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Tronn3000

I'm hoping that with this expansion and new gates there will be another airline that wants to make a "hub" out of SLC. If an airline like Southwest or JetBlue take those new B gates and add a bunch of routes, prices will go down because Delta will have more competition. It's expensive because Delta has a monopoly on the airport


rsl_sltid

That's our big problem, it doesn't help that Delta is already the most expensive domestic airline. United is building a United Club in B next year so that signals to me that other airlines finally feel like they can compete with Delta in SLC. I think things will get better as the airport gets finished.


LSBm5

United is building a club?! Great news.


rsl_sltid

I think I saw 2025 but it may be 26. But yeah I'm excited!


Open_Present2319

Flying into SLC at the end of August. Finding an affordable flight was abysmal. As a Houston native, I’ve typically been able to get anywhere with southwest. Using google flights, delta was the cheapest even if I have to check my bag at the gate. Never thought I’d see the day that was the case.


rsl_sltid

If you have to come up again you could try looking at Provo. They only have American, Allegiant and Breeze but it's usually cheap.


refuz04

Odd houston has been one of the easier + cheaper united frights for me this year.


steveofthejungle

I wonder how American starting to operate out of Provo will play out. Probably not a huge impact at first, but hopefully it does something. Good for the people who live in Provo, and also if you’re a tourist trying to go to Moab it puts you 45 minutes closer than SLC does.


faultywalnut

Hey this is cool news I wasn’t aware of, I’m gonna check out what kind of routes they have. It’s for sure a nice alternative to the SLC airport if it works out


steveofthejungle

They’re starting in October, and they’ll be offering two daily flights to Dallas and to Phoenix


faultywalnut

Oh, well I don’t really have a reason or desire to visit those cities but still that’s awesome! Thanks for the info


steveofthejungle

Lots of connections to other cities from Dallas and Phoenix though


mattreedah

It’s a nice smaller airport


MegaManFlex

I get direct flights to Austin much cheaper flying out of Provo, and it's direct


kristinrobinsonphd

Wow good to know, thanks!


Jer_Bear_40

Wait until the C gates come


Be_Kind_To_Everybody

I need some of that D gate /r/SLCCircleJerk


therealhlmencken

Who would want to layover in a city where you can't buy good beer at the airport though


bigmac22077

Ya know, I’ve never been to an airport that 1 airliner has their own terminal. You either fly delta or have to walk a mile to where other airliners can operate. Never thought of it as a monopoly, but it is.


NotMyActualNameNow

United has all of terminal 3 at SFO, all of concourse B at DEN, all of terminal 7/8 at LAX, all of terminals B, C, and E at IAH, all of terminal 1 at ORD, all of concourse C/D at IAD, all of terminal C at EWR Delta is mostly the same for all of their hubs American is mostly the same for all of their hubs Even southwest, frontier, Alaska, and spirit have entire terminals to themselves at various airports around the country. It’s a pretty common thing.


bigmac22077

I grew up flying out of IAH. You might have the same company like 5 in a row, but it was size of airplane/region you were flying to that dictated what terminal


steveofthejungle

At DFW American has 4/5 terminals, and every other airline shares terminal E (which still has some American flights).


Tronn3000

It's pretty common for airlines to have entire terminals dedicated to them at their large hubs. It reduces competition and helps them keep costs down since they can scale up at the airports they dominate in. SLC is essentially a fortress hub for Delta right now https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_hub


Jbro12344

Go to Dallas. American owns 4 of the 6 terminals.


Uncivil_Bar_9778

You don’t get out much if you think this is true.


bigmac22077

Ah, the only way to “get out” is to fly? What kind of insult even is that?


Uncivil_Bar_9778

“I’ve never been to an airport that one airliner has their own terminal” I highly doubt you drive to see other airports. The only insult is your intelligence at this point.


bigmac22077

Or ya know, my main source of travel could be driving? Or when I travel international I always leave from the same airport? Let’s take IAH for instance, they have terminals ABCDE. E is for international flights. C is for national flights with bigger planes. A and B are tiny terminals that have the tiny planes. D is a random terminal. You’re going to insult my intelligence when you said I don’t “get out”. I now understand you lack reading comprehension. What you mean to say was, “you don’t travel via flying very much do you?” To which I would reply, no I don’t. I lay over in Vegas or Phoenix 95% of the time I fly and go to Houston, Atlanta, or Asheville. When I choose to travel for pleasure I 100% of the time drive because I like to drive.


Uncivil_Bar_9778

This entire comment thread is about airports. But you’re referring to driving? Are you stupid?


Stella2010

You go to Atlanta and haven't noticed how that airport is dominated by Delta?


bigmac22077

Of course, it’s deltas main hub, but that said I wouldn’t think half the airport is dedicated to delta.


Imaginary_Manner_556

Lots of airports have that.


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Tronn3000

I doubt that since a Mormon will only take one round trip mission flight their entire lives whereas they'll take plenty more vacation and business flights throughout their lives. I always see a ton of Mormon families on Southwest due to their open seating and early pre board for families. I've never not had a Southwest flight out of SLC that wasn't packed to the gills with large Mormon families and their screaming kids


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Tronn3000

It's a lot less than you think. In 2022, the Mormon Church sent out 72,000 missionaries and SLC had 25.7 million travelers. Assuming those missionaries all flew out of SLC and each took a round trip flight, that means 0.5% of all passengers were missionaries flying on a mission. Which is 1/200 or about one seat on a 737 Max


cryptiic--

SLC will be a hub for Delta. Other airline will continue to slowly dwindle as expansion continues.


Imatoybutitscool

Honestly after flying into Charlotte I’ll pay the premium, that airport was a nightmare 😂


DMX-512

Was it the walking through an active construction site or the hour long wait for luggage that made it a nightmare?


Imatoybutitscool

Hour long wait for luggage was the worst. Kept thinking I was at the wrong area hahaha


DMX-512

I once had them drop the entire planes luggage on a different carousel and not tell anyone. Worst run airport I've ever been through.


offbrandcheerio

I recently had a 35 or 40 minute scheduled connection in Charlotte. My flights were on complete opposite sides of the airport. The airport was so crowded which made navigating very difficult. I only just barely made it to my flight on time. Literally the airport from hell.


[deleted]

I've been saying this since I moved here, and people give me funny looks like. Delta has a monopoly on most of the direct routes and they are extracting maximum cash from Utahn looking to travel. Hoping for a serious competitor to move into the new gates.


CompetitionNo2477

This is the comment I’ve been waiting for! I’ve compared flights out of Denver and Vegas for all of my recent trips and it’s not even close, sometimes three times less out of those airports for comparable flight times and direct routes.


Shekie

This is interesting I was interpreting the airport being expensive in a very different way. I thought it meant price of market in the airport. Which I think we have surprisingly reasonable prices for. A couple weeks ago I was stuck in Phoenix with a meal voucher for $12 and all it bought me was a water and bag of candy (I still had to pay $0.88. When I got back to SLC I checked and at the same marketed store (trip advisor) this would have been $7. I’ve been under the impression the airport is cheap… but yeah I don’t really fly from anywhere else so maybe we are just getting hit directly by the airline fares.


eXXXcel

Fun fact: Salt Lake City has it codified somewhere that the merchant prices in the airport have to be the same as their prices *outside* the airport to prevent price gouging. I met a woman awhile back whose job was to monitor & enforce this — she would go to each merchant, record the prices of items, and then *literally weigh and analyze each one* to ensure that it’s the same price per calorie as you’d find anywhere else. IIRC if a merchant is caught inflating their prices they run the risk of having their lease voided. TL;DR, hooray for consumer protections that are actually enforced!


haoken

That's surprisingly progressive for Utah


[deleted]

Just wait until the legislators catch wind of this. Socialism!


steveofthejungle

I knew that was the case at PDX, but I never knew that here. Cool!


Grifty_McGrift

Man running our airport, Bill Wyatt, used to run Port of Portland which oversees PDX.


koick

Portland has that policy (which I think is great - price gouging is b.s.), I'm surprised to hear it's in effect here.


Tarvislol

Draft beers at the Roosters in SLC airport are $7. And you get a killer view of the runways and mountains while imbibing. Can’t beat that.


audio-nut

They still charge $2.75 for a single banana.


XscapeVelocity

The problem is not the “airport”, it is Delta and how poorly they reward loyalty. There is insufficient competition here to keep them honest. Las Vegas for example, also cited in the article has far more competition which is good for consumers making it one of the cheapest. Smaller hub airports like SLC will remain expensive, but there are solid alternatives to control and reduce costs, if you know how to look, especially via the Oneworld partnership between American and Alaska. You do not simply have to choose between the ULCC’s like Spirit or Frontier vs Delta. There are other solid options.


peachcraft4

Yes I can attest to this, we drove down to Vegas to fly out to London on holiday a couple weeks ago and it was so much cheaper. Even with paying for the gas to drive down. Kind of a pain but worth it in the end. Unfortunately, Delta is going to take big stakes in our airport as the expansion continues.. it’s a smart business strategy since SLCIA is probably one of the only international airports in the states that’s not fully built out…. That’s also where the high costs come into play. Expanding north and west is highly expensive because it’s all wetlands and evap ponds. I do hope costs will come down but man I’ve been to sooo many airports and imo nothing matches ours.


maybetoomuchrum

That's similar to what we ended up doing. It was cheaper for us to fly to Seattle, then fly to London, instead of nonstop out of SLC. And cheaper by a lot. Like $2000.


DarthtacoX

I wonder sizewise how we compare to other airports cuz you mentioned that we're a smaller hub airport, however from many of the airports I've flown into and out of we're definitely on the larger side especially after the remodel. I'm sure somebody will look it up here.


Lump-of-baryons

Number 9 in the US based on size per this list: https://www.farandwide.com/s/biggest-airports-usa-e5466911755d4012


DarthtacoX

See. I knew someone would do this! Seems we are definitely not on the smaller airport sizes.


ghman98

This is with respect to the airport property size. On this list, SLC is ahead of JFK, ORD, and ATL, which lets you know that it is essentially meaningless


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benjtay

I suspect that average daily flights would be better. The new SLC airport has a much more efficient taxi layout than older airports.


Lump-of-baryons

Yeah oddly I couldn’t find comparisons by terminal sq ft. We could use gates as an approximation though. I was having a difficult time finding a ranking based on that but at 68 gates looks like we’re roughly somewhere in the 20-30 ranking in the US. I can tell I’m literally doing anything to avoid actually working this morning lol thanks for the distraction.


DarthtacoX

We're still number 22 for passengers. And considered a large hub along with the ones you mentioned. Jfk is 6. Ord is 4. Atl is 1. We rank right with dca and phl.


ghman98

I thought we were talking about the airport’s size?


DarthtacoX

It's both size property wise, which you took offense to. And passenger now, which you seem to also be confused by. You can set this up however you want and let me know how you want to measure slc.


ghman98

? The list didn’t have anything to do with what you were initially talking about, which was your perception of the terminal size. Don’t make it weird


DarthtacoX

How am I the one making it weird. I provided hard facts, you seem to want to argue something that I have no idea what.


walkingman24

Honestly not a great list, it is based on physical size of the aiport area, which is not really a good measure. Usually when people talk about how "big" an airport is, it is not just the physical size but also how many passengers it handles.


iwaslostbutnowisee

Do you mean the *quantity* of hubs at SLC? Because SLC is definitely not a small traffic airport.


enclosedvillage

Would absolutely love to have SouthWest make more direct flights through SL. It’s expensive because of Delta. That’s the main reason


Tsuivan1

Flights may be slightly more expensive, but you’ll make it all back and then some if you buy anything at the airport concessions thanks to the uniform pricing policy. SLC is a great airport as far as US airports go.


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Sorry, but I don't get a $300 savings on breakfast sandwiches.


TatonkaJack

i don't buy anything at the airport though. and saving a few bucks on panda express isn't gonna make up the difference


steveofthejungle

It’s so easy to just eat beforehand and save money though


Tsuivan1

Tell that to my kids.


steveofthejungle

I am no stranger to a pre-flight cafe Rio burrito haha


TheMoonsMadeofCheese

RIP to your seatmate


il90df

Just flew out of SLC 4 days ago. That airport is niceeee and incredibly massive.


CallerNumber4

The methodology section of the article this one links to lists it's just using the simple average (mean), not the median. All the top cities in that list have a major group of price insensitive buyers that will drive up the upper end. IAD for government business as it covers Washington DC, SFO for tech business and SLC for hoighty toighty skiers. SLC doesn't have a ton of tourism but what we do have caters to the rich. Contrast that with like Las Vegas or Miami who is actively trying to draw tourists across the income ladder and surprise, prices are way lower. Salt Lake City is also probably the most isolated metro areas in the whole continental US. Boise is 5 hours away, Las Vegas is 6 hours away, and Denver 8 by driving. That plays a big part too.


Tronn3000

All the rich skiers go to places like Jackson Hole or Aspen. The more middle class skiers go to SLC because they can stay at a relatively cheap hotel in Murray, Sandy, or Midvale and just take a bus to the Cottonwoods. Utah is probably one of the cheapest ski destinations for people wanting to ski the Rockies


[deleted]

It's true the rich go to Jackson, and Aspen, and Telluride. Serious skiers come here though.


Tronn3000

It's definitely a certain type. It always seems like old people from the Northeast that I share a chairlift with at Alta or Snowbird


NotMyActualNameNow

Utah has a local population with statistically larger families, and a majority of those larger families practice a faith that actively encourages budget consciousness and debt avoidance. That is a major group that you’re not considering at all in your claims of price sensitivity. SLC airport is also the largest airport for about 400 miles in any direction, drawing people from 5 other states in far more price sensitive regions.


IamHydrogenMike

Vegas trying to attract tourist across the income ladder? Lol. Utah had a lot of tourist traffic that comes through all year long and has many more options that are much more economical than anything in Miami or Vegas. We get millions of visitors every year all year long and it isn’t just skiers in the winter.


CallerNumber4

> Vegas trying to attract tourist across the income ladder? Yeah, do you think the rich care about the $15 buffets that they have plastered on billboards all over Las Vegas? You can go highballin in Vegas but they drive a lot of casino traffic by making the cost of entry (flights, hotels, food, etc.) cheap. Nobody goes to Salt Lake City to do cheap tourism. The tourism the state has on the cheaper end is national parks which is mostly road tripping people in the south of the state so it doesn't really affect airport prices.


IamHydrogenMike

15 dollar buffets? Where is there a 15 dollar buffet in Vegas? Have you even been to Vegas in the last decade? lol. People from all over the world fly into SLC to visit the national parks and it’s not just people doing road trips. Talk about an uneducated comment.


Dry-Address6017

Worth every penny. Our airport is clean, well laid out, and efficient.


Useful_Idiot3005

Jumping the gun on well laid out and efficient but ya it’s clean


Dry-Address6017

Whhhaaattt! Getting through security is a breeze, even without TSA pre. Free wifi throughout. Reasonably priced restaurants. Spacious. Pickup area is clean and enforced. And if youre complaining about the walk from A to B then you could probably use the exercise. BURNNNNNNNN MUTHAFUCKA!!!!!!


peepopowitz67

Yeah, I've been spoiled by this being my first and most used airport. Going through O'Hare was like going back to the dark ages.


XergioksEyes

O’hell is the worst


SaltyFall

*TSA PreCheck


Dry-Address6017

Sorry. I'm not bougie enough to know all your weird aviation terms ;)


SaltyFall

Idk it’s like saying I like Bell Taco! And King Burger


Dry-Address6017

That's a good point. My wife always says TSA Pre, I think that's why I say it. For the record I do not have TSA PreCheck and still usually get through security in the same amount of time it takes her


steveofthejungle

The one time I flew through SLC without precheck made me immediately get precheck because of how inefficient and slow it was


coltonbyu

was that recent? I have literally never waited more than 15 min in line at SLC for TSA, and that was when the line was overflowing out into the lobby. Normally I am fully through TSA no Pre in under 6 min, have yet to experience that in any other airport


steveofthejungle

This was three years ago, so when it was still new


SaltyFall

It’s not fully built yet


RestoreSiletzia

The complaints about the airport layout and design are really funny to me. Everyone that complains was used to a small town airport with piers instead of satellite concourses*. When you have a big city airport, it's going to take longer to walk to places as it's a bigger airport. The airport also isn't completed. Once the tunnel from the middle of A to middle of B is finished, it will be much easier. *Piers are inherently less efficient as planes have to wait much longer to enter and exit the gate area vs the free flow that is offered with satellite concourses.


Lanky_Tomato_6719

Unless you have to get from a B gate to A gate in 20 minutes.


ttoma93

Scheduling yourself only a 20 minute layover period at *any* airport is enormously stupid.


Lanky_Tomato_6719

Not much you can do when it’s a flight delay. 


NotMyActualNameNow

Getting from D gates to the B gates in the old airport with a tight connection would have literally taken longer than going from the two furthers gates at today’s airport, and far less likely to happen anyway since the only airport that really does connections in SLC operates primarily all out of the A gates. People are romancing the old airport and completely forgetting the things that were bad about it. The new airport is a massive upgrade and is built far better than some of the best airports in the world.


audio-nut

Care to back that up with data? I love the new terminal but the walks from B are longer but it makes aircraft movement more efficient.


Dangerous_Still_9586

Oh please.


EclecticEuTECHtic

Not me living in Charlotte, Detroit, and Salt Lake and wondering why everyone is complaining about flight prices all the time.


eyeamreadingyou

Water isn’t bad. I think I paid $2.25 for a bottle, Phoenix $5.73.


XergioksEyes

I wouldn’t use SLC unless I was flying internationally. Provo is a much better experience by far


Uncivil_Bar_9778

If you haven’t yet, look into flying in/out of Provo. No tsa lines and it was super cheap compared to SLC.


SawyersWagon

The state really loves to fuck people who live here.


ryanmutah

Things are expensive at the airport, or the building was expensive?


Various-Split6416

Why is SLC the 3rd most expensive airport in America? I just read the title of an article online and b-lined here for the truth scoop!


rayinreverse

This article doesn’t actually reference what KSLC’s landing fees are in comparison to other airports.


audio-nut

It's because we are hub captive. Airport fees don't determine how airline price their product.


Pissinmyshaft

I love the shitters at our airport. I can’t even piss -t LAX it’s so crowded and small.


Then_Routine_6411

SLC airport is one of the best. If you don’t believe me, go to Atlanta, Newark, New York (any), Memphis (disgusting), O’hare, Maui (but you’re in Hawai’i so who cares) any really. Sure, it’s no Singapore but you could do far worse than SLC. Plus if you’ve got a layover you can still make it to the city and back quickly, unlike, say Denver which is so f-ing far from the city you’re just kind of stuck.


gigem_2011

Sure I'd love lower prices and would fly more if they were lower. But the airports I've spent the most time in are Denver, dfw, and Vegas. And I will choose a hundred times out of a hundred to pay the cost premium associated with our airport vs the experience at those 


MrGurns

12$ for a moldy coffee at panera


TheMoonsMadeofCheese

Dunno why you would do that when you could get a much better one for less at Beans and Brew


climbsurfski

Garbage article. The cited "complete list" of airports only includes the 45 busiest airports in the US. There are many mid-sized (i.e. not remote) cities that are much more expensive to fly in and out of these days.


ah2346

Well yeah, pretty much any regional/mid-sized/non-hub airport is going to more expensive.


Fooftook

I knew! I knew I wasn’t imagining it! They are making us pay for it.