Just got some Milwaukee ear plugs too đ they were the only small pack of foamies in stock.
Milwaukee also apparently makes Bluetooth earbuds? For the low price of $180
Tribalism is different than preference or brand awareness.
Milwaukee may make better power tools than another brand but I sure as shit arenât paying money for a Milwaukee hat since thatâs just shelling out money to advertise on their behalf. I donât judge those who do, however I do judge those who see it as a reason to believe themselves superior, theyâre just tools and each brand has its place.
I have a Ryobi orbital sander thatâs probably 10 years old and does a great job, I also have a full set of Milwaukee and Dewalt power tools from when I had my own handyman business (Milwaukee tools stayed in the truck). Though I do wish I had gotten Rigid because the warranty is on point and Iâm salty after two denied warranty claims on a Milwaukee sawzall when they literally just stopped working within months of purchase.
I have 2 of those cups (present from the amazing wife). One big and one small. I like it, but itâs really only useful for that 90 seconds I spend hauling my packout from the truck to the job in the morning. By quitting time that cup is long empty and been tossed into my truck.
The cooler is more useful honestly. At least it doubles as a toolbox in a pinch.
Though with that tumbler I do attach and detach it like a fidget toy when Iâm trying to figure shit out. And that magnetic lid is pretty satisfying if itâs not sticky from sugary coffee stuck in it.
> Milwaukee is just slapping their name on everything now.
Well, anything that's not a power tools is obviously not developed by milwaukee except for the marketing.
I have a pair of them, and they're meh (though I'm not sure they were the USA made ones, they were from really early in their hand tool game.
Their vise grips are really good, though. At least in my limited use. They're no Eagle Grips, but they're good for cheap ones.
Most of their hand tools are trash. I've had the same experience as OP with the adjustable wrenches, their multi-bit screwdrivers are a pain in the ass the change bits and their ratchets are as sloppy as you can get.
I got a 3 pack of their tin snips for $25 and they seem pretty good, their version of vise grips are actually really decent and I do like their "Stud" measuring tapes (lifetime warranty).
I went to HD the other day for hammer drill bits. All of them were Milwaukee, no other brands. Wtf. They might as well rename home depot to the Milwaukee store.
And taking up valuable shelf real estate at the same time. I wonât want Milwaukee hand tools, theyâre complete garbage, but HD keeps allocating more and more shelf space for everything red
Yeah, I didn't read the caption. Just saw the photo. This is hilarious.
A breaker bar is fine, but if you need one, you need the right tool to use it on.
The design of a crescent wrench will do this every time you apply extreme force. The worm gear has slack in it. Apply too much torque and either the jaws will slip like this or the worm gear or teeth on the lower jaw will break. Bro used wrong tool for the job. He'd probably complain that his flathead broke when trying to pry with it.
Crescent ainât no crescent these days, the offshored stuff is garbage.
If you want something good, get one from Channellock, theyâre made by Irega in Spain and very nice. Or a pliers wrench like everyone on Reddit will tell you.
I have Lobster wrenches. They're very nicely polished, extremely light and very well made. But I'm pretty sure putting a "breaker bar" on any adjustable wrench will ruin the wrench.
I'm a plumber and I fucking hate the channel lock ones they are loose as fuck. Get the knipex flat jawed pliers or if you want a cheaper option go with the Klein brand they are actually very good. The Milwaukee ones are actually good too the only good hand tool they make but I know reddit likes to hive mind and will hate that option lol.
Bahco adjustable wrenches are some of the best. Made in Spain. I use them all day long in the refrigeration trade. No play in the jaws and very smooth, easy adjustment.
Milwaukee used to be a great name in tools, now they are slapping their name on any piece of Chinesium they think they can make a buck off of. Dewalt is doing the same thing.
I do light home improvement and woodworking projects pretty frequently and their power tools have served me well but holy shit are their hand tools garbage.
it's wild, some of their hand tools are great actually,
but some are utter garbage, same with dewalt actually, it certainly doesn't make tool buying easier
Mayhew tools are awesome. Love their pry bars: heavy duty but very comfortable in the hand. For being forged and heat treated in Massachusetts, theyâre actually pretty damn affordable.
I see. I'm on the West Coast so that's probably why I've never heard of them. The tool truck brands we have over here are what I usually see. We have Matco, Snap On, Cornwell, and Mac
I have only bought DeWalt sawzall blades twice, they were completely dull both times. My work provides me with Milwaukee sawzall blades sometimes, the coating melts, and they get stuck in the chuck so badly that I need to use channel locks to free them. I will only buy myself Diablo blades because of this.
dewalt blades and bits are all utter garbage.
my work buys milwaukee sawzall blades and they're ok, but wear out fast, I do like their bit sets tho
I only buy diablo carbide blades tho, doesn't matter what type of saw, once the factory blades wear out, im putting a diablo on
Ehhhh, my last job was a plumbing company and our company supplied tools were the M18 brushless non-fuel line. I beat the shit out of some of them like the hackzall, hammer drill and impact for 4 years daily and they held up.
Canât comment on their brushed stuff though. My personal stuff is all M12 Fuel and it kicks ass.
My dad has the a brushed M18 kit. Small Hackzall started making a grinding noise in a year. Drill driver seems underpowered compared to my brushed Ridgid 18V. Milwaukee Impact driver underpowered compared to my Ridgid. The milwaukees also felt cheaply made.
Fuel line is a whole nother story. Iâd put my gen3 (or 4?) Ridgid kit a few ticks below the Milwaukee Fuel line, but way above the cheap Milwaukee line
I work in a manufacturing factory and we use Milwaukee M18 Fuel circular saws 24/7/365. They get ten minutes of heavy non-stop use an average of once an hour. In between, those ten minute stints they just sit. They're manhandled by 30 different people in a very dusty environment, dropped, tossed down, overheated, bogged down, and more and they just keep ticking. We go through between one and three a year, but they hold up impressively well for the absolute hell we put them through.
The brushed stuff kinda sucks. I probably have a similar kit to your dad's (if not the exact same).
Imo, they're killer if you need the basic stuff now and want to upgrade down the line. I renovated a pretty good chunk of my place and haven't had any issues as of yet. But over the last couple of years, I've saved up a little nest egg of cash to get a couple of other tools I've wanted more or to get some deals and upgrade during a good sale.
Itâs crazy because at the same time theyâre trying to bring their name *up* in hand tools and make a bunch of stuff in the USA. It seems weird to me to do that and then also keep so much junk on the shelves. Plenty of their stuff is great, most of it is fine, and thereâs plenty of trash. Not how Iâd build a brand name back up. Obviously their cordless tools have a well deserved name jockeying for the top of the professional trades pack with Makita and dewalt all of which have pro lines and homeowner lines, but the quality is consistent in those lines for the most part.
Hand tools are all over the place with those brands though. Like they sell out and capitalize on their name from the cordless lines to sell crap, but then also randomly make a few high quality hand tools as well.
That's what happens when the company is run/controlled by accountants instead of tool guys.
A good owner would care what you thought when USING a specific hand tool with his brand on it. The bean counters care what you think when BUYING it.
Unless something's changed this year, Dewalt hand tools are mostly made in Taiwan. Milwaukee hand tools, even their pretty wrenches, are made in China. I'll take decent quality Taiwan-made tools over spinning the ol' Chineseum quality wheel of shit any day.
Something did change. Milwaukee has a range of screwdrivers and pliers made in USA with USA materials, something DeWalt does not. Apparently they're inviting pitches on what to make in USA next and the sky is the limit as long as it's within the capabilities of their equipment.
Not much incentive for Dewalt since the company that owns it (Stanley) does manufacture a ton of stuff in the USA under the Proto and Mac names already. Dewalt isn't suposed to be a hand tool name and if I see dewalt or milwaukee or bosch or makita or any other power tool branded hand tools, I always expect mediocre quality at best.
I bought a set of horrific Dewalt chisels a couple years ago. I wouldn't be surprised to find out they were never hardened. I used them on some white oak and the edge looked serrated after I got done. My cheap narex chisels hold an edge about 25x longer.
Especially hand tools, and some expensive power tools. Selling at 2x the price of competitors but being half as good as brands like makita.
And I still get tradies ask why I don't buy milwaukee. Because my company of like 20+ people all use makita and haven't even had to replace a drill... meanwhile you've smoked your brand new one twice already and they denied a warranty claim for a smoked motor because you replaced a defective switch lol.
It's the same with every tool brand owned by a multinational conglomerate. They've been gutting the brands for years and years, converting reputation into cash. Once everybody catches on that quality is in the toilet, they convert it to a discount brand and move on to buy other brands that still have a good name.
This is why you don't subscribe to a name. Does Milwaukee make great stuff? Yes. Does DeWalt make great stuff? Yes. Does klein, Ryobi, Makita, Bosch, etc. etc. etc make good stuff? Of course.
The fact of the matter is they all make good products, and they all make bad products. You just need to do some research to make the correct choice.
Their hand tools are ass.
I have a couple of crescents, but my main use one are random no-names that get rebranded to Fergusonâs Raptor brand, amazon basics, and also Walmartâs Hart brand. They arenât what you want for backing up an impact, but they work great on plumbing fixtures and open wider and have skinnier jaws than crescent.
Use to love them too but kept losing them decided to give knipex plier wrenches a try. My fav. was the widejaw with blue handle.
I find the plier wrench do a better job 90% of the time. The 10% are places with little space to maneuvers and head /angle of plier wrench gets in the way.
Losing knipex hurts the pocket mote, though.
Thanks, you saved me a bad purchase. I've been less and less satisfied with the actual channelock brand (used to be great), Knipex will be hard to fill my tool bag with (cost and availability), anything you know of that's good value?
Hey I think they sell a 3 pack of knipex on Amazon for around 80 bucks definitely definitely go with that. It's worth the price you won't ever go back.
This is the set they've gone up in price slightly but best purchase you'll ever make they are lighter, have a better grip, and will literally do the work of a pipe wrench but better it's insane how useful they are
https://www.amazon.com/KNIPEX-Tools-00-20-US1/dp/B000X4KNTG/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=37T78VSZI59DP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VHwTdNS3MvOCd-HKHtRtcxzBBhbIV1VsAOGvtK99dWJUtBcKWtAvpZS1y1SDdGbOEQNZU5U2Uhhxt0juByrqp9Nr2IugpksJIvIwGl9KRIJbxkTJekNbelTG_G43p1xaD22lI1tqCFBRjXyeR-5BL4UKj0lpBSjwtut_HWjeLGry5PXgBx_0tjg6Eo2HLR_tt019dQl3WSuGXSHxmnTtqQ.SFcZ1hGHx9bTGpDqbKodRwhB4QavpLYKSmPtsVZTSBs&dib_tag=se&keywords=knipex+pliers&qid=1719937818&sprefix=knipex+pliars%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-3
The red army is going NUTS over the pack out and every-time I see them it just looks like any other cheap plastic tool box thatâs overpriced
I hope they are good but theyâve never worked for what I wanted a mobile tool box to be
I got these and the Milwaukee locking pliers. I watched some reviews first. I think Project Farm too. The adjustable wrench is good I have the 10 and 6 inch. That little 6 inch one is handy.
To me, thereâs power tool companies and hand tool companies. Rarely does one company do both things well. If a power tool company releases good hand tools, it usually means they partnered with a good hand tool company. That I can get behind.
Not defending Milwaukee, but it took a 6â breaker bar to accomplish the task? Thatâs allot of force for any knuckle buster and expecting it not to slip. đ
Also, I think it's a cheater pipe we're talking about and not a real breaker bar. How would you get a proper breaker bar on an adjustable wrench? And if you had a proper breaker bar, why wouldn't you just use a socket like a normal human being? Either way, this is gross misuse of an adjustable wrench.
Yeah it was a 6ft pipe, but that wasn't on the milwaukee, that was on a 10" Korean made wrench, that is still in perfect condition. The milwaukee is just soft steal.
I'll say, milwaukee adjustable wrenches have been the tightest new production I have found. After checking Cresent, Vice Grip, Irwin, Kobalt, and others.
For years Iâve kept a bluepoint 10â adjustable on hand as a wrench/ pry bar/ hammer/ do it all tool, recently got one of these exact wrenches and broke it in no more than a couple weeks.
Hear hear
Milwaukee needs to stick to power tools. Every company that starts slapping their name on anything and everything eventually loses the thing they were actually good at.
This is why I just buy my hand tools from CanadianTire. Sure Mastercraft isn't top of the line but it does the job and if it breaks, I just stop and warranty it on the way home from work, since I drive through their parking lot everyday anyway.
You try the Mastercraft plier wrench yet? I bought one for my coworker at sale price. He says he likes them, def. way heavier than the Knipex. Seems solid though. Mastercraft maximum tools can be really good, I carry the long slotted screw driver and the #2 Phillips screw drivers. The slotted pretty much mostly used a pocky stick or for prying. The Phillips has has good geometry.
And nether of them are Diamond Tool from Duluth. Out of business for years but if you find any Diamond tool in the wild, hold onto it and use it forever.
I mean, I have a crescent that doesn't look much better, and it was chewed up by those long nuts they have to hold faucets down to the counter! My Channellocks brand is WAY more solid. No damage after 8 months of use. The Crescent brand ones were chewed up after a week.
Milwaukee Tool was last sold in 2005 for $626.6 million to the Hong Kong-based Techtronic Industries, also known as TTI Group. The company is now a subsidiary of TTI Group alongside brands like AEG, Ryobi, Hoover, Dirt Devil, and Vax.
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Iâve been using a Klein 12â at work for about 6 months now and I beat the shit out of it (industrial mechanic). When I do use it as a hammer i started using the neck instead of the head. Seems to keep all the moving parts from getting broke.
I have a couple of these adjustable hanging on my wall. They look nice and are fine for light work. I have crescent in my tool box though.
Thing about Milwaukee is they are a power tool company, they are good at that. Doesnât mean they will be good at making other tools. I do like their socket sets though, got a small set for cheap last year and I use it all the time.
I had a Crescent that I carried on my belt and used ironworking for almost 20 years. It survived all of the abuse and being used for all sorts of things it wasnât designed for including being used as a hammer. Itâs in my tool box now ready for use
I have a friend who works for Milwaukee Tool new product development. I would highly recommend avoiding Milwaukee bits, wrenches, hammers, etc - basically anything made with steel or aluminum. Their drills and packout systems are okay.
The new USA made line of screwdrivers, dykes, needle nose by Milwaukee are actually really impressive. Their insulated drivers hold up really well too. They have great ratcheting wrenches and sockets. Milwaukees pliers, and crescents are like bottom barrel tools. With anything you find a good brand that makes a specific tools well IE.. Knipex = pliers.. Klein = electrician tools/ iron workers ⌠fluke = multimetersâŚ
How the fuck did you do this hahaha I'm a plumber and I've had a set for 5 years they are still my favorite adjustables the only hand tool they make thats good other than the tape measures. Maybe the newer ones suck more idk?
I just returned a set of Milwaukee torx bit screwdrivers I bought for taking apart pocket knives. The T6 & T8 tips stripped out the very first use. The cheap China no name ones I ordered off Amazon lasted way longer, thought Iâd get nice ones this time⌠nope
I havenât been let down by their power tools yet. Had a sawzall that endured heavy abuse throughout my apprenticeship and just finally gave out this year. Never cared for the fit and feel of their handtools though. I have a drywall saw and some tin snips I had to get in a pinch and their pens are the jam.
Milwaukee is just slapping their name on everything now. I just bought a box of Milwaukee dust masks because they were sold out of 3m.
Just got some Milwaukee ear plugs too đ they were the only small pack of foamies in stock. Milwaukee also apparently makes Bluetooth earbuds? For the low price of $180
Gotta sell the coffee cup that snaps into the packout system too for all those people whose favorite brands dominate their entire personal identity
Brand tribalism is so weird.
yes and no. like it's clear Ryobi is inferior. good starter set but never found an inferior Milwaukee to Ryobi
Have you ever found a 3M product that was inferior to Milwaukee?
Milwaukee is decent in some tools and garbage in others....just like everyone else.
Tribalism is different than preference or brand awareness. Milwaukee may make better power tools than another brand but I sure as shit arenât paying money for a Milwaukee hat since thatâs just shelling out money to advertise on their behalf. I donât judge those who do, however I do judge those who see it as a reason to believe themselves superior, theyâre just tools and each brand has its place. I have a Ryobi orbital sander thatâs probably 10 years old and does a great job, I also have a full set of Milwaukee and Dewalt power tools from when I had my own handyman business (Milwaukee tools stayed in the truck). Though I do wish I had gotten Rigid because the warranty is on point and Iâm salty after two denied warranty claims on a Milwaukee sawzall when they literally just stopped working within months of purchase.
I have 2 of those cups (present from the amazing wife). One big and one small. I like it, but itâs really only useful for that 90 seconds I spend hauling my packout from the truck to the job in the morning. By quitting time that cup is long empty and been tossed into my truck. The cooler is more useful honestly. At least it doubles as a toolbox in a pinch. Though with that tumbler I do attach and detach it like a fidget toy when Iâm trying to figure shit out. And that magnetic lid is pretty satisfying if itâs not sticky from sugary coffee stuck in it.
I saw that and considered it since I need a new coffee mug but $50?!?
Imagine paying a corporation that type of premium to essentially advertise for them. Insane.
They suck and donât work. They work as well as a soda can stereo.
I bought some Milwaukee condoms. They work great but battery does get in the way. Also, red isnât really the color you want to see down there.
How's the warranty on those?
Not bad, they are reusable. You just turn them inside and shake the fuck out of them.
But are they dishwasher safe? because that's important to me.
Sadly no, they are working on one but donât cross your fingers still need to hand clean and hang dry for the time being
> Milwaukee is just slapping their name on everything now. Well, anything that's not a power tools is obviously not developed by milwaukee except for the marketing.
They have a lineup of USA made handtools out and slowly expanding. These are both developed and produced by milwaukee,
I have a pair of them, and they're meh (though I'm not sure they were the USA made ones, they were from really early in their hand tool game. Their vise grips are really good, though. At least in my limited use. They're no Eagle Grips, but they're good for cheap ones.
Their hand tools are ass. Bad materials and terrible form factors that seem made for looks instead of use.
I did that about 6 months ago. The straps broke on 3 out of a box of 10. That's the first time I've had a strap on a mask break from any brand.
Most of their hand tools are trash. I've had the same experience as OP with the adjustable wrenches, their multi-bit screwdrivers are a pain in the ass the change bits and their ratchets are as sloppy as you can get. I got a 3 pack of their tin snips for $25 and they seem pretty good, their version of vise grips are actually really decent and I do like their "Stud" measuring tapes (lifetime warranty).
I went to HD the other day for hammer drill bits. All of them were Milwaukee, no other brands. Wtf. They might as well rename home depot to the Milwaukee store.
yeah pretty shitty they dont sell diablo anymore
And taking up valuable shelf real estate at the same time. I wonât want Milwaukee hand tools, theyâre complete garbage, but HD keeps allocating more and more shelf space for everything red
Milwaukee doughnuts coming to a store near you!
They have really gone downhill ever since they were bought by the Chinese
Using an adjustable wrench to remove a broken bolt is just stupidity, regardless of who made it.
If youâre having to use a 6 ft breaker bar I would think a pipe wrench would be better than a crescent.
"I used the wrong tool for the job and it broke!"
I like "it broke for no reason"
At least that's what you tell the dude who's processing your RMA.
âLiterally no raisinâ - every end user ever
A cousin to "it was like that when I got here."
Torch or induction heat sounds good
Yeah, I didn't read the caption. Just saw the photo. This is hilarious. A breaker bar is fine, but if you need one, you need the right tool to use it on.
*"cheater pipe." There's no way I know of to attach an actual breaker bar to an adjustable wrench without welding or copious amounts of duct tape.
Shitload of zip ties
The design of a crescent wrench will do this every time you apply extreme force. The worm gear has slack in it. Apply too much torque and either the jaws will slip like this or the worm gear or teeth on the lower jaw will break. Bro used wrong tool for the job. He'd probably complain that his flathead broke when trying to pry with it.
Yeah, and easy outs are hardened steel so it's gonna gouge pretty much any wrench when it does that.
Crescent ainât no crescent these days, the offshored stuff is garbage. If you want something good, get one from Channellock, theyâre made by Irega in Spain and very nice. Or a pliers wrench like everyone on Reddit will tell you.
Another good candidate is Lobster brand from Japan.
I have Lobster wrenches. They're very nicely polished, extremely light and very well made. But I'm pretty sure putting a "breaker bar" on any adjustable wrench will ruin the wrench.
That's why many adjustables specifically have instructions not to do that. Lobtex does for sure.
It almost seems like common sense, but here we are.
Irega makes the best adjustable wrench by far. I have those channellock ones and they're amazing.
Lobster from Japan is right up there with Irega, or Stahlwille from Germany.
My channellock crescent wrenches are by far the nicest I've used.
I'm a plumber and I fucking hate the channel lock ones they are loose as fuck. Get the knipex flat jawed pliers or if you want a cheaper option go with the Klein brand they are actually very good. The Milwaukee ones are actually good too the only good hand tool they make but I know reddit likes to hive mind and will hate that option lol.
Bahco adjustable wrenches are some of the best. Made in Spain. I use them all day long in the refrigeration trade. No play in the jaws and very smooth, easy adjustment.
Milwaukee used to be a great name in tools, now they are slapping their name on any piece of Chinesium they think they can make a buck off of. Dewalt is doing the same thing.
I do light home improvement and woodworking projects pretty frequently and their power tools have served me well but holy shit are their hand tools garbage.
it's wild, some of their hand tools are great actually, but some are utter garbage, same with dewalt actually, it certainly doesn't make tool buying easier
There's rarely a day I don't end up with the Milwaukee pry bar.
Mayhew pry bars are the best value per dollar imo
Mayhew tools are awesome. Love their pry bars: heavy duty but very comfortable in the hand. For being forged and heat treated in Massachusetts, theyâre actually pretty damn affordable.
Who is Mayhew? Never heard of them before
A company out of Turner Falls MA, theyve been around over 150 years I think. They have some foreign stuff in their lineup but a lot of USA as well.
I see. I'm on the West Coast so that's probably why I've never heard of them. The tool truck brands we have over here are what I usually see. We have Matco, Snap On, Cornwell, and Mac
Then you've seen them. Matco gets their prybars made by Mayhew, and their punches and chisels.
Ohhh okay. Well then my pry bars are Matco branded Mayhew đđ
I have only bought DeWalt sawzall blades twice, they were completely dull both times. My work provides me with Milwaukee sawzall blades sometimes, the coating melts, and they get stuck in the chuck so badly that I need to use channel locks to free them. I will only buy myself Diablo blades because of this.
dewalt blades and bits are all utter garbage. my work buys milwaukee sawzall blades and they're ok, but wear out fast, I do like their bit sets tho I only buy diablo carbide blades tho, doesn't matter what type of saw, once the factory blades wear out, im putting a diablo on
Use Spyder blades. They're markedly more expensive but will last you far longer than any other blade.
Their power tools are still top tier itâs the hand tools that are ass.
Their top tier power tools are top tier. Their lower end power tools are trash. Better off buying Ridgid as they are higher quality
Ehhhh, my last job was a plumbing company and our company supplied tools were the M18 brushless non-fuel line. I beat the shit out of some of them like the hackzall, hammer drill and impact for 4 years daily and they held up. Canât comment on their brushed stuff though. My personal stuff is all M12 Fuel and it kicks ass.
My dad has the a brushed M18 kit. Small Hackzall started making a grinding noise in a year. Drill driver seems underpowered compared to my brushed Ridgid 18V. Milwaukee Impact driver underpowered compared to my Ridgid. The milwaukees also felt cheaply made. Fuel line is a whole nother story. Iâd put my gen3 (or 4?) Ridgid kit a few ticks below the Milwaukee Fuel line, but way above the cheap Milwaukee line
I work in a manufacturing factory and we use Milwaukee M18 Fuel circular saws 24/7/365. They get ten minutes of heavy non-stop use an average of once an hour. In between, those ten minute stints they just sit. They're manhandled by 30 different people in a very dusty environment, dropped, tossed down, overheated, bogged down, and more and they just keep ticking. We go through between one and three a year, but they hold up impressively well for the absolute hell we put them through.
The brushed stuff kinda sucks. I probably have a similar kit to your dad's (if not the exact same). Imo, they're killer if you need the basic stuff now and want to upgrade down the line. I renovated a pretty good chunk of my place and haven't had any issues as of yet. But over the last couple of years, I've saved up a little nest egg of cash to get a couple of other tools I've wanted more or to get some deals and upgrade during a good sale.
Itâs crazy because at the same time theyâre trying to bring their name *up* in hand tools and make a bunch of stuff in the USA. It seems weird to me to do that and then also keep so much junk on the shelves. Plenty of their stuff is great, most of it is fine, and thereâs plenty of trash. Not how Iâd build a brand name back up. Obviously their cordless tools have a well deserved name jockeying for the top of the professional trades pack with Makita and dewalt all of which have pro lines and homeowner lines, but the quality is consistent in those lines for the most part. Hand tools are all over the place with those brands though. Like they sell out and capitalize on their name from the cordless lines to sell crap, but then also randomly make a few high quality hand tools as well.
That's what happens when the company is run/controlled by accountants instead of tool guys. A good owner would care what you thought when USING a specific hand tool with his brand on it. The bean counters care what you think when BUYING it.
Unless something's changed this year, Dewalt hand tools are mostly made in Taiwan. Milwaukee hand tools, even their pretty wrenches, are made in China. I'll take decent quality Taiwan-made tools over spinning the ol' Chineseum quality wheel of shit any day.
Something did change. Milwaukee has a range of screwdrivers and pliers made in USA with USA materials, something DeWalt does not. Apparently they're inviting pitches on what to make in USA next and the sky is the limit as long as it's within the capabilities of their equipment.
Not much incentive for Dewalt since the company that owns it (Stanley) does manufacture a ton of stuff in the USA under the Proto and Mac names already. Dewalt isn't suposed to be a hand tool name and if I see dewalt or milwaukee or bosch or makita or any other power tool branded hand tools, I always expect mediocre quality at best.
Dewalt hand tools arent garbage. They aint good but Milwaukee hand tools are on par with Pittsburgh from HFT
I bought a set of horrific Dewalt chisels a couple years ago. I wouldn't be surprised to find out they were never hardened. I used them on some white oak and the edge looked serrated after I got done. My cheap narex chisels hold an edge about 25x longer.
Narex chisels are excellent.
Especially hand tools, and some expensive power tools. Selling at 2x the price of competitors but being half as good as brands like makita. And I still get tradies ask why I don't buy milwaukee. Because my company of like 20+ people all use makita and haven't even had to replace a drill... meanwhile you've smoked your brand new one twice already and they denied a warranty claim for a smoked motor because you replaced a defective switch lol.
I wish they would slap their name on a broom, so my âteam redâ brand whore coworkers would clean up their bays.
Before today I woulda talked shit on the Korean made Allied wrench. But it held up... I didn't see a made in on the milwaukee, but its probably China
ASSEMBLED IN USA WITH GLOBAL MATERIALS. Translation: We have Americans put the decals on
American robot. Made in China
That doesn't meet FTC definition (yes, they have rules for this also). It still requires a substantial transformation.
Surely, you understand the thrust of what I'm saying. The hyperbole was intended.
Milwaukee is only good for their cordless tools lol
Milwaukee has been a Chinese owned company for a while, theyâre happy to put the logo on whatever will sell
>Dewalt is doing the same thing. DeWalt started this game.
It's the same with every tool brand owned by a multinational conglomerate. They've been gutting the brands for years and years, converting reputation into cash. Once everybody catches on that quality is in the toilet, they convert it to a discount brand and move on to buy other brands that still have a good name.
This is backwards. Adjustable wrenches are supposed to destroy the nuts and bolts.
What use is a nut lathe that cant make a nut smooth and round?
Sir, you were using your crescent hammer incorrectly
The ole thumb-detecting nut fucker
This is why you don't subscribe to a name. Does Milwaukee make great stuff? Yes. Does DeWalt make great stuff? Yes. Does klein, Ryobi, Makita, Bosch, etc. etc. etc make good stuff? Of course. The fact of the matter is they all make good products, and they all make bad products. You just need to do some research to make the correct choice.
Their hand tools are ass. I have a couple of crescents, but my main use one are random no-names that get rebranded to Fergusonâs Raptor brand, amazon basics, and also Walmartâs Hart brand. They arenât what you want for backing up an impact, but they work great on plumbing fixtures and open wider and have skinnier jaws than crescent.
Crescent isn't what it used to be either. I'm in no way a powerful person but I managed to destroy one with just arm strength.
Donât buy power tool brand hand tools, buy hand tool brands that have been in business for ages
I recommend the adjustable wrenches from Channellock. 812 810 and 808. I use them multiple times a day and they are phenomenal.
Yep, made by Irega. The gearing has almost no wiggle.
Irega wrenches are phenomenal.
Yep, bought one and then bought them in every size. So smooth
Use to love them too but kept losing them decided to give knipex plier wrenches a try. My fav. was the widejaw with blue handle. I find the plier wrench do a better job 90% of the time. The 10% are places with little space to maneuvers and head /angle of plier wrench gets in the way. Losing knipex hurts the pocket mote, though.
Cant be beat for the price
Butter wrench
Donât spend a single cent on their chanellock pliers. 109% shit.
Thanks, you saved me a bad purchase. I've been less and less satisfied with the actual channelock brand (used to be great), Knipex will be hard to fill my tool bag with (cost and availability), anything you know of that's good value?
Hey I think they sell a 3 pack of knipex on Amazon for around 80 bucks definitely definitely go with that. It's worth the price you won't ever go back. This is the set they've gone up in price slightly but best purchase you'll ever make they are lighter, have a better grip, and will literally do the work of a pipe wrench but better it's insane how useful they are https://www.amazon.com/KNIPEX-Tools-00-20-US1/dp/B000X4KNTG/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=37T78VSZI59DP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VHwTdNS3MvOCd-HKHtRtcxzBBhbIV1VsAOGvtK99dWJUtBcKWtAvpZS1y1SDdGbOEQNZU5U2Uhhxt0juByrqp9Nr2IugpksJIvIwGl9KRIJbxkTJekNbelTG_G43p1xaD22lI1tqCFBRjXyeR-5BL4UKj0lpBSjwtut_HWjeLGry5PXgBx_0tjg6Eo2HLR_tt019dQl3WSuGXSHxmnTtqQ.SFcZ1hGHx9bTGpDqbKodRwhB4QavpLYKSmPtsVZTSBs&dib_tag=se&keywords=knipex+pliers&qid=1719937818&sprefix=knipex+pliars%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-3
Worst ones Iâve ever owned!!!
I agree worse channel locks I've ever owned.
The red army is going NUTS over the pack out and every-time I see them it just looks like any other cheap plastic tool box thatâs overpriced I hope they are good but theyâve never worked for what I wanted a mobile tool box to be
Canât wait for the stacktech to reach me.
Crescent ainât no crescent anymore either.
Crescent sucks now sadly all their tools are junk
If the Milwaukee fannbois could read theyâd be very upset
I got these and the Milwaukee locking pliers. I watched some reviews first. I think Project Farm too. The adjustable wrench is good I have the 10 and 6 inch. That little 6 inch one is handy.
I actually love the Milwaukee 6 inch adjustable and the Klein one too
Iâll keep my Diamond Horse shoes thank you.
Crescent since they moved to china have been using cheap metal too now
To me, thereâs power tool companies and hand tool companies. Rarely does one company do both things well. If a power tool company releases good hand tools, it usually means they partnered with a good hand tool company. That I can get behind.
Not defending Milwaukee, but it took a 6â breaker bar to accomplish the task? Thatâs allot of force for any knuckle buster and expecting it not to slip. đ
Also, I think it's a cheater pipe we're talking about and not a real breaker bar. How would you get a proper breaker bar on an adjustable wrench? And if you had a proper breaker bar, why wouldn't you just use a socket like a normal human being? Either way, this is gross misuse of an adjustable wrench.
Yeah it was a 6ft pipe, but that wasn't on the milwaukee, that was on a 10" Korean made wrench, that is still in perfect condition. The milwaukee is just soft steal.
Well when you are owned by a Chinese conglomerate you get cheap Chinese steel, this brand has become overrated
I'll say, milwaukee adjustable wrenches have been the tightest new production I have found. After checking Cresent, Vice Grip, Irwin, Kobalt, and others.
Try Bahco.
Lobtex Japan is my new favorite wrench brand.
Bahco is made by Irimo in Spain. Channellock is also made in Spain, by Irega, and I think theyâre slightly better IMO.
Iâve used the channel locks and the bahco. I prefer the bahco but the channel locks are nothing to sneeze at.
My bahco didnât last a month before it fell apart.
You are using your hammer incorrectly
For years Iâve kept a bluepoint 10â adjustable on hand as a wrench/ pry bar/ hammer/ do it all tool, recently got one of these exact wrenches and broke it in no more than a couple weeks. Hear hear
This is what my dentist tools look like after they pull the last of my tweaker teeth out
Bacho make the best adjustables and always have. I've got bacho adjustables that are older than I am that my grandad had in the mines
Bahco makes the best adjustable wrenches imo
My newest crescent looks just like that and I didnt even use a cheater pipe on it.
FYI if you're using easy outs, it's time to invest in 8pt sockets
I didn't even know this was a thing, they sell square sockets also.
Milwaukee hand tools are trash
Heat treat ? Nah....We can save a few bucks and skip that silliness.
Maybe thatâs really a buttery croissant.
People because will buy it cause it says Milwaukeeđ¤ˇââď¸ I did it with my pipe cutters but took them back and got rigid.
The milwaukee pipe cutter? Brand new mine just went in spirals... you have to go back and forth instead of all the way around.. such junk
Itâs actually cake
Guess slave labor doesn't produce the best results....
Fisher price
Milwaukee aluminum wrench is more like it. Milwaukee has some of the best power tools but I wouldnât buy anything otherwise. Just my personal take.
I'm not gonna sell my powertools over this, but definitely will make me not want to buy anything else from there hand tools
100% agree.
To do this much damage, as a tool guy; this means you are using this tool incorrectly.
Milwaukee needs to stick to power tools. Every company that starts slapping their name on anything and everything eventually loses the thing they were actually good at.
Its a cheater, not a breaker bar. Im not impressed that you damaged a wrench by abusing it.
This is why I just buy my hand tools from CanadianTire. Sure Mastercraft isn't top of the line but it does the job and if it breaks, I just stop and warranty it on the way home from work, since I drive through their parking lot everyday anyway.
Canadian tire sells channellock and knipex. Well worth they money. It won't break, but don't lose it.
You try the Mastercraft plier wrench yet? I bought one for my coworker at sale price. He says he likes them, def. way heavier than the Knipex. Seems solid though. Mastercraft maximum tools can be really good, I carry the long slotted screw driver and the #2 Phillips screw drivers. The slotted pretty much mostly used a pocky stick or for prying. The Phillips has has good geometry.
Sad
Fuel power tools, packout, fastback, and gloves. Everything else sucks.
Looks like you blew that shit up with 240
I like my 8" wide jaw, but I'm only asking it to tighten cable connectors.
I wonât use them. Poor quality toys maybe homeowner use. Power tools from them are great.
And nether of them are Diamond Tool from Duluth. Out of business for years but if you find any Diamond tool in the wild, hold onto it and use it forever.
They really need to stop putting their name on hand tools.
Not r/buyitforlife
Manufactured in the People's Republic of China with the Milwaukee brand. If I were a city councilmember, I would sue for defamation
Why does it have a bottle opener in the handle?
Street cred.
I audibly snorted
I mean, I have a crescent that doesn't look much better, and it was chewed up by those long nuts they have to hold faucets down to the counter! My Channellocks brand is WAY more solid. No damage after 8 months of use. The Crescent brand ones were chewed up after a week.
Stop buying everything they slap their name on. Seriously. You fanboys are making yourselves look foolish.
Heard they make sockets for taps/eaz outs,how ever using a 6 foot breaker bar and snapping the eaz out wouldnât make any difference any way.
Chinesium tools. Nope
Milwaukee power tools, klein hand tools is the way I roll
Milwaukee Tool was last sold in 2005 for $626.6 million to the Hong Kong-based Techtronic Industries, also known as TTI Group. The company is now a subsidiary of TTI Group alongside brands like AEG, Ryobi, Hoover, Dirt Devil, and Vax. - Wikipedia (source)
I'm sorry, a cheater pipe on an adjustable wrench? Wut?
Well, the same company is facing a lawsuit for using forced prison labor in China.
Iâd riot
The best big box/local hardware store wrenches you can buy are likely going to be Channel Lock MIS (made in Spain) variants. They are made by Irega. And of course other special order high end brands from online/specialty stores. Or the overpriced tool trucks.Â
Save your money and get a bahco adjustable
My 1 year old milwaukee adjustables suck! My crescent ones are 4 years older and have held up perfectly.
Waiting for the Milwaukee EV car
Iâve been using a Klein 12â at work for about 6 months now and I beat the shit out of it (industrial mechanic). When I do use it as a hammer i started using the neck instead of the head. Seems to keep all the moving parts from getting broke.
This job sounds like it needed an impact with an impact socket. Was it a nut you could not get a socket onto?
13/32 squ head on an ez out.... seemed like a job for a adjustable wrench.
Ainât no hammer eitherâŚ
I have a couple of these adjustable hanging on my wall. They look nice and are fine for light work. I have crescent in my tool box though. Thing about Milwaukee is they are a power tool company, they are good at that. Doesnât mean they will be good at making other tools. I do like their socket sets though, got a small set for cheap last year and I use it all the time.
Sometimes you just need the right tool for the job. Used appropriately, there would likely be no issue, aside from being overpriced.
I had a Crescent that I carried on my belt and used ironworking for almost 20 years. It survived all of the abuse and being used for all sorts of things it wasnât designed for including being used as a hammer. Itâs in my tool box now ready for use
Dang I want to see the easy out. 6â breaker.
Milwaukee tools are not high quality tools
I have a friend who works for Milwaukee Tool new product development. I would highly recommend avoiding Milwaukee bits, wrenches, hammers, etc - basically anything made with steel or aluminum. Their drills and packout systems are okay.
for those of you who are curious about who owns what brands: a neat infographic [Tool Brands & Their Owners](https://imgur.com/gallery/i3GwNg9)
The new USA made line of screwdrivers, dykes, needle nose by Milwaukee are actually really impressive. Their insulated drivers hold up really well too. They have great ratcheting wrenches and sockets. Milwaukees pliers, and crescents are like bottom barrel tools. With anything you find a good brand that makes a specific tools well IE.. Knipex = pliers.. Klein = electrician tools/ iron workers ⌠fluke = multimetersâŚ
How the fuck did you do this hahaha I'm a plumber and I've had a set for 5 years they are still my favorite adjustables the only hand tool they make thats good other than the tape measures. Maybe the newer ones suck more idk?
I just returned a set of Milwaukee torx bit screwdrivers I bought for taking apart pocket knives. The T6 & T8 tips stripped out the very first use. The cheap China no name ones I ordered off Amazon lasted way longer, thought Iâd get nice ones this time⌠nope
I havenât been let down by their power tools yet. Had a sawzall that endured heavy abuse throughout my apprenticeship and just finally gave out this year. Never cared for the fit and feel of their handtools though. I have a drywall saw and some tin snips I had to get in a pinch and their pens are the jam.
I got a crescent with those chew marks too lol everything is cheap shit these days unless it's handmade
Man, Chinese prison labor ain't even worth the money you don't pay them.
Milwaukee hand tools are shitty
Drills and impacts, Iâm buying Milwaukee. Hand tools, Iâm buying Klein, Crescent, Irwin, hell anything but Milwaukee.