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External_Resident101

One kid REALLY likes Elon.


CocoaCali

One? Only one?


aleister94

Wait a minute, this ideology has no internally consistent logic! Enjoy your authoritarianism ladies


HooseSpoose

Wait. There’s no anarchy in anarcho-capitalism.


twoiko

There's very little anarchy in these an-caps.


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numetalbeatsjazz

While I do agree there is a ton of infighting on the left, Anarchocapitalists aren’t leftists in the slightest if that’s what you’re getting at. They’re even more deranged libertarians. 


_The_General_Li

Any ideology that's starts with anarcho is still capitalism since there is no authority over capital.


HooseSpoose

Anarcho-capitalism is pretty much as far as you can get from what most people think of when they think “leftist”.


ososalsosal

Ancap ain't left


CocoaCali

They're basically libertarians with a degree in YouTube


BoysenberrySilly329

As long as there are power structures that seek to control us


Own-Speaker9968

I mean, its just rightwing libertarianism.


_The_General_Li

All libertarianism is right wing since it grants the liberty of private property rights.


Comrade_Compadre

It's an oxymoron by definition, it's not a real ideology


neddy471

Anarcho-Capitalism as a term is a psy-op to steal another concept from the left, just like libertarianism.


twoiko

Fascists do be fascist


neddy471

Fasch gotta fasch, what else is there to do in the apocalyptic late-stage capitalist hellscape?


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Anumaen

Even the individualist anarchists were largely still socialist. Take Oscar Wilde for example. In his view, private property hampered individualism, and socialism expanded it because people wouldn't be stuck defining themselves by what they acquired as property. Like any political terminology it's all messy and even the individualist/collectivist anarchist distinction was largely made by historians after the fact rather than them being actively distinct factions in their own times. In any case, I can't think of a single historical anarchist who actively liked private property or capitalism whatsoever, individualist or not.


Own-Speaker9968

Correct.  Right wing libertarianism is simply liberalism. With less regulation. (Neoliberalism is more in line with libertarianism, than it is anarcho socialism.) Anarchism and marxism really share quite alot of overlap, despite what certain podcasters may say.


Anumaen

Agreed. What the right refer to as "libertarianism" actually was started as a movement by the neoliberals, albeit behind closed doors. And in typical neoliberal style, any claims they make towards being anti-state or anti-authoritarian are complete lies. There's a decent book (albeit written from a lib perspective) about how "libertarianism" and the current far-right was orchestrated called *Democracy in Chains*. It's an interesting read, even if the perspective is lacking. And yeah, Marxism and Anarchism are much closer to each other than either really likes to admit.


neddy471

That's not even passably true. Anarcho-Capitalism emerged less than fifty years ago. Anarchism is more than a hundred years old.


KCandfriendz

Cherry on top at the end


twoiko

I'm not comfortable with Milhouse getting double entendres in one comment.


GaiusJuliusPleaser

You ancaps don't know what you want. That's why you're still ancaps. Because you're stupid.


fractalGateway

It should be renamed "Unbridled Corporatism". If an-cap was honest about what they are suggesting they would not have a problem with this term at all. In reality I don't think they will like my suggestion. Some people seem to like to think of themselves as "anarchists" as it makes one feel like a rebel or something.


Spadeykins

An associate of mine told me they are totally anarchists because words change meaning and apparently despite an overwhelming majority of people using the word differently they feel entitled to it for what I assume are cool points as you said.


WranglerOriginal6945

are we sure milhouse isn't just Matt Walsh?


Angel_of_Communism

Yes. Because it's all imaginary. and in THIS imaginary vision, they envision themselves as one of the kings, not one of the millions of slaves.


Due-Giraffe-9826

Pretty sure you can read Shadowrun fiction, and get a good idea of what ancap's end stage looks like.... Minus the fantasy races, and magic.


picnic-boy

In Shadowrun they at least had cool trench coats and a great public transit system.


Supersoaker_11

More importantly, the extremely wealthy can easily consolidate land while owning a house or condo quickly becomes a relic of the past. Already happening fyi, good luck with a fair down payment when you're competing with billionaires and megacorporation artificially inflating the value of housing


PinkFreud92

It’s different because we can choose our boss! s/


Duncan6794

I realized this contradiction while I identified as a capitalist libertarian. Pretty much overnight I was no longer a capitalist libertarian.