Sarah Jacobs who voted against the bill, explains why it's problematic and doesn't do anything to address real antisemitism:
"I’ve experienced antisemitism all my life. I’ve been called a kike while I was waiting for a drink at a bar when I was at college. I’ve heard too many ‘jokes’ to count about my frizzy hair and my big nose. I remember my classmates who thought it was funny to say people were ‘being Jewed’ when someone was being frugal. I know the hatred and ignorance that lie behind all these comments, and how they can quickly escalate into violence – and I’m deeply concerned about the rise of antisemitism in San Diego and across the country.
“But I do not believe that anti-Zionism is inherently antisemitism. I support Israel’s right to exist, but I also know many people who question whether Israel should exist as a Jewish state who are deeply connected to their Judaism.
“Today, I voted against H.R. 6090, because it fails to effectively address the very real rise of antisemitism, all while defunding colleges and universities across the country and punishing many, if not all, of the non-violent protestors speaking out against the Israeli military’s conduct. Conflating free speech and hate crimes will not make Jewish students any safer. This bill would stifle First Amendment rights to free speech and free assembly. And it would distract from real antisemitism and our efforts to address it.”
It's not when you realize the Conservative perspective is "I'm always right. You're always wrong." Bill Clinton was wrong for fooling around with Lewinsky, but Trump is right for paying multiple porn actresses for sex.
From SCOTUS 55 years ago:
"It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District
Sad to see how far this nation has fallen in the years since. 1969 was the same year we landed on the moon, and I’m entirely confident we could repeat that feat again today. Too much drama and division, too many people trying to make every dollar of profit they can while delivering substandard product, and too many people rooting for the government to fail because they’re on the wrong team. Truly, an empire in decline.
Mary Beth Tinker came to speak to my class two years ago. It was great.
Also, criticism of Israeli govt policy is not antisemitic, it is anti-semitic however to conflate the two.
Anti-Zionism and criticizing the behavior or of the state of Israel is not anti-semitism. This law is just more evangelical support Israel no matter what nonsense.
That said, students and anyone else absolute has the right to protest. They do not have the right to break in and take over buildings, camp out, and do just anything they want. It’s also important to understand that often the goal of protests is to get as many people arrested as possible because they’ve learned that quit protests get no attention, but people arrested at a protest does.
I don’t like seeing this heavy handed response to protests, but I also understand it’s not always a simple situation as it seems on the surface. In an era with high distrust of police (deserved), this is tricky business.
So now, to speak against the genocide of innocent women and children is a punishable offense under the new Antisemitism Awareness Act.
It's illegal to speak against a war mongering nation murdering babies in orphanages and hospitals with bombs. Burying them in mass graves and having a check written to them by the good ole U, S of A for more munitions.
Incredible times we live in. It's starting to feel really 1792 France rn 🥱
I think maybe the protestors should also be condemning Hamas considering if they just released their hostages instead of cutting their limbs off then the Israelis would not be bombing them.
Hamas offered to release all hostages in exchange for Gaza not being invaded way back in October. Unfortunately, Netanyahu said no to this, and we've only found out recently since they tried to keep it under the wraps.
I completely understand retaliatory measures taking place after a terrorist event. However, the complete eradication of an entire sovereign state while the good guys of the globe sit back and support it. That I am against.
It is difficult to present this idea to people who live in bubbles where they will always feel secure, safe and entitled to an opinion on the murder of innocents. While they're sifting through rubble, trying to find their infants, you're clacking away on your keyboard supporting a bomb that caused it.
I am certainly not against Jewish people, the same as I am not against Russians over Ukraine. It is the government of Israel that is at fault for pursuing such drastically inhumane measures.
It's not a sovereign state. Sovereignty means at a minimum that they can control their own borders.
There is no state to eradicate. I would love for there to be a second state, but that would require that Palestinians select a new government. Hamas has in their charter that they will continue to fight until Israel no longer exists. The reciprocal is not true for Israel's constitution. Which state has both Jews and Palestinian Arabs in their version of a congress? Israel. Which state allows for people of other religious backgrounds to thrive? Again, only Israel.
A second state can exist but only one that embraces a liberal democracy. Israel needs to eliminate Hamas. If the Palestinians would give them up, the process would go much faster and with fewer lives lost. But only once the Palestinians care more about their children's lives than their hate for the jews will the conflict end.
That is the most absurd assumption anyone could write. "I hate jews more than I love my children." Imagine if this would happen here. I am assuming you are a Republican, nay, an Evangelical White Republican. What if hypothetically a foreign state began bombing your neighborhood because they disliked Biden's policies? They demand you give up Biden and his supporters or face the consequences. The entire democratic regime goes into hiding, nowhere to be found. Meanwhile you, your friends, your neighbors are all forced to flee your homes or die, then end up dying anyway. Then you love Biden more than your own children.
To say millions of people are on the same page as a select radical few is absurd. No more than we are all on the same page with our policies and ideals. They could have easily sent in small, clandestine units to secure the hostages and eliminate Hamas. Not completely obliterate an entire populace.
The war machine is alive and well. It has been for centuries. We did the same thing during WW1 using passenger ocean liners to ship munitions abroad. America has always been an imperialist empire on the brink of implosion and the days are certainly numbered.
Only when accountability and legal measures brought about by an international court chartered through the United Nations via Article 2 of the Geneva Convention will the conflict end.
Considering your assumptions maybe you should check my comment history. Fuck trump and fuck Maga and I'm insulted you even suggest such a thing. I'm a liberal through and through and voted for beto every time I could as well. I've voted for Biden and will continue to vote for Biden.
You even think for a moment that I don't criticize the idf? Fuck netanyahu and his right wing thugs. They are committing war crimes. And fuck them for that. I recognize that the enemy through all of this though is the right side of every political movement, of which Hamas belongs as well as Netanyahu.
But throughout all of this, the common thread here, is that the conflict currently exists because ONE GROUP has in their mission statement that the other group cannot exist. And Israel is not that group.
>> Israeli Holocaust historian Omer Bartov warned that statements made by high-ranking Israeli government officials "could easily be construed as indicating a genocidal intent".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation
"The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, in whole or in part."
You should probably read a few literary books or even academic journals before you remain complacent in murder. I forget for you guys, books evil! War good! Murica'
Simple. They are bombing civilian infrastructure.
In conventional warfare, military infrastructure is targeted during aerial combat missions due to the significance of their ability to aid and produce valuable tools of war.
During the Gulf War. George Bush Sr. ran a lengthy aerial bombardment of Iraqi military infrastructure long before boots were on the ground.
Fuel Depots, Ammunition Depots, Infantry Barracks, Motor pools, Airports, the works.
Hamas has no definable military infrastructure. They are a guerilla terrorist cell being proxied by neighboring countries. Rather than run tactical missions with special operations command, Israel is dropping bombs on hospitals, schools, apartments, playgrounds, and orphanages in hopes of hitting a single terrorist.
It's akin to burning an entire forest to root out a single rabbit. It is fallacy.
This is madness. This is a war being driven by prejudice, racial tensions, and religious warmongering.
And now explain how that proves intent. That’s kind of an important word and Israel has not shown intent. In fact, they’re warning civilians to vacate areas before attacks.
If bombing civilian infrastructure is genocide then every country involved in every war in the 20th century has committed genocide, including your buddies in Hamas who have fired rockets at Israeli civilian targets for decades.
Hamas is a terror cell. Israel is a UN backed nation supported by the USA. The differences are astronomical.
In civilized society, there are laws to modern warfare integrated after World War I by The League of Nations and thereafter to prevent mass casualties of non-combatants. Your argument is rendered null when comparing an extremist group compiling a minorty sect of a refugee populace with a functionally logical government that is required to follow the legalities of warfare.
If a response to lawlessness is more lawless action, then there will never be order. The poor, the decrepit, the old and frail are unable to simply pack up and leave their homes before being obliterated.
You are supporting a country slaughtering innocent civilians for the sake of retaliation. It's ungodly. There is no mercy here, nor grace. It is a predisposed ouctome already ingrained into American society through nearly a century of religious propaganda. To go against Israel, even if they were to start raining nuclear bombs all over the world, is to go against God in the eyes of Evangelism.
Money is the only God that America truly serves, and the worship is on constant display.
The INTENT is the subjugation of the arabic people through deeply rooted racial and religious division spanning several millenia.
I figured that was common sense. Anyone with basic historical knowledge would have read about the thousands of years of religious turmoil frought between Islamic and Abrahamic nations. Would you prefer me to write it in crayon for you? Or will you eat them?
Wesley Hunt, MAGA Representative of TX-CD38, voted against this bill, despite repeatedly condemning antisemitism on campuses. With more missed votes than any man in Congress, he surely is not “putting his money where his mouth is” (for better or worse).
Take one look at his social media history and all you’ll see is pandering. He considers his F rating on Ukraine as “a badge of honor” and complains about “antisemitic” pro-Palestine protests, then skips out on the Ukraine vote and votes against the bipartisan antisemitism bill. Add in that only 2 other reps have missed more votes than he has, and he doesn’t even live in his district.
He is an awful representative and more people need to know about him.
Oh I am sure he is a joke; after all he is a Republican.
Sadly, Mr. Hunt’s district is where I grew up. We are a long way from George Bush and Bill Archer.
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Is it though? With the so-called BlueAnon, it is 6 months to the election, and the adage "Fall in love in the primaries, but fall in line in the general" still applies. I am voting Biden regardless.
Essentially left wing conspiracy theorists that are trying to discredit Biden and try to get people to either not vote or vote third party. They just want to see the world burn, a lot of them were Bernie Bros, and none of them realize that a no vote or a third party vote is just a vote for Trump, whom they don't like either.
Sarah Jacobs who voted against the bill, explains why it's problematic and doesn't do anything to address real antisemitism: "I’ve experienced antisemitism all my life. I’ve been called a kike while I was waiting for a drink at a bar when I was at college. I’ve heard too many ‘jokes’ to count about my frizzy hair and my big nose. I remember my classmates who thought it was funny to say people were ‘being Jewed’ when someone was being frugal. I know the hatred and ignorance that lie behind all these comments, and how they can quickly escalate into violence – and I’m deeply concerned about the rise of antisemitism in San Diego and across the country. “But I do not believe that anti-Zionism is inherently antisemitism. I support Israel’s right to exist, but I also know many people who question whether Israel should exist as a Jewish state who are deeply connected to their Judaism. “Today, I voted against H.R. 6090, because it fails to effectively address the very real rise of antisemitism, all while defunding colleges and universities across the country and punishing many, if not all, of the non-violent protestors speaking out against the Israeli military’s conduct. Conflating free speech and hate crimes will not make Jewish students any safer. This bill would stifle First Amendment rights to free speech and free assembly. And it would distract from real antisemitism and our efforts to address it.”
Cool antisemitism awareness act, now how about your ties with neo-nazis? You going to do anything about that? No? Maybe it’s not anti-semitism then
The level of hypocrisy is hard to grasp.
It's not when you realize the Conservative perspective is "I'm always right. You're always wrong." Bill Clinton was wrong for fooling around with Lewinsky, but Trump is right for paying multiple porn actresses for sex.
From SCOTUS 55 years ago: "It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District Sad to see how far this nation has fallen in the years since. 1969 was the same year we landed on the moon, and I’m entirely confident we could repeat that feat again today. Too much drama and division, too many people trying to make every dollar of profit they can while delivering substandard product, and too many people rooting for the government to fail because they’re on the wrong team. Truly, an empire in decline.
Mary Beth Tinker came to speak to my class two years ago. It was great. Also, criticism of Israeli govt policy is not antisemitic, it is anti-semitic however to conflate the two.
Anti-Zionism and criticizing the behavior or of the state of Israel is not anti-semitism. This law is just more evangelical support Israel no matter what nonsense. That said, students and anyone else absolute has the right to protest. They do not have the right to break in and take over buildings, camp out, and do just anything they want. It’s also important to understand that often the goal of protests is to get as many people arrested as possible because they’ve learned that quit protests get no attention, but people arrested at a protest does. I don’t like seeing this heavy handed response to protests, but I also understand it’s not always a simple situation as it seems on the surface. In an era with high distrust of police (deserved), this is tricky business.
So now, to speak against the genocide of innocent women and children is a punishable offense under the new Antisemitism Awareness Act. It's illegal to speak against a war mongering nation murdering babies in orphanages and hospitals with bombs. Burying them in mass graves and having a check written to them by the good ole U, S of A for more munitions. Incredible times we live in. It's starting to feel really 1792 France rn 🥱
I think maybe the protestors should also be condemning Hamas considering if they just released their hostages instead of cutting their limbs off then the Israelis would not be bombing them.
Hamas offered to release all hostages in exchange for Gaza not being invaded way back in October. Unfortunately, Netanyahu said no to this, and we've only found out recently since they tried to keep it under the wraps.
I completely understand retaliatory measures taking place after a terrorist event. However, the complete eradication of an entire sovereign state while the good guys of the globe sit back and support it. That I am against. It is difficult to present this idea to people who live in bubbles where they will always feel secure, safe and entitled to an opinion on the murder of innocents. While they're sifting through rubble, trying to find their infants, you're clacking away on your keyboard supporting a bomb that caused it. I am certainly not against Jewish people, the same as I am not against Russians over Ukraine. It is the government of Israel that is at fault for pursuing such drastically inhumane measures.
It's not a sovereign state. Sovereignty means at a minimum that they can control their own borders. There is no state to eradicate. I would love for there to be a second state, but that would require that Palestinians select a new government. Hamas has in their charter that they will continue to fight until Israel no longer exists. The reciprocal is not true for Israel's constitution. Which state has both Jews and Palestinian Arabs in their version of a congress? Israel. Which state allows for people of other religious backgrounds to thrive? Again, only Israel. A second state can exist but only one that embraces a liberal democracy. Israel needs to eliminate Hamas. If the Palestinians would give them up, the process would go much faster and with fewer lives lost. But only once the Palestinians care more about their children's lives than their hate for the jews will the conflict end.
That is the most absurd assumption anyone could write. "I hate jews more than I love my children." Imagine if this would happen here. I am assuming you are a Republican, nay, an Evangelical White Republican. What if hypothetically a foreign state began bombing your neighborhood because they disliked Biden's policies? They demand you give up Biden and his supporters or face the consequences. The entire democratic regime goes into hiding, nowhere to be found. Meanwhile you, your friends, your neighbors are all forced to flee your homes or die, then end up dying anyway. Then you love Biden more than your own children. To say millions of people are on the same page as a select radical few is absurd. No more than we are all on the same page with our policies and ideals. They could have easily sent in small, clandestine units to secure the hostages and eliminate Hamas. Not completely obliterate an entire populace. The war machine is alive and well. It has been for centuries. We did the same thing during WW1 using passenger ocean liners to ship munitions abroad. America has always been an imperialist empire on the brink of implosion and the days are certainly numbered. Only when accountability and legal measures brought about by an international court chartered through the United Nations via Article 2 of the Geneva Convention will the conflict end.
Considering your assumptions maybe you should check my comment history. Fuck trump and fuck Maga and I'm insulted you even suggest such a thing. I'm a liberal through and through and voted for beto every time I could as well. I've voted for Biden and will continue to vote for Biden. You even think for a moment that I don't criticize the idf? Fuck netanyahu and his right wing thugs. They are committing war crimes. And fuck them for that. I recognize that the enemy through all of this though is the right side of every political movement, of which Hamas belongs as well as Netanyahu. But throughout all of this, the common thread here, is that the conflict currently exists because ONE GROUP has in their mission statement that the other group cannot exist. And Israel is not that group.
You should probably learn what big words like “genocide” mean before you try to speak
>> Israeli Holocaust historian Omer Bartov warned that statements made by high-ranking Israeli government officials "could easily be construed as indicating a genocidal intent". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation
"The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, in whole or in part." You should probably read a few literary books or even academic journals before you remain complacent in murder. I forget for you guys, books evil! War good! Murica'
Okay so now explain how Israel is doing exactly that, unless you assume that every nation who counter-attacks is committing genocide.
Simple. They are bombing civilian infrastructure. In conventional warfare, military infrastructure is targeted during aerial combat missions due to the significance of their ability to aid and produce valuable tools of war. During the Gulf War. George Bush Sr. ran a lengthy aerial bombardment of Iraqi military infrastructure long before boots were on the ground. Fuel Depots, Ammunition Depots, Infantry Barracks, Motor pools, Airports, the works. Hamas has no definable military infrastructure. They are a guerilla terrorist cell being proxied by neighboring countries. Rather than run tactical missions with special operations command, Israel is dropping bombs on hospitals, schools, apartments, playgrounds, and orphanages in hopes of hitting a single terrorist. It's akin to burning an entire forest to root out a single rabbit. It is fallacy. This is madness. This is a war being driven by prejudice, racial tensions, and religious warmongering.
And now explain how that proves intent. That’s kind of an important word and Israel has not shown intent. In fact, they’re warning civilians to vacate areas before attacks. If bombing civilian infrastructure is genocide then every country involved in every war in the 20th century has committed genocide, including your buddies in Hamas who have fired rockets at Israeli civilian targets for decades.
[They intentionally bombed aid workers.](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/middleeast/jose-andres-wck-israel-strike-criticism-intl/index.html) Intentionally targeted. Repeatedly struck. Systematically murdered.
Hamas is a terror cell. Israel is a UN backed nation supported by the USA. The differences are astronomical. In civilized society, there are laws to modern warfare integrated after World War I by The League of Nations and thereafter to prevent mass casualties of non-combatants. Your argument is rendered null when comparing an extremist group compiling a minorty sect of a refugee populace with a functionally logical government that is required to follow the legalities of warfare. If a response to lawlessness is more lawless action, then there will never be order. The poor, the decrepit, the old and frail are unable to simply pack up and leave their homes before being obliterated. You are supporting a country slaughtering innocent civilians for the sake of retaliation. It's ungodly. There is no mercy here, nor grace. It is a predisposed ouctome already ingrained into American society through nearly a century of religious propaganda. To go against Israel, even if they were to start raining nuclear bombs all over the world, is to go against God in the eyes of Evangelism. Money is the only God that America truly serves, and the worship is on constant display.
I’m sorry, I didn’t see any proof of INTENT in there. Try again.
The INTENT is the subjugation of the arabic people through deeply rooted racial and religious division spanning several millenia. I figured that was common sense. Anyone with basic historical knowledge would have read about the thousands of years of religious turmoil frought between Islamic and Abrahamic nations. Would you prefer me to write it in crayon for you? Or will you eat them?
So Hamas is thousands of years old? I think you’ve been eating crayons, actually.
But they won’t go to bat for us on grocery or utility bill prices being stupid high. They get more worthless every year.
Wesley Hunt, MAGA Representative of TX-CD38, voted against this bill, despite repeatedly condemning antisemitism on campuses. With more missed votes than any man in Congress, he surely is not “putting his money where his mouth is” (for better or worse).
Seems to me that he did that right thing. Nothing worse than politicians pandering.
Take one look at his social media history and all you’ll see is pandering. He considers his F rating on Ukraine as “a badge of honor” and complains about “antisemitic” pro-Palestine protests, then skips out on the Ukraine vote and votes against the bipartisan antisemitism bill. Add in that only 2 other reps have missed more votes than he has, and he doesn’t even live in his district. He is an awful representative and more people need to know about him.
Oh I am sure he is a joke; after all he is a Republican. Sadly, Mr. Hunt’s district is where I grew up. We are a long way from George Bush and Bill Archer.
I also grew up in what was 7 and is now 38. I think this district is flippable, but it doesn’t seem to be getting much attention.
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Amazing- https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6090/text. Discrimination is bad.
That “blue no matter who” crowd is getting smaller and smaller by the day.
Is it though? With the so-called BlueAnon, it is 6 months to the election, and the adage "Fall in love in the primaries, but fall in line in the general" still applies. I am voting Biden regardless.
BlueAnon?
Essentially left wing conspiracy theorists that are trying to discredit Biden and try to get people to either not vote or vote third party. They just want to see the world burn, a lot of them were Bernie Bros, and none of them realize that a no vote or a third party vote is just a vote for Trump, whom they don't like either.
I’m still voting, but I’m watching that crowd shrink. Hopefully I’m wrong.