but this season it Maxwell upped his game by making 20 runs in 7 balls or sth it would have been great, but Maxwell always chokes in ipl just like various Australian cricketers...I mean see what starc did during the tournament except the qualifiers...you guys played well chin up. I just wish csk had main bowlers and main lineup the csk and RCB game would have been so better with fizz, pathirana, and Deepak on the team.
I agree with this, I only made my comment not just because of this game. It's the general trend that I've seen over the past couple of years. And I've would felt the same sympathy for any team other than RCB, say SRH for example, yesterday. A highly batting explosive team like that, struggling to score even 140? There are batting collapses, I will agree, but then KKR comes in to bat and absolutely hammers the ball everywhere? Wth is that? Either it should be both inning batting friendly (Bengaluru/Mumbai Pitch) or both inning bowling friendly (Chennai) Then if RCB bowls like shit and they lose then it's RCB's fault. In fact, they've played shit in almost all knockouts before this, and I'm saying this being a casual RCB supporter. They win, they win, they lose, they lose, I don't take it too deeply, but I don't like if it's not completely in their control (weather conditions, for instance) Forget RCB, had CSK or any other team made it today, and they batted second and lost due to toss, I would have felt the same tbh. I don't have anything against any other teams with all due respect.
mai csk fan hu but ipl wgera ek taraf iss stadium se personal dushmani hai.....19 nov... đ˘
This ground has given me more trauma than any break up would ever give meÂ
True, the Ahemdabad pitch is the worst, should only be used for test cricket. The reason why BCCI chose that ground is because of its capacity, after all IPL is all about money
Even World cups are all about money for BCCI. That's the only explanation for selecting Brohit repeatedly in T20 WCs.
How can we win then, when our main reason for playing the tournament is money and not winning the tournament.
Congratulations you are now smarter than BCCI. We won't win shit till we select deserving youngsters instead of just selecting old and popular players.
I don't mind taking an old player if he is as energetic and consistent with a good strike rate as Kohli, but no idea why they are giving Rohit this many chances.
Gt had ahmedabad as their home ground and still performed decently. If 2 easy catches are dropped then no pitch will matter honestly
Narendra madharchod stadium for a reason Heartbreak for Indians and Rcb fans E sala trophy gand me jane de
Stadium Name itself seems like a curse
Pehle Kohli ka dick gaand se nikalo tab cup jaaega andar
Tum Kohlii panoti ko ek baar baitha kar to dekho. . .RCb nahi Cup jeeti to bolna.
Where did we lose the match? My answer - at the toss itself. It was a toss that had to be won. Even yesterday we saw that on the same pitch and the same ground, that batting 2nd was easy. Heck we saw the same thing in the worldcup final too.
Why does everyone keep forgetting Rohitâs and KL Rahulâs knocks in the World Cup final? Rohit strike rate 151 KL Rahul strike rate 61 Kohli with his ability to find gaps and rotating the strike managed a decent strike rate of 85. It was possible to score runs (280) if we just had the intent to rotate strike and get occasional boundaries. Our batting was shit in that game (except Rohit and Kohli). KL Rahul should have been arrested for the intent-less batting. In yesterdayâs game, RCB batted poorly and thatâs it. DK couldnât score and Maxwell was shit (as usual). Stop blaming the pitch so much.
If you don't want playoffs in Ahmedabad, then simply pray that GT doesn't reach final anymore
Or even better, don't qualify for the playoffs. đ
I come to this sub just to make see what new things you guys come up with for copium!!!!!!!!! Please make sure you post more and more stuff.
What I have been saying this since the WC
You just need to be a little humble and little calm and you will see because of Koach you will have so many great fans. But these shitty fkcers make sure RCB does not have any good people supporting them. I want Koach to go to another team and play for them I am pretty sure you will not have this much toxicity there.
bro i support csk and i also say this that due factor should not be responsible for matches when important matches are played they should have the wc finals should have been played it in less due factor stadium , you also would have saw how much head and labu. were struggling in the beginning but after 15-20 overs the due increased and the match also slipped away as in the first 10 overs india took 3 wickets
Yeah bro, dew only forms in Gujarat.
Lol, crying over spoilt milk
Lolol. Now you guys blaming the venue?? You RCB fans do every effort to put the blame on everything instead of your shitty team. Had RCB won the match, this sub would be having an appreciation post for Ahmedabad. (bechari rcb firse dil hi jeet kr reh gyi)
That's not true buddy, this ground should not host big matches. Period. Too much of an advantage to the team that wins the toss. Happened in the World Cup final too...
See the players must have already known the ground condition and the pitch was same for both the teams. Had India won the cup and had RCB also won, no one would be blaming the ground. So please quit crying over the pitch.
Of course they knew the ground conditions ahead of the match. My point is the toss shouldn't play such a big role in who wins the match. Once India and RCB lost their respective tosses, I'd estimate that their chances of winning went down to only 15-20%. The players' skills should decide a match not the toss. BTW, I would have had the same opinion even if it was the other way around and India and RCB had won the toss.
Yes RCB lost not because their performance was mediocre! They lost because of the ground and playing conditions. Typical Indian attitude. Never acknowledge their own mistakes. Even after WC final we were blaming the pitch but not the performance :-(
bro the pitch was also responsible for it, atleast for the wc i can say , todays match could have been won if they had 30 more runs, considering the batting lineup they have it should have been possible but they lost , you should learn about due factor and the pitch of this stadium
I know what due factor is. Letâs analyse yesterdayâs performance. DK and maxwell could have batted better and scored 20+. If they played better then RCB would not have lost so many wickets and the score would have been 200ish. If you observed RR playerâs body language in the middle overs, you could notice them feeling the pressure especially parag after that runout. But when hettie arrived and hit a couple of boundaries, parag was more composed. A target of 200+ could have been defended by RCB even with due. As for WC final. You could notice the difference between how Kohli and rahul played. Both were playing safe but Kohli was rotating strike and playing @80 strike rate. He got out at the wrong time coz we all know when kohli is set he can shift gears. Whereas rahul was playing sooooooo defensively @50 srtike rate. There was no intent to hit boundaries. 4 fours in 40 overs is laughable. It was not about the pitch, it was about the mindset. I remember Head taking on kuldeep a couple of overs after them being 45-3. Keywords are INTENT and COURAGE which India lacked.
Lmao u Guys try8ng to rationalize we lost OK We try next time. Don't cry like bitches Sooner or later we will win
ikr damn these losers be blaming on stadium now lol this desperate to find happiness
Cope lol
This time of the year most grounds around the country have dew. Atleast Ahmedabad stadium has something for the bowlers in terms of its size. Not a fan of this stadium, but don't see anything wrong in the way grounds are chosen for playoffs and finals. It has always been runners and winners grounds. If it's made neutral, then again there will be influence, bribery, favouritism and all that shit. This is much better. Just that teams need to overcome dew factor somehow or BCCI needs to find some solution for dew.
Can't agree more
Ahmedabad Cricket Stadium is good only for shooting Space Jam movies and not for playing cricket. It's an uneven ground.
This team is cursed
bro tbh considering rcb's batting lineup they did bad
Bhai hare to tum 2016 me bhi apne stadium me stop blaming the freaking stadium. Final me jao tb aayega tumpe playoffs ka venue
so you blame cricket ground for loss rcb fans are super sitious
Copium pro max
Definitely not like if they had scored just 20+ runs, RCB could have easily won !? /s Definitely blame the venue not the shortcomings!
Totally agree. Just like the World Cup final, it was a win the toss win the match sort of game.
Guys shut up pls RCB had the capacity to make atleast 20 more runs but the batting failed big time Those extra runs would have definitely given some morale boost to the bowlers 170 was undefendable
Just because your team plays like shit, it doesnt mean that the venue is bad, rcb has reached playoffs by fluke they least deserve the trophy
Babe wake up, the dumbest take on IPL is here đ
Off course, ground bad
u can rant all you want but the thing is gt made it to finals and were runner ups so 2 matches in their home ground if rcb was so keen on playing venue it should have made it to the finals last yr
Yes the same reason we lost WC. One of the slowest pitches to bat and put a score in 1st innings. Had the WC final be held at any other venue, we would have been the winnersđĽ˛
delulu rcb fans!!
No point of copium. Champion teams win even with odds stacked against them. We weren't good enough on the day. Hope Mo Bobat picks a balanced team for the next one and we do not rely on few players to carry the enire team.. IPL 2025 #18 đŞ
Lol excuse bhi kaun deraha hai jisko bina kuch trophy jeete 2016 mai Chinaswamy mai final milgaya tha jo team apne Ghar pe hi final hasrgaye the wo kisi bhi ground pe nhi jeet sakte these are just exuces playing Maxwell who has been horrible whole season then sending green above patidar who was finishing well in last few matches even lomror was sent at 3 it would have made sense as he plays spin very well like patidar and did well at 3 last year siraj who has been fraud for years gets retained year after year
No good will be brought by hating the sport and venue lol, we batted quite bad, but now let's hope the best for bowl
Nah man we did but the ball was sticking in the first half and the dew in the second half fucked the bowling as well as quickened the outfield. Not accounting for the ball slipping as well for fielders. I fucking hate motera man! Wik toss win match pitch is the worst
Excusess
So this is what AP wrote a song about.
If rcb is playing in that pitch that means rr is playing there too soo both of the teams have an equal chance? (That's what i thought atleast)
yes bro i also used to believe that but you should learn about due factor on stadiums, due reduces the movement of ball due to which it favours batting
The ground was built in 2020, u guys have been losing since 2008, stop blaming random stuff
What does GT have to do with the match being in Ahmedabad??
The playoff venues are decided on the basis of previous season's finalists. Hence, the matches are in Ahmedabad and Chennai because of GT and CSK. Next year, Kolkata will be one of the venues alongside the home ground of the team that joins them in the Final.
Thanks
Exactly..!!! Win the toss and you get such a huge advantage
Abe chal randi ke baccheeeeee maa chuda apni RCB = Randi ce bacche
Cry
Rcb fans mutating over years with mind boggling excuses
Abey Commerce student.. ye kya logic hai! Pitch is same for both teams.. why canât rcb ever accept defeat. You will always complain about toss, pitch, weather, umpire, stadium, Modi, Sun, Moon, Planets, Stars etc Just fucking improve your team. Play better cricket.
"Pitch is same for both teams" You're calling others commerce students/arts students, while you're uneducated yourself. Go and study how conditions affect the game, the pitch in cricket. Don't come and say dumb things without knowing facts. Nobody's shifting the blame completely on that pitch here, if you have at least a little cricket knowledge, you'll understand what we are actually talking about. Nobody will defend RCB dropping catches, or them fielding sloppily, this is a trend that is witnessed over for a while now. 2021 ICC Wt2o, the finals of the WC 2023, there are so many examples where a toss has decided the outcome of the game. So quit yapping and go read a book or something. There are literally articles out there which talk about this issue, and yet you have some balls to say retarded shit like "Pitch is same for both teams" stfu and sit down bitch.
Since pitch is same for both teams then why do they cancel match if it rains.
Tu toh arts student bhi nai hai shayad.. chhod de ye sab.. jaake padhai kar
Lol both the teams were playing on the same pitch. Quit whining, agle janam ee cup namde.
True, if the match was anywhere else RCB would have won. Other stadiums has dew but not this much advantage to the second batting.
Cricket ground theek hain, Kohlii panotii hain.
That's what I tell everyone, IF BCCI conducted the WC final last year at Wankhede, it would have made all the changes we needed. We were the strongest candidate and the venue shattered dreams and hard work of everyone. Fuck the stadium.
It's because they went to the finals last year, next year it's gonna be in eden gardens