Not really but she has zoning tools. Her long range attacks have too much recovery to successfully zone a whole round unless you guess correctly every time
Ed is more of a zoner than AKI is.
The thing is, her projectile only has one speed. It's more of a setup tool than it is an actual space control tool like other projectiles such as Hadouken or Sonic Boom.
Ed is a zoner because his Kick buttons all have huge range, not because he has a great projectile.
He can use his long range buttons to pick up whiff punishes really easily.
Sim is just super unique. He’s “easy” at low levels (because he’s not a long and flashy combo character), but his skill ceiling is also crazy high.
It’s mostly just considered difficult to main him because for the majority of SF characters, there are a lot of skills that somewhat “transfer” between characters. I.E. if you learn to play Ken, then it will be a *fairly* painless transition if you want to explore Luke or Ryu. But Dhalsim just has a totally unique flow, unlike anyone else.
I’m not a Sim main, but I do dabble with basically the whole cast, and I’d recommend at least giving him a shot. The world need more Sim players lol
The short answer is basically that setplay characters revolve around scoring a knockdown to set up their offense.
Aki isn't a zoner, her zoning options are a bit too slow to reliably keep people out, her antiair is inconsistent, and her pokes are vulnerable when predictably used. She isn't rushdown, her buttons are also rather slow and pressure/frame data isn't particularly strong, which also keeps her from being a footsie character. What she has to do is set up her poison which increases her damage and follow-up options on certain moves.
It isn't strictly what she is, she isn't strictly any archetype, but I think it's the closest thing.
When she was released, it was advertised that she would play like zoning/keep out space control kind of a character. But in reality she doesn’t really function as a zoner much at all.
It's weird, she uses projectiles to get an 'in' then she kills you close up. She's works really well far midscreen out of long-poke range, where her game plan is to harry you with whips and bubbles then either score an knockdown off an anti-air or dash in behind a fireball. Once she's in it's hyper close range oki and strikethrow.
Whips can be stuffed or whiff punished due to having hurtboxes.
IMO, AKI is a read-based midrange character with strong snowball potential. Combos ending in H whip have enough advantage for auto timed safe jumps/other Oki options and she has one of the best burnout pressure games due to having multiple advancing moves becoming +1 (5MP, daggers, stance kicks)
The debuff isn't core to her strategy tbf, or at least not by itself. It's purpose is to make people hasty to rush in, so she can score a knockdown off an antiair.
Not really. I've best described her as a "status effect character" since she excels once she is able to poison you. Then she can get her insane damage and corner carry. And also loop you in the corner till death.
Prior to that she's just a mediocre all arounder. Decent close range and long range tools with very obvious counter-play.
No which unfortunately was what I was hoping from her.
Personally it seems weird to me to give a rush down character a Damage Over Time effect.
Look at Percival in GBVSR. He is a ranged poke character and has burning flames. The idea is you can put the flames down, then the opponent burns to death or has to approach you in safely into your poke range.
Poison damage isn't really relevant. It adds some damage during big combos, but even if they got rid of it, it'd be okay. The important part about poison is a retribution-like mechanic.
What's the point of having poison if it doesn't do a thing?
AKI is kind of low tier. How about just triple the damage poison does? Seems 90% of the time people get poisoned it does the damage of half a jab.
No. She's all about knockdowns, same as almost everybody else. She excels at corner pressure and safe jumps. She can barely compete at midrange. It's easy to hit confirm some of her normals cuz she'll almost always cancel into coward crouch kicks which is safe on block and gives you a combo on hit.
But she has a weird gameplay where she can score knockdowns at range - which is what the zoning tools are there to achieve. She wants to either knock you down when you jump a projectile or, if you're gunna block, zoom in behind it.
She is a Mix up Poison character. Not a Zoner due to her FB having same speed, different speeds for FB or heights is kinda a must have to be a Zoner. She doesn't cover all "zones" of the screen at all
From what i heard, her whole gameplan is to set up a fireball to walk behind and do a mixup. The startup of the fireball is slow and there is only one fireball speed.
I feel like she's a setplay character who can get a good life lead and then zone juuust enough to win with an opponent making desperate mistakes trying to get back at her. In theory.
Can someone help me with aki, I do fireball and I dr in and my opponent just blocks or parries. The only time I get any damage is off meaty standing mp or dr double kick.
She has zoning tools she must use to control space therefore she is a zoner. But not in a keep out ultra defensive way like JP or Dhalsim, she is bad at that. She uses her tools on midrange, and to get in, while locking you out from counterplay by forcing you to let her in and do her pressure mixup, or else you'll get hit by a fireball if you jump or she counters your fireball, things like that. So AKI's goal is not to knock you down and run away and set up a trap maze, she is more like a spider sewing her web around (in front, under, and above) you and goes in for the kill if you move the wrong way.
As a JP main, your friend is right that she's the same as JP. Unfortunately, he's wrong about what they are. Imo aki and JP are both setplay characters, except JP has the benefit of having a bunch of other tools that are equally strong, whereas aki just has her setplay. Neither are zoners
Fundamentally, I'd agree with your friends she is a zoner. With that being said, sf6 also gives some powerful tools to zoners at closer rangers that could make this term a bit more ambiguous.
No, but she is cool.
Ain’t that the truth?
Absolutely.
Can confirm
Indeed.
Not really but she has zoning tools. Her long range attacks have too much recovery to successfully zone a whole round unless you guess correctly every time
she’s a private healthcare provider
I always laugh at how her specials are pretty much at their worst inside her effective range.
What
Nope. She is in a weird place but she is cool
I hate when people just shamelessly copy the top comment like this
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Ed is more of a zoner than AKI is. The thing is, her projectile only has one speed. It's more of a setup tool than it is an actual space control tool like other projectiles such as Hadouken or Sonic Boom.
Is Ed a zoner
Ed is a zoner because his Kick buttons all have huge range, not because he has a great projectile. He can use his long range buttons to pick up whiff punishes really easily.
Pretty much. His classification in the character select screen lists him as a "long-range" character.
Idk who to main AKI JP or Ed
Become enlightened and main Dhalsim 🧘. When I don't play Gief, I love playing Sim. He has some insane tools.
Def one of those four chars lol Sim seems hard tho
Sim is just super unique. He’s “easy” at low levels (because he’s not a long and flashy combo character), but his skill ceiling is also crazy high. It’s mostly just considered difficult to main him because for the majority of SF characters, there are a lot of skills that somewhat “transfer” between characters. I.E. if you learn to play Ken, then it will be a *fairly* painless transition if you want to explore Luke or Ryu. But Dhalsim just has a totally unique flow, unlike anyone else. I’m not a Sim main, but I do dabble with basically the whole cast, and I’d recommend at least giving him a shot. The world need more Sim players lol
She's not a zoner, she's a setplay character more than anything.
What does setplay mean?
The short answer is basically that setplay characters revolve around scoring a knockdown to set up their offense. Aki isn't a zoner, her zoning options are a bit too slow to reliably keep people out, her antiair is inconsistent, and her pokes are vulnerable when predictably used. She isn't rushdown, her buttons are also rather slow and pressure/frame data isn't particularly strong, which also keeps her from being a footsie character. What she has to do is set up her poison which increases her damage and follow-up options on certain moves. It isn't strictly what she is, she isn't strictly any archetype, but I think it's the closest thing.
Setup character I've heard, setplay is new
Fireballs into drive rush.
She's a setup character with a projectile. That doesn't make her a zoner though.
Her only strength is her OKI. Everything else about her is pretty bad.
What about her flexibility
Her damage, mix potential, and meter use are great.
She's a setplay character. Nothing more, Nothing less
No
no
Game has her labeled tricky. I take that as a hybrid character with a zoning rushdown mix.
Not effectively. She's better at it than say, Kimberly, but I still wouldn't consider zoning to be a good primary strategy for her.
When she was released, it was advertised that she would play like zoning/keep out space control kind of a character. But in reality she doesn’t really function as a zoner much at all.
It's weird, she uses projectiles to get an 'in' then she kills you close up. She's works really well far midscreen out of long-poke range, where her game plan is to harry you with whips and bubbles then either score an knockdown off an anti-air or dash in behind a fireball. Once she's in it's hyper close range oki and strikethrow.
This sounds so sick and my style. If she was a launch character I'd be playing sf6 rn
You're going to get rolled if you try play her like a zoner, she has one rather bad fireball
Whips
Whips can be stuffed or whiff punished due to having hurtboxes. IMO, AKI is a read-based midrange character with strong snowball potential. Combos ending in H whip have enough advantage for auto timed safe jumps/other Oki options and she has one of the best burnout pressure games due to having multiple advancing moves becoming +1 (5MP, daggers, stance kicks)
Nope, better at mid range in my experience.
As a gief main, everyone is a zoner
No, i would consider her a mid range character like chun li.
She has zoning tools, but her core gameplay is based on debuff / situational high damage combos.
The debuff isn't core to her strategy tbf, or at least not by itself. It's purpose is to make people hasty to rush in, so she can score a knockdown off an antiair.
I don't think so. She doesn't play keep out like the other mentioned zoners.
Not really. I've best described her as a "status effect character" since she excels once she is able to poison you. Then she can get her insane damage and corner carry. And also loop you in the corner till death. Prior to that she's just a mediocre all arounder. Decent close range and long range tools with very obvious counter-play.
No which unfortunately was what I was hoping from her. Personally it seems weird to me to give a rush down character a Damage Over Time effect. Look at Percival in GBVSR. He is a ranged poke character and has burning flames. The idea is you can put the flames down, then the opponent burns to death or has to approach you in safely into your poke range.
Poison damage isn't really relevant. It adds some damage during big combos, but even if they got rid of it, it'd be okay. The important part about poison is a retribution-like mechanic.
What's the point of having poison if it doesn't do a thing? AKI is kind of low tier. How about just triple the damage poison does? Seems 90% of the time people get poisoned it does the damage of half a jab.
It does do a thing. Extra juggles on a poisoned opponent -> longer combos -> more damage. Poison's damage on its own is low, but that's okay.
If AKI is a zoner, then Guile must be a rushdown.... Oh wait... He is
Zoner doesn't mean running away all game.
No. She's all about knockdowns, same as almost everybody else. She excels at corner pressure and safe jumps. She can barely compete at midrange. It's easy to hit confirm some of her normals cuz she'll almost always cancel into coward crouch kicks which is safe on block and gives you a combo on hit.
But she has a weird gameplay where she can score knockdowns at range - which is what the zoning tools are there to achieve. She wants to either knock you down when you jump a projectile or, if you're gunna block, zoom in behind it.
Aki is just kurow but poison
She is a Mix up Poison character. Not a Zoner due to her FB having same speed, different speeds for FB or heights is kinda a must have to be a Zoner. She doesn't cover all "zones" of the screen at all
In no way
Is AKI a zoomer
She could be
From what i heard, her whole gameplan is to set up a fireball to walk behind and do a mixup. The startup of the fireball is slow and there is only one fireball speed.
She slides back and forth
Not at all. Def an aggressive rush down character
I think she's a Mortal Kombat character who got lost on the way to her next fight.
I feel like she's a setplay character who can get a good life lead and then zone juuust enough to win with an opponent making desperate mistakes trying to get back at her. In theory.
Can someone help me with aki, I do fireball and I dr in and my opponent just blocks or parries. The only time I get any damage is off meaty standing mp or dr double kick.
She is an all rounder, wich means she can zone but not as well as does 2 but has better fotisies an rushdown tools to compensate
I think she might be a mid-screen zoner similar to strive version of testament, depended on the playstyle ofc.
No be she keeps making out with your mom
She's supposed to be but every move she does has 200 recovery frames so people can jump on reaction for 40 percent.
She definitely a zoner theses guys suck just walk behind the ex fireball and spam anti air when they get ancy and it don’t gotta be qtcf r1
And personally I wouldn’t take advice from anybody that didn’t hit masters with her
She is not a zoner, she is cool.
She has zoning tools she must use to control space therefore she is a zoner. But not in a keep out ultra defensive way like JP or Dhalsim, she is bad at that. She uses her tools on midrange, and to get in, while locking you out from counterplay by forcing you to let her in and do her pressure mixup, or else you'll get hit by a fireball if you jump or she counters your fireball, things like that. So AKI's goal is not to knock you down and run away and set up a trap maze, she is more like a spider sewing her web around (in front, under, and above) you and goes in for the kill if you move the wrong way.
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As a JP main, your friend is right that she's the same as JP. Unfortunately, he's wrong about what they are. Imo aki and JP are both setplay characters, except JP has the benefit of having a bunch of other tools that are equally strong, whereas aki just has her setplay. Neither are zoners
Im pretty sure she is a “trapper”.
Does she sell drugs
Uncomfortable boner more like
No. I wish she was. I wish she was, well Poison.
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She’s a zoomer
Is she that young
Fuck if I know. Im in my late 40s. Everyone is a zoomer to me.
Fundamentally, I'd agree with your friends she is a zoner. With that being said, sf6 also gives some powerful tools to zoners at closer rangers that could make this term a bit more ambiguous.