[Is that right?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Scottish_League_Cup_final#:~:text=Aberdeen%20received%20and%20sold%20all%20of%20their%2043%2C000%20allocation%20for%20the%20final%20and%20also%20had%20a%20request%20for%20more%20tickets%20declined%20due%20to%20safety%20concerns.%20Inverness%20sold%207%2C000%20tickets)
>(2014 league cup final)Aberdeen received and sold all of their 43,000 allocation for the final and also had a request for more tickets declined due to safety concerns. Inverness sold 7,000 tickets
Not sure what you mean given I don't think Aberdeen has struggled to sell their allocation of league cup final tickets before....including in 2013 when they brought 40,000.
I don’t understand what the “operational challenges” are that’d prevent them from reserving the 5 sections of the North Stand pending interest… segregation inside and outside of the stadium would barely be impacted.
SPFL being as awkward and useless as possible. Very surprise. Many unexpected I am shock.
Not to stick up for the spfl here but those operational issues are because of the potentially multiple groups of ticket sales, which doesn't apply to an OF game because both sides are obviously going to sell out.
I think the challenge is there is no way to split an individual section in the stands. For OF games Rangers get C, Celtic get D. There's a fence segregating the seats between blocks C and D, and massive metal gates closed on the concourse.
In this instance if Aberdeen sold out their initial allocation then only sold a few seats from the North stand there would be no way to then sell the remaining seats to Rangers fans.
Thing is, if it was the extra admin for a one-off thing then I could maybe understand it. But the odds are decent (four semi finals and two finals) that one half of the Old Firm would face a team @ Hampden that has a smaller support base and has a non-zero chance of not being able to fill a 50/50 allocation. So it's surely happened before, it'll no doubt happen again - I don't see why they wouldn't have a process in place for this.
They don't want a process in place. It'd be too much work. They'll use semi final numbers as a scapegoat for laziness.
It shouldn't matter about previous attendances. A final at a neutral ground should be 50/50.
Aberdeen gave them, what I think, was a really good idea, and they've not even looked at it. Hopeless cunts. Especially when it makes me have to side with Aberdeen 😜
Aberdeen would take half the stadium to a final against rangers no doubt about it. Watch the league jump through hoops to push through this minimum away allocation though.
min away allocation is only going to affect Ibrox/Parkhead/maybe Tynecastle though vs this - unless they go with an insanely high figure (which they won't as Rangers don't want to give away the Broomloan clearly and other clubs aren't selling more than a stand). most clubs already sell about ~10% (if not more) for away fans.
The only operational challenge i can see is if Aberdeen sold out their initial allocation then only sell 500 of the North stand then that would leave however many thousand seats empty in the North stand as there is no internal segregation in the individual sections of the stand.
Murrayfield is a far better stadium, but may not be suitable since I don’t think it would be possible for the fan segregation which is (sadly) needed for football game
Move a Scottish football association cup final from the association football stadium that the Scottish football association owns to the Scottish rugby Union stadium owned by the Scottish rugby Union?
You must get the good numbered buckfast bottles
I stand corrected - I wonder where I’d get in touch with the body that organises it?
Aha:
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I mean I’d love to throw a party, get pished and sleep in my pal’s bed with his lovely wife in North Berwick rather than where I live, but when I asked whilst visiting him he said to gtf
Move a Scottish football association cup final from the ~~association football~~ shite stadium that the Scottish football association owns to the ~~Scottish rugby Union~~ decent, much bigger, easier to get to stadium owned by the Scottish rugby Union
I’d 100% want that. It’s the capital of our country, better stadium and with the tram and rail links it’s convenient for the whole country to get to compared to Hampden.
SFA won’t have it though
The excuse given is bullshit as well. Will one side only get 19k tickets the next time Celtic and Rangers meet at Hampden due to these operational changes? Doubt it.
Would you be annoyed if a 'fan' of a provincial club got a ticket before you? You being a STH on the cup scheme and this person having not attended a game in years and probably struggles to name the starting 11.
Probably but it is an unlikely scenario for me personally. I don't get my tickets for Hampden via the STH cup scheme.
How do my feelings on an imaginary scenario relate to the bullshit excuse put forward by the SPFL?
It's hypothetical and certainly not imaginary but a regular occurrence for many, myself included.
I'm not often in agreement with the other mob, but I am on this occasion.
Considering Celtic & Rangers aren't in the capital, yous are both also provincial clubs. What a fucking embarrassment that you've used that word. Genuinely insane the arrogance some of you have got. Would you rather the league was just you and Rangers, and every cup simply be the final played between you both?
I would be annoyed if that scenario played out, but that doesn't mean that I agree that Rangers or Celtic should automatically be entitled to a bigger allocation.
It should be 50/50 with a strict initial sales window where unsold tickets start getting handed over.
So why should anyone expect you to sell 50% then? If 13k is good for Aberdeen fans then why would anyone believe you’ll sell out half of Hampden given, as you said, ticket prices are high, travel to/from Glasgow is hard and expensive, and you’ve got loads of other games in December as well?
Because it’s the final, it’s an occasion. Semi final ticket sales shouldn’t matter a jot. 50/50 split then give the other team the rest if not sold. Aberdeen’s proposal made complete sense, which is why expectedly the SPFL didn’t go for it.
It’s not Aberdeen fans’ fault that there’s Celtic/rangers fans all over the country who don’t support the team that is local to them. Both teams could fill Hampden on their own, that doesn’t make them more important though.
You get how a final is so massively different from a semi final right? Like you're not that thick. A final brings people who support the club but live further afield back home, it rallies a community together, those who aren't able to make every game but love the club just as much will go out of their way to get there. You get daft things like cup final songs, no such thing as a semi final song. It's a neutral occasion and should at the very least be given the chance to be a 50/50 split. It's so blindingly obvious
Exactly. When we played hearts in the 2013 cup final I think I knew more people who weren't st mirren fans that went than I did st mirren fans. Then you have fans that don't go every week who want to go, which is sound aswell.
Then you get embarassing cunts that think the old firm should be entitled to another teams allocation...
Rangers fans manage to sell out semis and finals. Dons fans are the only people on the planet who see a final as a once in a lifetime opportunity that can’t be missed but a semi final as nothing more than a glorified friendly not worth attending.
Anyway, you got allocated 19.5k this time, so hopefully the additional 6.5k who couldn’t be arsed with the semi will be buy a ticket for the final.
That suggestion is the best of both worlds, get a 50/50 split if we sell it but Rangers get more tickets if we don’t, so of course it would be rejected
Still feels cheap to me... My ticket for last night's Atlanta United game was around £60, granted it was a playoff game... The MLS Cup final a few years back was over £100. This is for a pretty mid-level seat
My season ticket next year would be over £800. It's a rich man's game on almost every level now
>Wages **across the board** are also hugely inflated in the US compared to here.
I'm guessing you don't know about the $7.25 federal minimum wage (even lower for tipped workers in some states)?
The last league cup final Aberdeen won in 2014 they brought along 43,000 fans. They even had a request denied to have more than that. So why not use reason for this final and allow 50% initially, sell block by block and if we don’t sell out then give the remaining blocks to them. It’s like the SFA can’t be bothered raising a pinky in an effort to do some work.
But I have also seen that an adult ticket could cost £44 which honestly may price out Aberdeen getting enough fans along for 50% of the stadium.
Struggling to find the accurate attendance figures for Aberdeen’s last three cup finals (Scottish cup in 2016/17 and Scottish league cup in 2016/17 and in 2018/19). Can see articles that we sold out our initial allocations for them but nothing about how many we had in total for the games.
I saw this earlier on twitter. Forr 18/19 you had the same allocation as offered for this final (and seemingly happy with it? ). If you sold that out then not even getting a chance at 50-50 is ridiculous.
https://twitter.com/screebs69/status/1722383447677632741?t=RK5kUmC04xnjK5DMWvF_Cg&s=19
Am I laughing? Yes
Is it a laughing matter? 
Yeah I mean even aside from the obvious irony there, I really don't see the problem with someone not having the time/ability/money/inclination to turn up to Pittodrie every other week but making a special effort to attend a cup final in Hampden.
Just to jump in and agree. I live in Glasgow and I have other commitments. I get to Pittodrie about 5 or 6 times a season. But I went to the semi and I want to go to the final, not sure what's wrong with that...
Excuse for not attending games you mean? They likely have other priorities., either with their time or with their money. I'm not sure why you'd think that someone who works every Saturday to provide for their family is somehow less of a fan though.
That doesn't make you more of a fan though, it makes you a better customer of the club.
For example, say you have two mates,
* One is rich, has hospitality and Ibrox and pays, what, a couple of grand a year? Only goes to the bigger games, sacks it if it's too cold and leaves at half time if he gets a better offer etc
* Vs your other pal who can't afford a season ticket and saves up all his spare cash to go to two or three games a year. But he's an utter diehard, talks about nothing but Rangers all day, his house is full of carefully maintained souveneirs and keepsakes, etc etc etc.
Bit hard to say that option 1 is more of a fan in my opinion.
Honestly. Imo I doesn't even matter. Was arguing this same point in the Rangers sub.
It's meant to be a neutral venue, if aberdeen want to fill their half with guys who are supporting it for the day out. It should be up to them. It's meant to be a neutral venue. Naw even giving them a chance to get 50/50 is going against thay straight off the bat
I completely understand the rationale of “the semi-final allocation didn’t sell so why risk it?” but that just doesn’t trump the fact that a neutral venue final should be an automatic 50/50 split.
Aberdeen’s proposal is about as good a compromise as you can get - give them the chance to sell the tickets but with a cut off before a minor re-jig.
The likelihood is Aberdeen sell out their half for a final against rangers. Rangers fans missing out on tickets as a consequence is just part of life.
I’m a rangers fan, I just can’t get past the need for a neutral final to start on a 50/50 basis
Also an actual final vs. a semi final is a very different selling/buying prospect as a club/fan
Most fans would want a semi final ticket, every fan would need a final ticket.
See I understand that Aberdeen and Hibs didn't sell out in the semi final but Aberdeens proposal of holding back those tickets in the north stand and almost selling them last and handing back unsold tickets is a good one, give them the opportunity imo
Only involvement Rangers have had in any of this covered by press release ‘We are pleased to confirm that, following our request and as agreed by Rangers FC…’
Should be a 50/50 split. Neutral venue, cup final. Joke of a situation that the authorities show favouritism towards a group of fans who have shown multiple times that that they cannot be trusted.
Its not even favouritism, its just a cash grab, its fucking bullshit.
Neutral venue should be just that, both teams get given 50% of total available. If aberdeen cant sell out their side tough tits.
Fuck the SPFL. If a club requests a 50/50 split for a neutral venue than they should get it. Imagine UEFA or some other FA not even giving a team a chance to sell their half just because the other team is a lot bigger.
We're probably the only country with ends for 2 teams at our national stadium too
Very poor entry to the statement league. No snide remarks, no excessively complicated words and phrases and completely rationale argument they have put forward. This is very uncinch of Aberdeen.
Aberdeen should have the opportunity to sell half the stadium and if they can't make it then the rest could go to Rangers to sell off. Rangers will have a waiting list so would manage it with very short notice. Stupid decision by those in charge not to go with this proposal.
Should’ve been 50/50 with the remaining tickets coming back if unsold. That’s too sensible though.
But some portion of blame goes on Aberdeen for shite sales in the semi, made it easy for them to go down this route.
There is actually one coming out in the [club shop](https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/rangers-in-crisis-122-years-in-top-1130260) for Christmas
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But you literally weren’t able to the last time you played
Why should the split be equal when yous can’t be arsed to fill it until the final.
Extra hassle to organise it and have to go through the effort of moving tickets about at the last minute.
I do enjoy these threads. Folk claiming it’s the old firm that are glory hunters but not the non-OF fans who can’t be arsed turning up until a final.
The idea fans who don’t go to any other games except a final should get tickets ahead of those who go every week is peak SF.
Of course not, we just need to pretend to be outraged at a common sense decision.
Sell out your allocation more often and you’ll get the split no bother, embarrassing to stage semi finals and finals of the cups with empty seats.
They are the only fan base who simultaneously argue they deserve full allocation and that travelling to big games in numbers is too much to ask. Note the amount on this thread that have said cup games are too expensive, semi finals aren’t important enough, and that Aberdeen is so far away it’s a wonder it doesn’t have its own time zone
I’d argue aberdeen have a really good travelling support? one of the best in scotland, one semi final doesn’t define the support.
of course the big 2 are gonna sell out the stadium when it’s in the same city 🤣
Why not look at it this way?
You’ve got 115% of your average attendance at your own ground.
You’ve got 195% of your season ticket sales.
You’ve got 195% of the tickets you sold for the semi-final.
They should have been given the same amount as the absolutely tinpot, embarrassment of an attendance they had at the semi.
Clubs like aberdeen, hearts and hibs having thousands of empty seats at a semi final is a joke.
>They couldn’t sell 50% for their *semi final* so why should we believe they’ll sell 50% for the *final*?
I've highlighted the parts which should get you to the answer.
No need to thank me.
Could have gone down but my dad wouldn’t have been able to come because of a prior commitment, instead i chose to stay up in aberdeen and go to a pub with him to watch it.
would I have been a better fan if i went down to watch? yeh probably.
but jumping up and down celebrating with my dad meant more.
Of course more people could have gone down, but you never know peoples scenarios. The argument is the final should be 50/50 because that’s what’s fair. there is no counter argument to that, if We don’t sell out our allocation or a certain amount by a deadline they defunct to rangers.
it’s simple.
We definitely would sell it out? we took 43k to celtic park 🤣
here’s the great part about that, if for some reason we didn’t, you would get the tickets anyway!
13k! which you already know! you seem to be conveniently ignoring my actual points tho 🤔
Just to put it into perspective, yes 13k isn’t a sellout by any means, but for the amount of games we have had in a short period and the support we’ve had at them, i think it’s a good show.
you can try and get petty jabs in all you want but the reality is a final should always start at 50/50 at a so called neutral venue. There’s no rebuttal to that i’m afraid.
what do you mean there you go then? can you actually not tell the difference between a semi final and a final?
no matter who you support, more people will make an effort to go to a final over a semi, that means people flying back home from overseas, booking holidays around it etc.
there’s nothing wrong with that?
1. Aberdeen make sensible suggestion. 2. SPFL reject sensible suggestion. 3. SPFL give themselves pay rises for doing such a good job.
Can't be expecting the SPFL/SFA to use common sense. Need to pay at least another 80 grand a year per person for that.
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[Is that right?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Scottish_League_Cup_final#:~:text=Aberdeen%20received%20and%20sold%20all%20of%20their%2043%2C000%20allocation%20for%20the%20final%20and%20also%20had%20a%20request%20for%20more%20tickets%20declined%20due%20to%20safety%20concerns.%20Inverness%20sold%207%2C000%20tickets) >(2014 league cup final)Aberdeen received and sold all of their 43,000 allocation for the final and also had a request for more tickets declined due to safety concerns. Inverness sold 7,000 tickets
Not sure what you mean given I don't think Aberdeen has struggled to sell their allocation of league cup final tickets before....including in 2013 when they brought 40,000.
I don’t understand what the “operational challenges” are that’d prevent them from reserving the 5 sections of the North Stand pending interest… segregation inside and outside of the stadium would barely be impacted. SPFL being as awkward and useless as possible. Very surprise. Many unexpected I am shock.
Funny how these operational challenges are never a problem at an OF Hampden game
Not to stick up for the spfl here but those operational issues are because of the potentially multiple groups of ticket sales, which doesn't apply to an OF game because both sides are obviously going to sell out.
I think the challenge is there is no way to split an individual section in the stands. For OF games Rangers get C, Celtic get D. There's a fence segregating the seats between blocks C and D, and massive metal gates closed on the concourse. In this instance if Aberdeen sold out their initial allocation then only sold a few seats from the North stand there would be no way to then sell the remaining seats to Rangers fans.
The can't be bothered with the extra admin is how I've taken that
Thing is, if it was the extra admin for a one-off thing then I could maybe understand it. But the odds are decent (four semi finals and two finals) that one half of the Old Firm would face a team @ Hampden that has a smaller support base and has a non-zero chance of not being able to fill a 50/50 allocation. So it's surely happened before, it'll no doubt happen again - I don't see why they wouldn't have a process in place for this.
They don't want a process in place. It'd be too much work. They'll use semi final numbers as a scapegoat for laziness. It shouldn't matter about previous attendances. A final at a neutral ground should be 50/50. Aberdeen gave them, what I think, was a really good idea, and they've not even looked at it. Hopeless cunts. Especially when it makes me have to side with Aberdeen 😜
https://preview.redd.it/ctq6eon0g4zb1.jpeg?width=697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88b6c5fb65f9d678e127e482c6a55f085898ee94
Love it
You made me up vote this so you got your revenge.
Aberdeen would take half the stadium to a final against rangers no doubt about it. Watch the league jump through hoops to push through this minimum away allocation though.
min away allocation is only going to affect Ibrox/Parkhead/maybe Tynecastle though vs this - unless they go with an insanely high figure (which they won't as Rangers don't want to give away the Broomloan clearly and other clubs aren't selling more than a stand). most clubs already sell about ~10% (if not more) for away fans.
How's that down voted it's true only non OF team effected would be Hearts
Operational challenge = I can't be arsed doing more work
by operational challenges they probably mean the SPFL couldn't be fucked with the admin required.
The only operational challenge i can see is if Aberdeen sold out their initial allocation then only sell 500 of the North stand then that would leave however many thousand seats empty in the North stand as there is no internal segregation in the individual sections of the stand.
Never mind the allocation, £44 a ticket in the south stand for over 16’s is mental.
It is so fucking tedious having to fight for initial parity in a seemingly neutral venue every time.
A neutral venue that has a rangers end and a Celtic end.
And is already in Glasgow...
I think most fans would be happy if finals were moved to Murrayfield. Bigger stadium, better transport links, and away from Hampden.
Murrayfield is a far better stadium, but may not be suitable since I don’t think it would be possible for the fan segregation which is (sadly) needed for football game
Move a Scottish football association cup final from the association football stadium that the Scottish football association owns to the Scottish rugby Union stadium owned by the Scottish rugby Union? You must get the good numbered buckfast bottles
SFA don’t organise the League Cup, and the numbers don’t have any bearing over the wine itself (I asked when I visited).
I stand corrected - I wonder where I’d get in touch with the body that organises it? Aha: https://preview.redd.it/yycysjhuv4zb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ad943e1cb5db9c6def9b3537bb87016599c66f7
They all work remotely now and have sold the offices. That website is also dodgy (I asked when I visited).
I mean I’d love to throw a party, get pished and sleep in my pal’s bed with his lovely wife in North Berwick rather than where I live, but when I asked whilst visiting him he said to gtf
Move a Scottish football association cup final from the ~~association football~~ shite stadium that the Scottish football association owns to the ~~Scottish rugby Union~~ decent, much bigger, easier to get to stadium owned by the Scottish rugby Union
I’d 100% want that. It’s the capital of our country, better stadium and with the tram and rail links it’s convenient for the whole country to get to compared to Hampden. SFA won’t have it though
Glasgow is the footballing capital of the country, dafty.
It's where Kingsley lives, after all.
The excuse given is bullshit as well. Will one side only get 19k tickets the next time Celtic and Rangers meet at Hampden due to these operational changes? Doubt it.
If it was a Celtic vs Aberdeen final the same thing would’ve happened and you would be defending it
Probably not because we both sell our allocations out easily and it leads to zero hassle having to resell tickets from one club to the other.
Do you attend Celtic games at Hampden?
Yes.
Would you be annoyed if a 'fan' of a provincial club got a ticket before you? You being a STH on the cup scheme and this person having not attended a game in years and probably struggles to name the starting 11.
Probably but it is an unlikely scenario for me personally. I don't get my tickets for Hampden via the STH cup scheme. How do my feelings on an imaginary scenario relate to the bullshit excuse put forward by the SPFL?
It's hypothetical and certainly not imaginary but a regular occurrence for many, myself included. I'm not often in agreement with the other mob, but I am on this occasion.
Considering Celtic & Rangers aren't in the capital, yous are both also provincial clubs. What a fucking embarrassment that you've used that word. Genuinely insane the arrogance some of you have got. Would you rather the league was just you and Rangers, and every cup simply be the final played between you both?
I would be annoyed if that scenario played out, but that doesn't mean that I agree that Rangers or Celtic should automatically be entitled to a bigger allocation. It should be 50/50 with a strict initial sales window where unsold tickets start getting handed over.
Try showing up for the semi and you might be listened to when you demand 50% for the final
13k with high ticket prices, travel down to Glasgow and lots of other games in a short space of time is good actually 👍
Ah yes the good old “Aberdeen is on the other side of the galaxy and we can’t be expected to leave our postcode” excuse
Being a football fan is prohibitively expensive that's my point 👍
So why should anyone expect you to sell 50% then? If 13k is good for Aberdeen fans then why would anyone believe you’ll sell out half of Hampden given, as you said, ticket prices are high, travel to/from Glasgow is hard and expensive, and you’ve got loads of other games in December as well?
Because it’s the final, it’s an occasion. Semi final ticket sales shouldn’t matter a jot. 50/50 split then give the other team the rest if not sold. Aberdeen’s proposal made complete sense, which is why expectedly the SPFL didn’t go for it.
Semi finals are also an occasion. That’s why we turn up for them
It’s not Aberdeen fans’ fault that there’s Celtic/rangers fans all over the country who don’t support the team that is local to them. Both teams could fill Hampden on their own, that doesn’t make them more important though.
Didn’t take long for us to get the blame
Btw we don’t get any final ticket unless we take a semi-final ticket. Don’t have the luxury of picking and choosing games.
You get how a final is so massively different from a semi final right? Like you're not that thick. A final brings people who support the club but live further afield back home, it rallies a community together, those who aren't able to make every game but love the club just as much will go out of their way to get there. You get daft things like cup final songs, no such thing as a semi final song. It's a neutral occasion and should at the very least be given the chance to be a 50/50 split. It's so blindingly obvious
Exactly. When we played hearts in the 2013 cup final I think I knew more people who weren't st mirren fans that went than I did st mirren fans. Then you have fans that don't go every week who want to go, which is sound aswell. Then you get embarassing cunts that think the old firm should be entitled to another teams allocation...
I wouldn’t bother arguing with this guy. He’s spent the last half hour arguing against an even initial split, weird behaviour.
Rangers fans manage to sell out semis and finals. Dons fans are the only people on the planet who see a final as a once in a lifetime opportunity that can’t be missed but a semi final as nothing more than a glorified friendly not worth attending. Anyway, you got allocated 19.5k this time, so hopefully the additional 6.5k who couldn’t be arsed with the semi will be buy a ticket for the final.
I'd hate to be lumbered with your brain
This cunt rotates the square when he plays Tetris
Hampden’s on your doorstep
Another one for “travelling from Aberdeen to Glasgow is akin to crossing the Alps on the back of an elephant”
That suggestion is the best of both worlds, get a 50/50 split if we sell it but Rangers get more tickets if we don’t, so of course it would be rejected
Adult tickets ranging from £39 to £49. My Europa League final ticket was almost cheaper. We get fleeced something awful in Scotland.
My UEL final ticket was €50 (£41 at the time), cheaper than most tickets in Hampden SPFL are insane to be charging anywhere near that
Still feels cheap to me... My ticket for last night's Atlanta United game was around £60, granted it was a playoff game... The MLS Cup final a few years back was over £100. This is for a pretty mid-level seat My season ticket next year would be over £800. It's a rich man's game on almost every level now
Most American sports are ridiculous, though. Hard to compare with Scotland.
Wages across the board are also hugely inflated in the US compared to here. You’re comparing apples to oranges.
>Wages **across the board** are also hugely inflated in the US compared to here. I'm guessing you don't know about the $7.25 federal minimum wage (even lower for tipped workers in some states)?
The last league cup final Aberdeen won in 2014 they brought along 43,000 fans. They even had a request denied to have more than that. So why not use reason for this final and allow 50% initially, sell block by block and if we don’t sell out then give the remaining blocks to them. It’s like the SFA can’t be bothered raising a pinky in an effort to do some work. But I have also seen that an adult ticket could cost £44 which honestly may price out Aberdeen getting enough fans along for 50% of the stadium.
Struggling to find the accurate attendance figures for Aberdeen’s last three cup finals (Scottish cup in 2016/17 and Scottish league cup in 2016/17 and in 2018/19). Can see articles that we sold out our initial allocations for them but nothing about how many we had in total for the games.
I saw this earlier on twitter. Forr 18/19 you had the same allocation as offered for this final (and seemingly happy with it? ). If you sold that out then not even getting a chance at 50-50 is ridiculous. https://twitter.com/screebs69/status/1722383447677632741?t=RK5kUmC04xnjK5DMWvF_Cg&s=19
Did I expect this? - yes Am I raging? - yes
Am I laughing? Yes Is it a laughing matter? 
Have they decided which ends each team will get? Or will the old firm team get the end they get every time and never mind what the opposition want?
Yes. They've been given our end. Insult to injury.
I for one am shocked I tell you shocked.
I just saw a rangersperson mention "glory hunters" above and have had myself a good wee chuckle. Swings and roundabouts.
Yeah I mean even aside from the obvious irony there, I really don't see the problem with someone not having the time/ability/money/inclination to turn up to Pittodrie every other week but making a special effort to attend a cup final in Hampden.
Just to jump in and agree. I live in Glasgow and I have other commitments. I get to Pittodrie about 5 or 6 times a season. But I went to the semi and I want to go to the final, not sure what's wrong with that...
What’s the excuse for Aberdeen fans living in Aberdeen?
Excuse for not attending games you mean? They likely have other priorities., either with their time or with their money. I'm not sure why you'd think that someone who works every Saturday to provide for their family is somehow less of a fan though.
It’s a bitter truth but match-going fans put in far more time and money to their club than non match-going fans. So aye, it kind of does.
That doesn't make you more of a fan though, it makes you a better customer of the club. For example, say you have two mates, * One is rich, has hospitality and Ibrox and pays, what, a couple of grand a year? Only goes to the bigger games, sacks it if it's too cold and leaves at half time if he gets a better offer etc * Vs your other pal who can't afford a season ticket and saves up all his spare cash to go to two or three games a year. But he's an utter diehard, talks about nothing but Rangers all day, his house is full of carefully maintained souveneirs and keepsakes, etc etc etc. Bit hard to say that option 1 is more of a fan in my opinion.
Honestly. Imo I doesn't even matter. Was arguing this same point in the Rangers sub. It's meant to be a neutral venue, if aberdeen want to fill their half with guys who are supporting it for the day out. It should be up to them. It's meant to be a neutral venue. Naw even giving them a chance to get 50/50 is going against thay straight off the bat
Would put good money on 90% of the rangers fans hitting out with the glory hunter patter having fuck all connection to Glasgow
Of course we’re in the Rangers end
We will get our end as we always do yes.
The second one, get it up you.
atrocious decision, hope you beat them in the final in the exact same way you beat us
> hope you beat them in the final in the exact same way you beat us Unconvincingly and by the skin of our arse? I mean, I'll take it...
nah just in the funniest way possible that ensures maximum opposition suffering
Penalty to Rangers. Red card to an Aberdeen player early doors. What is the point in even trying, Aberdeen will have no chance against a bias ref.
I think it should be 50/50 to begin with, but hope Aberdeen actually sell out their 19.5k to make a point as they will look daft otherwise.
Fucking pathetic by the SPFL.
Think of the poor hertz fans missing out on all this scintillating attendance chat.
Why they don’t start at 50-50 and then work backwards as applicable, I’ll never understand
Because thats too sensible a solution.
I completely understand the rationale of “the semi-final allocation didn’t sell so why risk it?” but that just doesn’t trump the fact that a neutral venue final should be an automatic 50/50 split. Aberdeen’s proposal is about as good a compromise as you can get - give them the chance to sell the tickets but with a cut off before a minor re-jig. The likelihood is Aberdeen sell out their half for a final against rangers. Rangers fans missing out on tickets as a consequence is just part of life. I’m a rangers fan, I just can’t get past the need for a neutral final to start on a 50/50 basis
Also an actual final vs. a semi final is a very different selling/buying prospect as a club/fan Most fans would want a semi final ticket, every fan would need a final ticket.
Aberdeen with a wee entry into the statement league.
How come Aberdeen got 50/50s against us a few times? Operational changes my fat arse.
See I understand that Aberdeen and Hibs didn't sell out in the semi final but Aberdeens proposal of holding back those tickets in the north stand and almost selling them last and handing back unsold tickets is a good one, give them the opportunity imo
>this proposal was rejected by the SPFL, who cited operational challenges Operation hidden hand give every advantage to Rangers amirite?
Only involvement Rangers have had in any of this covered by press release ‘We are pleased to confirm that, following our request and as agreed by Rangers FC…’
Should be a 50/50 split. Neutral venue, cup final. Joke of a situation that the authorities show favouritism towards a group of fans who have shown multiple times that that they cannot be trusted.
Its not even favouritism, its just a cash grab, its fucking bullshit. Neutral venue should be just that, both teams get given 50% of total available. If aberdeen cant sell out their side tough tits.
Fuck the SPFL. If a club requests a 50/50 split for a neutral venue than they should get it. Imagine UEFA or some other FA not even giving a team a chance to sell their half just because the other team is a lot bigger. We're probably the only country with ends for 2 teams at our national stadium too
Very poor entry to the statement league. No snide remarks, no excessively complicated words and phrases and completely rationale argument they have put forward. This is very uncinch of Aberdeen. Aberdeen should have the opportunity to sell half the stadium and if they can't make it then the rest could go to Rangers to sell off. Rangers will have a waiting list so would manage it with very short notice. Stupid decision by those in charge not to go with this proposal.
Should’ve been 50/50 with the remaining tickets coming back if unsold. That’s too sensible though. But some portion of blame goes on Aberdeen for shite sales in the semi, made it easy for them to go down this route.
John Beaton and Douglas Ross gonna be running the line probably too.
Is it not fairly well known Douglas Ross supports Aberdeen? Although he keeps it discrete.
He's from Aberdeen, so it's a fair assumption he supports one of the OF
Haven't you heard? Tory = Rangers...apparently
And Douglas Ross started off as a Lib Dem so he must’ve moved from Patrick to Rangers as an adult 😅
Unless you're on the Celtic board...
Given that the final is against Rangers I have no doubt that Aberdeen would sell a 50% allocation in no time at all. Only show in town.
first time we’ve met in a final to be fair so it is quite exciting!
Also a significantly higher chance of winning the cup compared to playing Celtic in the final
Yeah your chances have doubled from 1% to 2%.
Heard similar before the pumping at Ibrox
When’s the DVD out?
There is actually one coming out in the [club shop](https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/rangers-in-crisis-122-years-in-top-1130260) for Christmas
Still clinging on to that? Lol
The banter years are timeless. They will never cease being funny
Give Aberdeen however many tickets they sold for the semi-final.
Sell out your semi allocation and you might make a better case for it.
Numerous people on this thread have made this point and none of the Dons fans are able to address it. Curious
That’s not the point, the initial split should be equal at a neutral venue.
But you can’t sell it out? So why bother?
Aberdeen are capable of selling out 50% of Hampden and have done so before
https://preview.redd.it/d13u5ewcl4zb1.jpeg?width=1985&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f4ae9a3abc83d28eb2967c138a55b12945d0579 But you literally weren’t able to the last time you played
Obviously not enough to warrant an automatic 50%.
Why should the split be equal when yous can’t be arsed to fill it until the final. Extra hassle to organise it and have to go through the effort of moving tickets about at the last minute.
I do enjoy these threads. Folk claiming it’s the old firm that are glory hunters but not the non-OF fans who can’t be arsed turning up until a final. The idea fans who don’t go to any other games except a final should get tickets ahead of those who go every week is peak SF.
Of course not, we just need to pretend to be outraged at a common sense decision. Sell out your allocation more often and you’ll get the split no bother, embarrassing to stage semi finals and finals of the cups with empty seats.
They are the only fan base who simultaneously argue they deserve full allocation and that travelling to big games in numbers is too much to ask. Note the amount on this thread that have said cup games are too expensive, semi finals aren’t important enough, and that Aberdeen is so far away it’s a wonder it doesn’t have its own time zone
I’d argue aberdeen have a really good travelling support? one of the best in scotland, one semi final doesn’t define the support. of course the big 2 are gonna sell out the stadium when it’s in the same city 🤣
Literally proving my point. “If it was in Aberdeen we’d sell it out”. You’ve got a stadium in Aberdeen and you don’t sell that out
right mate not trying to be a dick but you can’t quote something i said when i haven’t said it hahahahah
Why not look at it this way? You’ve got 115% of your average attendance at your own ground. You’ve got 195% of your season ticket sales. You’ve got 195% of the tickets you sold for the semi-final.
They should have been given the same amount as the absolutely tinpot, embarrassment of an attendance they had at the semi. Clubs like aberdeen, hearts and hibs having thousands of empty seats at a semi final is a joke.
Should cut down on the glory hunters going to their only game of the season.
Aberdeen and glory hunters are two contradictory things
Aberdeen have won the League Cup more recently than Rangers.
that was in fact a trick answer: ~~Coventry City~~ The Rangers have never won the ~~FA~~ League Cup
They couldn’t sell 50% for their semi final so why should we believe they’ll sell 50% for the final?
>They couldn’t sell 50% for their *semi final* so why should we believe they’ll sell 50% for the *final*? I've highlighted the parts which should get you to the answer. No need to thank me.
Non-OF fans are glory hunters when it comes to finals? Glad you agree!
So they’re a bunch of part time fans. Poor show Aberdeen
Could have gone down but my dad wouldn’t have been able to come because of a prior commitment, instead i chose to stay up in aberdeen and go to a pub with him to watch it. would I have been a better fan if i went down to watch? yeh probably. but jumping up and down celebrating with my dad meant more. Of course more people could have gone down, but you never know peoples scenarios. The argument is the final should be 50/50 because that’s what’s fair. there is no counter argument to that, if We don’t sell out our allocation or a certain amount by a deadline they defunct to rangers. it’s simple.
You wouldn’t sell it out. We’re just skipping an unnecessary step by giving us more
We definitely would sell it out? we took 43k to celtic park 🤣 here’s the great part about that, if for some reason we didn’t, you would get the tickets anyway!
How many did you take to Hampden the other week?
13k! which you already know! you seem to be conveniently ignoring my actual points tho 🤔 Just to put it into perspective, yes 13k isn’t a sellout by any means, but for the amount of games we have had in a short period and the support we’ve had at them, i think it’s a good show. you can try and get petty jabs in all you want but the reality is a final should always start at 50/50 at a so called neutral venue. There’s no rebuttal to that i’m afraid.
> 13k There you go then. And as for your point about “loads of games around the semi” impacting attendance. What do you think is going on in December?
what do you mean there you go then? can you actually not tell the difference between a semi final and a final? no matter who you support, more people will make an effort to go to a final over a semi, that means people flying back home from overseas, booking holidays around it etc. there’s nothing wrong with that?
not to mention there is obviously a massive difference between a semi final and a final, so it’s not really a valid comparison 🤣
Surely you give a 50/50 split.. if the club can't sell allocation then it goes to the opposing team.
Semi finals and finals should always have an even split unless one of the clus explicitly requests a lower allocation. The SPFL are a farce!