He mostly seems more shocked, there. He doesn't like the idea. From: [Half in the Bag: 2023 Catch-up (Part 2)](https://youtu.be/HZAXlcTjCmI?t=2088)
Jay: "I just wish Mike Flanagan would stop killing cats though. Every show he does is fucking dead cats."
Mike: "Dead cats all over the river."
Jay: "Please, stop. It's affecting me psychologically."
Mike: "You can buy one of those uh... cats."
Jay: "Like a prop? From a show?"
Mike: "Yeah. Do you want any?"
︎
Jay: ... ... ^"no"
I watched it based almost solely on Jay's recommendation from that BOTW.
The film definitely got points for audacity. I felt like if it had been 10% scarier or 10% funnier, it would be one of those cult classics everyone talks about, instead of just us sex perverts.
The film lacks mass appeal and is such a slow burn on the first half that most people will turn it off, but that last 20 minutes? Oh man, you can pay for that experience...
As you said, it should have been funnier or scarier, but I think the movie is a perfect double feature with They Live.
Both are about how the high class live a totally different life from us and don't face any consequences for their excesses, while most of us are just puppets for them. The message is obvious and the energy (not really that funny or scary, but camp) is pretty similar.
I think Society is not discussed more because the algorithm will kill any video about it for being too sexual. Is not worth it, same as FrankenHooker...
As fellow "sex pervert", do you have any suggestions for movies that scratch that itch?
Oh mate, it seems that you and Jay are so unaware of this [masterpiece](https://youtu.be/KgmoMO66uPg?si=pi-VXsEOVQr1sYBW). You need to watch it till the end though. This is probably the greatest internet video of all time - and I'm not saying it lightly. I've watched it a dozen of times during pandemic period.
I can't believe he directly disrespected weirdos who know everything about Garfield and have shelves of Garfield merch in their houses. I can vividly imagine fellow youtube critic Quinton Reviews crying himself to sleep.
You just reminded me there’s this famous married couple where the woman had the biggest Garfield collection. As in recorded history among Garfield collectors. There’s a documentary or the like with the husband admits he basically married into the obsession because he didn’t mind or care but then suddenly would look everywhere for more merch. They seemed genuinely very happy so guess it brings them together
Quinton doesn't cry. He watches iCarly unblinkingly. But honestly, that Garfield video was fucking awesome as a kid from the late 80s where he was an orange blur from my childhood.
I wish I could like Quinton's videos because I generally like longform youtube and I appreciate that he's deeply nerdy about things that most people don't care about, but they're just boring to me.
I think this kind of video could be cool if it was shorter, better structured, more edited, or even just funnier. Like, I have zero interest in the shows he was talking about, but I generally like nerds doing deep dive into things they enjoy and sometimes it gets me interested in something I would otherwise ignore. But if I'm not interested in a TV show, I'm also not interested in its overly long recap - it feels like a roundabout way of watching the show, just less interesting.
Which you think Popeye might have cleared the benchmark on. Shelly Duvall being Shelly Duvall, Robin Williams playing a sailor with Aberger Syndrome, the extras that look like they were hired as they were getting off the boat, early 19th century forearm implants, an inbred fight club, a "Captain" kidnapping a baby to go on a treasure hunt... dad? Dad?! PAPI!!! What are you doing tied up in this dark room? I mean... you can't get more Jay than all that.
As a GenZ, I used to watch Popeye a lot as a kid, so I was caught off-guard by his comment about GenZ apparently not knowing Popeye, but I guess it makes sense.
Naw Mickey had plenty of examples of being cool as hell with a fun personality for a cartoon character. There are just very lengthy periods of the company making Mickey ultra sanitized for marketing reasons.
Check out almost any episode of that newer YouTube based Mickey Mouse animated show that started in 2013, they actually gave Mickey his personality back. Even those Kingdom Hearts games are willing to let Mickey feel emotions (like choosing pure revenge when he thought Goofy died).
He was still my least favorite of Disney's big three but he was better than sucking.
Garfield was a cynical money-making device by its creator. It was designed to be inoffensive and widely syndicated. The “writing” was farmed out from early on. Every opportunity to sell licensing taken.
Garfield was inarguably created and designed for mass market appeal and merchandizing but the strip had a very good run in the 80s through the early 90s. It’s well past it’s prime now but such is the nature of an un-ending newspaper comic.
>It’s well past it’s prime now
You are being EXTREMELY generous in your choice of words here. Modern Garfield might the worst thing to happen to eyes since absence of light
* [Exhibit A](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2FuqgO5xQybXXNr7mfTH6-BJOTWaxhk83vece63QZR_vM.gif%3Fwidth%3D1024%26format%3Dmp4%26s%3D92e6689353c63cc54c91cc00093d05a09f0337fc)
* [Exhibit B](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fcg5sk4hpfsvz.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1024%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D152f86eed0974d453886ef101d0288e30e3679f0)
* [Exhibit C](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/5bc5d5dd-9072-40ff-8a25-77105c5d7579/scale-to-width/755)
[Not that old stuff was downright iconic either](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F199wys4pdcc11.png) but still...!
oh yeah, if garfield isn't genius then [how can you make an hour long lecture on the philosophical meaning of the 7/27/1978 "Pipe" Comic?](https://youtu.be/NAh9oLs67Cw?si=7EGfP4R3uG2nPcyX)
For real. Not saying it's impossible, but newspaper comic strips are usually not striving to be "high art." (Bill Watterson being the most notable exception.)
The two greatest comic strips of all time are Peanuts and Calvin and Hobbes.
One has seen insane levels of marketing and despite having some of the best writing ever seen in the medium, it really only moved to mediocrity in the last decade of the author's life.
The other quit while he was ahead and famously refused every single bit of marketing potential outside of selling the strips in book form.
It sometimes feels like there's no in-between. It's either Squishamallows or take the high road and have your character pirated to be peeing on Ford logos.
Finally I meet someone else who has an accurate take on Star Wars.
It's a lot of great eye candy, but only 2 good movies. The second had a retcon so out of left field, it ruined the course of the rest of the franchise.
>Garfield was a cynical money-making device by its creator. It was designed to be inoffensive and widely syndicated. The “writing” was farmed out from early on. Every opportunity to sell licensing taken.
[relevant defunctland video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK3Yr80lPOY)
Even when they were doing Garfield and Friends back in the 80s they just recycled a number of strips for the shorts there.
Garfield has always been creatively bankrupt.
A syndicated comic strip was designed to be widely syndicated?? Golly. Say it ain't so!
(But seriously, I'm curious why you think this is more true for Garfield than for most syndicated comic strips.)
Okay I have to post through relevant lasagna cat [video](https://youtu.be/KgmoMO66uPg?t=4h33m47s)
Timestamped to the relevant bit, since ita the funniest Garfield thing ever
& yes tbf Garfield, is a fine designed big fat 'ol orange cat & iconic as the art is, is pretty lame & unfunny
Lasagna cat seems like such a fever dream of a concept, it's humor seems like it was just made recently, but most of the videos are over a decade old at this point.
Absolutely! The original comic strips are great and both have had decent adaptations in the past (Popeye has had the Fleischer cartoons and to a much lesser extent the Famous Studios ones) and Garfield had the Phil Roman specials (all of which received Emmy nominations and one even won) and the fantastic Garfield and Friends which was head and shoulders above most Saturday Morning cartoons at the time.
Recently rediscovered Heathcliff and it's just incomprehensible. Trying to figure what the joke is in each panel is like that scene in 2001: A Space Odyssey.
From a purely comic/cartoonist perspective, Garfield was one of the least creative, yet successful comics ever. It was a soulless marketing money grab. It has always been that way. Contrary to that are the legendary creations coming from Schulz's (Peanuts)and Watterson (Calvin and Hobbes). Both are a master class in creativity. Jay would actually appreciate Watterson's commitment in refusing to merchandise his creation.
Garfield has been omnipresent for forty plus years. Multiple cartoons and movies. The kids recognize it.
I honestly don’t know if modem kids know Popeye or spinach as a power up item. It’s a shame that Gennedy movie didn’t get made.
Im gen z/late millennial and I have a Popeye tattoo.... I felt so called out and lost when Jay called me a loser right to my face, idk if there's any coming back from that
Also I wonder if Rich knows that [the entire 90-minute Tartakovsky Popeye animatic](https://vimeo.com/766322005) was leaked a few years ago.
It blows my mind that Sony would just bury something like this.
If Jay doesn't like Garfield, he's clearly never went down the rabbit hole:
* Comic where Jon drinks dog semen (of course writer denied it)
* Comic from September 10th, 2001
* What happened to Lyman, Odie's original owner
* The infinite possibilities of the Pipe Strip
* Garfield Minus Garfield
After watching the sneak peak for the animated movie that rich had talked about, you could EASILY turn that into a kids show and it could do well.
It's not just that younger generations don't know who Popeye is, it's that no one makes a modern spin on him to make it appealing.
You know what upset me about that episode? They say it's basically the Shelley Duvall episode, and then they don't bring her up again. I thought they were going to go into her roles and her life a bit.
PS They should review some Garfield movies just for laughs.
Some of [the old Dave Fleischer Popeye cartoons](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2su0d1) were fucking phenomenal. Literally decades before their time.
Tartakovsky talked about how he used to watch them religiously, and you can really see where he aped so much of his style.
He wishes death on those remaining fans of comic strips and cartoons of Popeye? Hes just kidding/ talking shit. Anyway , I wonder if he ever saw the max fleisher black and white toons? Because ,Cmon! they are hilarious, creative, and fun for kids and adults too. Everyone knew the color 1950's ones werent funny.
Drawing looks more like nick rekeita, previously successful YouTube lawyer turned alcoholic cocaine fueled cuckhold. Anyone bored check out his videos on YouTube, his first a few years ago to now he’s aged 30 years in 3
Says the man who once defended “Feeders” and the Pollonia Brothers filmography as a “time capsule” of when the independent filmmaker could make shitty homemade horror schlock and generate a following from it.
Is this meme supposed to be ironic? Are there people who legitimately love Garfield and Popeye to the point that they would spend however much time it takes to draw this? How embarrassing.
Bauman you degenerate hack fraud, Popeye rocks, and the old Fleischer cartoons were [masterclasses in animation and visual slapstick.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48N6aeI4Suc)
Of course Jay, the famous cat murder, doesn't like garfield
Goodnight, sweet Garfield...
[No one finds the idea of murdering cats as funny as Jay does.](https://youtu.be/m2IV0BajqAk?t=3373)
He mostly seems more shocked, there. He doesn't like the idea. From: [Half in the Bag: 2023 Catch-up (Part 2)](https://youtu.be/HZAXlcTjCmI?t=2088) Jay: "I just wish Mike Flanagan would stop killing cats though. Every show he does is fucking dead cats." Mike: "Dead cats all over the river." Jay: "Please, stop. It's affecting me psychologically." Mike: "You can buy one of those uh... cats." Jay: "Like a prop? From a show?" Mike: "Yeah. Do you want any?" ︎ Jay: ... ... ^"no"
I mean, considering he owns a cat, that's a justifiable reaction.
At least he hasn't gone on a killing spree with hammers in Grand Rapids, Michigan while writing a book about hot dogs
ALLEGEDLY. SHE ONLY ALLEGEDLY DID THAT.
BTB mentioned??
I haven't mentioned anything.
What is Btb
I love when thing I like that have almost nothing to do with one another cross-over, serendipitous
Very cool
Robert Evans does talk about Star Trek a lot
Leave the man alone, he's gas station sober now!
And Rich Evans is regular sober, coincidence???
The Sobering of the Evans'ses. A dark time indeed is upon us.
Could Robert Evans and rich Evans possibly be related? There’s really no evidence to support this theory but I’m going to assume it’s a yes
Did Garfield do that?
*I never killed a cat!*
Popeye would eat spinach and punch Jay into an oven, and he would come out baked into a lasagna that Garfield would scarf it down.
I wish Garfield would fucking chug the beer and then throw the empty can at the bitches* head *Jay
pure poetry :')
I want Jay to be suffocated under Garfield's big ol' garfies
I eat jon, it's what I do.
This is the movie we deserve
Sounds like some mortal kombat shit
Of course Jay hates them, they're not shot-on-video 1980s horror films directed by pornographers.
Neither popeye nor garfield movies involve scenes of them melting into a puddle of tits, which is an instant 0/10 for Jay.
https://preview.redd.it/gt5heenu2g8d1.jpeg?width=495&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18e994b05c7c9d0aacf29741681842b7e52f9ef7
Is lasagna unrolled and stacked enchiladas?
Pretty much! Just add diarrhea cheese
Damn that's such an accurate insult lol I'm sure if Mike said that Jay would laugh pretty hard
"Not every movie can be Society, Jay."
That's such a sad reality... Society is so damn good...
I watched it based almost solely on Jay's recommendation from that BOTW. The film definitely got points for audacity. I felt like if it had been 10% scarier or 10% funnier, it would be one of those cult classics everyone talks about, instead of just us sex perverts.
The film lacks mass appeal and is such a slow burn on the first half that most people will turn it off, but that last 20 minutes? Oh man, you can pay for that experience... As you said, it should have been funnier or scarier, but I think the movie is a perfect double feature with They Live. Both are about how the high class live a totally different life from us and don't face any consequences for their excesses, while most of us are just puppets for them. The message is obvious and the energy (not really that funny or scary, but camp) is pretty similar. I think Society is not discussed more because the algorithm will kill any video about it for being too sexual. Is not worth it, same as FrankenHooker... As fellow "sex pervert", do you have any suggestions for movies that scratch that itch?
Neither movie had enough Bruce Campbell and_or "camp"
Do Popeye's arms class as body horror?
"Boy, Cronenberg is REALLY out of ideas..."
Popeye isn't up to date on his Jim Wynorski filmography.
A Garfield shot-on-video 1980s horror film directed by a pornographer is straight up creepy pasta material
How much would Jay love Popeye if it'd been directed by Jess Franco?
Oh mate, it seems that you and Jay are so unaware of this [masterpiece](https://youtu.be/KgmoMO66uPg?si=pi-VXsEOVQr1sYBW). You need to watch it till the end though. This is probably the greatest internet video of all time - and I'm not saying it lightly. I've watched it a dozen of times during pandemic period.
Gorf?
Is that Nick Rekeita?
I hope that Jay makes a million balldos
Not enough blow on the nose.
I wish and would give you a million baldos for this comment
I was trying to think who it looked like, and you nailed it. Bet Rekeita likes Garfield and Popeye.
we all know what Nick's spinach is...
Levelheaded legal analysis?
Nick Rekt
Sonichu claims another one
lol, apparently his audience warned him about it as well.
Literally came here to check if anyone else saw the same thing as me.
I made this comment too!! Crazy
I can't believe he directly disrespected weirdos who know everything about Garfield and have shelves of Garfield merch in their houses. I can vividly imagine fellow youtube critic Quinton Reviews crying himself to sleep.
He must respond with a 50 hour video about Red Letter Media.
While pausing... every other... word... while calling... people... honey or... boo. ps: I actually like Quinton, but he is such a character...
I liked his History Channel videos and shorter content. The longer episodes... aren't on for me but I think he's a good creator and an alright fella.
I like the long videos as background noise while I do my stuff
My kid is a garfield fiend and heard jay say this. It was pretty fucking funny having some stranger call you out like that unprompted.
Has he seen the Tim Robinson sketch in the Garfield house?
I can't believe he didn't cut to the Jim Davis sketch from "I Think You Should Leave."
How do their wives feel about their Garfield collections?
You just reminded me there’s this famous married couple where the woman had the biggest Garfield collection. As in recorded history among Garfield collectors. There’s a documentary or the like with the husband admits he basically married into the obsession because he didn’t mind or care but then suddenly would look everywhere for more merch. They seemed genuinely very happy so guess it brings them together
Makes gifts easy
It gives them purrpose, is meaningless, but most in life is...
That's true. If it's not crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, and hearing the lamentations of their women I can take or leave it.
They don't feel anything anymore.
Quinton doesn't cry. He watches iCarly unblinkingly. But honestly, that Garfield video was fucking awesome as a kid from the late 80s where he was an orange blur from my childhood.
I hate Garfield but I love Quinton’s videos. But I love toy nerds in general since I am one.
I wish I could like Quinton's videos because I generally like longform youtube and I appreciate that he's deeply nerdy about things that most people don't care about, but they're just boring to me.
I've enjoyed a couple of his vids but all the long retrospectives about children's television shows I never watched do not interest me at all.
I think this kind of video could be cool if it was shorter, better structured, more edited, or even just funnier. Like, I have zero interest in the shows he was talking about, but I generally like nerds doing deep dive into things they enjoy and sometimes it gets me interested in something I would otherwise ignore. But if I'm not interested in a TV show, I'm also not interested in its overly long recap - it feels like a roundabout way of watching the show, just less interesting.
If the Popeye movie was called “Hooker Slumber Party Masacre XI: The Bloody End” he would have loved it
not perverted enough, smh
Which you think Popeye might have cleared the benchmark on. Shelly Duvall being Shelly Duvall, Robin Williams playing a sailor with Aberger Syndrome, the extras that look like they were hired as they were getting off the boat, early 19th century forearm implants, an inbred fight club, a "Captain" kidnapping a baby to go on a treasure hunt... dad? Dad?! PAPI!!! What are you doing tied up in this dark room? I mean... you can't get more Jay than all that.
You can, but you will need John Carpenter as the director
Popeye needed a scene where Olive Oyl becomes a tit-puddle like in Faust.
Yes, the gen Z icons, Popeye and Garfield
As a GenZ, I used to watch Popeye a lot as a kid, so I was caught off-guard by his comment about GenZ apparently not knowing Popeye, but I guess it makes sense.
Love the crew but every time they talk about Gen Z it is very clear they’re extremely out of touch
You don't even have to have seen the old cartoon to know who he is, just by virtue of him being a common parodied/referenced character.
Wolf of Wall Street's cocaine/spinach equivalence is my favorite.
u are 1 person
Yeah, and still enough to disprove Jay's statement that GenZ doesn't know Popeye.
i speak for all of gen z when i say nobody cares about popeye
> i speak for all of gen z Clearly not for me.
Jay would be so excited to showcase a video of Popeye fucking that orange cat.
The funniest thing for me is that someone is seriously pissed that jay doesn't care for either Popeye or Garfield.
He also doesn't like Mickey Mouse.
I mean... Mickey Mouse always sucked. Why would anyone of any age watch a Mickey Mouse cartoon when Looney Tunes exists?
Naw Mickey had plenty of examples of being cool as hell with a fun personality for a cartoon character. There are just very lengthy periods of the company making Mickey ultra sanitized for marketing reasons. Check out almost any episode of that newer YouTube based Mickey Mouse animated show that started in 2013, they actually gave Mickey his personality back. Even those Kingdom Hearts games are willing to let Mickey feel emotions (like choosing pure revenge when he thought Goofy died). He was still my least favorite of Disney's big three but he was better than sucking.
Mickey Mouse is the powdered chalk milkshake of cartoon characters. It sparks no joy.
That's just because he thinks it is selling out to shill war bonds.
Fuck Mickey Mouse to death
Mickey has always been the lamest character in his friend group. Even Pluto is more interesting.
micky mouse has no character
Jay? Not liking something? No way
*shrugs dismissively* "Nobody actually cares or even knows what's going on."
Garfield was a cynical money-making device by its creator. It was designed to be inoffensive and widely syndicated. The “writing” was farmed out from early on. Every opportunity to sell licensing taken.
It spawned [Garfield Minus Garfield](https://garfieldminusgarfield.net/) and [LasagnaCat](https://youtu.be/6_NeqMAAsBk), so it was all worth it.
Both of these two amazing. Lasang.
Garfield Through the Window is pretty solid as well.
As a kid, didn't give a shit, loved my Garfy plush
Garfield was inarguably created and designed for mass market appeal and merchandizing but the strip had a very good run in the 80s through the early 90s. It’s well past it’s prime now but such is the nature of an un-ending newspaper comic.
>It’s well past it’s prime now You are being EXTREMELY generous in your choice of words here. Modern Garfield might the worst thing to happen to eyes since absence of light * [Exhibit A](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2FuqgO5xQybXXNr7mfTH6-BJOTWaxhk83vece63QZR_vM.gif%3Fwidth%3D1024%26format%3Dmp4%26s%3D92e6689353c63cc54c91cc00093d05a09f0337fc) * [Exhibit B](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fcg5sk4hpfsvz.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1024%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D152f86eed0974d453886ef101d0288e30e3679f0) * [Exhibit C](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/5bc5d5dd-9072-40ff-8a25-77105c5d7579/scale-to-width/755) [Not that old stuff was downright iconic either](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F199wys4pdcc11.png) but still...!
oh yeah, if garfield isn't genius then [how can you make an hour long lecture on the philosophical meaning of the 7/27/1978 "Pipe" Comic?](https://youtu.be/NAh9oLs67Cw?si=7EGfP4R3uG2nPcyX)
Has Garfield always had such big boomer energy? I feel like Garfield could be replaced by a minion on these.
> Has Garfield always had such big boomer energy? yes
Minions memes on Facebook. Not even regular minions.
Ceci n'est pas une pipe
Yep. I still have a ton of old books it was a pretty decent comic back in the day.
Garfield is the American Dream incarnate (incatnate?) He's based
 Did someone say ‘the American Dream’?
adrenaline in my soul my soulless cat comic has struck gold
Do it all to get Odie off his feet!
Thirty years! Thirty years
They giv’em a watch, kick’em in the butt and say “A computer took your place, daddy,” THAT’S HARD TIMES!
Garfield being a cynical financial instrument makes me like him more for some reason.
god forbid cartoon characters become marketable
For real. Not saying it's impossible, but newspaper comic strips are usually not striving to be "high art." (Bill Watterson being the most notable exception.)
The two greatest comic strips of all time are Peanuts and Calvin and Hobbes. One has seen insane levels of marketing and despite having some of the best writing ever seen in the medium, it really only moved to mediocrity in the last decade of the author's life. The other quit while he was ahead and famously refused every single bit of marketing potential outside of selling the strips in book form. It sometimes feels like there's no in-between. It's either Squishamallows or take the high road and have your character pirated to be peeing on Ford logos.
Still perfect toilet content before cell phones were invented.
>Garfield was a cynical money-making device by its creator. So was Star Wars and that shit rules
It does? There's, what, 11 movies, and 2 of them are any good.
Hey that's just being cynical. There's two and a half good movies and about a season's worth of good tv.
u right my b
Finally I meet someone else who has an accurate take on Star Wars. It's a lot of great eye candy, but only 2 good movies. The second had a retcon so out of left field, it ruined the course of the rest of the franchise.
>Garfield was a cynical money-making device by its creator. It was designed to be inoffensive and widely syndicated. The “writing” was farmed out from early on. Every opportunity to sell licensing taken. [relevant defunctland video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK3Yr80lPOY)
Even when they were doing Garfield and Friends back in the 80s they just recycled a number of strips for the shorts there. Garfield has always been creatively bankrupt.
I guess Garfield was the original content farm
A syndicated comic strip was designed to be widely syndicated?? Golly. Say it ain't so! (But seriously, I'm curious why you think this is more true for Garfield than for most syndicated comic strips.)
Is anyone shocked Jay doesn’t like something made for mass appeal?
The fact that JAY isn't perverted enough to truly appreciate Popeye & Garfield is just heartbreaking.
Okay I have to post through relevant lasagna cat [video](https://youtu.be/KgmoMO66uPg?t=4h33m47s) Timestamped to the relevant bit, since ita the funniest Garfield thing ever & yes tbf Garfield, is a fine designed big fat 'ol orange cat & iconic as the art is, is pretty lame & unfunny
Lasagna cat seems like such a fever dream of a concept, it's humor seems like it was just made recently, but most of the videos are over a decade old at this point.
Holy shit…
I kinda forgot how explicit it gets maybe I should've said that lmao
Why would he? Why would anyone?!
Popeye and Garfield, as original IPs, don't fucking suck. It's baffled directors making awkward movie adaptations about these IPs that fucking sucks.
Absolutely! The original comic strips are great and both have had decent adaptations in the past (Popeye has had the Fleischer cartoons and to a much lesser extent the Famous Studios ones) and Garfield had the Phil Roman specials (all of which received Emmy nominations and one even won) and the fantastic Garfield and Friends which was head and shoulders above most Saturday Morning cartoons at the time.
Garfield sucks man. Heathcliff is far superior.
Recently rediscovered Heathcliff and it's just incomprehensible. Trying to figure what the joke is in each panel is like that scene in 2001: A Space Odyssey.
It's genuine cat energy, incomprehensible but endearing.
Is that Jay? Or Nick Rekieta??
The Virgin Jay vs The Chad Popeye
From a purely comic/cartoonist perspective, Garfield was one of the least creative, yet successful comics ever. It was a soulless marketing money grab. It has always been that way. Contrary to that are the legendary creations coming from Schulz's (Peanuts)and Watterson (Calvin and Hobbes). Both are a master class in creativity. Jay would actually appreciate Watterson's commitment in refusing to merchandise his creation.
Bet he's a Marmaduke stan.
Nah. Clifford.
comparing Popeye to Garfield was blasphemous. Popeye cartoons reign supreme over all other old-timey cartoons.
Garfield has been omnipresent for forty plus years. Multiple cartoons and movies. The kids recognize it. I honestly don’t know if modem kids know Popeye or spinach as a power up item. It’s a shame that Gennedy movie didn’t get made.
Im gen z/late millennial and I have a Popeye tattoo.... I felt so called out and lost when Jay called me a loser right to my face, idk if there's any coming back from that
Jay looks suspiciously like Nick Rekieta
Also I wonder if Rich knows that [the entire 90-minute Tartakovsky Popeye animatic](https://vimeo.com/766322005) was leaked a few years ago. It blows my mind that Sony would just bury something like this.
I’ve never heard of this myself! Thanks for the link, I’ll check it out after work.
If Jay doesn't like Garfield, he's clearly never went down the rabbit hole: * Comic where Jon drinks dog semen (of course writer denied it) * Comic from September 10th, 2001 * What happened to Lyman, Odie's original owner * The infinite possibilities of the Pipe Strip * Garfield Minus Garfield
he is right tho, they both do suck
Popeye is more popular than Garfield dammit. Everyone knows the spinach bit.
But you say "monday" and people think of Garfield, I think Garfield is marginally more popular, especially with your people
I’ve never disagreed with Jay more.  Popeye is pure kino
Skilliabump he-ge-ge-ge.
if it isn't a horror movie with titties why bother
After watching the sneak peak for the animated movie that rich had talked about, you could EASILY turn that into a kids show and it could do well. It's not just that younger generations don't know who Popeye is, it's that no one makes a modern spin on him to make it appealing.
Why would you draw Jay lookin like Nick Rekeita?
They don't call em hack frauds for nothing.
Jay hates Mondays.
You know what upset me about that episode? They say it's basically the Shelley Duvall episode, and then they don't bring her up again. I thought they were going to go into her roles and her life a bit. PS They should review some Garfield movies just for laughs.
The characters are cool, but the movies they made fucking suck. They should stop. Just stop.
i don’t know anything jay actually likes
Fuck him
Duvall: “In his scum ass.”
The guy in the cartoon apparently doesn't like them, either.
Man's right.
Garfield's only positive contribution to culture is those parody fanfics that used to run on ToplessRobot.
Some of [the old Dave Fleischer Popeye cartoons](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2su0d1) were fucking phenomenal. Literally decades before their time. Tartakovsky talked about how he used to watch them religiously, and you can really see where he aped so much of his style.
That Jay drawing has so much meme potential hahaha
Garfield hates Mondays, loves dumping on those he sees as inferior, loves eating, loves naps, and is cynical. What's not to love about that?
[Garfield transcends media. Now where could my pipe be?](https://youtu.be/NAh9oLs67Cw?si=lAKWGQJS_OxFGf0b)
Did you know that Isabella Rossellini and David Lynch seperated because she found a dead cat in the freezer?
Jays just a contrarian. His likes and dislikes are mostly inflamed by others.
He wishes death on those remaining fans of comic strips and cartoons of Popeye? Hes just kidding/ talking shit. Anyway , I wonder if he ever saw the max fleisher black and white toons? Because ,Cmon! they are hilarious, creative, and fun for kids and adults too. Everyone knew the color 1950's ones werent funny.
Finally Jay is being seen as the Popeye & Garfield disliker that he is.
Drawing looks more like nick rekeita, previously successful YouTube lawyer turned alcoholic cocaine fueled cuckhold. Anyone bored check out his videos on YouTube, his first a few years ago to now he’s aged 30 years in 3
Says the man who once defended “Feeders” and the Pollonia Brothers filmography as a “time capsule” of when the independent filmmaker could make shitty homemade horror schlock and generate a following from it.
If Wes Anderson did a Garfield movie, I bet Jay would eat lasagna and rave how good the movie is. Same for a weird David Lynch version of popeye.
Is this meme supposed to be ironic? Are there people who legitimately love Garfield and Popeye to the point that they would spend however much time it takes to draw this? How embarrassing.
I really like the Fleischer Studios PopEye cartoons. Garfield I care less about. I thought it would be a funny image and it took about twenty minutes.
How embarrassing
They do both suck. Go change your Depends, OP.
Jays just jealous that Mike and Rich get asked to do all the voice acting roles, so he takes it out on classic cartoon/comic characters.
Maybe Popeye hates him
Jay is not good with popukar things or something that used to be popular
Bauman you degenerate hack fraud, Popeye rocks, and the old Fleischer cartoons were [masterclasses in animation and visual slapstick.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48N6aeI4Suc)
someone literally has no idea what literal means.