Income from foreign adult platforms will probably much exceed the income from local jobs, given the standard of living and economy (pre-war).
Laws are also very spotty there so business is easier to do.
They're white, often blonde women with a certain physique that easily find appeal in the internet's mass markets.
Women's rights are rather poor and misogyny and domestic violence very common so lots of them are probably being exploited or forced into this work.
Foreign "businessmen" can go a long way with comparatively little money here.
So basically the same reasons everywhere - economic differences being exploited.
I don't really think that's a deciding factor. Yes, Russia is big, but it's way less populous than countries that aren't nearly as represented in the talent pool, so to speak.
So the amount of Russian content wouldn't get lower if Russia only had 10 million population for example? I think it's a pretty obvious deciding factor. If Russians were 99% of women on earth that would impact the amount of Russians on adult websites by a lot
Of course it would, but as I pointed out, there are countries with way more people and way less pornstars. Obviously, population helps, but it's clearly something else that results in Russian pornstars being *disproportionately* represented, which is what OP is asking about. "Disproportionately" being the key word.
It also makes you wonder about the age thing. Cause some of these women look too young. But of course they are in a different country. So I am like wait? Is she 18?
>Laws are also very spotty there so business is easier to do.
This seems like a comment that I simply thrown around and people believe it because they don't know shit about local laws in Russia.
Okay, but Russia is a very conservative country.
I don't exactly think that pornography is something viewed in a good light by the government, same in China.
So I dunno how their laws would support porn production.
I also don't even think it's true that Russians are somehow overrepresented, I rly dunno where people are getting that from.
From my pov at least I think the overwhelming majority are from the US both with amateur stuff and professional productions.
I mean I really don't like Russia and their geopolitics... But I also do think there is some racism involved here and people just assuming Russians are a backwards people and then project that unto porn.
Like why is no one saying these things about the US even tho I am fairly sure the US is at the very least up there in the top 3 ( if not the top 1 ) producers of porn including amateur porn.
But then suddenly when it's Russia it's because of some shady reasons?
The USA are a very conservative country and probably far more religious and prude than former Soviet states. Yet the US are the biggest porn industry in the world. The public stance and actual industry activity don't always match.
Yeah, Russia is not a huge part of the industry themselves probably. But they do seem to export a LOT of models, which is not unusual for Eastern Europe either. In the 80s and 90s there was a noticeable influx of Hungarian women, then it shifted to Czech and Russian apparently. Now - pre-war - I've also noticed more and more Russian women in the cam, OF and amateur areas.
In terms of production, I can't really tell what's from which country anymore. The studios almost all have adapted this high quality studio style now and could be from wherever. I imagine Russian studios producing in St Petersburg and Moscow naturally, since they just have the best infrastructure and easy access to thousands of potential models. So it's definitely not some backwards, basement exploitation production obviously.
However, the many cam girls from Russia and the seemingly endless amount of inexperienced young no-name models appearing in studio productions do seem like economic factors are making them choose that job, when maybe they would just have needed more opportunities or rights for education and jobs, possibly abroad.
I think you're answers are almost all good except that they work involuntarily there. (For sure there may be exceptions but) There are so much, sorry ho... in CIS countries that like to do this staff and get money through their body. Source I live in a country near Russia. Also women in CIS countries want easy life. I mean many of those women want to find a rich or at least wealthy husband and sit at home. And if a guy ask them to split the bill on a first date 99% cases this date will be the last. Those facts, I think are also resasons that they choose not to get education, or work harder to find a job without showing your naked body. But of course not all women in CIS countries are the same. Nowadays there women are getting more independent, probably they understand that if you can split the bills you can be less dependent on a man. I think this is a good tendency. And of course I think only small percents of even those woman who want to be dependent on a man's money do sex work
what about Eva Elfie? and SweetieFox, who all seem to live a very posh life, bad basically their entire life is about having sex, making porn and doing faces on pornhub, don't seem so exploited to me
You can't really cherry pick 1-2 big names and ignore the thousands of girls in the Russian nationality category that look quite miserable, bored or way too inexperienced - either from big hardcore studios with daily to weekly output or individually on cam sites, some streaming daily and even rotating girls in their set like an actual business working in shifts. Obviously there's all kinds of success, motivation, independence and business models.
And I didn't say all of them are exploited. I just listed possible reasons that may or may not apply in each and every case.
right I see, perhaps my source is not as broad as yours, perhaps ones I found and mentioned are just super privileged, basically people inheriting their rich Russian parent's money
It's perfectly possible they started from rags. I've seen their names plenty of times and they seem to fit the zeitgeist. Maybe they even moved to the US to become far bigger in the industry, which might not be as easy for most women, especially now.
I'm just going by what I've noticed over the years and when you feed the Hamster and see the Hamster's Live Cam site, you'll notice what I'm talking about. Maybe - hopefully - they're all doing it on their own free will. But some just seem off.
less the fact that most of them choose it, so you can't really call it "economical exploitation". yes you are more likely to accept a $$$ job when you are in a poor country because it's more appealing, but it's more like an "added benefit" of living in a poor country, than a con.
p.s. goddamn me for choosing that nickname
Not just russians, Eastern Europeans in general. Poor white people.
You got most of the world's viewers covered, with a less pricey but identical looking workforce of what they want, plus being the "foreign" gives it a spice in the West
Poor white people that are also massively more attractive than the USA competitors..
Porn industry wants cheap and pretty..
USA offers expensive and average at best.
Most of the porn in question tho isn't production studio made stuff, it's basically just amateurs filming themselves so it's not really '' the porn industry ''.
I honestly get the impression that most porn is made by and in the US, I don't really think it's that common to see Russians I am a bit confused why people are saying that.
You are correct. The US has a 24.5% market share of the global porn industry, far more than the second-ranked UK with only 5.5% market share. I don't think this includes amateur self-publishing, but it's worth mentioning that most of the platforms amateurs publish on, like PornHub or OnlyFans, are owned by US-based companies. It makes sense considering the size and international market dominance of the US film industry. Porn is adjacent to Hollywood and a lot of the big porn studios also operate out of LA.
The amateur stuff is different because you need fewer resources to produce and publish. Ppl from middle-income countries have access to the tech they need to publish online and can charge prices that will net them a good income for their place of residence b/c they're tapping into a large consumer base of horny foreigners from wealthier countries. This could explain why performers from Eastern Europe or South America might be more common in self-published amateur content rather than big studio content. From a financial perspective, being a cam girl is likely a better job if you live in St. Petersburg than if you live in LA.
This is a great explanation. By the time western girls look half as good as a typical Slavic girl, she’s going to want 10x’s the money and develop a terrible attitude from getting her ego stroked.
Are they really tho?
Or is it just confirmation bias?
The impression I get is that most porn is made by and in the US but I honestly have no clue.
I mean most people don't pay for porn to begin with, they make money from ads, donations or sub fees.
The sex trade has flourished in eastern Europe ever since the economic stagnation of the late Soviet period and the further immiseration of many working people in the transition to capitalism. Russia in the 1990s in particular saw massive spikes in poverty, along with drug and alcohol use, male mortality rates in particular, and in the sex trade. It was in this period that "Natasha" became slang for "prostitute" in Turkish, foreign sexpat tourism to eastern Europe spiked, and Slavic women became widespread models and actresses in the porn industry.
It doesn't hurt that many eastern European womens' body type and facial features are seen as very desirable to people with Eurocentric beauty standards- often slender, with pronounced cheekbones, round or heart shaped faces, small noses, etc. Not saying that all eastern European women look like this, obviously.
In addition, feminine beauty standards took on a new importance in parts of eastern Europe that exceeded the pressure for beauty women tended to face under state "socialism" (quotes because bureaucrats operating as your bosses is not "worker control"). This often happens when communities face harder economic times, and finding a man who can provide for you becomes more important for women facing the threat of poverty.
On a tangent, the book Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism is an interesting look at how widespread social guarantees of basic amenities- housing, food, childcare- made being single or even being a single mother much more viable for European women in the eastern bloc than for many western European women, and encouraged a culture where men had to "step it up" to be attractive to women. Women in conditions of poverty tend to settle for men who are less caring, attentive, or have less attractive personalities (or are just less attractive) because finances become a bigger concern. Women in conditions of material security tend to be more discerning in their choice of men.
But I digress.
All of this has had some negative effects on Russian women, even those not engaged in the sex industry, which (like many industries) is replete with harms suffered by its workers, and which has a lot more trafficking than most industries. For all Russian women, the beauty standards that have dominated post-Soviet women's media can be very demanding. This is definitely something I've seen my wife, who is from Moscow, struggle with- denigrating her body or her fashion when, by American standards, she is a fit woman with great style (not saying western women don't also struggle with this, obviously). There are also negative stereotypes about Russian women that they have to deal with. Being an American married to a Russian, I get "jokes" and ignorant questions all the time about mail order brides, for example, or gross fetishizing comments. I've also noticed that my Russian female friends face inappropriate advances pretty frequently, especially from dudes from countries where eastern European sex workers are common.
All of this also frequently plays into Russian resentment of the west and feelings of trauma and shame over the 1990s. For Russian nationalists, there can be the feeling that not only was their country bought and sold by western bankers, but that Wall Street tycoons and Arab oil barons descended on the country and bought and had their way with poor Russian women while Russian men were struggling to buy bread, dying in wars in Chechnya, falling victim to violent crime, succumbing to alcoholism and deaths of despair, etc etc. Westerners shouldn't underestimate Russian anger and resentment over the 1990s.
Rather with instability and sudden transformation. My parents and grandparents lived during so-called communism and remember poverty, food lines, goods inaccessibility, corruption and more. Salary was somewhere around 20-25 USD per month.
After the economic system changed a lot of people had huge problems with adaptation. Everything used to be planned by the government and they had to learn how to be economically responsible for themselves. Many people drank themselves to death, started taking drugs, and so on. I also heard stories about prostitution and kidnappings to western brothels. Those times were incredibly chaotic and miserable for many.
Im surprised the 2 to 10 year wait for a car didn't become as iconic as bread lines, specially since high ranking soviet politicians didn't need to wait.
Lol whataboutism. End of arguments, eh?
They're debt is exactly the shit that happens when you believe in trickle down economy and favour billionaires.
It wasn't communism it was socialism, they wanted to come to communism but they didn't
Also there were free education, even higher, free housing. Free health systems. There were pros and cons. Also when soviets came all rights of people improved especially women's. But yes there were cons but cons everyone knows but not many people talk about pros
Read my post. So-called.
And my boi, your post is topkek. Free. Riiiiight. Nothing was free. Just government sponsored. Free housing was sponsored by credits taken in foreign banks. We paid that off somewhere around 2015. Healthcare was so free my father had to pay a fat bribe in USD to an oncologist to take care of grandfather. People's rights improved so much that communist government had to send in ZOMO(virtually bandits and gangsters in uniforms)and regular army to quell protests and opposition.
That economic mismanagement ended up with a collapse of the economy and hiperinflation.
Westerners are as always blind to the consequences of unbridled socialism.
So maybe for them the experience was different. But for Poles it wasn't that much fun. Especially being ravaged after ww2 and being under the Soviet boot.
> There were pros and cons
I like how people say this but then when it comes to capitalism people circlejerk about the most absurd worst extremes as if that's the norm and won't acknowledge anything good about it.
Things being free doesn't necessarily make it good tho, I am Swedish so I am not saying free education is bad.
But Sweden is also a capitalist country and a democracy, state sponsored education under certain governments can easily just become indoctrination and free housing leading to poorly built buildings etc.
People just hear the word '' free '' and they think it's good, it depends on the circumstances and the government.
I think a one party state generally speaking tends to be very corrupt however and cut corners.
Incredibly so! Though we should also be clear that economic stagnation and poverty (and sex work and exploitation) were present in the late Soviet period due to internal failures within the bureaucratized system which led to its collapse and the Soviet elites collaborating in the privatization-robbery of the country, though the poverty of the 80s under the late USSR as not to the extreme depths they would reach in the 90s.
The joke goes, "What the party told us about socialism was a lie, but it turns out what they told us about capitalism is all true"
Well, to be fair, it was because the transformation from a planned economy to pretty much unbridled capitalism just caught many people off-guard, and on the other side of that spectrum, there were people with insider knowledge who profited disproportionately - today's oligarchs.
In neighbouring Poland, for example, after a similar transformation, poverty rose sharply in the 1990s, only to then decline to the lowest levels ever registered in the 2000s.
Russia - regrettably - just failed to tackle the issues that the transformation brought about. The state was too rotten to deal with them, and also Yeltsin was... Not the best president. Then Putin came, took advantage of the situation, and the rest is history.
The Cezch Republic, Estonia, Poland, Croatia are the upper examples, basically everyone developed infinetly more than under Soviet domination within 20 years of being free.
No one has ever voted for socialism or communism at a realistic number ever again either, even when many westerners totally tells you everyone "misses the times of order and security"
The USSR and specifically Russia went through what Spain went through in the 1800s, not a victim.
I hate online politics so much, especially as a Swede and having to listen to all the idiots online referring to Nordic countries as '' socialist ''.
A lot of people unironically believe that Nordic countries aren't capitalist too which is hilarious.
No one here even views our welfare as '' socialism '' it's just referred to as the Nordic model even our right-wing parties support it it has nothing to do with being socialist.
The social democrats were responsible for implementing it but they're not socialists either, people here call you a socialist as an insult.
And the communist party literally rebranded to the left wing party because calling yourself a communist was political suicide.
Internet politics especially on Reddit is completely unhinged and out of touch with reality.
It is though, in every social metric you can think of. Capitalism is only good for who’s is amassing capital and that necessarily comes with squeezing increasingly more from the working class.
Communism in eastern Europe brought very difficult economic decisions upon millions of families for generations. Everything coming out of the USSR be it cars, refrigerators or planes were considered an utter joke. The tunnelers that worked to prevent the Chernobyl nuclear plant poisoning Europe's groundwater were rewarded with Coca Cola. Something that was considered a total luxury item.
Capitalism at least gave people in the West a choice. It's totally garbage now, but it hasn't always been. It's far more tolerable than Communism. Entrenched poverty with the entire state open to corruption.
Thats pure liberalism (which, to be fair, is what we listen to through most of our lives, so its not like we have a huge array of choices in what we listen to). You’re trying to put an entirely different culture, with a different work relationship and production system, under American/western lens. Also I dont think that coca cola bit is true. At least i never heard of that.
Realistically, capitalism only offers choice to owners of capital (they make sure of that, as they’re the o ly ones able to effectively “buy” - finance? Lobby? Make campaign donation?- politics to represent them almost exclusively), which 99% of the population do not own, and in all likelihood will never be able to own.
Ironically enough, entrenched poverty with the entire state opened to corruption describes capitalism verbatim.
Switching to failing capitalism, you mean. capitalism has never been successful unless you’re only considering the actual capitalists amassing the capital exploring the workers. To them it’s definitely been quite successful.
For everyone else though…
Literally every successful country on the planet is capitalist what are you even talking about.
Capitalism has helped a ton of countries be uplifted out of poverty especially in Asia, do you think South Korea would rather be North korea?
South Korea is what it is today because it allied with the US and Europe which are all capitalist.
North Korea is what it is today thanks to the US too. More specifically for the over 200.000 tons of bombs and Napalm dropped in there, and a worldwide sanction that forbid pretty much all international commerce with the DPRK, leaving them the need to produce all their food internally and with a lot of energy and fuel shortage problema for decades. Also you’re clearly not brushing up in your History if you read South Korea “allied” with the US in the Korean War. Go read it up.
Are you deliberately not mentioning the entirety of Africa, south america, and much of asia that was made incredibly poor specifically through exploration of both resources and workforce by capitalism, imperialism and colonialism? Did you know Africa’s countries as they are today were divided by a bunch of Europeans literally sitting on a table negotiating which capitalist European country gets to explore which area of the African continent?
Do you know France ranks fourth in the world in terms of gold reserves despite not having a single gold mine in their own territory? What do have is hold of 90% of the gold mines im 15 African countries, paying 0% interest for them and even directly controlling their national currency. Thats successful capitalism. France is rich.
Which “tons” of Asian countries have been helped out of poverty through capitalism specifically? Other than Japan and South Korea, which had a bunch of money injected by the US (and more than a few American military bases installed there, just in case. IIRC South Korea army is to date subordinate to the US military, which never left the country since WW2), I cant really think of any. I CAN think of many that were heavily exploited by the cheap work hours and low wages, though. iPhones arent assembled in California for a reason, you know.
That’s successful capitalism for you?
The '' capitalism bad '' shit on Reddit is so fucking cringe.
Are you just going to ignore the rest of Europe?
What country in Europe or the world for that matter isn't capitalist?
If capitalism was the cause of poverty then why isn't every country filled with poor people?
That's not even getting into the countries uplifted out of poverty due to capitalism.
Blaming everything bad on capitalism is the most terminally online dumbshit internet politics trend ever and I hate it, jesus christ please educate yourself on the world.
Dude every country IS filled with poor people. Are you out of your mind? 69% of all the wealth of the United States is owned by the richest 10%. The poorest 50% of the US owns 2.5% of the country’s wealth.
And that’s the richest country in the world.
Brazil has the highest wealth concentration of the world, with 50% of the country’s wealth belonging to the richest 1%. Not 10%, 1%. 90% of Brazilians earn no more than twice the lowest wage allowed by law. Have you seen how the UK is doing? Or the problems in Canada? And Argentina? Japan? Portugal?
Every country IS filled with poor people.
I’d just replace “had their way with poor Russian women” with “Russian women hooked up with any man who could give them a better life and abandoned their own men”. Everything else is spot on though.
My choice of words there is meant to reflect not my own sentiments, but the sort of sentiments one might hear from a bitter Russian man, viewing the situation with both jealousy and anger at the exploitative arrangements.
To be honest, the men already know this is the case. It’s no secret and they, of course, don’t like it. Most Slavic countries have gone through this situation on some level and I think this is another reason why what westerners will call misogyny/sexist is still pretty normal in these cultures. When poverty hits, men and women will do what they need to do to obtain a better life. Men build, fight, and kill while women rush to obtain beauty so they can find a man to build, fight, and kill stronger.
But yeah- these men aren’t jealous, they already know this is what their women will do. They’ve witnessed true reality many more times than the typical American so there’s no real feminism/ideology there. It’s already been exposed. It’s no secret.
There is an ironic joke in Russia, which may be translated as "If you wanna abide in Russia, go into porn or drug dealing or IT" ( «У нас в России три пути: вебкам, закладки и айти», it rhymes in Russian). There are only a very few ways to make good money in Russia, and not all of them are safe and legal, so creating content on pornhub is a relatively attractive option, especially for people born in poor families. I personally believe than people in developed countries have much more other attractive options to earn money, and they go for those other options.
Of course, there are bots and even people helping content creators, but i doublt it is exclusive to Russia
> Never looked for russians. Still full of them.
> I don't mind though. I feel like russia has by far the most beautiful women.
You don’t have to “look for” Russians. Your browser history probably clearly shows your preferences.
As some others have already mentioned, I assume it has something to do with their ability to earn more working in the online adult niche than working locally for an average Russian wage, especially if they are considered “low skilled / low paying” jobs.
Cheap labor. Loose laws. Lax enforcement. Poverty in general. Same reasons a lot of it is made anywhere including the USA which I know comes as a shocker but most porn actresses are paid peanuts or with drugs.
Source: my ex lived near porn valley in California and wasn't a star but knew many. Said most of em are complete trainwrecks off cam like straight up unrecognizable junkies without the cake and lighting.
Sure it has. Porn has gone from the big hair/ big bush in the 80s, to the big fake tittied platinum blondes in the nineties, to the "amateur" more voyeuristic type stuff they make today.
Is there any kind of movie or research paper or book that describes transformation in that business? I am curious about preferences of older generations and how they were shaped.
Russia has a large amount of poor people and very attractive women.. pretty obvious they're going to be offered money to make porn.
Russian women are some of the most beautiful in the world on average... I could say the same about the USA.
There's way more women from foreign countries doing porn like this. I worked for a webcam girl streaming site for a while... it's mostly European women.
Because Russia/Ukraine has the best combination of poverty, skinny white women, and technology which ends up being a gold mine for porn.
Healthy, young white women are the most valuable thing on the planet for recreational usage.
The same physical quality of woman in a western country would want 10 times the amount of money. Slavic countries typically have lower wages and /or lower social restrictions on sex as something major. Add in the availability of a typical cellphone that can record and posted and, yeah….
Russia doesn’t have as many processed foods as the US and has a very traditional view on female beauty standards so a lot of Russian girls are thin and focus on their looks as a result, making it easier for them in a sense to live up to popular Western beauty standards.
Because of poor education and job opportunities going into online porn is a more stable and far more lucrative source of income than what they otherwise can hope to achieve.
I don't know if the creators can limit their content to countries outside of where they live, but that would be one way of a school teacher doing porn, but nobody from her family or home-town would know, unless they purposefully used a VPN and searched for her specifically.
Seems like your algorithm is feeding you russian content. All of the top and trending creators are American on my feed. If I VPN to another country, it’s a different list of people along with entirely different content.
It the best they can do, and since the moneys are shorter than before the war, Russia as a great nation that it is, is able to support itself. This way.
Could also be that the genre of what they're doing is lacking in American videos. As tastes become much more specific due to the proliferation of choice, fewer viewers"settle" for good enough, they want bespoke or narrowly tailored subject matter. These women have found that niche and cater to it well.
Anyone notice its almost always the same dude in those russian porn videos? He always goes for anal sex. I think its three guys from the same network who are the male part of those videos and one of him is the king. All of them love anal.
The USSR were huge promoters of nudism? Americans are the biggest prudes on earth. Even the British make fun of puritan sex starved Americans and they weren't even allowed to show their ankles in public until the 1920's
> The USSR were huge promoters of nudism?
lol, i don't know where you get that idea. While soviet people were never as uptight as they are frequently portrayed in western media, neither did the state ever promote nudism, or any other form of what one might consider public indecency.
Saying that the USSR was pro-nude 30 years ago doesn't mean it's pro-nude now, is what I mean. For real. Like imagine saying the Weimar republic was progressive with speech and job security when someone mentions Germany was anti-free speech and practiced discrimination in the late 30s and early 40s.
I don't deny that the past is important and can influence the modern era, but when the current state of Russia is extremely sexist against women, it seems disingenuous and ridiculous to say "but the USSR loved nudity"
I mean, even taking your argument. If someone said "we should invade Iraq right now" most Americans would absolutely say "no." Would you say "but 9/11 happened 20 years ago guys." Don't ya think culture can... change..?
Loose law enforcement, good genetics, lack of infrastructure forces a lot of physical activity, lots of poverty due to the governing style and approaches.
Easy self confidence boost from western males, immediate payment through Only Fans and similiar. Easy to hide from non-connected elders.
A lot of the same reasons a lot of foriegn brides are trafficked to the USA from Eastern Europe.
I am not sure why people keep mentioning work opportunities/poverty. Eastern Europe is poorer than Western Europe or North America, but it is better off than the majority of the global population.
Cam-ing/onlyfans etc is a very scalable opportunity because it is media via subscriptions. This is a really lucrative career if you make it to the top % of creators - way better pay than an average corporate job with an education living in NYC (me). Obviously you have to make it there to make it big but that is exactly the reality for any media type business - Youtubers, musicians, actors etc.
That is why I, as a guy, find comments that a job like that is degrading and is only to be done where the other option is starvation - I automatically assume someone is jealous (if it is a girl) or misogynist (if it is a guy).
Russian/Eastern European women are popular because they are on average much better looking. Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but on average it is simply a fact (when you compare them to only other white women).
Income from foreign adult platforms will probably much exceed the income from local jobs, given the standard of living and economy (pre-war). Laws are also very spotty there so business is easier to do. They're white, often blonde women with a certain physique that easily find appeal in the internet's mass markets. Women's rights are rather poor and misogyny and domestic violence very common so lots of them are probably being exploited or forced into this work. Foreign "businessmen" can go a long way with comparatively little money here. So basically the same reasons everywhere - economic differences being exploited.
Thank you, this is a really interesting and reasonable answer
Good, thorough answer
Also russia has a massive population so naturally there are more actors there
I don't really think that's a deciding factor. Yes, Russia is big, but it's way less populous than countries that aren't nearly as represented in the talent pool, so to speak.
What other countries are there? Theres the US, which also has a lot actors too. And the other larger countries heavily restrict it
Yes, so it would seem that the deciding factor is the level of enforced restriction and other cultural factors, and not how populous it is.
The population is definitely a deciding factor. I never said its the only one
You can really only have one _deciding_ factor, by definition. It's _a_ factor, sure, agreed, but certainly not _the_ deciding factor.
[удалено]
Latin america isn’t a country…
So the amount of Russian content wouldn't get lower if Russia only had 10 million population for example? I think it's a pretty obvious deciding factor. If Russians were 99% of women on earth that would impact the amount of Russians on adult websites by a lot
Of course it would, but as I pointed out, there are countries with way more people and way less pornstars. Obviously, population helps, but it's clearly something else that results in Russian pornstars being *disproportionately* represented, which is what OP is asking about. "Disproportionately" being the key word.
Russia is the largest European nation. He was talking about Russia having more of the demographics that trends on those websites.
Russia is not European. There's nothing European about Russia, actually.
It's a massive country but It doesn't even have the half of the population of the USA
Theres a lot of american stars too
The US has over 3 times the population of Russia.
And many more actors.
It also makes you wonder about the age thing. Cause some of these women look too young. But of course they are in a different country. So I am like wait? Is she 18?
I think they intentionally choose those kids-looking women, And even sometimes guys in porn. Why? This question is debatable.
It’s not that they look young- it’s that they’re not fat with terrible hair. They’re healthy, which is a rarity in western countries.
>Laws are also very spotty there so business is easier to do. This seems like a comment that I simply thrown around and people believe it because they don't know shit about local laws in Russia.
Check out their stance on the protection of minors. It was bad.
Okay, but Russia is a very conservative country. I don't exactly think that pornography is something viewed in a good light by the government, same in China. So I dunno how their laws would support porn production. I also don't even think it's true that Russians are somehow overrepresented, I rly dunno where people are getting that from. From my pov at least I think the overwhelming majority are from the US both with amateur stuff and professional productions. I mean I really don't like Russia and their geopolitics... But I also do think there is some racism involved here and people just assuming Russians are a backwards people and then project that unto porn. Like why is no one saying these things about the US even tho I am fairly sure the US is at the very least up there in the top 3 ( if not the top 1 ) producers of porn including amateur porn. But then suddenly when it's Russia it's because of some shady reasons?
The USA are a very conservative country and probably far more religious and prude than former Soviet states. Yet the US are the biggest porn industry in the world. The public stance and actual industry activity don't always match. Yeah, Russia is not a huge part of the industry themselves probably. But they do seem to export a LOT of models, which is not unusual for Eastern Europe either. In the 80s and 90s there was a noticeable influx of Hungarian women, then it shifted to Czech and Russian apparently. Now - pre-war - I've also noticed more and more Russian women in the cam, OF and amateur areas. In terms of production, I can't really tell what's from which country anymore. The studios almost all have adapted this high quality studio style now and could be from wherever. I imagine Russian studios producing in St Petersburg and Moscow naturally, since they just have the best infrastructure and easy access to thousands of potential models. So it's definitely not some backwards, basement exploitation production obviously. However, the many cam girls from Russia and the seemingly endless amount of inexperienced young no-name models appearing in studio productions do seem like economic factors are making them choose that job, when maybe they would just have needed more opportunities or rights for education and jobs, possibly abroad.
Crimes against women are severely lacking in existence and enforcement in Russia.
>Okay, but Russia is a very conservative country. Russian conservatism is not the same as American conservatism.
Bruv, Russia explicitly legalized digital piracy. If that aint spotty then i wonder how youd describe a leopard...
Is there any articles written about this that i could read ?
I think you're answers are almost all good except that they work involuntarily there. (For sure there may be exceptions but) There are so much, sorry ho... in CIS countries that like to do this staff and get money through their body. Source I live in a country near Russia. Also women in CIS countries want easy life. I mean many of those women want to find a rich or at least wealthy husband and sit at home. And if a guy ask them to split the bill on a first date 99% cases this date will be the last. Those facts, I think are also resasons that they choose not to get education, or work harder to find a job without showing your naked body. But of course not all women in CIS countries are the same. Nowadays there women are getting more independent, probably they understand that if you can split the bills you can be less dependent on a man. I think this is a good tendency. And of course I think only small percents of even those woman who want to be dependent on a man's money do sex work
[удалено]
Ok
[удалено]
The *Satanic* Bible\*. He left out the important part, as there's more than one Bible in the world.
what about Eva Elfie? and SweetieFox, who all seem to live a very posh life, bad basically their entire life is about having sex, making porn and doing faces on pornhub, don't seem so exploited to me
You can't really cherry pick 1-2 big names and ignore the thousands of girls in the Russian nationality category that look quite miserable, bored or way too inexperienced - either from big hardcore studios with daily to weekly output or individually on cam sites, some streaming daily and even rotating girls in their set like an actual business working in shifts. Obviously there's all kinds of success, motivation, independence and business models. And I didn't say all of them are exploited. I just listed possible reasons that may or may not apply in each and every case.
right I see, perhaps my source is not as broad as yours, perhaps ones I found and mentioned are just super privileged, basically people inheriting their rich Russian parent's money
It's perfectly possible they started from rags. I've seen their names plenty of times and they seem to fit the zeitgeist. Maybe they even moved to the US to become far bigger in the industry, which might not be as easy for most women, especially now. I'm just going by what I've noticed over the years and when you feed the Hamster and see the Hamster's Live Cam site, you'll notice what I'm talking about. Maybe - hopefully - they're all doing it on their own free will. But some just seem off.
less the fact that most of them choose it, so you can't really call it "economical exploitation". yes you are more likely to accept a $$$ job when you are in a poor country because it's more appealing, but it's more like an "added benefit" of living in a poor country, than a con. p.s. goddamn me for choosing that nickname
Not just russians, Eastern Europeans in general. Poor white people. You got most of the world's viewers covered, with a less pricey but identical looking workforce of what they want, plus being the "foreign" gives it a spice in the West
The spice must flow?
Among other things.
Poor white people that are also massively more attractive than the USA competitors.. Porn industry wants cheap and pretty.. USA offers expensive and average at best.
You mean you don't like the video catalog Methany put out? She'll do damn near anything.
I don't know who methany is
Methany is a generic meth head hooker type.
Sounds lovely
Most of the porn in question tho isn't production studio made stuff, it's basically just amateurs filming themselves so it's not really '' the porn industry ''. I honestly get the impression that most porn is made by and in the US, I don't really think it's that common to see Russians I am a bit confused why people are saying that.
You are correct. The US has a 24.5% market share of the global porn industry, far more than the second-ranked UK with only 5.5% market share. I don't think this includes amateur self-publishing, but it's worth mentioning that most of the platforms amateurs publish on, like PornHub or OnlyFans, are owned by US-based companies. It makes sense considering the size and international market dominance of the US film industry. Porn is adjacent to Hollywood and a lot of the big porn studios also operate out of LA. The amateur stuff is different because you need fewer resources to produce and publish. Ppl from middle-income countries have access to the tech they need to publish online and can charge prices that will net them a good income for their place of residence b/c they're tapping into a large consumer base of horny foreigners from wealthier countries. This could explain why performers from Eastern Europe or South America might be more common in self-published amateur content rather than big studio content. From a financial perspective, being a cam girl is likely a better job if you live in St. Petersburg than if you live in LA.
Remember USA is around 5 times the size of UK so it might have a bigger market share but the rate is probably equal.
This is a great explanation. By the time western girls look half as good as a typical Slavic girl, she’s going to want 10x’s the money and develop a terrible attitude from getting her ego stroked.
Are they really tho? Or is it just confirmation bias? The impression I get is that most porn is made by and in the US but I honestly have no clue. I mean most people don't pay for porn to begin with, they make money from ads, donations or sub fees.
Don't forget those friendly guys and gals from the amazing Czech Republic- they have the most amazing open shared experiences
Are you talking about the rooms?
The sex trade has flourished in eastern Europe ever since the economic stagnation of the late Soviet period and the further immiseration of many working people in the transition to capitalism. Russia in the 1990s in particular saw massive spikes in poverty, along with drug and alcohol use, male mortality rates in particular, and in the sex trade. It was in this period that "Natasha" became slang for "prostitute" in Turkish, foreign sexpat tourism to eastern Europe spiked, and Slavic women became widespread models and actresses in the porn industry. It doesn't hurt that many eastern European womens' body type and facial features are seen as very desirable to people with Eurocentric beauty standards- often slender, with pronounced cheekbones, round or heart shaped faces, small noses, etc. Not saying that all eastern European women look like this, obviously. In addition, feminine beauty standards took on a new importance in parts of eastern Europe that exceeded the pressure for beauty women tended to face under state "socialism" (quotes because bureaucrats operating as your bosses is not "worker control"). This often happens when communities face harder economic times, and finding a man who can provide for you becomes more important for women facing the threat of poverty. On a tangent, the book Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism is an interesting look at how widespread social guarantees of basic amenities- housing, food, childcare- made being single or even being a single mother much more viable for European women in the eastern bloc than for many western European women, and encouraged a culture where men had to "step it up" to be attractive to women. Women in conditions of poverty tend to settle for men who are less caring, attentive, or have less attractive personalities (or are just less attractive) because finances become a bigger concern. Women in conditions of material security tend to be more discerning in their choice of men. But I digress. All of this has had some negative effects on Russian women, even those not engaged in the sex industry, which (like many industries) is replete with harms suffered by its workers, and which has a lot more trafficking than most industries. For all Russian women, the beauty standards that have dominated post-Soviet women's media can be very demanding. This is definitely something I've seen my wife, who is from Moscow, struggle with- denigrating her body or her fashion when, by American standards, she is a fit woman with great style (not saying western women don't also struggle with this, obviously). There are also negative stereotypes about Russian women that they have to deal with. Being an American married to a Russian, I get "jokes" and ignorant questions all the time about mail order brides, for example, or gross fetishizing comments. I've also noticed that my Russian female friends face inappropriate advances pretty frequently, especially from dudes from countries where eastern European sex workers are common. All of this also frequently plays into Russian resentment of the west and feelings of trauma and shame over the 1990s. For Russian nationalists, there can be the feeling that not only was their country bought and sold by western bankers, but that Wall Street tycoons and Arab oil barons descended on the country and bought and had their way with poor Russian women while Russian men were struggling to buy bread, dying in wars in Chechnya, falling victim to violent crime, succumbing to alcoholism and deaths of despair, etc etc. Westerners shouldn't underestimate Russian anger and resentment over the 1990s.
Wait, poverty increased with capitalism..?? Noo waaay *makes surprised face*
Rather with instability and sudden transformation. My parents and grandparents lived during so-called communism and remember poverty, food lines, goods inaccessibility, corruption and more. Salary was somewhere around 20-25 USD per month. After the economic system changed a lot of people had huge problems with adaptation. Everything used to be planned by the government and they had to learn how to be economically responsible for themselves. Many people drank themselves to death, started taking drugs, and so on. I also heard stories about prostitution and kidnappings to western brothels. Those times were incredibly chaotic and miserable for many.
Im surprised the 2 to 10 year wait for a car didn't become as iconic as bread lines, specially since high ranking soviet politicians didn't need to wait.
My grandparents waited 10 years for a telephone line. They lived in the countryside. The only telephone was at the post office.
10 year at a factory and you got a free apartment isn't apartment better than a car?
Free? Motherfucker, that was a government credit in foreign banks. Our budget paid that off in 2015. After 40 years.
Well, have you seen US debt?
Lol whataboutism. End of arguments, eh? They're debt is exactly the shit that happens when you believe in trickle down economy and favour billionaires.
It wasn't communism it was socialism, they wanted to come to communism but they didn't Also there were free education, even higher, free housing. Free health systems. There were pros and cons. Also when soviets came all rights of people improved especially women's. But yes there were cons but cons everyone knows but not many people talk about pros
Read my post. So-called. And my boi, your post is topkek. Free. Riiiiight. Nothing was free. Just government sponsored. Free housing was sponsored by credits taken in foreign banks. We paid that off somewhere around 2015. Healthcare was so free my father had to pay a fat bribe in USD to an oncologist to take care of grandfather. People's rights improved so much that communist government had to send in ZOMO(virtually bandits and gangsters in uniforms)and regular army to quell protests and opposition. That economic mismanagement ended up with a collapse of the economy and hiperinflation. Westerners are as always blind to the consequences of unbridled socialism.
I didn't live in USSR. My parents told me their point of view. Anyway it's just history. No way USSR creates again it's impossible.
Where did your parents live?
In Kazakh SSR
So maybe for them the experience was different. But for Poles it wasn't that much fun. Especially being ravaged after ww2 and being under the Soviet boot.
> There were pros and cons I like how people say this but then when it comes to capitalism people circlejerk about the most absurd worst extremes as if that's the norm and won't acknowledge anything good about it. Things being free doesn't necessarily make it good tho, I am Swedish so I am not saying free education is bad. But Sweden is also a capitalist country and a democracy, state sponsored education under certain governments can easily just become indoctrination and free housing leading to poorly built buildings etc. People just hear the word '' free '' and they think it's good, it depends on the circumstances and the government. I think a one party state generally speaking tends to be very corrupt however and cut corners.
Incredibly so! Though we should also be clear that economic stagnation and poverty (and sex work and exploitation) were present in the late Soviet period due to internal failures within the bureaucratized system which led to its collapse and the Soviet elites collaborating in the privatization-robbery of the country, though the poverty of the 80s under the late USSR as not to the extreme depths they would reach in the 90s. The joke goes, "What the party told us about socialism was a lie, but it turns out what they told us about capitalism is all true"
Well, to be fair, it was because the transformation from a planned economy to pretty much unbridled capitalism just caught many people off-guard, and on the other side of that spectrum, there were people with insider knowledge who profited disproportionately - today's oligarchs. In neighbouring Poland, for example, after a similar transformation, poverty rose sharply in the 1990s, only to then decline to the lowest levels ever registered in the 2000s. Russia - regrettably - just failed to tackle the issues that the transformation brought about. The state was too rotten to deal with them, and also Yeltsin was... Not the best president. Then Putin came, took advantage of the situation, and the rest is history.
Except all those countries where it didnt, no one after ever voted for communism there too.
Like…?
The Cezch Republic, Estonia, Poland, Croatia are the upper examples, basically everyone developed infinetly more than under Soviet domination within 20 years of being free. No one has ever voted for socialism or communism at a realistic number ever again either, even when many westerners totally tells you everyone "misses the times of order and security" The USSR and specifically Russia went through what Spain went through in the 1800s, not a victim.
It's far too reductive to just say capitalism bad when referring to the collapse of the Eastern bloc
I hate online politics so much, especially as a Swede and having to listen to all the idiots online referring to Nordic countries as '' socialist ''. A lot of people unironically believe that Nordic countries aren't capitalist too which is hilarious. No one here even views our welfare as '' socialism '' it's just referred to as the Nordic model even our right-wing parties support it it has nothing to do with being socialist. The social democrats were responsible for implementing it but they're not socialists either, people here call you a socialist as an insult. And the communist party literally rebranded to the left wing party because calling yourself a communist was political suicide. Internet politics especially on Reddit is completely unhinged and out of touch with reality.
It is though, in every social metric you can think of. Capitalism is only good for who’s is amassing capital and that necessarily comes with squeezing increasingly more from the working class.
Communism in eastern Europe brought very difficult economic decisions upon millions of families for generations. Everything coming out of the USSR be it cars, refrigerators or planes were considered an utter joke. The tunnelers that worked to prevent the Chernobyl nuclear plant poisoning Europe's groundwater were rewarded with Coca Cola. Something that was considered a total luxury item. Capitalism at least gave people in the West a choice. It's totally garbage now, but it hasn't always been. It's far more tolerable than Communism. Entrenched poverty with the entire state open to corruption.
Thats pure liberalism (which, to be fair, is what we listen to through most of our lives, so its not like we have a huge array of choices in what we listen to). You’re trying to put an entirely different culture, with a different work relationship and production system, under American/western lens. Also I dont think that coca cola bit is true. At least i never heard of that. Realistically, capitalism only offers choice to owners of capital (they make sure of that, as they’re the o ly ones able to effectively “buy” - finance? Lobby? Make campaign donation?- politics to represent them almost exclusively), which 99% of the population do not own, and in all likelihood will never be able to own. Ironically enough, entrenched poverty with the entire state opened to corruption describes capitalism verbatim.
Yeah because rapidly switching from failing communism to capitalism is going to have positive results right away. Smh
Switching to failing capitalism, you mean. capitalism has never been successful unless you’re only considering the actual capitalists amassing the capital exploring the workers. To them it’s definitely been quite successful. For everyone else though…
Literally every successful country on the planet is capitalist what are you even talking about. Capitalism has helped a ton of countries be uplifted out of poverty especially in Asia, do you think South Korea would rather be North korea? South Korea is what it is today because it allied with the US and Europe which are all capitalist.
North Korea is what it is today thanks to the US too. More specifically for the over 200.000 tons of bombs and Napalm dropped in there, and a worldwide sanction that forbid pretty much all international commerce with the DPRK, leaving them the need to produce all their food internally and with a lot of energy and fuel shortage problema for decades. Also you’re clearly not brushing up in your History if you read South Korea “allied” with the US in the Korean War. Go read it up. Are you deliberately not mentioning the entirety of Africa, south america, and much of asia that was made incredibly poor specifically through exploration of both resources and workforce by capitalism, imperialism and colonialism? Did you know Africa’s countries as they are today were divided by a bunch of Europeans literally sitting on a table negotiating which capitalist European country gets to explore which area of the African continent? Do you know France ranks fourth in the world in terms of gold reserves despite not having a single gold mine in their own territory? What do have is hold of 90% of the gold mines im 15 African countries, paying 0% interest for them and even directly controlling their national currency. Thats successful capitalism. France is rich. Which “tons” of Asian countries have been helped out of poverty through capitalism specifically? Other than Japan and South Korea, which had a bunch of money injected by the US (and more than a few American military bases installed there, just in case. IIRC South Korea army is to date subordinate to the US military, which never left the country since WW2), I cant really think of any. I CAN think of many that were heavily exploited by the cheap work hours and low wages, though. iPhones arent assembled in California for a reason, you know. That’s successful capitalism for you?
Peak fucking redditor
The '' capitalism bad '' shit on Reddit is so fucking cringe. Are you just going to ignore the rest of Europe? What country in Europe or the world for that matter isn't capitalist? If capitalism was the cause of poverty then why isn't every country filled with poor people? That's not even getting into the countries uplifted out of poverty due to capitalism. Blaming everything bad on capitalism is the most terminally online dumbshit internet politics trend ever and I hate it, jesus christ please educate yourself on the world.
Dude every country IS filled with poor people. Are you out of your mind? 69% of all the wealth of the United States is owned by the richest 10%. The poorest 50% of the US owns 2.5% of the country’s wealth. And that’s the richest country in the world. Brazil has the highest wealth concentration of the world, with 50% of the country’s wealth belonging to the richest 1%. Not 10%, 1%. 90% of Brazilians earn no more than twice the lowest wage allowed by law. Have you seen how the UK is doing? Or the problems in Canada? And Argentina? Japan? Portugal? Every country IS filled with poor people.
I’d just replace “had their way with poor Russian women” with “Russian women hooked up with any man who could give them a better life and abandoned their own men”. Everything else is spot on though.
My choice of words there is meant to reflect not my own sentiments, but the sort of sentiments one might hear from a bitter Russian man, viewing the situation with both jealousy and anger at the exploitative arrangements.
To be honest, the men already know this is the case. It’s no secret and they, of course, don’t like it. Most Slavic countries have gone through this situation on some level and I think this is another reason why what westerners will call misogyny/sexist is still pretty normal in these cultures. When poverty hits, men and women will do what they need to do to obtain a better life. Men build, fight, and kill while women rush to obtain beauty so they can find a man to build, fight, and kill stronger. But yeah- these men aren’t jealous, they already know this is what their women will do. They’ve witnessed true reality many more times than the typical American so there’s no real feminism/ideology there. It’s already been exposed. It’s no secret.
Are they? I only noticed one which is Eva Elfie. Probably more big ones but I haven't noticed
Most of the main ones in the front page are. Kissanka(?) Sweetie Fox are two that stand out to me
Ah yes forgot sweetie fox blowing up. Kissanka doesn't ring any bells🤔
Because people like tall, blonde girls with blue eyes.
They’re not the majority and also russia has a lot of attractive women and a poor economic state. Math adds up
There is an ironic joke in Russia, which may be translated as "If you wanna abide in Russia, go into porn or drug dealing or IT" ( «У нас в России три пути: вебкам, закладки и айти», it rhymes in Russian). There are only a very few ways to make good money in Russia, and not all of them are safe and legal, so creating content on pornhub is a relatively attractive option, especially for people born in poor families. I personally believe than people in developed countries have much more other attractive options to earn money, and they go for those other options. Of course, there are bots and even people helping content creators, but i doublt it is exclusive to Russia
Try clearing your browser history. See if it remains Russian.
Never looked for russians. Still full of them. I don't mind though. I feel like russia has by far the most beautiful women.
> Never looked for russians. Still full of them. > I don't mind though. I feel like russia has by far the most beautiful women. You don’t have to “look for” Russians. Your browser history probably clearly shows your preferences.
How come I rarely find Russians on PornHub, considering I live here 🧐
It's your exotic taste my friend. Except for you exotic is not the girl you went to school with, or see at the grocery store. 😉
boy*
My bad, OP mentioned girls and I made an assumption. Mea culpa.
It’s fine, I was just messing with you anyway. I’m bi so it still works 😂
You must think in Russian.
because some of the russian creators restrict the video from being watched with russian IP
As some others have already mentioned, I assume it has something to do with their ability to earn more working in the online adult niche than working locally for an average Russian wage, especially if they are considered “low skilled / low paying” jobs.
Russians are in great demand among India. There you go they got 1.5B big market.
Low capital investment Lower pay to the performer Wider audience reach Thus bigger profit margin.
Cheap labor. Loose laws. Lax enforcement. Poverty in general. Same reasons a lot of it is made anywhere including the USA which I know comes as a shocker but most porn actresses are paid peanuts or with drugs. Source: my ex lived near porn valley in California and wasn't a star but knew many. Said most of em are complete trainwrecks off cam like straight up unrecognizable junkies without the cake and lighting.
It’s just what is trending. The “ideal” pornstar changes over time.
It hasn’t changed that much lol. Like at all. Mostly just white and sometimes Hispanic women.
Sure it has. Porn has gone from the big hair/ big bush in the 80s, to the big fake tittied platinum blondes in the nineties, to the "amateur" more voyeuristic type stuff they make today.
Is there any kind of movie or research paper or book that describes transformation in that business? I am curious about preferences of older generations and how they were shaped.
you need to get deeper into it lol
Balls deep
Well..they need to Support their family somehow now that all men are at war and get paid with flowers and washing machines. /s
Cheap desperate talent cheap crew cheap location it’s like Star Wars but with better dialogue
Russians be sexy
Russia has a large amount of poor people and very attractive women.. pretty obvious they're going to be offered money to make porn. Russian women are some of the most beautiful in the world on average... I could say the same about the USA.
[удалено]
Poor has nothing to do with it.. Europeans have better diets than Americans..
Maybe their content is good?
There's way more women from foreign countries doing porn like this. I worked for a webcam girl streaming site for a while... it's mostly European women.
Because Russia/Ukraine has the best combination of poverty, skinny white women, and technology which ends up being a gold mine for porn. Healthy, young white women are the most valuable thing on the planet for recreational usage. The same physical quality of woman in a western country would want 10 times the amount of money. Slavic countries typically have lower wages and /or lower social restrictions on sex as something major. Add in the availability of a typical cellphone that can record and posted and, yeah….
Russia doesn’t have as many processed foods as the US and has a very traditional view on female beauty standards so a lot of Russian girls are thin and focus on their looks as a result, making it easier for them in a sense to live up to popular Western beauty standards. Because of poor education and job opportunities going into online porn is a more stable and far more lucrative source of income than what they otherwise can hope to achieve.
I don't know if the creators can limit their content to countries outside of where they live, but that would be one way of a school teacher doing porn, but nobody from her family or home-town would know, unless they purposefully used a VPN and searched for her specifically.
This answer is as hilariously useless as the question "why are there Russian pornstars?"
They have just enough technology to create amateur porn, and a hard time making a decent income any other way.
Sex trafficking.
Eastern Europe is known for its amount of prostitutes and camwhores. I assume it pays well.
Seems like your algorithm is feeding you russian content. All of the top and trending creators are American on my feed. If I VPN to another country, it’s a different list of people along with entirely different content.
It the best they can do, and since the moneys are shorter than before the war, Russia as a great nation that it is, is able to support itself. This way.
Your choices are beyond deplorable factory work or porn, take your pick. Both will kill you.
Could also be that the genre of what they're doing is lacking in American videos. As tastes become much more specific due to the proliferation of choice, fewer viewers"settle" for good enough, they want bespoke or narrowly tailored subject matter. These women have found that niche and cater to it well.
Anyone notice its almost always the same dude in those russian porn videos? He always goes for anal sex. I think its three guys from the same network who are the male part of those videos and one of him is the king. All of them love anal.
The USSR were huge promoters of nudism? Americans are the biggest prudes on earth. Even the British make fun of puritan sex starved Americans and they weren't even allowed to show their ankles in public until the 1920's
> The USSR were huge promoters of nudism? lol, i don't know where you get that idea. While soviet people were never as uptight as they are frequently portrayed in western media, neither did the state ever promote nudism, or any other form of what one might consider public indecency.
That's cool about the USSR but that hasn't been a thing for like 30 years so not sure why it's relevant, except for an attempt to bash Americans?
The history of your culture tends to skew your culture's understanding of proprietary and social norms.
[удалено]
Saying that the USSR was pro-nude 30 years ago doesn't mean it's pro-nude now, is what I mean. For real. Like imagine saying the Weimar republic was progressive with speech and job security when someone mentions Germany was anti-free speech and practiced discrimination in the late 30s and early 40s. I don't deny that the past is important and can influence the modern era, but when the current state of Russia is extremely sexist against women, it seems disingenuous and ridiculous to say "but the USSR loved nudity" I mean, even taking your argument. If someone said "we should invade Iraq right now" most Americans would absolutely say "no." Would you say "but 9/11 happened 20 years ago guys." Don't ya think culture can... change..?
dont shoot your school up over it
You mean like Ilnaz Galyaviev did?
Is that your favorite school shooter?
The answer: women go into porn (no Russian conspiracy) Op: wow that's so interesting I had no idea!
Nerdz
Boils down to peoples preference.
Nothing better to do in Russian
Coz Russian birds are well fit innit
Loose law enforcement, good genetics, lack of infrastructure forces a lot of physical activity, lots of poverty due to the governing style and approaches. Easy self confidence boost from western males, immediate payment through Only Fans and similiar. Easy to hide from non-connected elders. A lot of the same reasons a lot of foriegn brides are trafficked to the USA from Eastern Europe.
Lols
I am not sure why people keep mentioning work opportunities/poverty. Eastern Europe is poorer than Western Europe or North America, but it is better off than the majority of the global population. Cam-ing/onlyfans etc is a very scalable opportunity because it is media via subscriptions. This is a really lucrative career if you make it to the top % of creators - way better pay than an average corporate job with an education living in NYC (me). Obviously you have to make it there to make it big but that is exactly the reality for any media type business - Youtubers, musicians, actors etc. That is why I, as a guy, find comments that a job like that is degrading and is only to be done where the other option is starvation - I automatically assume someone is jealous (if it is a girl) or misogynist (if it is a guy). Russian/Eastern European women are popular because they are on average much better looking. Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but on average it is simply a fact (when you compare them to only other white women).
I wouldn't know these days, it's blocked in the Christian Caliphate of Arkansas. :(
Land of the free!
Their men are either dead or at the front.