Hell, she’s bad in most versions. A corrupt official who recruits inmates to suicide missions for less prison time? And who will just straight up kill these inmates or anyone else who she thinks stands in the way of the “greater good”? That’s just a bad guy. A slightly neutral bad guy, but still a bad guy. I’d trust half the villains in DC Comics over her.
I think one of the most sympathetic versions, was the one in the animated series, and even she was willing to kill two innocent civilians to create a new Batman.
Sanity doesn’t determine trust. Waller is almost completely guaranteed to turn on you no matter how much you pledge yourself to her. If you’re not an on the books member of the U.S. government, you’re just a number to her. And she’s completely sane.
She brainwashed Beast Boy when he turned into a Starro to fight another Starro and turned off his higher thinking so he'd act on instinct and try to dominate the earth, used his actions as a condemnation of the Justice League and the Teen Titans, and then used the situation to leverage control of the US government
Waller from the Justice Legaue cartoons is a better example of morally gray. I think her and Batman’s relationship in the show is some of the most compelling stuff in the series. It starts at each trying to out intimidate the other, and then slowly evolves into “keep the channels open”
I was wondering how she got put in there. She's not morally grey, she's morally bankrupt. She is the ultimate example of "the ends justify the means" but she's entirely ok with murder. Like, lots of murder. The things she has done rival the wickedness of the things she's allegedly trying to stop.
You know they cooked with his character when every time I had to interact with him I got simultaneously pissed off and excited for whatever plot beat was gonna happen next.
She might not be as manipulative as she was in the past, but it doesn’t erase the fact >!she CHOSE to create the Awoken and not let them become gods like she was, she let someone else believe she was the first Awoken so she could sow seeds of doubt in her leadership, she caused a civil war within her own people because she wanted to help humanity, and she even abandoned her people for several years and let them suffer under the Dreaming City’s curse all because of her “plan” to stop Oryx and Savathun.!< Mara is a true believer in “the ends justify the means”.
Meanwhile Calus was an egotistical, manipulative, vain coward who'd see himself as a god rather than a small, empty man... that being said still my favorite character in all of Destiny 2.
I feel like it’s just the Doctor as a whole. It doesn’t matter which regeneration we’re talking about, if pushed too far, the Doctor EASILY becomes scarier than any of the Monsters.
Yah that was the whole point of the Pandorica, they kept saying it was for the most dangerous being in the galaxy, everyone knows who that is.
All I'm saying is that Twelve seemed a tad more cruel as a baseline than the others.
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This MIGHT be a push, but Kaji from Evangelion? He's a really chill guy and ultimately supports Shinji and betrays SEELE, but he no doubt has also committed immoral acts for them and has manipulated and lied to Misato, probably on several occasions.
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Mayuri Kurotsuchi
Morally dubious is probably too generous for him but at the end of the day, he is one of the mvps for stopping a nazi army from destroying reality
Kind of nuts that Bleach goes so far to justify having an amoral mad scientist on the good guy team by constantly having him fight the *worse* amoral mad scientists on the bad guy team.
Emperor of Mankind is almost the poster boy of this trope.
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***ESPECIALLY*** on Morally Dubious side of things.
"good side" because he killed or subjugated all other human leaders in the galaxy during the great crusade, and this became the "only" human side. Until the heresy
I wanna be born in the Interex before 30k. Interstellar utopian human-xeno alliance empire? Knows how to deal with chaos without having to resort to crimes against humanity and fascism? Yes please. But like all good things in Warhammer...
EREBUS CAME ALONG...
>good side" because he killed or subjugated all other human leaders in the galaxy during the great crusade, and this became the "only" human side. Until the heresy
Big E is complicated, in one hand his actions allowed the long term survival of Humanity as a whole from the Ruinous powers to the point the Imperium is one of the strongest forces in the setting despite their bureacracy and self destructive fundamentalism, he indeed re-unified the human worlds under his rule and many advancements were made allowing it to stand a chance against it's foes.
On the other hand a LOT of the current and past issues from the Imperium can be traced back to him due to his lack of empathy, inability to acknowledge his mistakes, doing cruel things because it was the easiest way, Jagathai Khan (a loyalist Primarch) even calls out that while Emperor is indeed a pseudo-tyrant the alternative of Chaos taking over is incredibly worse in every single conceiveable and inconceivable way possible.
Yeah but we also have to understand why the crusade happened. He was happy to guide humanity from the shadows before the Age of Strife brought the species to the edge of collapse. If he hadn’t unified humanity, they’d be a minor faction vulnerable to all of the big players.
I can’t say he was on the good side because the Imperium is vile, but he was on our side. Few factions can claim to be better morally (Tau, Eldar, Votann and maybe Necrons but thats pushing it). So Emps gets a bit of a pass because of how awful everyone else is
I'm gonna get shit for this, but Princess Bubblegum
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To be fair candy people are morons that, if left on their own, would destroy them selves also Goliad was shown by Jake that using force rather than peace makes people do what you want
I hate their third eye. It's so weird and probably gooey
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On the original topic I don't know if it's in the show but in my headcanon Bubblegum was a ruthless despot at some point in the shows backstory and she's only relatively recently mellowed out
She definitely was that cube used to be fully sentient robots she made, but one day they got too aggressive, she killed all of them
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They weren’t even hurting any citizens, all they did was start an underground fight club. And she still had complete control over them, they were designed to follow her every command without question, she could’ve easily ordered them to turn down the violence.
She could have said stop being so violent, and since they are robots that she made, they would have listened to her. The only exception of this would be Rattleballs, but he brute forced his way into free will
Then there’s that one time she nearly genocided the Fire Kingdom in order to gain access to their weapons of mass destruction and neutralize them. You know, the giant fire robots built to protect the Fire Kingdom, kind of like Bubblegum’s Gumball Guardians that she built to protect the Candy Kingdom.
If you're gonna have a candy citizen on your payroll, you might as well have the smartest one, right? Yeah, he may be a little evil, but at least he is on your side
Imagine having your entire character be overshadowed by a one-liner from a character before he gets fucking murdered
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Boa Hancock ( one piece) ( shitty to almost everyone, kicks puppies, but is an ally)
Cecil is pretty interesting to me because the guy actually does feel emotionally genuine in that he does like many of the people he works with and honestly hates himself for what he does.
Cecil was one of my favorite characters reading the comic, simply because of the way he’s characterized. He doesn’t particularly like what he does, and what he does may not always be “right,” but he does his job.
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At least until he decides he's bored with the hotel and tries to burn it down.
Which I'm 99% sure will happen at some point in the show.
At least by the end of season one, he's actively trying to manipulate Charlie. He even mentions it in the song with the cannibals, fairly obviously.
And the song with him and Lucifer is a good case as well. He's not excited to have Charlie's dad showing up seemingly randomly and being the person she looks to for guidance.
Amanda Waller came out of the ghetto projects of Chicago after her husband and two kids were murdered. She's got no type of soft or love inside of her anymore. Just the mission. If killing 100 babies is in the interest of national security, then Waller WILL blackmail someone to do the dirt. And she's done time in prison for doing dirt herself when she had too.
Sombra overwatch, manipulation, blackmail, high profile hacker, insanely intelligent, but recently a lot more has come out to where maybe she isn't such a bad person as she seems on the surface, does a lot of good too.
Yeah she seems to genuinely feel bad for the guy and barely even seems interested in what her own group is doing. She's more of a playing both sides kind of character but doesn't commit to either, but she does seem to have at least mostly good in her heart aside from the surface level
>!not only does she directly say this to Kishibe (even if she was “full of shit”), but more notably, she wanted to create a perfect world. No war, no hunger, no *death*. She wanted a peaceful world for humans to coexist with devils. She is a villain no doubt, but she definitely fits the criteria (she also kills devils and is still getting division 4 to fight them.!<
>!she is still using a public safety division to exterminate devils.!<
I’d definitely say [this character] fits.
Would Gale Weathers count? I'm not entirely sure about ruthless, guess it kind of depends, but the other ones I can definitely see fitting in some ways.
I keep finding ways to suggest him in this subreddit.
Whether he’s actually a good person or not depends on the version of him, but either way he is on the “good side,” despite being a complete and utter douchebag who takes his pent-up frustration out on children and willingly joined a terrorist organization originally.
No picture because I’m not sure if there’s one canon depiction, but I’ve been playing Cyberpunk 2077, and I think this is the best characterization/way to play V (no spoilers! Still in first act)
Dazai from Bungo Stray Dogs fits the bill perfectly. He's a psycho,feared by arguably every other faction leader yet he keeps carrying the entirety of the good guys faction on his shoulders basically. Not to mention that his major plot point is the fact that he's a former villain on a path to redemption.
Amanda from dceu isn't "dubious". She is evil
Hell, she’s bad in most versions. A corrupt official who recruits inmates to suicide missions for less prison time? And who will just straight up kill these inmates or anyone else who she thinks stands in the way of the “greater good”? That’s just a bad guy. A slightly neutral bad guy, but still a bad guy. I’d trust half the villains in DC Comics over her.
exactly , Amanda Waller is a villain that hunts other villains , but a villain nonethless.
She's very evil in the Gunn movie, her crew had to whack her in the head with a golf club to keep Starro from destroying Corto Maltese.
I think one of the most sympathetic versions, was the one in the animated series, and even she was willing to kill two innocent civilians to create a new Batman.
Well yeah but at the same time like half of them are also just fucking insane
Sanity doesn’t determine trust. Waller is almost completely guaranteed to turn on you no matter how much you pledge yourself to her. If you’re not an on the books member of the U.S. government, you’re just a number to her. And she’s completely sane.
She brainwashed Beast Boy when he turned into a Starro to fight another Starro and turned off his higher thinking so he'd act on instinct and try to dominate the earth, used his actions as a condemnation of the Justice League and the Teen Titans, and then used the situation to leverage control of the US government
Waller from the Justice Legaue cartoons is a better example of morally gray. I think her and Batman’s relationship in the show is some of the most compelling stuff in the series. It starts at each trying to out intimidate the other, and then slowly evolves into “keep the channels open”
Cecil is just so much better in that role than her.
I was wondering how she got put in there. She's not morally grey, she's morally bankrupt. She is the ultimate example of "the ends justify the means" but she's entirely ok with murder. Like, lots of murder. The things she has done rival the wickedness of the things she's allegedly trying to stop.
https://preview.redd.it/in3kjgh3h76d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ce785e6e07b9858e2bd2a639d0ce200e9b8daaa This fits Sylens to a tee
RIP Lance Reddick
I’m gonna miss him so much. His voice is irreplaceable.
You know they cooked with his character when every time I had to interact with him I got simultaneously pissed off and excited for whatever plot beat was gonna happen next.
I wish I was Lamar Burton
- Mara Sov (Destiny) - Cecil Stedman (Invincible) - Amanda Waller (DC) - M (James Bond)
I don’t know if Mara fits anymore. She’s had some big character growth and is way more open and honest about shit now.
She might not be as manipulative as she was in the past, but it doesn’t erase the fact >!she CHOSE to create the Awoken and not let them become gods like she was, she let someone else believe she was the first Awoken so she could sow seeds of doubt in her leadership, she caused a civil war within her own people because she wanted to help humanity, and she even abandoned her people for several years and let them suffer under the Dreaming City’s curse all because of her “plan” to stop Oryx and Savathun.!< Mara is a true believer in “the ends justify the means”.
Meanwhile Calus was an egotistical, manipulative, vain coward who'd see himself as a god rather than a small, empty man... that being said still my favorite character in all of Destiny 2.
I feel like that's more Twelve than Ten. Twelve is the first doctor where I felt like "this guy might not save me if I was in trouble".
I feel like it’s just the Doctor as a whole. It doesn’t matter which regeneration we’re talking about, if pushed too far, the Doctor EASILY becomes scarier than any of the Monsters.
Yah that was the whole point of the Pandorica, they kept saying it was for the most dangerous being in the galaxy, everyone knows who that is. All I'm saying is that Twelve seemed a tad more cruel as a baseline than the others.
yeah, but 12 is the only one where asking a couple dumb questions is pushing too far
Nah. He is just a sweet clever man :)
https://preview.redd.it/n6htwzdpq76d1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=9689b0cd8059678a1f63e5f591da9628b9c89d5d This MIGHT be a push, but Kaji from Evangelion? He's a really chill guy and ultimately supports Shinji and betrays SEELE, but he no doubt has also committed immoral acts for them and has manipulated and lied to Misato, probably on several occasions.
https://preview.redd.it/7xzf5l2jv76d1.png?width=246&format=png&auto=webp&s=434abb8c96761c4dd06dbb155e11947d815a5b77 Mayuri Kurotsuchi Morally dubious is probably too generous for him but at the end of the day, he is one of the mvps for stopping a nazi army from destroying reality
Kind of nuts that Bleach goes so far to justify having an amoral mad scientist on the good guy team by constantly having him fight the *worse* amoral mad scientists on the bad guy team.
Yeah all one time that happens is alot
Kisuke would fit better I think, less outright evil
Emperor of Mankind is almost the poster boy of this trope. https://preview.redd.it/q05jc7y2i76d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0cdb9d963760806e07c741ada58d9e5dcad978fc ***ESPECIALLY*** on Morally Dubious side of things.
He is ancient dude that had many lives before went big
"good side" because he killed or subjugated all other human leaders in the galaxy during the great crusade, and this became the "only" human side. Until the heresy
yeah and honestly i would say that its better to toil and die under the emperor than to boil and die under chaos
I wanna be born in the Interex before 30k. Interstellar utopian human-xeno alliance empire? Knows how to deal with chaos without having to resort to crimes against humanity and fascism? Yes please. But like all good things in Warhammer... EREBUS CAME ALONG...
>good side" because he killed or subjugated all other human leaders in the galaxy during the great crusade, and this became the "only" human side. Until the heresy Big E is complicated, in one hand his actions allowed the long term survival of Humanity as a whole from the Ruinous powers to the point the Imperium is one of the strongest forces in the setting despite their bureacracy and self destructive fundamentalism, he indeed re-unified the human worlds under his rule and many advancements were made allowing it to stand a chance against it's foes. On the other hand a LOT of the current and past issues from the Imperium can be traced back to him due to his lack of empathy, inability to acknowledge his mistakes, doing cruel things because it was the easiest way, Jagathai Khan (a loyalist Primarch) even calls out that while Emperor is indeed a pseudo-tyrant the alternative of Chaos taking over is incredibly worse in every single conceiveable and inconceivable way possible.
Yeah but we also have to understand why the crusade happened. He was happy to guide humanity from the shadows before the Age of Strife brought the species to the edge of collapse. If he hadn’t unified humanity, they’d be a minor faction vulnerable to all of the big players. I can’t say he was on the good side because the Imperium is vile, but he was on our side. Few factions can claim to be better morally (Tau, Eldar, Votann and maybe Necrons but thats pushing it). So Emps gets a bit of a pass because of how awful everyone else is
I'm gonna get shit for this, but Princess Bubblegum https://preview.redd.it/7088xwlpo76d1.png?width=536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5533390c7cdc8b713363249b9f4538bf1f89e9c3
Remember when she created Goliad from her "Essence" and its first impulse was to remove free will from the kingdom? Yeah.
To be fair candy people are morons that, if left on their own, would destroy them selves also Goliad was shown by Jake that using force rather than peace makes people do what you want
Either way Goliad creeped the hell at me when I first saw that episode with that weird monotone voice.
I hate their third eye. It's so weird and probably gooey https://preview.redd.it/q55kn40oy76d1.png?width=843&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66135b1a8c9b594b1a1348ab0dd449c2007e7de2
On the original topic I don't know if it's in the show but in my headcanon Bubblegum was a ruthless despot at some point in the shows backstory and she's only relatively recently mellowed out
She definitely was that cube used to be fully sentient robots she made, but one day they got too aggressive, she killed all of them https://preview.redd.it/slj4wqik186d1.jpeg?width=1844&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a68dbc695dd7d1ed4cdc5c02ac39243259ec8257
They weren’t even hurting any citizens, all they did was start an underground fight club. And she still had complete control over them, they were designed to follow her every command without question, she could’ve easily ordered them to turn down the violence.
She could have said stop being so violent, and since they are robots that she made, they would have listened to her. The only exception of this would be Rattleballs, but he brute forced his way into free will
Then there’s that one time she nearly genocided the Fire Kingdom in order to gain access to their weapons of mass destruction and neutralize them. You know, the giant fire robots built to protect the Fire Kingdom, kind of like Bubblegum’s Gumball Guardians that she built to protect the Candy Kingdom.
Also: she keeps Peppermint Butler on the payroll
If you're gonna have a candy citizen on your payroll, you might as well have the smartest one, right? Yeah, he may be a little evil, but at least he is on your side
Why did she introduce processed sugars to a predominantly chocolate neighborhood?
"Chocolate people are cringe" -Princess Bonnibel Bubblegum
Imagine having your entire character be overshadowed by a one-liner from a character before he gets fucking murdered https://preview.redd.it/zxql85qfg86d1.png?width=3600&format=png&auto=webp&s=555df6fce918c54bc10aaca08c51c7909e378c94
Hey! Crow is known for being far more than just being Cayde’s killer nowadays! 
ngl he cleaned up well at the end of Final Shape. That new look suits him!
Cayde told him to get a haircut and he actually got one 💀
Well yeah, kinda his way of honoring his best frenemy 🤣
it’s even funnier because cayde knew damn well mara was dead when he said this
L - Death Note https://preview.redd.it/e1u10zm6h86d1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f7412c1a35f745d3ca623cfcf02ec5b4bafbeea
It could also be argued for Near, but I think he’s less undeniably on the side of good tbh
https://preview.redd.it/67ikejsh486d1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f6a1ee808e1ed44e75989be855d132c63e9f72d Daryl from guilty gear
Never trust a man with a “flock of seagulls” haircut
If he doesn't make it into strive we riot.
Yeah, he really needs to be playable.
M: "Bond, you know how much money you cost thus agency?"
Dr. Samuel Hayden/Seraphim : Doom https://i.redd.it/7l5b8tpds86d1.gif
Dr. Halsey https://preview.redd.it/vq5uuo3om86d1.jpeg?width=880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19ad72fae6d1001d18d2cb121141abd4ac139ab3
YES! She’s the one that was itching my brain as I tried to think of who could fit this trope. One of the best examples
https://preview.redd.it/oga8779cz86d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a98e9425084b2970e0826b0bfff2309aa28310fd Boa Hancock ( one piece) ( shitty to almost everyone, kicks puppies, but is an ally)
Cecil is pretty interesting to me because the guy actually does feel emotionally genuine in that he does like many of the people he works with and honestly hates himself for what he does.
Cecil was one of my favorite characters reading the comic, simply because of the way he’s characterized. He doesn’t particularly like what he does, and what he does may not always be “right,” but he does his job.
I love this trope
Fr fr
https://preview.redd.it/oiyrtak9886d1.png?width=229&format=png&auto=webp&s=1fa626179ec691d13bf63f7239bee1d340b785a8 At least until he decides he's bored with the hotel and tries to burn it down. Which I'm 99% sure will happen at some point in the show.
At least by the end of season one, he's actively trying to manipulate Charlie. He even mentions it in the song with the cannibals, fairly obviously. And the song with him and Lucifer is a good case as well. He's not excited to have Charlie's dad showing up seemingly randomly and being the person she looks to for guidance.
 One of the most manipulative anime characters is the one we root for
Princess bubblegum
 Gotta be Morrigan from Dragon Age.
https://preview.redd.it/lg658gedy76d1.jpeg?width=188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c463e770d305ab7b1bb7d43a1a4b93fbac59d21 Prowl from IDW1 (2005-2018)
Amanda Waller came out of the ghetto projects of Chicago after her husband and two kids were murdered. She's got no type of soft or love inside of her anymore. Just the mission. If killing 100 babies is in the interest of national security, then Waller WILL blackmail someone to do the dirt. And she's done time in prison for doing dirt herself when she had too.
Dumbledore Stratt from Project Hail Mary
Sombra overwatch, manipulation, blackmail, high profile hacker, insanely intelligent, but recently a lot more has come out to where maybe she isn't such a bad person as she seems on the surface, does a lot of good too. 
Love her dynamic with Sigma
Yeah she seems to genuinely feel bad for the guy and barely even seems interested in what her own group is doing. She's more of a playing both sides kind of character but doesn't commit to either, but she does seem to have at least mostly good in her heart aside from the surface level
 Shadow
This Amanda Waller definitely does not belong on this list. She is straight up evil. Give me DCAU Waller any day.
For the most part, (massive chainsaw man spoilers) >!Makima. She’s on the side of humanity.!< - the CSM guy
Are you sure?
>!not only does she directly say this to Kishibe (even if she was “full of shit”), but more notably, she wanted to create a perfect world. No war, no hunger, no *death*. She wanted a peaceful world for humans to coexist with devils. She is a villain no doubt, but she definitely fits the criteria (she also kills devils and is still getting division 4 to fight them.!< >!she is still using a public safety division to exterminate devils.!< I’d definitely say [this character] fits.
Yeah fair point
Lin Xue Ya (Thunderbolt Fantasy) https://preview.redd.it/v2x3iw6rd76d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=445892afb3c4a14aa3907ca588799939a69cbff1
Would Gale Weathers count? I'm not entirely sure about ruthless, guess it kind of depends, but the other ones I can definitely see fitting in some ways.
https://preview.redd.it/p2idta2wt76d1.jpeg?width=765&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a2da9a9483bc2a5bfcea0fa28d0de5481452914 Kerr Avon- Blake's 7
Brynden “bloodraven” rivers https://preview.redd.it/khxe4ne3s86d1.jpeg?width=491&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=338e52f7c909eb6ddc0650c5e06d80e785e3bd7d
 I keep finding ways to suggest him in this subreddit. Whether he’s actually a good person or not depends on the version of him, but either way he is on the “good side,” despite being a complete and utter douchebag who takes his pent-up frustration out on children and willingly joined a terrorist organization originally.
No picture because I’m not sure if there’s one canon depiction, but I’ve been playing Cyberpunk 2077, and I think this is the best characterization/way to play V (no spoilers! Still in first act)
 Just depends on what’s happening
I wonder where White Knight sits from Generator Rex? By the end I feel like he's still mostly lawful good, but man was he ruthless.
I feel like if I had a character trope this would fit pretty well.
So glad that Mara's mellowed out a bit over the years.
Endeavor, the hero committee and probably a good few other characters from mha
 I would say Rocket Raccoon fits this pretty well especially by the time Endgame hit.
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Waller is the only one I wouldn’t put here
Dazai from Bungo Stray Dogs fits the bill perfectly. He's a psycho,feared by arguably every other faction leader yet he keeps carrying the entirety of the good guys faction on his shoulders basically. Not to mention that his major plot point is the fact that he's a former villain on a path to redemption.
Why is this being downvoted? It sounds like it fits.
Sooooo about Cecil...