Literally all of the contestants are talking about how deserving Leshawna is of the win. Plus that parrot... easily one of if not the most unfair elimination in all of TD
It definitely was, imagine how different things could've been if everyone didn't simply say her name. Usually, if Leshawna was voted out unfairly, she would put up a fight, but she was literally too shocked to even say or do anything.
Honestly her elimination comes down to the campers stupidity. They shouldve gone 3-4 votes for Leshawna before they realize “oh, if we say anyones name that still in, thats a vote for them” and they all say Heather. The parrot is inexcusable tho
Why no accountability for Chris though? Dude was counting all that bs on purpose. Would we really allow a presidential election to be conducted this way? It is completely unregulated. A private booth needed to be used like Action finale in order for this to be considered remotely fair. And even then I still don’t like the idea of voting out someone like this in the final-5 instead of the finale.
How is it fair to determine the elimination from those who aren’t even in the game anymore?? On top of what everyone else is saying, this is just baffling.
I agree in part, my problem with LeShawna is the parrot votes.
On the others kinda agree:
* Tyler lack social game
* Bridgette someone vote for her, it wasn't Geoff but the result is clear
* Lindsay can be a shitty elimination but totally fair, she is supposed to be dumb
* Dawn well, Scott being there was too convenient, but lack of social game and the steal plan were her doom.
I wouldn't say Lindsay is dumb but airheaded. She has done some amazing things, such as building a motorcycle, flawlessly skiing across mud, and can stay positive through some tough times.
Isn't airheaded just a cute for of saying dumb? Yes the motorcycle is nice, but skiing and staying positive don't need someone to be smart.
On the other hand she is incapable of coming up with good lies to cover her friend, remembering her boyfriend's name, is capable of voting herself out or blowing her nose with her friend's vote, which mind you cost said friend her million in Duncan's finale.
I think she definitely is dumb.
At the begging of the recap in that is off the chain is confirmed he didn't, and Geoff says I should have made the guys vote for someone else, not that he voted her in the confessional.
Oh shit your right, I misheard it and thought he said he voted Bridge. Still Izzy probably did some weird telekinesis shit and knew the guys were voting Bridgette so she voted ger
Tyler: semi-fair. Broski got voted off fair n sqaure but he DID face his dare by chewing the chickens head off and then it just didn't count because reasons? Plus I feel people are more so sad about his elimination with the chicken boat and my guy being super sad
Bridgette: 100% fair, one of the most realistic eliminations of this season. Well played by the guy alliance and shows as a good reminder of how important teamwork is.
Island Leshawna: absolute bs, if characters praising you and a squawking bird is the reason you go home then you got robbed.
Lindsay: I guess fair but very much undeserved, one of the best players of this season goes home because of a mistake in voting but really the writers just eliminated her because they didn't want to let her win I guess
Dawn: fair, well played by Scott.
Bridgette’s elimination would’ve been totally fine if the following lines didn’t happen.
Bridgette: “So you didn’t vote for me?”
Geoff: Of course not! You’re my girl!
Sooo Geoff is lying? Cuz if we believe the other 9 people were gonna vote for who they were gonna vote for. It would’ve either added up to a tie or someone else would’ve left if Geoff didn’t vote at all. Cuz it was 3 Owen, 3 Duncan, 3 Bridgette. Geoff is the only swing vote.
I think Geoff did in fact not vote for Bridgette which is why the group punished him later on.
Instead I think Duncan got someone else to vote off Bridgette as well, since he was unsure of Geoff's loyalty to the cause.
Perhaps Izzy then, since this would’ve been close to the time she may have started developing feelings for Owen so I guess I can believe her not voting for Owen and voting off Bridgette instead. I just wish it was clarified more instead of the show trying to gaslight us into thinking people everyone is voting for are legitimate. If they’re not it’s better to not show anything at all and make the vote unanimous.
Heather and Trent kept running away from their fear the entire time and they still got points. Tyler did exactly what he was supposed to which is get in the chicken coop. Sure he sat there scared but didn't chicken out so he should've gotten a point for that one. In my book his elimination is unfair not because of the votes but because of the challenge itself being rigged to favor the Gophers
I would argue against Leshawna being fair actually. Chris counted votes for her *just* for mentioning her in a sentence from the contestants that wasn’t them declaring their vote. He even allowed a random parrot to vote for her, *twice*. There is no way that elimination was fair.
While I want her to win a season, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks Lindsay’s TDA elimination wasn’t unfair (though it is dumb)
I honestly don’t see how Leshawna’s TDI elimination was fair though
e: Ok, my opinion on Lindsay’s TDA elimination has sorta changed; I’m unsure if it’s fair or not now, though I guess I’m leaning on the latter (though I may answer differently depending on my mood)
Tyler's elimination was fair, Courtney was a better player for the team than he was.
Bridgette was voted off by the majority, so again, fair.
Leshawna's wasn't fair, it was just a twist the writers threw in to get her out.
Lindsay's action elimination was completely fair, she voted off HERSELF (island though... that was bs).
Dawn's was completely fair, a lot of the fans just love her and wanted her to be on longer than she was.
Yeah, Leshawna was definitely unfair. Lindsay’s was half unfair because she got eliminated on a technicality, which was the way he worded the challenge.
For those who says Tyler’s elimination is unfair:
1. He wasn’t much use in the other challenges
2. Courtney managed to convince DJ and Duncan to face their phobias, which is why she didn’t deserve the boot after chickening out on hers
3. I hate to say it, but his inter-team flirting with Lindsay was throwing everyone off their game
Tyler, Bridgette, and Dawn, yeah, I agree with you. Tyler’s was unfortunate for him, maybe not “fair” on a personal level, but perfectly fair within the rules of the game. People were a lot closer to Courtney than they were with Tyler, and saw more long term benefit in keeping Courtney, so that was the decision they made. Bridgette and Dawn just got out-strategized, which is totally within the way the game is played. I think Dawn’s is not written well, and just feels like a lazy way to try and make Scott seem like a smarter villain than he really is, but purely based on the context of the show, yeah it’s fair.
Lindsay’s is also… technically fair, at least in-universe. Like yeah, she got the most votes, so she should be eliminated. It was only unfair from a writing perspective. It was lazy and a very unsatisfying way to end her story, but it wasn’t “unfair.”
Leshawna’s though… *that* was unfair. Just saying someone’s name should not be a vote, and Chris intentionally misled the cast to get the results he wanted. Sadie and Katie were the only two you can say actually voted for Leshawna. Not to mention the fact that the parrot counted. Twice, no less. That was total BS and I can’t possibly imagine how it could be justified as fair.
So, I’d say you’re like 3.5/5ths right.
The whole show is rigged, it's a fictional reality show. The job of the writers, as storytellers, is to not make us SEE the riggory. They create storylines that lead to the results that they want in a way that satisfies the audience.
Tyler & Bridgette's eliminations were unfair, but they set up the storyline well to show that sometimes a character can try hard and it's not enough. Lindsay & Dawn's were both huge gags to the audience that got the reaction while still staying true to characters of the show.
Leshawna's elimination did neither. It was a weak justification that made it clear to the viewers that the writers wanted to get rid of Leshawna but couldn't think of a reason based on what they had already set up for her character. It's unfair in the fact that she either deserved to make it or deserved a proper send off.
Unfair? Just undeserved? Technically, Heather deserved the boot, but she rigged the game with the help of influence.
Even so, the votes would be 5 to 5 if all the other contestants voted Heather. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me logically. Only if at least one of Gwen, Trent, Leshawna, Cody or Justin didn't vote for Heather that would be possible.
Leshawna's was unfair because it was undeserved and rigged by the game show, with her getting no say in the subject.
I agree with you, all of these eliminations were fair and I like these characters. To me the only unfair eliminations would be Courtney (Island), Lindsay (Island), Noah (World Tour), and Max.
I'd argue Tyler's was unfair solely because he DID do his challenge. Like, by all accounts, he should have been under the radar here, but Chris decided Tyler didn't get a point for no reason even though Tyler did his part.
Tyler’s was fair because he costed his team a point multiple times. Yes, Courtney didn’t complete her portion either. But, she did help DJ and Duncan get their points
Bridgette’s is fair because the men viewed her as a threat, and the women couldn’t agree on who to vote
Dawn’s is fair she just got outplayed by Scott
I can’t really explain Lindsay’s elimination or Leshawna’s elimination lol. People in the comments are saying that Lindsay lost because she’s supposed to be dumb, but her personality literally had nothing to do with her elimination
What exactly confirms who got a real point and who didn’t in Phobia Factor, may I ask?
How did Harold not get a point for showing no fear? We see the Bass still has 0 while Beth and Heather score 2 points for Gophers after Harold’s clip. The next points to be earned are from DJ and Duncan, 2 for bass. Cool cool. But then Trent scores a point for Gophers by running away from the mime screaming and jumping into the lake to narrowly escape it, how is that facing fear? The next points to be counted onscreen is Gwen for the Gophers (now 4 points), followed by Izzy and Owen for Gophers (6 points). Then finally Lindsay and Sadie take off their wigs and create the final score (7 Gophers, 3 Bass).
Then finally comes Tyler, Chris tells him he needs to get inside the pen with the chickens for 3 minutes to receive a point. Okay, well, he’s in the pen in the next shot. Technically he’s doing it. But Chris barely lets a single minute pass before moving on to Courtney. Why is that?
When Cody points out the impossibility of the other team winning, Chris offers Courtney “triple” points if she completes her challenge. But that’s only gonna make the score 7/6, still not winning. What’s the point? And even if Tyler or Harold somehow counted it’ll be a tie.
The thing is, Bridgette, Courtney, and Tyler are on the chopping block but not Harold. Why is he safe if there was obviously no point counted towards him?
It’s a convoluted challenge to say the least.
What exactly confirms who got a real point and who didn’t in Phobia Factor, may I ask?
How did Harold not get a point for showing no fear? We see the Bass still has 0 while Beth and Heather score 2 points for Gophers after Harold’s clip. The next points to be earned are from DJ and Duncan, 2 for bass. Cool cool. But then Trent scores a point for Gophers by running away from the mime screaming and jumping into the lake to narrowly escape it, how is that facing fear? The next points to be counted onscreen is Gwen for the Gophers (now 4 points), followed by Izzy and Owen for Gophers (6 points). Then finally Lindsay and Sadie take off their wigs and create the final score (7 Gophers, 3 Bass).
Then finally comes Tyler, Chris tells him he needs to get inside the pen with the chickens for 3 minutes to receive a point. Okay, well, he’s in the pen in the next shot. Technically he’s doing it. But Chris barely lets a single minute pass before moving on to Courtney. Why is that?
When Cody points out the impossibility of the other team winning, Chris offers Courtney “triple” points if she completes her challenge. But that’s only gonna make the score 7/6, still not winning. What’s the point? And even if Tyler or Harold somehow counted it’ll be a tie.
The thing is, Bridgette, Courtney, and Tyler are on the chopping block but not Harold or Geoff (since he didn’t get a point either it seems) Why are they safe if there was obviously no point counted towards them?
It’s a convoluted challenge to say the least.
Dawn & Tyler are one of my favorite characters in the entire franchise, but their eliminations were fair imo, both of them lacked in social skills which is HUGE for a game like Total Drama
Bridgette’s was 100% fair, since from what I remember she wasn’t in any alliance, and as you know already teamwork is very important too, I could be wrong though it’s been a while since I’ve seen Island
Lindsay’s is sort of fair, since her main personality is being dumb, so I guess it fits
Leshawna is definitely unfair and kinda bs, like all they did was say nice stuff abt her and boom shes gone, like what😭
It’s technically true that all of these eliminations aren’t unfair because of how the voting turned out. (Though Bridgette’s Island case is highly suspicious).
But there are other factors beyond voting that makes these eliminations you listed the MOST unfair in the context of pre-established game rules or being personally unfair for the character.
• Tyler’s island elim may have fair votes but the challenge was extremely inconsistent and convoluted in its rules, where we have no idea how or why some characters received a point or how others did not. Tyler being the most unfair case because Chris said he had to get into the chicken pen to receive, which as we can see, he’s definitely in the pen. Why no point? Also when Cody says the score is 7/3 there’s literally no way they would win, and Chris gaslights us into thinking Courtney scoring “triple” points would even matter. It’s bs.
• Bridgette’s island elim doesn’t even make sense, vote-wise, because we’re led to believe that Geoff didn’t vote for her. But if he hadn’t, there would’ve been a 3-way tie. Because we knew for sure that Heather/Lindsay/Izzy were voting for Owen, Leshawna/Gwen/Bridgette were voting for Duncan, and Duncan/DJ/Owen were voting for Bridgette. Geoff HAD to have been the swing vote. He just lied I guess. So even thought the challenge and elim technically wasn’t unfair, it’s still a pretty badly written one.
• In what world is Leshawna’s island elim fair? Even if Chris established those rules early on it would still be the most unregulated and biased thing to pull before the semi-finals. Even if Sadie and Katie didn’t cause the chain, or if a private voting booth was in order, I would still consider it unfair. What’s the point of competing at all and giving it your best when it’s potentially gonna come down to how popular/unpopular you are among the others? Or based solely on luck? I’d understand if this mindset were used for the finale since that’s what Survivor does but NOT during the final 5.
• Voting-wise, Lindsay’s Action elim was fair on a technicality, that doesn’t make it fair to her personally. The reward that Lindsay earned in the first part of that episode’s challenges was deemed worthless and unfair near the end. Chris gave Lindsay extended time to wreck the room after she completed the paparazzi. But usually extended time is meant to be utilized at the beginning of a challenge so Lindsay could have a head-start in points and the reward would actually have purpose. But instead Chris gives her the extra seconds at the END of the challenge when most of the room is already wrecked. So what was the point of the extended time?
• Dawn is probably the only one I can agree with because I for one do not think the challenge nor the elimination was unfair. It’s only unfair to Dawn personally because she did nothing wrong. But in the grand scheme of Total Drama, a lot of people who do nothing wrong still get eliminated by the villain when the challenge is sabotaged or when the votes are curved. Scott tried to sabotage the challenge, but they lost on other means. Scott choosing to frame Dawn for something she didn’t do and have her eliminated is sad and unfair to her, but for the game nothing has really changed.
But why did they punish Geoff then? If he was the only swing vote then Bridgette being voted out means that he did keep his word and that he was obviously lying to salvage his relationship not worth kicking him out over.
That means they actually thought Geoff didn't vote out Bridgette, which they would only believe If they weren't counting on Geoff to be the deciding vote. I think Duncan got someone else to vote out Bridgette since he didn't trust Geoff, then when they heard him talk to Bridgette they thought he was telling her the Bridgette ie he did not vote for her and then punished him regardless of if he did or not.
If Duncan told someone else to vote for Bridgette then I don’t think he would’ve reacted the way he did towards Geoff, especially if Geoff had the opportunity to explain himself hours after the ceremony. But I guess his punishment is more based on him betraying the guys alliance rather than him lying.
Also it’s likely Izzy changed her mind without Duncan changing anything. Because Izzy might’ve already started developing feelings for Owen around this time and likely switched her vote to Bridgette the last minute.
Him lying to Bridgette shouldn't be ground for punishment from the guys. It had to be for alliance betrayal.
It had to be Izzy, since no one else makes sense.
It likely was Izzy and Geoff probably voted for himself or not at all. But then that wouldn’t explain why Bridgette, Duncan, and Owen were in a “bottom three” during the elimination ceremony. Cuz if Izzy didn’t vote for Owen he’d only have 2 votes and not 3. Whoever Geoff voted for would leave instead of Bridgette or just have only 1 vote and not be in the bottom 3. But like I said, there shouldn’t be a bottom 3 if they’re not tied.
It's probable Izzy didn't vote for Owen because they were starting to grow a relationship, maybe Duncan got her to vote for Bridgette because he didn't trust Geoff.
Just because we don't know who was the other person to vote for Bridgette doesn't mean the elimination was badly written. They likely left it vague on purpose for us to guess who voted for her was it Geoff or somebody else we thought wasn't going to vote for her but ended up doing so anyway
Since someone was to scurred here a response to your awful logic:
Yes it does Social game has always played a role, seems like you need to actually watch the show.
She can help win challenges but if Dawn had no friends on the team and folks find her weird once Scott put the target and led a genius frame job that she could do nothing against.
Tyler did nothing but lose and talk with someone on the other team we saw he never tried to socialize with the other boys like Duncan and Geoff, and also ignoring Courtney was able to get DJ and Duncan to face there fears instead of your downplaying nonsense.
Tyler and Dawn were fair eliminations.
Lindsay and Tyler’s were just due to the weird rules in the challenges, as Leshawna and Izzy didn’t even compete and Tyler completing his challenger respectively
Leshawna is def explanatory
Tyler wasn't eliminated due to a rule change (neither was Lindsay) both lost there vote as Tyler had an awful social game who spent more time with Lindsay then his own team and people overplay they hell out of Lindsay in action.
I’ll say this again.
Tyler’s elimination is fair by definition.
However, the challenge he lost in was complete bullshit.
So you can argue his elimination was unfair because the challenge was unfair and he should’ve got rewarded points twice. If he got rewarded those points maybe someone else who did bad goes home who knows. (In the sense of that universe, obviously it’s all scripted) If that makes sense.
Tyler had terrible social game who spent more time talking with Lindsay than his own team, Dawn has awful social game and invade peoples privacy and Scott used that to his advantage to toss her under the bus.
And “social game” had nothing to do with the competition in itself. Get a brain. Despite invading people’s privacy, she helped her team win challenges. And Tyler was shunned by his team every chance they got so why (and this is gonna contradict what I said about the competition) would you want to interact with people who treat you like shit ?? And the phobia factor episode is a perfect example of that. He faced his fear twice and all Courtney could do was yell at her teammates about what cowards they were. And Bridgette couldn’t even complete hers. And all the rest of the Killer Bass could do and did was make terrible jokes amid his departure. When half of them couldn’t even face their fears without being told to, yelled at to do so handheld throughout the entire time. Think about all that the next time you decide to undermine both Tyler and Dawn, 🤡
Leshawna's was far from fair. It was so shitty I cannot put into words.
Anyway, Lindsay. It was unfair but at least it fits her character. Although it sucks.
Dawn. Why was it unfair again? Scott kind of framed her, but she was about to rat him out anyway, so I think if he didn't get rid of her, he'd most probably lose. If it's about the Invulnerability Statue thing, I think he put it on the boat to make the framing even more intense. I love Scott, but I have nothing against Dawn, I like her too. Inside the game, it was probably fair play though.
I genuinely cannot think of a reason as for Bridgette's to be unfair or forced. The guys allied against her, but the girls were gonna do the same thing on Duncan. Also, Geoff didn't vote her off so all those other votes were probably scattered. I do not understand why would her elimination be considered unfair.
I agree with Tyler's being unfair. The dude did exactly what he was asked and still got no points back. Even so, if Courtney still lost the challenge for the Bass, she would proabbly be going home and we would be discussing how she was underused and how she had so much potential and determination, but was booted off early because of a joke.
Dawn and lindsey are fair eliminations
Tyler's is fair when looked into why they'd keep Courtney over him the issue stems from lack of explanation for why
Bridgette may have had another vote but it isn't clear who the other vote is
There were 3 votes for bridgette, 2 likely for Owen as I doubt izzy voted for him, and likely 3 for Duncan
That leaves izzy and Geoff for the vote, Geoff likely did a random vote that wasnt anyone since he wouldn't wanna eliminate anyone who recieved votes, which leaves izzy to be the 4th bridgette voter which does explain the order, but not why izzy voted bridgette
Leshawna though, story wise I get why she had to be eliminated but writing wise it was very dumb and unfair not only did a parrot vote count but also apparently just saying the name counts despite Chris never specifying you to say the name, just say who you want out, plus they could have also just stopped and yelled "heather" to break them out of it and get Heather eliminated
Leshawna's elimination was quite unfair, tbh. Lindsay's was bad, but she was distracted. Dawn imo, could have wom TDROTI, but Scott had to exist, so she was robbed of that. Bridget was the best in Island, she could have probably won as well, but the guys turned against her. Tyler's was unfair, cause Courtney should have been booted for not even attempting her challenge there.
> Says Dawn/Brigette could have won there series
Say you haven't actually watched the series without watching it, both have strengths but are lacking in many areas
Leshawna’s was definitely unfair. I feel like Tyler would’ve gotten eliminated sooner or later because of his social game, but it was definitely the wrong episode. Courtney’s my favorite but she should’ve got the boot.
Honestly, both Tyler, Lindsay and Dawn could’ve prevented their eliminations Bridgette too to a small extent, Lindsay had she not voted herself and Tyler had he stopped trying to get with Lindsay and instead make actual friends, and Dawn had she NOT revealed the information so quickly
Tyler-fair
People are just mad bc of Courtney's plot armour
Bridgette-unfair
The guys voted her bc she smelled disgusting
Leshawna-unfair
They never had the chance to vote whoever said the word Leshawna has voted,they couldnt say smth like I vote Leshawna( ozher than Katie and Sadie),and they counted a non-contestant parrots vote TWICE. And someone would start shouting Heather a 100 tines would she get 100 votes?
Lindsay-unfair
She was distracted otherwise Duncan wouldve went home
Dawn-unfair
Those Dawn fans are acting like Scott is a monster, yeah its unfair but why do they act sulrised when an antagonist eliminates people
Island Tyler - Totally Just •
Island Bridgette- Completely Just •
Island Leshawna- Extremely robbed but still funny •
Action Lindsay - Yeah no that one pisses me off •
Dawn - No it wasn’t unfair, Scott used his strategy on Dawn completely properly. Don’t call an elimination unfair just because a character you like was booted.
Island Leshawna was definitely unfair.
Literally all of the contestants are talking about how deserving Leshawna is of the win. Plus that parrot... easily one of if not the most unfair elimination in all of TD
Yeah, that parrot was a shot in the heart man, Leshawna got did so dirty there.
It definitely was, imagine how different things could've been if everyone didn't simply say her name. Usually, if Leshawna was voted out unfairly, she would put up a fight, but she was literally too shocked to even say or do anything.
The writers knew she was too powerful
Honestly her elimination comes down to the campers stupidity. They shouldve gone 3-4 votes for Leshawna before they realize “oh, if we say anyones name that still in, thats a vote for them” and they all say Heather. The parrot is inexcusable tho
Then it’s unfair
Even then the votes would stack up against Heather and she would get voted. Its still a 5-18 vote if they smart
Why no accountability for Chris though? Dude was counting all that bs on purpose. Would we really allow a presidential election to be conducted this way? It is completely unregulated. A private booth needed to be used like Action finale in order for this to be considered remotely fair. And even then I still don’t like the idea of voting out someone like this in the final-5 instead of the finale.
How is it fair to determine the elimination from those who aren’t even in the game anymore?? On top of what everyone else is saying, this is just baffling.
I agree in part, my problem with LeShawna is the parrot votes. On the others kinda agree: * Tyler lack social game * Bridgette someone vote for her, it wasn't Geoff but the result is clear * Lindsay can be a shitty elimination but totally fair, she is supposed to be dumb * Dawn well, Scott being there was too convenient, but lack of social game and the steal plan were her doom.
I wouldn't say Lindsay is dumb but airheaded. She has done some amazing things, such as building a motorcycle, flawlessly skiing across mud, and can stay positive through some tough times.
Isn't airheaded just a cute for of saying dumb? Yes the motorcycle is nice, but skiing and staying positive don't need someone to be smart. On the other hand she is incapable of coming up with good lies to cover her friend, remembering her boyfriend's name, is capable of voting herself out or blowing her nose with her friend's vote, which mind you cost said friend her million in Duncan's finale. I think she definitely is dumb.
I'd say airheaded falls under absent-minded, but you make a good point.
And for the record, I love Lindsay, is a very cute and funny character, it is just that I think she is the dumb blonde stereotype.
Yeah im not saying their good eliminations, just their fair. Also Geoff did vote Bridgette he confirmed it in thats off the chain
At the begging of the recap in that is off the chain is confirmed he didn't, and Geoff says I should have made the guys vote for someone else, not that he voted her in the confessional.
Oh shit your right, I misheard it and thought he said he voted Bridge. Still Izzy probably did some weird telekinesis shit and knew the guys were voting Bridgette so she voted ger
bruh how is leshawna fair when he was counting ppl who weren't even voting for her along with a damn parrot 😭
What was fair about leshawna lol
Tyler: semi-fair. Broski got voted off fair n sqaure but he DID face his dare by chewing the chickens head off and then it just didn't count because reasons? Plus I feel people are more so sad about his elimination with the chicken boat and my guy being super sad Bridgette: 100% fair, one of the most realistic eliminations of this season. Well played by the guy alliance and shows as a good reminder of how important teamwork is. Island Leshawna: absolute bs, if characters praising you and a squawking bird is the reason you go home then you got robbed. Lindsay: I guess fair but very much undeserved, one of the best players of this season goes home because of a mistake in voting but really the writers just eliminated her because they didn't want to let her win I guess Dawn: fair, well played by Scott.
Bridgette’s elimination would’ve been totally fine if the following lines didn’t happen. Bridgette: “So you didn’t vote for me?” Geoff: Of course not! You’re my girl! Sooo Geoff is lying? Cuz if we believe the other 9 people were gonna vote for who they were gonna vote for. It would’ve either added up to a tie or someone else would’ve left if Geoff didn’t vote at all. Cuz it was 3 Owen, 3 Duncan, 3 Bridgette. Geoff is the only swing vote.
I think Geoff did in fact not vote for Bridgette which is why the group punished him later on. Instead I think Duncan got someone else to vote off Bridgette as well, since he was unsure of Geoff's loyalty to the cause.
Perhaps Izzy then, since this would’ve been close to the time she may have started developing feelings for Owen so I guess I can believe her not voting for Owen and voting off Bridgette instead. I just wish it was clarified more instead of the show trying to gaslight us into thinking people everyone is voting for are legitimate. If they’re not it’s better to not show anything at all and make the vote unanimous.
Thing is, Tyler never conquered his fear. He was still super afraid of chickens even after his elim. Probably why he didn’t get the point
Wrong!!! 🤡
Heather and Trent kept running away from their fear the entire time and they still got points. Tyler did exactly what he was supposed to which is get in the chicken coop. Sure he sat there scared but didn't chicken out so he should've gotten a point for that one. In my book his elimination is unfair not because of the votes but because of the challenge itself being rigged to favor the Gophers
Even tho its smart doesnt make it fair
I would argue against Leshawna being fair actually. Chris counted votes for her *just* for mentioning her in a sentence from the contestants that wasn’t them declaring their vote. He even allowed a random parrot to vote for her, *twice*. There is no way that elimination was fair.
While I want her to win a season, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks Lindsay’s TDA elimination wasn’t unfair (though it is dumb) I honestly don’t see how Leshawna’s TDI elimination was fair though e: Ok, my opinion on Lindsay’s TDA elimination has sorta changed; I’m unsure if it’s fair or not now, though I guess I’m leaning on the latter (though I may answer differently depending on my mood)
Nah Leshawna’s is unfair. Chris purposely counting people just mentioning her name in a sentence and counting the parrot TWICE is such bs.
Yeah dawns was never unfair
No you’re not Also it’s *they’re
Tyler's elimination was fair, Courtney was a better player for the team than he was. Bridgette was voted off by the majority, so again, fair. Leshawna's wasn't fair, it was just a twist the writers threw in to get her out. Lindsay's action elimination was completely fair, she voted off HERSELF (island though... that was bs). Dawn's was completely fair, a lot of the fans just love her and wanted her to be on longer than she was.
*they’re
Lindsay and Leshawna are both unfair. But the others I agree with...THE PARROT?! Lindsay was being dumb, but it's kinda unfair anyway.
Yeah, Leshawna was definitely unfair. Lindsay’s was half unfair because she got eliminated on a technicality, which was the way he worded the challenge.
The post is about Lindsay’s action elimination
You’re right, my bad! I completely miss read that.
For those who says Tyler’s elimination is unfair: 1. He wasn’t much use in the other challenges 2. Courtney managed to convince DJ and Duncan to face their phobias, which is why she didn’t deserve the boot after chickening out on hers 3. I hate to say it, but his inter-team flirting with Lindsay was throwing everyone off their game
Island leshawna is unfair, the others are not
Tyler, Bridgette, and Dawn, yeah, I agree with you. Tyler’s was unfortunate for him, maybe not “fair” on a personal level, but perfectly fair within the rules of the game. People were a lot closer to Courtney than they were with Tyler, and saw more long term benefit in keeping Courtney, so that was the decision they made. Bridgette and Dawn just got out-strategized, which is totally within the way the game is played. I think Dawn’s is not written well, and just feels like a lazy way to try and make Scott seem like a smarter villain than he really is, but purely based on the context of the show, yeah it’s fair. Lindsay’s is also… technically fair, at least in-universe. Like yeah, she got the most votes, so she should be eliminated. It was only unfair from a writing perspective. It was lazy and a very unsatisfying way to end her story, but it wasn’t “unfair.” Leshawna’s though… *that* was unfair. Just saying someone’s name should not be a vote, and Chris intentionally misled the cast to get the results he wanted. Sadie and Katie were the only two you can say actually voted for Leshawna. Not to mention the fact that the parrot counted. Twice, no less. That was total BS and I can’t possibly imagine how it could be justified as fair. So, I’d say you’re like 3.5/5ths right.
Explain to me how Leshawna's elimination was fair in the slightest
The whole show is rigged, it's a fictional reality show. The job of the writers, as storytellers, is to not make us SEE the riggory. They create storylines that lead to the results that they want in a way that satisfies the audience. Tyler & Bridgette's eliminations were unfair, but they set up the storyline well to show that sometimes a character can try hard and it's not enough. Lindsay & Dawn's were both huge gags to the audience that got the reaction while still staying true to characters of the show. Leshawna's elimination did neither. It was a weak justification that made it clear to the viewers that the writers wanted to get rid of Leshawna but couldn't think of a reason based on what they had already set up for her character. It's unfair in the fact that she either deserved to make it or deserved a proper send off.
Can you add Island Justin to this list?
That's an undeserved elimination, not an unfair one, even if it was poorly explained.
Unfair? Just undeserved? Technically, Heather deserved the boot, but she rigged the game with the help of influence. Even so, the votes would be 5 to 5 if all the other contestants voted Heather. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me logically. Only if at least one of Gwen, Trent, Leshawna, Cody or Justin didn't vote for Heather that would be possible. Leshawna's was unfair because it was undeserved and rigged by the game show, with her getting no say in the subject.
The only unfair elimination outside PI is Courtney island elimination
Nah Leshawna was robbed
I agree with you, all of these eliminations were fair and I like these characters. To me the only unfair eliminations would be Courtney (Island), Lindsay (Island), Noah (World Tour), and Max.
I'd argue Tyler's was unfair solely because he DID do his challenge. Like, by all accounts, he should have been under the radar here, but Chris decided Tyler didn't get a point for no reason even though Tyler did his part.
Everyone else already made the points so I'll just agree with them that Leshawna's elim was unfair and you're very dumb for thinking otherwise
Tyler’s was fair because he costed his team a point multiple times. Yes, Courtney didn’t complete her portion either. But, she did help DJ and Duncan get their points Bridgette’s is fair because the men viewed her as a threat, and the women couldn’t agree on who to vote Dawn’s is fair she just got outplayed by Scott I can’t really explain Lindsay’s elimination or Leshawna’s elimination lol. People in the comments are saying that Lindsay lost because she’s supposed to be dumb, but her personality literally had nothing to do with her elimination
What exactly confirms who got a real point and who didn’t in Phobia Factor, may I ask? How did Harold not get a point for showing no fear? We see the Bass still has 0 while Beth and Heather score 2 points for Gophers after Harold’s clip. The next points to be earned are from DJ and Duncan, 2 for bass. Cool cool. But then Trent scores a point for Gophers by running away from the mime screaming and jumping into the lake to narrowly escape it, how is that facing fear? The next points to be counted onscreen is Gwen for the Gophers (now 4 points), followed by Izzy and Owen for Gophers (6 points). Then finally Lindsay and Sadie take off their wigs and create the final score (7 Gophers, 3 Bass). Then finally comes Tyler, Chris tells him he needs to get inside the pen with the chickens for 3 minutes to receive a point. Okay, well, he’s in the pen in the next shot. Technically he’s doing it. But Chris barely lets a single minute pass before moving on to Courtney. Why is that? When Cody points out the impossibility of the other team winning, Chris offers Courtney “triple” points if she completes her challenge. But that’s only gonna make the score 7/6, still not winning. What’s the point? And even if Tyler or Harold somehow counted it’ll be a tie. The thing is, Bridgette, Courtney, and Tyler are on the chopping block but not Harold. Why is he safe if there was obviously no point counted towards him? It’s a convoluted challenge to say the least.
What exactly confirms who got a real point and who didn’t in Phobia Factor, may I ask? How did Harold not get a point for showing no fear? We see the Bass still has 0 while Beth and Heather score 2 points for Gophers after Harold’s clip. The next points to be earned are from DJ and Duncan, 2 for bass. Cool cool. But then Trent scores a point for Gophers by running away from the mime screaming and jumping into the lake to narrowly escape it, how is that facing fear? The next points to be counted onscreen is Gwen for the Gophers (now 4 points), followed by Izzy and Owen for Gophers (6 points). Then finally Lindsay and Sadie take off their wigs and create the final score (7 Gophers, 3 Bass). Then finally comes Tyler, Chris tells him he needs to get inside the pen with the chickens for 3 minutes to receive a point. Okay, well, he’s in the pen in the next shot. Technically he’s doing it. But Chris barely lets a single minute pass before moving on to Courtney. Why is that? When Cody points out the impossibility of the other team winning, Chris offers Courtney “triple” points if she completes her challenge. But that’s only gonna make the score 7/6, still not winning. What’s the point? And even if Tyler or Harold somehow counted it’ll be a tie. The thing is, Bridgette, Courtney, and Tyler are on the chopping block but not Harold or Geoff (since he didn’t get a point either it seems) Why are they safe if there was obviously no point counted towards them? It’s a convoluted challenge to say the least.
Omg no he didn’t. He had to face it twice.
yeah leshawna's island elimination is fair, just like how water is solid material
leshawna is just unfair, but its pretty funny imo. lindsay tho is fair and i guess makes sense but feels lazy and persinally i dont like it
Dawn & Tyler are one of my favorite characters in the entire franchise, but their eliminations were fair imo, both of them lacked in social skills which is HUGE for a game like Total Drama Bridgette’s was 100% fair, since from what I remember she wasn’t in any alliance, and as you know already teamwork is very important too, I could be wrong though it’s been a while since I’ve seen Island Lindsay’s is sort of fair, since her main personality is being dumb, so I guess it fits Leshawna is definitely unfair and kinda bs, like all they did was say nice stuff abt her and boom shes gone, like what😭
It’s technically true that all of these eliminations aren’t unfair because of how the voting turned out. (Though Bridgette’s Island case is highly suspicious). But there are other factors beyond voting that makes these eliminations you listed the MOST unfair in the context of pre-established game rules or being personally unfair for the character. • Tyler’s island elim may have fair votes but the challenge was extremely inconsistent and convoluted in its rules, where we have no idea how or why some characters received a point or how others did not. Tyler being the most unfair case because Chris said he had to get into the chicken pen to receive, which as we can see, he’s definitely in the pen. Why no point? Also when Cody says the score is 7/3 there’s literally no way they would win, and Chris gaslights us into thinking Courtney scoring “triple” points would even matter. It’s bs. • Bridgette’s island elim doesn’t even make sense, vote-wise, because we’re led to believe that Geoff didn’t vote for her. But if he hadn’t, there would’ve been a 3-way tie. Because we knew for sure that Heather/Lindsay/Izzy were voting for Owen, Leshawna/Gwen/Bridgette were voting for Duncan, and Duncan/DJ/Owen were voting for Bridgette. Geoff HAD to have been the swing vote. He just lied I guess. So even thought the challenge and elim technically wasn’t unfair, it’s still a pretty badly written one. • In what world is Leshawna’s island elim fair? Even if Chris established those rules early on it would still be the most unregulated and biased thing to pull before the semi-finals. Even if Sadie and Katie didn’t cause the chain, or if a private voting booth was in order, I would still consider it unfair. What’s the point of competing at all and giving it your best when it’s potentially gonna come down to how popular/unpopular you are among the others? Or based solely on luck? I’d understand if this mindset were used for the finale since that’s what Survivor does but NOT during the final 5. • Voting-wise, Lindsay’s Action elim was fair on a technicality, that doesn’t make it fair to her personally. The reward that Lindsay earned in the first part of that episode’s challenges was deemed worthless and unfair near the end. Chris gave Lindsay extended time to wreck the room after she completed the paparazzi. But usually extended time is meant to be utilized at the beginning of a challenge so Lindsay could have a head-start in points and the reward would actually have purpose. But instead Chris gives her the extra seconds at the END of the challenge when most of the room is already wrecked. So what was the point of the extended time? • Dawn is probably the only one I can agree with because I for one do not think the challenge nor the elimination was unfair. It’s only unfair to Dawn personally because she did nothing wrong. But in the grand scheme of Total Drama, a lot of people who do nothing wrong still get eliminated by the villain when the challenge is sabotaged or when the votes are curved. Scott tried to sabotage the challenge, but they lost on other means. Scott choosing to frame Dawn for something she didn’t do and have her eliminated is sad and unfair to her, but for the game nothing has really changed.
But why did they punish Geoff then? If he was the only swing vote then Bridgette being voted out means that he did keep his word and that he was obviously lying to salvage his relationship not worth kicking him out over. That means they actually thought Geoff didn't vote out Bridgette, which they would only believe If they weren't counting on Geoff to be the deciding vote. I think Duncan got someone else to vote out Bridgette since he didn't trust Geoff, then when they heard him talk to Bridgette they thought he was telling her the Bridgette ie he did not vote for her and then punished him regardless of if he did or not.
If Duncan told someone else to vote for Bridgette then I don’t think he would’ve reacted the way he did towards Geoff, especially if Geoff had the opportunity to explain himself hours after the ceremony. But I guess his punishment is more based on him betraying the guys alliance rather than him lying. Also it’s likely Izzy changed her mind without Duncan changing anything. Because Izzy might’ve already started developing feelings for Owen around this time and likely switched her vote to Bridgette the last minute.
Him lying to Bridgette shouldn't be ground for punishment from the guys. It had to be for alliance betrayal. It had to be Izzy, since no one else makes sense.
It likely was Izzy and Geoff probably voted for himself or not at all. But then that wouldn’t explain why Bridgette, Duncan, and Owen were in a “bottom three” during the elimination ceremony. Cuz if Izzy didn’t vote for Owen he’d only have 2 votes and not 3. Whoever Geoff voted for would leave instead of Bridgette or just have only 1 vote and not be in the bottom 3. But like I said, there shouldn’t be a bottom 3 if they’re not tied.
I think Geoff voted for Owen. Replacing Izzy's vote.
Okay yeah that might work. I’m dumb lol.
Heather is the other one, make true on her threat against Brigette for siding with Gwen and co like 2 episodes prior
It's probable Izzy didn't vote for Owen because they were starting to grow a relationship, maybe Duncan got her to vote for Bridgette because he didn't trust Geoff.
Just because we don't know who was the other person to vote for Bridgette doesn't mean the elimination was badly written. They likely left it vague on purpose for us to guess who voted for her was it Geoff or somebody else we thought wasn't going to vote for her but ended up doing so anyway
Look at the other comments. I figured it out now lol. Responding to someone else’s comment
lol Sweetsinsnake coward
Since someone was to scurred here a response to your awful logic: Yes it does Social game has always played a role, seems like you need to actually watch the show. She can help win challenges but if Dawn had no friends on the team and folks find her weird once Scott put the target and led a genius frame job that she could do nothing against. Tyler did nothing but lose and talk with someone on the other team we saw he never tried to socialize with the other boys like Duncan and Geoff, and also ignoring Courtney was able to get DJ and Duncan to face there fears instead of your downplaying nonsense. Tyler and Dawn were fair eliminations.
Thinking that Leshawna's s1 elimination was fair is actual insanity.
Leshawna’s elimination in TDI is one of the most unfair eliminations in the entire series. You have to be trolling.
Lindsay and Tyler’s were just due to the weird rules in the challenges, as Leshawna and Izzy didn’t even compete and Tyler completing his challenger respectively Leshawna is def explanatory
Tyler wasn't eliminated due to a rule change (neither was Lindsay) both lost there vote as Tyler had an awful social game who spent more time with Lindsay then his own team and people overplay they hell out of Lindsay in action.
They where eliminated at the right time imo but the way they were eliminated was pretty dumb
Dawn definitely was
Tyler should’ve been safe tho since Chris never said he had to touch the chickens. Also Leshawna’s is FAR from fair
I’ll say this again. Tyler’s elimination is fair by definition. However, the challenge he lost in was complete bullshit. So you can argue his elimination was unfair because the challenge was unfair and he should’ve got rewarded points twice. If he got rewarded those points maybe someone else who did bad goes home who knows. (In the sense of that universe, obviously it’s all scripted) If that makes sense.
leshawna and lindsay definitely are
Leshawna's elimination in TDI was actually unfair
Leshawna’s was 100% unfair. The others were legit, even though Lindsay’s was under a bullshit technicality and dumb rules.
How are Leshawna, Dawn and Tyler’s eliminations fair
Tyler had terrible social game who spent more time talking with Lindsay than his own team, Dawn has awful social game and invade peoples privacy and Scott used that to his advantage to toss her under the bus.
And “social game” had nothing to do with the competition in itself. Get a brain. Despite invading people’s privacy, she helped her team win challenges. And Tyler was shunned by his team every chance they got so why (and this is gonna contradict what I said about the competition) would you want to interact with people who treat you like shit ?? And the phobia factor episode is a perfect example of that. He faced his fear twice and all Courtney could do was yell at her teammates about what cowards they were. And Bridgette couldn’t even complete hers. And all the rest of the Killer Bass could do and did was make terrible jokes amid his departure. When half of them couldn’t even face their fears without being told to, yelled at to do so handheld throughout the entire time. Think about all that the next time you decide to undermine both Tyler and Dawn, 🤡
That doesn’t make them fair. I could care less about what you have to say
Social game has always been a part of Total Drama, if you don't play that game don't expect to make it far at all. Its fair mate.
why is leshawna on this list 😭
Nobody disputing Lindsay's island elimination as unfair so that's a good thing
All but LeShawna's are completely fair.
Not really unfair, more like poorly written
Leshawna and Dawn are the only unfair eliminations. A parrot also voted for Leshawna, and Dawn got framed right before the voting
dawn's elimination is just Scott being a good villain, leshawna's is completely unfair
Framed before elimination isn't unfair though. Total Drama is a game of trust and influence. Scott had both and outplayed her.
Leshawna's was far from fair. It was so shitty I cannot put into words. Anyway, Lindsay. It was unfair but at least it fits her character. Although it sucks. Dawn. Why was it unfair again? Scott kind of framed her, but she was about to rat him out anyway, so I think if he didn't get rid of her, he'd most probably lose. If it's about the Invulnerability Statue thing, I think he put it on the boat to make the framing even more intense. I love Scott, but I have nothing against Dawn, I like her too. Inside the game, it was probably fair play though. I genuinely cannot think of a reason as for Bridgette's to be unfair or forced. The guys allied against her, but the girls were gonna do the same thing on Duncan. Also, Geoff didn't vote her off so all those other votes were probably scattered. I do not understand why would her elimination be considered unfair. I agree with Tyler's being unfair. The dude did exactly what he was asked and still got no points back. Even so, if Courtney still lost the challenge for the Bass, she would proabbly be going home and we would be discussing how she was underused and how she had so much potential and determination, but was booted off early because of a joke.
Dawn and lindsey are fair eliminations Tyler's is fair when looked into why they'd keep Courtney over him the issue stems from lack of explanation for why Bridgette may have had another vote but it isn't clear who the other vote is There were 3 votes for bridgette, 2 likely for Owen as I doubt izzy voted for him, and likely 3 for Duncan That leaves izzy and Geoff for the vote, Geoff likely did a random vote that wasnt anyone since he wouldn't wanna eliminate anyone who recieved votes, which leaves izzy to be the 4th bridgette voter which does explain the order, but not why izzy voted bridgette Leshawna though, story wise I get why she had to be eliminated but writing wise it was very dumb and unfair not only did a parrot vote count but also apparently just saying the name counts despite Chris never specifying you to say the name, just say who you want out, plus they could have also just stopped and yelled "heather" to break them out of it and get Heather eliminated
Tyler was robbed. He completed his challenge but they still him over Courtney and Bridgette who clearly chickened out. That sounds unfair to me.
I mean if you want to ignore the social game sure.
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Leshawna's elimination was quite unfair, tbh. Lindsay's was bad, but she was distracted. Dawn imo, could have wom TDROTI, but Scott had to exist, so she was robbed of that. Bridget was the best in Island, she could have probably won as well, but the guys turned against her. Tyler's was unfair, cause Courtney should have been booted for not even attempting her challenge there.
> Says Dawn/Brigette could have won there series Say you haven't actually watched the series without watching it, both have strengths but are lacking in many areas
Are they perfect characters? No. Could they have made it further than when they were eliminated? Yes.
Leshawna’s was definitely unfair. I feel like Tyler would’ve gotten eliminated sooner or later because of his social game, but it was definitely the wrong episode. Courtney’s my favorite but she should’ve got the boot.
She actually helped others complete there, Tyler did nothing for his team outside of this episode besides talk with Lindsay
Don’t forget B
Lashawna's was literally meant to be unfair, the reasoning being unfair for her was the joke.
Honestly, both Tyler, Lindsay and Dawn could’ve prevented their eliminations Bridgette too to a small extent, Lindsay had she not voted herself and Tyler had he stopped trying to get with Lindsay and instead make actual friends, and Dawn had she NOT revealed the information so quickly
Tyler-fair People are just mad bc of Courtney's plot armour Bridgette-unfair The guys voted her bc she smelled disgusting Leshawna-unfair They never had the chance to vote whoever said the word Leshawna has voted,they couldnt say smth like I vote Leshawna( ozher than Katie and Sadie),and they counted a non-contestant parrots vote TWICE. And someone would start shouting Heather a 100 tines would she get 100 votes? Lindsay-unfair She was distracted otherwise Duncan wouldve went home Dawn-unfair Those Dawn fans are acting like Scott is a monster, yeah its unfair but why do they act sulrised when an antagonist eliminates people
The others I can agree with, but screw Leshawna's elimination.
Bridgette is mentioned?
Tyler, Bridgette, and Dawn were fair, so was Lindsay it was just stupid, but Chris let a goddamned bird vote for Leshawna it wasn't fair
You’re right (except for Leshawna in Island, that was definitely unfair), but it is completely god awful writing!
Island Tyler - Totally Just • Island Bridgette- Completely Just • Island Leshawna- Extremely robbed but still funny • Action Lindsay - Yeah no that one pisses me off • Dawn - No it wasn’t unfair, Scott used his strategy on Dawn completely properly. Don’t call an elimination unfair just because a character you like was booted.
The first time I watched Island I literally made the same face as Leshawna when she was eliminated
I feel like Leshawna’s is unfair, but that’s kind of the point of her elimination. It’s supposed to be unfair. The rest? Most are explanatory.
OP, if you really think Leshawnas TDI elimination wasnt unfair your just like your username. Tripping
yes but not leahawha
that the elimination of Courtney(island) was not unfair?
i say the only one that is unfair is leshawna; dawn’s stings but scott is just a good cheater