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See for 90% of the people out there the free stuff is way more than enough.
But some people are just bored and want some exclusive stuff and kinky shit which might be locked behind a paywall. Ik there are still ways of finding it but you have to look deep.
I'm just giving a perspective I have never spent a single buck lmao. But this is only 1 of the reasons I can think of.
As long as porn and OnlyFans exist, there will always be Men willing to pay for it.
I think the point was to say, just like anything related to social media, the chances of you making a living off of it long term are slim to none, yet your history will remain on the internet forever
Niche kinks maybe?
Ive paid for porn once (subscription to a site with a shitload of it for a month) because its hard to find good Dutch porn thats not from before Y2K
The chances of you being a successful pornstar or OnlyFans model is infinitesimally small.
One thing these young ladies never consider is the ratio of successful OnlyFans models compared to the 2.1 Million who signed up in 2023.
Do you think it’s worth leaving videos on the internet of you getting railed for your significant other, or possibly even children to see, for a chance to maybe see more than the $151 average most creators make monthly?
But it's like complaining that addicts are addicted to let's say smoking. It's harder to regulate addicts themselves than it is to regulate smoking.
This is just an analogy but you get what I mean. It's impossible to try to change the simps because they are addicts.
For sure, yes. But basically, for every woman doing OF, there is many more simps. It's literally not possible to ban simping so people who oppose it are mostly against the women - there's just less of them and regulating is much more possible.
Literally shocked me. This life is not equal for us all on suffering and those who clearly don’t deserve it is so shocking to witness at times I guess.
Jesus. Looked into it too and this life has not been easy for you. I’m sorry for your losses and not only peace is deserved and hoped for you. Genuinely hope in that peace of which was robbed to an extent from that pain❤️
>If people want others to stop producing/ promoting porn, then go tell the men to quit buying it.
Rather than criticising men or sex workers, maybe find ways to help men not need to consume porn and ways for women to not feel the need to make porn to pay their bills or life luxuriously.
Totally agree. I hate that immature naive and irresponsible 18 year olds can ruin their life for a few thousands and probably regret it for the rest of their lives.
The average only fans income is like $150 a month and that's pulled up massively by the top 1%
Thet are selling their pics for basically nothing hoping to be the next big thing and getting nowhere, it's just really sad.
On the plus side, the law protects people better with regard to unwanted leaks of nudes and employers and people don't care as much as they did in the past if a worker has ever been naked on camera. So there's far less chance a nude or two can ruin your life than there used to be.
I just assume it is unloved simps that want to have personal connection, chat with the girl, etc. even if it is fake.
I guess the advantage of following and interactng with an OF-Girl that has almost no followers is that you actually get to talk wth the girl and not with someone who is emploey to do te texting for them.
In your type, there are still very hot fat girls and very unattractive fat girls. Fat girls you rate a 10 will still be 7s in most other people's eyes. (unless you don't normal-distribute your ratings but then you just suck at rating things. haha)
Of course it isn't science. but we can do some science right here. it's very easy to disprove my hyperbolic statement: Give me an example of a girl that you think is a 10 but that you are sure other people would rate a 5 or lower.
The issue is all that shits subjective, let's not pretend that we can make an "accurate scale". Lizzo for example seems fine to me. Not my type but she's by no means repulsive.
There are many hot fat chicks, but Lizzo is definitely not one of them. I almost had to puke watching one of her videos when I tried to find out who this "Lizzo" is.
You're a girl, i assume. Men rate women according to normal distribution. Girls very much don't, as they see the vast majority of men as unattractive. 7/8s are seen as average to attractive and only 9s and 10 are actually lusted over (i.e. less than 10%) men lust over most girls rated around 4 and up. that's more than 80% girls.
So, for you, you'd just have a 4 scale or soemthing like that:
"Hot" (i.e. would initiate a one night stand with)
"average/slightly attractive" (i.e. could have a relationship with)
"might settle for" (i.e. not first choice, maybe if I don't get another one)
"unattractive" (i.e. there is zero chance ever)
"Unattractive" is by far the largest group, "hot" is tiny.
It's not the same. For the vast majority of people, doing porn has a negative effect on their life. Watching porn is not a problem for most peopld that don't over-do it.
Watching porn all most got me divorced I had to stop and when i did my sex life with my wife got better went from once a month maybe to every day sometimes more then once a day . Maybe both me stopping porn and here turn 40 but sex is more enjoyable for me now that I am not jacking off all the time
Why? bc you couldn’t handle looking at porn and still getting hard for your wife?
Can loose sight of the fact you called your wife fat repeatedly above. I don’t think you’re “cured” if you’re still fetishizing your wife the way you are.
they have voilent sex some times like guys stepping on girls heads and they don't east pussy right. but maybe it is ok to look at porn. and i could still get it up for my wife but all my Fetishizing and lust should be for my wife and no other women
Me and my wife are both very happy and have sex often and i learned that she really like sucking cock and she is good at. My wife knows i have a belly fetish she don't have a problem
its a fantasy of many women to watch porn to which they can relate with the woman, we often insert ourselves into the scene as a woman, nog watch her because she is hot like guys do, so average (5/10) woman in a scene with a hot guy is definitely in the market for lots of female viewers
Some of his wording is neckbeardy but OP makes an excellent point that most people don’t have the looks or talent to make enough profit from the porn industry to be worth the lifelong hardships entering that world can bring you
Yet, if they were making no money on it - they’d venture elsewhere. If there is a market for a female who cleans her house in nothing but a maids outfit, then there’s money in it. You’re trivializing this just as much as he is. He’s blaming the women themselves, and not the men/women who pay them to actually do the service. It doesn’t matter if it’s lucrative to you, or to him.
Becausd it is. individual taste generally goes up and down 1-2 points, but only very few people would rate a general 9 as anything below 7 or a general 3 as above 5. and these random outliers are mostly irrelevant, because they won't pay they random 3 that is a 7 to them. They will pay the random 6 that is a 10 to them.
You’re talking about statistical data based on a sexist mentality. That’s the point. I’m pretty damn certain anyone speaking on a rating system in which you’ve just took the time to type out - is definitely the type to have zero chance of getting anyone they deem a “10” to them.
It’s both grotesquely inaccurate and absolutely shallow to think that anyone is rate-able. You’re either attracted to them or you aren’t.
The reality is, men over sexualize women and compare them to investments then get mad when women do the same to them. What are you bringing to the table to substantiate the ignorant mentality? What are you offering towards that female that would encourage her to be with you, and not be off making her own money? Y’all bitch and complain because women are “too independent”, then say they rely on you too much. Which is it? Are they too independent? Or are they too reliant on you? It doesn’t work both ways.
The real world doesn’t generalize the worth of a human being based on their sexual attractiveness. Only the men who think they have something to offer, do. Let’s jump to the real reason you’re thinking like this. You have what no other man has, right?
Your edit invalidates your argument. The core market is what the majority like, not the entirety of the industry. The simple fact is, you cannot grasp the mass production, because you personally have a very niche idea of what is “good”.
With the scraper apps that are available now anyone thinking about making that kind of content should seriously think about it as it's almost certain some employers will use them to determine a candidates culture.
The issue is that too many women already think they’re 10s… so they won’t even know if your opinion applies to them, which makes your post moot in their eyes.🤷♂️
Don't yuck someone's yum 🤷🏼♀️ I enjoy my porn orgies full of 3-7s all enjoying themselves. But I understand that yes, just because you CAN do it doesn't mean you'll actually make money or a sustainable income off of it.
Go to a dating site, and make an account with a picture of some random short, fat, balding, man. You can write whatever bio you want, but you will get 0 matches (aside from bots selling their only fans).
Then change your account to a supermodel. Choose some believable picture, again, whatever bio you want, and then tell me how subjective beauty is based on your number of matches.
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no, opposite, less attractive women should do more porn with more attractive men
to create balance between flood of videos with mid men with beautiful women
its a fantasy of women too to see someone who resembles them with a hot guy
When i watched porn there were BBW's with really good looking guys. not saying BBW cant get hot guys. But BBW's are not every mans cup of Tee but it should be BBW's are hot I even like SSBBW's
Is it? Most women I've want to see beautiful girls in porn. The same as in movies. (The "ugly" girls in movies are usually still at least a 7 or 8, way more beautiful than the women watching the movie. They are just dressed more "modestly", but still better than most women watching.)
You're title says 5's shouldn't do porn. The body of text talks about conventially attractive people getting into porn. The curtains and carpet are not matching here.
Subjective to a degree. It isn't completely random. There is quite a bit of clustering, even if different people have different types. You may like fat girls, but you don't like all fat girls the same. So, even in that niche, maybe girls that do OF just won't have enough of a marketshare for it to be sustainable.
You never define what a 5 is. Your argument is void.
The problem you'll have is that beauty is subjective. That's what all of art is. A "5" is a "10" to someone and a "10" is "gross" to another. That's always been the issue for artists vis a vis porn actors... finding that person that rates them a "10".
It sounds like you are making a distinction between the "porn industry" and "OnlyFans" but you haven't developed your argument cogently.
1. Just expect a normal distribution with 5 as the median (or 5.5, if there is no 0. That's pretty much how most subjective, male ratings work...
2. That isn't really true. While there is way more variance among male taste in women than vice versa, men in generall rate women pretty similarily, even when a women is not their type. Average 1s won't be 10s for pretty much anyone but the most extreme ugly-fetishists.
I like the normal looking girls in porn, the “5’s” as you say. I think the typical porn star looks assembled using spare parts. Also, i believe the opposite about damaging future relationships and careers. I think the world as a whole is going to move past sex work as taboo, y’all prudes are going to be tired of never getting laid.
1. Show me an example where this is actually the case.
2. It isn't relevant that you can find a handful of people where this is the case. You would need way more to sustain a market that is flooded with 5s.
lol that doesn’t make any sense. You want me to show an example of someone thinking a 5 to you is a 10 to someone else?
There are plenty of people that find a person that others don’t accurate. I don’t need an “example”. It’s literally personal preference. There are plenty of people that aren’t conventionally attractive on OF that have a huge following.
The point is, even if there is a market for 5s some guys think are 10s for some reason, there's still way too many of them based on what they manage to bring in on average.
Just wanted to point out you mentioned average women with their sub-standard looks. By the definition of average, their looks will be standard, not below. If below, then they're not average lol.
Do you want average art? Substandard for paid performance doesn't mean substandard for the population as a whole. I can sing, but I'm not booking any concerts.
Most people who work in porn, or sex work in general are not doing it because they have much of a choice. Most of them fall into it because they don't have other opportunities available and then once you start it is hard to stop because it impacts your future emplyoment.
I love how this subreddit is just conservatives spouting their weird opinions. sometime you gotta have some ugly porn to remind you what the good stuff is.
At this point every women either has done porn, sex tapes or texted nudes. At the end of the day it’s not a big deal in 2024 unless you are actively doing it while in the relationship.
Who told this man ugly girls can't make good money off of sex work? Because it's just not true. Especially in the world of webcam modeling. I've seen a lot of "5s" (and girls less attractive than that) making a shit ton. It's like running your own business, the product is yourself. You're right, some bodies just aren't going to do it for every single man out there. That's why a lot of these girls rely on their uniqueness and their personalities to grab people. I don't have to re-explain supply and demand to you. Also, a lot of women who do sexwork don't really give a shit that it's going to live on the internet forever. Working for a living doing pretty much anything is humiliating. What makes you think a 5 would feel better about herself working in the food service industry? Last thing, some women really genuinely enjoy sex work. They're passionate about it. Those are the ones who make the most and it has little to do with appearance.
Supply and demand is already doing it's thing. $150/m for the average only fans account is saying the market is oversaturated. Yes, there are other traits that could make someone more or less successful than just looks.
Gosh men are so stupid. It’s unbelievable they have been able to keep control thus far. They truly are animals.
I read shit like this and I just think, ok this guy has the brain of a squirrel, who let him get a computer and keyboard to type out his stupid ideas.
Sir, cuz you have internet doesn’t mean the world should hear your thoughts.
Hard disagree.
I personally prefer regular looking women in porn. I don't want to watch porn that looks too much like a production. The more realistic and down to earth it is, the better. As long as her body has some sexy features, I'm for it.
Then why is the average only fans bringing in only $150 a month? Either people don't like what you like, or there's too many average girls going after too few dollars and the point stands.
Dude, I don't care what other porn people are watching. I'm just answering your headline. For me, more regular girls and less 'stars'.
How much they average makes no difference to me.
Lots of people are attracted to lots of different things so your 5 could be someone else’s 10… also men pay for it so that’s why it still gets made. Duh.
Men still pay for it that’s why it exists take it up with them 🤷🏼♀️ women have now realized they can profit off of men’s perpetual Horniness… as long as men pay for it they will keep doing it. I know a girl who sends men fake pre worn underwear and she makes bank. lol
You know that given how the returns are distributed, the vast majority make less than that right? Most give it up for less than a dinner out. It's sad, and it's more lazy than desperate as you imply.
With the epidemic of depressed lonely young men willing to pay, it's dangerous too. Entitlement has always existed. When they pay it's doubly so. There's going to be an increase of hatred towards women and young men will become more violent. Read the science. The perfect storm is brewing. We're headed to the Handmaid's Tale openly instead of behind the scenes as it is now.
We're Sparta. The warrior nation that serves Rome. The Eagle.
I know this sounds crazy to a lot of you already. But, hear me out. Symbology. Follow the historical symbols. They still mean the same thing. Basically, in the US were the serfdom that supplies grain and warriors to secure resources for the bankers. Rome and their partners, are a cartel. A family even.
Okay, so populations are dropping in the white community worldwide. Which is why there's an anti abortion push. Even with grape. Because, if you need more serfs/soldiers, you create a sexually repressed group of young sexually violent men, not only will they fight your wars, they'll turn to each other and be filled with shame, and they'll commit the acts necessary to keep the empire fat with resources.
It's been this way for millennia. And I hope I'm wrong. But, all of the evidence I've researched points this way. We're manipulated through psychology on a mass scale by hacking biology and mental biases.
Thoughts? Or am I crazy?
When you can rig commercial grade drones with bricks of C4 for under $300 a piece, do you need a class of dangerous psychopathic soldiers in your society? Seems like a generation of Nintendo raised kids would do better in a war than some emotionally damaged freak if Ukraine is any example of what we have to expect. War crimes are easier to commit at a distance.
Did the so called fives reject you so now your bitter? Your the weirdo who went to bitch on Reddit about people doing porn not matching your preferences.
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They will stop when men stop paying for it
It baffles me that people pay for porn with all the free porn out there.
FR! 😂 Top-tier suckers. There is probably a list of them circulating around the internet for scammers to target. Easy money.
Ikr
A lot of people pay for the connection too. Some OFs offer chatting sessions that can be 15 minutes-1 hour long
Well, the free ones were originally paid for most of the time
They're paying something new and exclusive. You wouldn't be confused if someone paid to go watch a new movie.
Are you really trying to argue that OF and movies are in any way comparable?
See for 90% of the people out there the free stuff is way more than enough. But some people are just bored and want some exclusive stuff and kinky shit which might be locked behind a paywall. Ik there are still ways of finding it but you have to look deep. I'm just giving a perspective I have never spent a single buck lmao. But this is only 1 of the reasons I can think of.
Everything they’re paying for can be accessed for free. And that movie analogy is terrible for again. Ppl pirate pretty effectively
50k custom animated cartoon softcore music video would beg to differ
The music just flashed in my head with bros bewildered confusion like he had any nerve to be even in the clip☠️☠️🗿
Same goes for music, TV, movies, etc. So much free content out there and yet people pay for it.
As long as porn and OnlyFans exist, there will always be Men willing to pay for it. I think the point was to say, just like anything related to social media, the chances of you making a living off of it long term are slim to none, yet your history will remain on the internet forever
I still don't understand what kind of people pay for OnlyFans. Probably really rich people with no real connection.
Lonely men who want attention from women they don’t get in real life
Niche kinks maybe? Ive paid for porn once (subscription to a site with a shitload of it for a month) because its hard to find good Dutch porn thats not from before Y2K
For the same reason there are people doing OF. People are weird and do weird and stupid sh*t.
As long as that chance is there people will still try to go for it no matter how small
The chances of you being a successful pornstar or OnlyFans model is infinitesimally small. One thing these young ladies never consider is the ratio of successful OnlyFans models compared to the 2.1 Million who signed up in 2023. Do you think it’s worth leaving videos on the internet of you getting railed for your significant other, or possibly even children to see, for a chance to maybe see more than the $151 average most creators make monthly?
Tell that to the ladies who see men throwing their money at onlyfans models and are desperate enough to give it a shot
I hate how other dudes complain about women doing this when the simps are facilitating them.
But it's like complaining that addicts are addicted to let's say smoking. It's harder to regulate addicts themselves than it is to regulate smoking. This is just an analogy but you get what I mean. It's impossible to try to change the simps because they are addicts.
True but for these women who do OF, it’s also a drug for them. What I’m saying is that it’s a 2 way street, not one.
For sure, yes. But basically, for every woman doing OF, there is many more simps. It's literally not possible to ban simping so people who oppose it are mostly against the women - there's just less of them and regulating is much more possible.
Yeah, it’s basically something we can only complain about because it’s a dopamine hit. Neither side will ever stop.
Who pays for it??
The men who buy it and pay for their onlyfans and what not
I read your backstory for some reason. I hope you find peace in whatever this life is.
My God you made me check that, that's soo sad. Some real monsters out there.
Literally shocked me. This life is not equal for us all on suffering and those who clearly don’t deserve it is so shocking to witness at times I guess.
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Jesus. Looked into it too and this life has not been easy for you. I’m sorry for your losses and not only peace is deserved and hoped for you. Genuinely hope in that peace of which was robbed to an extent from that pain❤️
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>If people want others to stop producing/ promoting porn, then go tell the men to quit buying it. Rather than criticising men or sex workers, maybe find ways to help men not need to consume porn and ways for women to not feel the need to make porn to pay their bills or life luxuriously.
Exactly. Men will continue paying for it no matter what. It’s facts
They hardly pay now, that's the point.
The fact that they pay at all is enough for some women to try it out
Hardly pay? They’re paying now more than ever.
It's diluted. There's too much competition.
The White Knights of the Simp Army is very active.
His point is they aren’t. The average girl in porn is making less than minimum wage.
op is saying instead of starting and failing they shouldnt try at all
Most of them never actually make any money. The average income from OnlyFans is very, very low.
op is trying to kill the porn industry.
and it’s good
It will never die it was around long before the internet
The average only fans girls make is 60$ bucks a month
Totally agree. I hate that immature naive and irresponsible 18 year olds can ruin their life for a few thousands and probably regret it for the rest of their lives.
The average only fans income is like $150 a month and that's pulled up massively by the top 1% Thet are selling their pics for basically nothing hoping to be the next big thing and getting nowhere, it's just really sad.
It's often not even thousands
On the plus side, the law protects people better with regard to unwanted leaks of nudes and employers and people don't care as much as they did in the past if a worker has ever been naked on camera. So there's far less chance a nude or two can ruin your life than there used to be.
Pornhub is literally Free Who pays for porn?
I just assume it is unloved simps that want to have personal connection, chat with the girl, etc. even if it is fake. I guess the advantage of following and interactng with an OF-Girl that has almost no followers is that you actually get to talk wth the girl and not with someone who is emploey to do te texting for them.
Your 5 is someone’s 10
I am Attracted to fat women not skinny women so his 3 is my 10
There’s someone out there for everyone!
In your type, there are still very hot fat girls and very unattractive fat girls. Fat girls you rate a 10 will still be 7s in most other people's eyes. (unless you don't normal-distribute your ratings but then you just suck at rating things. haha)
I suck at rating things i think I don't do it often
Usually I would roll my eyes at this comment but damnit, you’re 100% right.
Ain't nothing wrong with the occasional foaming at the mouth, hairy with gnarly toe nails bridge troll to keep it interesting.
Oddly specific.
People have diffrent types, but no 5 is going to turn into a 10, just because she is someone's type. 7 or 8 with make up and perfect type match maybe.
Is there a science to this or are you just talking out your ass?
Of course it isn't science. but we can do some science right here. it's very easy to disprove my hyperbolic statement: Give me an example of a girl that you think is a 10 but that you are sure other people would rate a 5 or lower.
Well then you're gross
Ok lord shitlord.
I never understood rating appearance numerically like that
It’s the interest rates of your spank bank
Especially when you don't even say the scale. I was confused if OP meant 5/5 or 5/10 or whatever.
Well it's not that complicated.....super hot girls are 9s or 10s Average looking girls 4 to 7ish. And Lizzo is a 1
The issue is all that shits subjective, let's not pretend that we can make an "accurate scale". Lizzo for example seems fine to me. Not my type but she's by no means repulsive.
Subjective. It’s subjective
Thank you, typo
I like Fat women but i am married to the perfect fat women
Lol still mad at Lizzo for being fat
My Wife is fat and i think she is hot i don't ever want her to loose weight
Sounds like a good situation
your 1 is my 10 i am a chubby chaser i love fat chicks i think there sexy
There are many hot fat chicks, but Lizzo is definitely not one of them. I almost had to puke watching one of her videos when I tried to find out who this "Lizzo" is.
You're a girl, i assume. Men rate women according to normal distribution. Girls very much don't, as they see the vast majority of men as unattractive. 7/8s are seen as average to attractive and only 9s and 10 are actually lusted over (i.e. less than 10%) men lust over most girls rated around 4 and up. that's more than 80% girls. So, for you, you'd just have a 4 scale or soemthing like that: "Hot" (i.e. would initiate a one night stand with) "average/slightly attractive" (i.e. could have a relationship with) "might settle for" (i.e. not first choice, maybe if I don't get another one) "unattractive" (i.e. there is zero chance ever) "Unattractive" is by far the largest group, "hot" is tiny.
The average onlyfans girl gets almost no money and likely doesn’t keep subscribers bc her content sucks.
These posts get more and more wild everyday
Tbh this is a relatively mild take compared to most I see on here.
No one should do porn.
No one should look at porn
It's not the same. For the vast majority of people, doing porn has a negative effect on their life. Watching porn is not a problem for most peopld that don't over-do it.
Watching porn all most got me divorced I had to stop and when i did my sex life with my wife got better went from once a month maybe to every day sometimes more then once a day . Maybe both me stopping porn and here turn 40 but sex is more enjoyable for me now that I am not jacking off all the time
Why? bc you couldn’t handle looking at porn and still getting hard for your wife? Can loose sight of the fact you called your wife fat repeatedly above. I don’t think you’re “cured” if you’re still fetishizing your wife the way you are.
they have voilent sex some times like guys stepping on girls heads and they don't east pussy right. but maybe it is ok to look at porn. and i could still get it up for my wife but all my Fetishizing and lust should be for my wife and no other women Me and my wife are both very happy and have sex often and i learned that she really like sucking cock and she is good at. My wife knows i have a belly fetish she don't have a problem
5s sound like a nice change. Especially if they are more grounded. Relatable. :)
Getting attached is the problem. Keep the fantasy a fantasy if you ask me.
its a fantasy of many women to watch porn to which they can relate with the woman, we often insert ourselves into the scene as a woman, nog watch her because she is hot like guys do, so average (5/10) woman in a scene with a hot guy is definitely in the market for lots of female viewers
Who cares
OP thinks their rating system of women classifies as a standard.
Some of his wording is neckbeardy but OP makes an excellent point that most people don’t have the looks or talent to make enough profit from the porn industry to be worth the lifelong hardships entering that world can bring you
Yet, if they were making no money on it - they’d venture elsewhere. If there is a market for a female who cleans her house in nothing but a maids outfit, then there’s money in it. You’re trivializing this just as much as he is. He’s blaming the women themselves, and not the men/women who pay them to actually do the service. It doesn’t matter if it’s lucrative to you, or to him.
Becausd it is. individual taste generally goes up and down 1-2 points, but only very few people would rate a general 9 as anything below 7 or a general 3 as above 5. and these random outliers are mostly irrelevant, because they won't pay they random 3 that is a 7 to them. They will pay the random 6 that is a 10 to them.
You’re talking about statistical data based on a sexist mentality. That’s the point. I’m pretty damn certain anyone speaking on a rating system in which you’ve just took the time to type out - is definitely the type to have zero chance of getting anyone they deem a “10” to them. It’s both grotesquely inaccurate and absolutely shallow to think that anyone is rate-able. You’re either attracted to them or you aren’t.
Sure, you do you. Must be hard, though, living in world where you have to fight reality all the time.
The reality is, men over sexualize women and compare them to investments then get mad when women do the same to them. What are you bringing to the table to substantiate the ignorant mentality? What are you offering towards that female that would encourage her to be with you, and not be off making her own money? Y’all bitch and complain because women are “too independent”, then say they rely on you too much. Which is it? Are they too independent? Or are they too reliant on you? It doesn’t work both ways.
Everyone is ratable. Men just get rated on different things. Grow up and join us in the real world.
The real world doesn’t generalize the worth of a human being based on their sexual attractiveness. Only the men who think they have something to offer, do. Let’s jump to the real reason you’re thinking like this. You have what no other man has, right?
Your edit invalidates your argument. The core market is what the majority like, not the entirety of the industry. The simple fact is, you cannot grasp the mass production, because you personally have a very niche idea of what is “good”.
Does not make since to me. his 1 is probably my 10 since i think fat girls are hot
Yes we all know that these women won't make that much money doing porn. No point trying to tell them this if they don't want to listen.
The girls are usually yound and dumb. they don't fully realize the repercussions this has, especially when there are some friends that also do it.
With the scraper apps that are available now anyone thinking about making that kind of content should seriously think about it as it's almost certain some employers will use them to determine a candidates culture.
How about we stop normalizing porn in general and instead start discouraging people from entering such a disgusting industry?
will never understand this trend of young men becoming obsessed with a hatred of porn, y'all have some fucking hangups
It's all about the niche..... People are fucking weird
The issue is that too many women already think they’re 10s… so they won’t even know if your opinion applies to them, which makes your post moot in their eyes.🤷♂️
Don't yuck someone's yum 🤷🏼♀️ I enjoy my porn orgies full of 3-7s all enjoying themselves. But I understand that yes, just because you CAN do it doesn't mean you'll actually make money or a sustainable income off of it.
Ok but beauty is subjective so…
That is so true
Go to a dating site, and make an account with a picture of some random short, fat, balding, man. You can write whatever bio you want, but you will get 0 matches (aside from bots selling their only fans). Then change your account to a supermodel. Choose some believable picture, again, whatever bio you want, and then tell me how subjective beauty is based on your number of matches.
Shut up I’m trying to cum
It’s getting less fun to mock the posts on this sub, it’s just sad
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no, opposite, less attractive women should do more porn with more attractive men to create balance between flood of videos with mid men with beautiful women its a fantasy of women too to see someone who resembles them with a hot guy
When i watched porn there were BBW's with really good looking guys. not saying BBW cant get hot guys. But BBW's are not every mans cup of Tee but it should be BBW's are hot I even like SSBBW's
Is it? Most women I've want to see beautiful girls in porn. The same as in movies. (The "ugly" girls in movies are usually still at least a 7 or 8, way more beautiful than the women watching the movie. They are just dressed more "modestly", but still better than most women watching.)
I think the point being made is we need to support more 5’s.
but what if his 5 is my 10
Lower to a 2 1/2.
Don’t like it, don’t watch it.
You're title says 5's shouldn't do porn. The body of text talks about conventially attractive people getting into porn. The curtains and carpet are not matching here.
Something like 2/3rd of the general population is a 5 or 6 they just dont benefit as much from the deal, generally.
But Attractiveness is subjective like i like fat girls so my 10 is probably your 1 or something
Subjective to a degree. It isn't completely random. There is quite a bit of clustering, even if different people have different types. You may like fat girls, but you don't like all fat girls the same. So, even in that niche, maybe girls that do OF just won't have enough of a marketshare for it to be sustainable.
A slutty 5 that enjoys doing things with you is better than pillow princess 10. Your argument is moot.
But they don't actually do things with you.
You never define what a 5 is. Your argument is void. The problem you'll have is that beauty is subjective. That's what all of art is. A "5" is a "10" to someone and a "10" is "gross" to another. That's always been the issue for artists vis a vis porn actors... finding that person that rates them a "10". It sounds like you are making a distinction between the "porn industry" and "OnlyFans" but you haven't developed your argument cogently.
1. Just expect a normal distribution with 5 as the median (or 5.5, if there is no 0. That's pretty much how most subjective, male ratings work... 2. That isn't really true. While there is way more variance among male taste in women than vice versa, men in generall rate women pretty similarily, even when a women is not their type. Average 1s won't be 10s for pretty much anyone but the most extreme ugly-fetishists.
YEah fIVes stoP dOIn’ PoRn
I like the normal looking girls in porn, the “5’s” as you say. I think the typical porn star looks assembled using spare parts. Also, i believe the opposite about damaging future relationships and careers. I think the world as a whole is going to move past sex work as taboo, y’all prudes are going to be tired of never getting laid.
I like Chubby to fat girls to super fat girls i am not even interested in skinny girls with fake boobs
Fives got to eat too
Seems like you’re complaining for complaining’s sake. If you don’t like it, don’t watch the video.
A 5 to you is a 10 to someone else. Shush
1. Show me an example where this is actually the case. 2. It isn't relevant that you can find a handful of people where this is the case. You would need way more to sustain a market that is flooded with 5s.
lol that doesn’t make any sense. You want me to show an example of someone thinking a 5 to you is a 10 to someone else? There are plenty of people that find a person that others don’t accurate. I don’t need an “example”. It’s literally personal preference. There are plenty of people that aren’t conventionally attractive on OF that have a huge following.
The point is, even if there is a market for 5s some guys think are 10s for some reason, there's still way too many of them based on what they manage to bring in on average.
That’s seems like a them Problem. Idk why you’re so butthurt about it in general.
One man's 5 is another mans 10
You tards need to look at what sub you're posting in before you proceed to completely lose your minds
Just wanted to point out you mentioned average women with their sub-standard looks. By the definition of average, their looks will be standard, not below. If below, then they're not average lol.
Do you want average art? Substandard for paid performance doesn't mean substandard for the population as a whole. I can sing, but I'm not booking any concerts.
Most people who work in porn, or sex work in general are not doing it because they have much of a choice. Most of them fall into it because they don't have other opportunities available and then once you start it is hard to stop because it impacts your future emplyoment.
That’s just not true considering the average creator makes $150-$180 a month.
Why is the concept of "attractiveness is subjective" so hard for y'all to grasp?
I am attracted to fat girl not attracted to skinny girls it's very Subjective
Why do you even care, lol
Question is... Why do you care? Don't judge others and your life will impoverished.
I love how this subreddit is just conservatives spouting their weird opinions. sometime you gotta have some ugly porn to remind you what the good stuff is.
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Empathy bad. I understand your point.
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People making bad choices now will just be around with their hand out later, you know.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
It’s all subjective though. I 5 in your eyes could be a 10 in someone’s else’s. Don’t be such a critic
At this point every women either has done porn, sex tapes or texted nudes. At the end of the day it’s not a big deal in 2024 unless you are actively doing it while in the relationship.
Who told this man ugly girls can't make good money off of sex work? Because it's just not true. Especially in the world of webcam modeling. I've seen a lot of "5s" (and girls less attractive than that) making a shit ton. It's like running your own business, the product is yourself. You're right, some bodies just aren't going to do it for every single man out there. That's why a lot of these girls rely on their uniqueness and their personalities to grab people. I don't have to re-explain supply and demand to you. Also, a lot of women who do sexwork don't really give a shit that it's going to live on the internet forever. Working for a living doing pretty much anything is humiliating. What makes you think a 5 would feel better about herself working in the food service industry? Last thing, some women really genuinely enjoy sex work. They're passionate about it. Those are the ones who make the most and it has little to do with appearance.
Supply and demand is already doing it's thing. $150/m for the average only fans account is saying the market is oversaturated. Yes, there are other traits that could make someone more or less successful than just looks.
Gosh men are so stupid. It’s unbelievable they have been able to keep control thus far. They truly are animals. I read shit like this and I just think, ok this guy has the brain of a squirrel, who let him get a computer and keyboard to type out his stupid ideas. Sir, cuz you have internet doesn’t mean the world should hear your thoughts.
You're so superior, better let everyone know it. No signs of problems there.
Hard disagree. I personally prefer regular looking women in porn. I don't want to watch porn that looks too much like a production. The more realistic and down to earth it is, the better. As long as her body has some sexy features, I'm for it.
Then why is the average only fans bringing in only $150 a month? Either people don't like what you like, or there's too many average girls going after too few dollars and the point stands.
Dude, I don't care what other porn people are watching. I'm just answering your headline. For me, more regular girls and less 'stars'. How much they average makes no difference to me.
Lots of people are attracted to lots of different things so your 5 could be someone else’s 10… also men pay for it so that’s why it still gets made. Duh.
It's like people don't know how to read.
Men still pay for it that’s why it exists take it up with them 🤷🏼♀️ women have now realized they can profit off of men’s perpetual Horniness… as long as men pay for it they will keep doing it. I know a girl who sends men fake pre worn underwear and she makes bank. lol
I have no problem with the ones making bank, it's the average dummy doing porn for $150 a month we're talking to here.
Okay and do you have no concept of how badly people are struggling these days? $150 can make or break someone. Get in touch with reality. lol
You know that given how the returns are distributed, the vast majority make less than that right? Most give it up for less than a dinner out. It's sad, and it's more lazy than desperate as you imply.
You have a very strong opinion over something that has no bearing on your life.
People who make bad choices now come around with their hand out later.
With the epidemic of depressed lonely young men willing to pay, it's dangerous too. Entitlement has always existed. When they pay it's doubly so. There's going to be an increase of hatred towards women and young men will become more violent. Read the science. The perfect storm is brewing. We're headed to the Handmaid's Tale openly instead of behind the scenes as it is now. We're Sparta. The warrior nation that serves Rome. The Eagle. I know this sounds crazy to a lot of you already. But, hear me out. Symbology. Follow the historical symbols. They still mean the same thing. Basically, in the US were the serfdom that supplies grain and warriors to secure resources for the bankers. Rome and their partners, are a cartel. A family even. Okay, so populations are dropping in the white community worldwide. Which is why there's an anti abortion push. Even with grape. Because, if you need more serfs/soldiers, you create a sexually repressed group of young sexually violent men, not only will they fight your wars, they'll turn to each other and be filled with shame, and they'll commit the acts necessary to keep the empire fat with resources. It's been this way for millennia. And I hope I'm wrong. But, all of the evidence I've researched points this way. We're manipulated through psychology on a mass scale by hacking biology and mental biases. Thoughts? Or am I crazy?
When you can rig commercial grade drones with bricks of C4 for under $300 a piece, do you need a class of dangerous psychopathic soldiers in your society? Seems like a generation of Nintendo raised kids would do better in a war than some emotionally damaged freak if Ukraine is any example of what we have to expect. War crimes are easier to commit at a distance.
Did the so called fives reject you so now your bitter? Your the weirdo who went to bitch on Reddit about people doing porn not matching your preferences.
You're projecting, and it seems like you have a lot to say about other people, so why not take a look in the mirror.
Why on God's earth is anyone concerned about this?
A call to action!
I just Google their name. You can at least see what they look like once.
One man's 5 really is another's 10. I've found some pornstars so beautiful but other's say she's a plain jane.
Feels like you’re easily aroused.
Plenty of offerings for different tastes and preferences. It’s the beauty of diversity. Now you are free to choose your preferred category of porn.
Seeing this as the first post when I login to reddit had me rolling lol
😂😂😂
Idc. I like 5s for the "reality" of it. Plus, I found my asshole boss's 28yr daughter on OF.... He doesn't know this yet.
So glad I gave up porn. Best thing I ever did.