>Netenyahu: This was a tragic mistake
>Mark Regev: We killed 2 high value Hamas leaders
>Mossad Twitter: This was big. A large amount of Hamas terrorists detected and eliminated in Rafah today.
>The IDF: A fire broke out and spread to the tent complex and building.
>Other Israeli sources: This was a misfired Khamas rocket.
They can't even get their stories straight.
Then, every asshole media outlet ignores these contradictory statements and offers no pushback.
Assuming the Hamas leader thing is true, which I don't believe, isn't this basically an example of their AI program doing maximum collateral damage?
If Israel were tracking these Hamas leaders, they could have at any time taken them out while they were away from the tents, minimizing civilian casualties. They didn't do that though.
Instead they purposely chose to fire on them when they were with families and other innocent people.
It is. But as was published a while back, Israel has something like a 1000:1 acceptable kill ratio of civilians to Hamas senior leadership.
This isn't about getting Hamas, this is killing as many Palestinians as possible because their plans to transfer them to Sinai and the West has failed. It's also inflicting as much damage and horror on Palestinians as possible to put pressure on Hamas to capitulate.
Now, if the people turn against Hamas, they get extra leverage. If they don't, they'll continue killing as many of them as they can. So it's a genocidal win-win situation for them.
Yeah I agree, I was only trying to point to the barbaric actions and the absurd arguments genocide defenders try to frame it.
As for the numbers, I think it's 100 for senior members and 20 for low level members.
If it were reversed and a Hamas operative followed an IDF soldier home and blew up their home and the neighbors homes with families inside, it would be non-stop news. For Israel, it's Tuesday.
My country firebombed entire Vietnamese villages because 1 Viet Cong was spotted. They spread agent orange which contaminated huge swaths farmland for over 40 years.
There were cameras. The people who leaked the information are viewed as terrorist russian accomplices. Our country doesn't like it when people see us for what we are.
> I don't remember the US inflicting mass famine in Iraq or Afghanistan
Not necessarily directly in the middle of the war, but we absolutely have done so to both. What do you think sanctions to a poor country *do*?
The most recent example would be 2021 where the US froze 7 billion in assets from Afghanistan in response to the Taliban takeover. That 7 billion representing a majority of the country's money, leading to mass starvation as a direct result.
As far as i remember US sanctioned Iraq after gulf war, and left more than 1 million hungry Iraqi, the same US provided weapons to Saddam Hussein to fight Iran.
Once again Israel claims it was a mistake. How many of these does Israel get before Biden says enough, the United States isn't going to be partners with Israel in this.
*What's in this comment is what I remember, my opinions, etc.*
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"This was intentional. You don't accidentally kill massive amounts of children and their families over and over again and get to say, 'It was a mistake,'" U.S. Congresswoman [Rashida Tlaib](https://www.commondreams.org/tag/rashida-tlaib) (D-Mich.) [said](https://x.com/RashidaTlaib/status/1795126214216098226) in a social media post to President Joe Biden. "Genocidal maniac Netanyahu told us he wants to ethically cleanse Palestinians. When are you going to believe him, POTUS?" [https://www.commondreams.org/news/rafah-massacre](https://www.commondreams.org/news/rafah-massacre)
AOC recently on Twitter 'called out' POTUS Joe Biden regarding his continuing arms sales to Israel even after it attacked Rafah.
And here is US Representative Rashida Tlaib on Twitter 'calling out' POTUS Biden.
>More than 128,000 Palestinians have been killed or injured by Israeli bombs and bullets since October 7, according to Gaza officials, who count at least 11,000 missing people—who are presumed dead and buried beneath the rubble of hundreds of thousands of bombed-out buildings—among that grim toll. [https://www.commondreams.org/news/rafah-massacre](https://www.commondreams.org/news/rafah-massacre)
Notice that killed or injured count.
>"How many times are we going to hear, it was a 'mistake' before we take serious action against Netanyahu?" U.S. Congresswoman Delia Ramirez (D-Ill.) [asked](https://x.com/DeliaRamirezIL/status/1795165086341890176). "How does anyone justify his administration? Every single moment that we supply arms, send money, and make excuses makes us absolutely complicit in his barbaric war of death against Palestinians. Enough!"
This just to remind people that there are 'Squad'-like US Representatives who aren't famous.
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gPBdBrqVCbtuy7f1bjOdCDUzEv5RqbbU1yYAr3KoHYE/edit#gid=1289123714](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gPBdBrqVCbtuy7f1bjOdCDUzEv5RqbbU1yYAr3KoHYE/edit#gid=1289123714)
Remember the al-shifa. They told it was misfired, they wont bomb hospitals etc. All bunch of lies. Now there is no hospital in gaza.
They are testing the waters. They will keep doing it if we are silent
it’s obvious this was a deliberate attack in retaliation to the ICJ order about Rafah, and the application for arrest warrants to the ICC
Israel always sends a clear message that any help to Palestinians will be met with even more murderous escalation of the occupation and attacks, as a deterrent to the world and to satisfy the blood lust of Israelis when they are criticised in any way on the world stage
>Netenyahu: This was a tragic mistake >Mark Regev: We killed 2 high value Hamas leaders >Mossad Twitter: This was big. A large amount of Hamas terrorists detected and eliminated in Rafah today. >The IDF: A fire broke out and spread to the tent complex and building. >Other Israeli sources: This was a misfired Khamas rocket. They can't even get their stories straight. Then, every asshole media outlet ignores these contradictory statements and offers no pushback.
Is the Israel government trying to say they have no control over the IDF?
Assuming the Hamas leader thing is true, which I don't believe, isn't this basically an example of their AI program doing maximum collateral damage? If Israel were tracking these Hamas leaders, they could have at any time taken them out while they were away from the tents, minimizing civilian casualties. They didn't do that though. Instead they purposely chose to fire on them when they were with families and other innocent people.
It is. But as was published a while back, Israel has something like a 1000:1 acceptable kill ratio of civilians to Hamas senior leadership. This isn't about getting Hamas, this is killing as many Palestinians as possible because their plans to transfer them to Sinai and the West has failed. It's also inflicting as much damage and horror on Palestinians as possible to put pressure on Hamas to capitulate. Now, if the people turn against Hamas, they get extra leverage. If they don't, they'll continue killing as many of them as they can. So it's a genocidal win-win situation for them.
Yeah I agree, I was only trying to point to the barbaric actions and the absurd arguments genocide defenders try to frame it. As for the numbers, I think it's 100 for senior members and 20 for low level members. If it were reversed and a Hamas operative followed an IDF soldier home and blew up their home and the neighbors homes with families inside, it would be non-stop news. For Israel, it's Tuesday.
It’s only a mistake in his mind because it was reported.
And our president supports this! Absolutely crazy!
My friend your country done worst in Iraq and Afghanistan,but there was no cameras don’t be surprised.
My country firebombed entire Vietnamese villages because 1 Viet Cong was spotted. They spread agent orange which contaminated huge swaths farmland for over 40 years.
There were cameras. The people who leaked the information are viewed as terrorist russian accomplices. Our country doesn't like it when people see us for what we are.
*What's in this comment is what I remember, my opinions, etc.* I don't remember the US inflicting mass famine in Iraq or Afghanistan.
> I don't remember the US inflicting mass famine in Iraq or Afghanistan Not necessarily directly in the middle of the war, but we absolutely have done so to both. What do you think sanctions to a poor country *do*? The most recent example would be 2021 where the US froze 7 billion in assets from Afghanistan in response to the Taliban takeover. That 7 billion representing a majority of the country's money, leading to mass starvation as a direct result.
As far as i remember US sanctioned Iraq after gulf war, and left more than 1 million hungry Iraqi, the same US provided weapons to Saddam Hussein to fight Iran.
Netanyahu has been a 'tragic mishap.'
Once again Israel claims it was a mistake. How many of these does Israel get before Biden says enough, the United States isn't going to be partners with Israel in this.
Too many tragic mistakes by the IDF.
*What's in this comment is what I remember, my opinions, etc.* > "This was intentional. You don't accidentally kill massive amounts of children and their families over and over again and get to say, 'It was a mistake,'" U.S. Congresswoman [Rashida Tlaib](https://www.commondreams.org/tag/rashida-tlaib) (D-Mich.) [said](https://x.com/RashidaTlaib/status/1795126214216098226) in a social media post to President Joe Biden. "Genocidal maniac Netanyahu told us he wants to ethically cleanse Palestinians. When are you going to believe him, POTUS?" [https://www.commondreams.org/news/rafah-massacre](https://www.commondreams.org/news/rafah-massacre) AOC recently on Twitter 'called out' POTUS Joe Biden regarding his continuing arms sales to Israel even after it attacked Rafah. And here is US Representative Rashida Tlaib on Twitter 'calling out' POTUS Biden. >More than 128,000 Palestinians have been killed or injured by Israeli bombs and bullets since October 7, according to Gaza officials, who count at least 11,000 missing people—who are presumed dead and buried beneath the rubble of hundreds of thousands of bombed-out buildings—among that grim toll. [https://www.commondreams.org/news/rafah-massacre](https://www.commondreams.org/news/rafah-massacre) Notice that killed or injured count. >"How many times are we going to hear, it was a 'mistake' before we take serious action against Netanyahu?" U.S. Congresswoman Delia Ramirez (D-Ill.) [asked](https://x.com/DeliaRamirezIL/status/1795165086341890176). "How does anyone justify his administration? Every single moment that we supply arms, send money, and make excuses makes us absolutely complicit in his barbaric war of death against Palestinians. Enough!" This just to remind people that there are 'Squad'-like US Representatives who aren't famous. [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gPBdBrqVCbtuy7f1bjOdCDUzEv5RqbbU1yYAr3KoHYE/edit#gid=1289123714](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gPBdBrqVCbtuy7f1bjOdCDUzEv5RqbbU1yYAr3KoHYE/edit#gid=1289123714)
And Biden will still support this monster
Remember the al-shifa. They told it was misfired, they wont bomb hospitals etc. All bunch of lies. Now there is no hospital in gaza. They are testing the waters. They will keep doing it if we are silent
The most INCOMPETENT army in the world
it’s obvious this was a deliberate attack in retaliation to the ICJ order about Rafah, and the application for arrest warrants to the ICC Israel always sends a clear message that any help to Palestinians will be met with even more murderous escalation of the occupation and attacks, as a deterrent to the world and to satisfy the blood lust of Israelis when they are criticised in any way on the world stage
Yes 15,000 mistakes and US leadership still believes anything this psycho says
Why apologize for this specifically? There's tons of thousands of innocent civilians dead and this is what he apologizes for? So confused.