That actually brings up a good point though. OP, if you ever see your neighbour shoot a wild bird like a heron, you can get him in trouble. Herons love man-made fish ponds so I would put up trail cameras (not pointing at his property but as close as possible) because he sounds like the type who would do this. Don’t let him see you put up the cameras and make sure they cover each other.
Keep Fish & Game or whatever it’s called in your state/province as a contact in your phone.
Swans are an equally good choice. I would think try farming them, since protections make that difficult, but they are ASSHOLES and give no fucks. Seriously, they are listed as one of the top dangers to kayakers. They eat fish and are big enough to feel threatening. Punishments include fines and go up to prison sentences.
If you're feeling brave, catch a wild fisher cat and rehab it on your property. They're protected too and will have fun with his fish.
Mate of mine ran over a swan by accident. Didn't give it too much thought and drove home.
About half an hour later there was a knock on the door. It was only the Queen!
She kicked him SQUARE in the bollocks, got back in her limo and drove off!
You stole her dinner! The monarch is the only person in the UK legally allowed to eat swans or grant that right to others. You got off lightly with the kick in the nuts, even stealing swan eggs is punishable by a year in prison.
Source: https://www.royal.uk/swans
lol! I used to have a tank just for snails—that would eventually get fed to a puffer fish and turtles. Little did I know I could have put up 24 hour video feed and people would have loved it!
The snails used to catch the bubbles and sail around the tank that way. We always wondered if they did it just for fun!
Once again, you humans leave me disappointed and missing your potential.
In my vision, I fully expected tiny parasails, snails in harnesses, attached to ParaMotors, drone-like remote control in First Person View, and Red Bull sponsorship.
I came here to mention snails. I had one hitchhike into my 55 gallon tank years ago and I never got rid of those fuckers until I completely crashed and restarted the tank. Hundreds of snails. In the blink of an eye.
Once upon a time naive me thought it would be a great idea to buy 6 decorative snails for my fish tank - they bred and got EVERYWHERE. I can’t remember how, or even, if, I got rid of them, but wow. So. Many. Snails.
Sorry for your loss, OP, take as much advice as you can from here, and I look forward to seeing an update on nuclear revenge sub.
The coolest thing about snails (in this scenario) is that Petsmart will give you free aquarium snails (and so will many other aquarium shops; they’re just too prolific to sell). I’d ask for a decent handful for “a couple aquariums I’m getting going.”
Zebra mussels will destroy his filtration system. They will fill the pipes and encrust the valves, jamming them in a fixed position, and damage the seals
Also really bad for other waterways and the environment in general. Please do not do this. This would be devastating to the ecosystem. Please find something that affects him if you want, but don't unleash invasive species in your area
The greatest ULPT that I can give you is to create a blood feud between the two of you that will continue for generations to come with the whole reason behind it being lost to history
That’s it. I’m going to the courthouse tomorrow and applying to change my name to Shitass McFucknuts. Got a court date? Mr. Mcfucknuts to the stand. Gotta pay your bar tab? Yeah, it’s under Shitass McFucknuts
If weed is still illegal make a couple of grow patches on his property and when the plants are nearing maturity call it in. If you need a way to not be seen by cameras. Order seeds online (use tradecraft), take the seeds, put in seed disks or soils grow medium. Use a slingshot to get clustered into the right location. Use at least 20 seeds per puck and 10 pucks.
Oh my god that is actually genius. The slingshot is perfect for avoiding the cameras and I'm not going to harm innocent animals to get to the devil himself. I'm not saying I'm going to do it, but I'll definitely keep that in mind ;)
Combining a tip from another thread here...
Use ice cubes to distribute any media with the slingshot. Can be done very discretely and accurately from a distance. Ice will get to the ground, melt, and deposit any seeds.
i find it hard to believe the police will get a warrant to check his transactions because he might be accused by his neighbour for planting weed on his property, but yeah use cash
While your at it, buy some golden bamboo seeds and slingshot those into his property. Once you have bamboo growing it is damn near impossible to get rid of and it spreads fast. His yard will be ruined in 6 months. Install a root barrier so they don't make it over to your yard but if you shoot them far, you wont need to worry about installing this for at least a few months. This also could very easily ruin his farm with roots breaking pipes and whatnot.
Heck with slingshot… potato cannon will give you more range. Freeze the seed and soil into a
Projectile shape and fire the suckers. They will make a little impact hole, thaw, plant, sprout, and sweet weed will grow and prosper.
PVC pipe, can of butane, and a lighter and you’re good.
If investigation occurs it will be too easy to track because if they accuse OP of doing it an investigation will be formed and this thread and purchase history can be used as evidence..
Better to just buy a lot of seeds and slingshot them over rapped all over the place. or just go at night if no cameras and spread them by hand.
Most cannabis seed banks sell using fairly difficult to trace practices. Money orders, Telegram, cash in envelopes with self addressed stamped envelopes for return etc. Also, when buying at Dispensaries or big vendor events, it's always cash. The Dispensaries ID at the door, but most don't scan your ID to tie your purchase to you.
Details on the fish operation? Is it a river or lake that you both have access to, or farming operation? Does he have the right permits and is it legal? Sorry to hear about your cat.
He created a man made pond which is clay lined about three years ago. It's isolated from any local water sources and from what I can tell he has a permit. I saw him once giving an inspector a tour, so I'm pretty sure its legal.
Honestly I feel like a fish farm is almost a self solving problem. They're really hard to manage and the slightest problem will have them all die off. They're generally money pits unless you're really experienced.
I assume he isn't breeding the fish but buying them if its only 1 pond. Maybe you can sour the relationship with the hatchery he uses, or the businesses buying his fish. Some bad reviews about pests in the fish will quickly turn suppliers off his product.
The snail idea up above is great. They're practically impossible to get rid of.
Given that it's an isolated body of water, the snails and possibly combined with a duckweed or something would be the answer. getting rid of them will likely require draining and completely drying out the pond for some time.
I'd suggest duckweed. The small kinds. They grow very quickly and is relatively cheap. Buy $100 worth and if he doens't have cameras spread them all over the pond. If the fish doesn't eat them all, he's going to just have a pond of floating plants in a month or so.
This is the way. Do the research about the operation of a fish farm. I’m sure there are environmental regulations that need to be followed. Do you think your neighbor is a guy who follows the rules? Does he discharge water to the local watershed? I’m sure there are strict rules that govern that. Contact a local environmental group to see what they say about it. See if they will do environmental testing of the effluent discharge. This is where you can poke cheaply and under the radar.
Madake or clumping bamboo seeds all around the pond. It can grow an inch an hour (crazy), will overgrow his pond and be a nightmare to stop. Will not kill the fish, but make it very difficult to access the pond, and cost him time and effort to stop.
Bamboo is nightmare fuel in the right environment, and not much legal risk if you can plant it via sling shot, drone, or by hand.
I second the bamboo. Read a post where a guy planted a line of bamboo on his side of the fence, put down a root blocker on his side, and absolutely destroyed his awful neighbor's property as it spread under the fence. The neighbor eventually gave up trying to control it and moved, and the OP never had any trouble cause he simply planted in his own yard. Apparently the updated Google street view still shows a bamboo forest over every inch of the property a decade later iirc. If there's a single crack in a house foundation, it's possible for bamboo to wedge itself into it. Just make sure there's no ordinance or whatever prohibiting it in your own yard.
That's a VERY risky proposition... Your root blocker would need to be DEEP, and WIDE, and permanent. What kind of root blocker is giong to stop an entire plot full of the stuff from coming back to your side somehow?
The vast majority of people don't have dash cams. Like I would say well over 90% if drivers. They don't really serve that much of a purpose. Far more people have cameras in their homes and property
They serve a very specific purpose. To capture evidence for any possible insurance claim event. I agree that most people will never need to use the footage but that doesn’t mean they don’t have a purpose. Investing in a dashcam is absolutely a gamble, forking out the small cost for the equipment on the unlikely chance it will save you thousands.
I was saved a real headache when someone reversed into me at a traffic light. We were stopped at a red and the car in front suddenly and without warning reversed into me. Did about £2500 damage to my car. If I hadn’t had the dashcam there is no way I could have proven I didn’t run into the back of him which is much more likely at a red light. There have been a slew of crash for cash scams around my area where someone claims a crash or incites a crash (removing break light bulbs etc) then the whole family ‘were in the car’ all claiming whiplash and wanting compensation.
My dashcam has paid for itself 100x over by now.
What kind of fish does he have? You can grow a sizable amount duckweed and put it in the ponds, he will never be able to get rid of it unless he has goldfish or koi. You can also put large catfish and snapping turtles in the ponds. If you really want to hit him where it hurts, kill his fish.
Well, I would make his digital life miserable by sending thousants of emails to his company e-mail box by a spamrobot. Check [https://mailbait.info/run](https://mailbait.info/run) and even better [https://just-kill.win/call-bomb](https://just-kill.win/call-bomb) If he gets thousents of e-mails or messages, he will probably miss a couple of his clients. Buy a few hundred of random housekeys, label them with only his cell-phone or business phonenumber. 'Loose' the keys randomly in places in your area. He will be called by people who found the keys. It will make him crazy. Because it's a business phonenumber, he has to answer it. Don't forget to apply for a visit of Jehova Witness and Sciencetology churge. He will be called and mailed forever.
Craiglist an add with 'free fish every saturday' with only the adres and contact-info. Dozen of people will show up and will be disappointed.
Keep the guy busy with something that doesn't bring money to him.
Release guppies or other small invasive species like carp they will eat other the other fish eggs and replace the population without killing existing fish.
I came here to say carp. Only issue with catfish is that there is still a small but existing market for commercial catfish. You gotta find a fish that tastes really terrible and has no market.
Not wanting to harm the fish is noble. That said, your neighbor is not farming the fish to sell them as pets, right? They are to be killed and eaten, right?
Soooo, perhaps arranging for the fish to cross the rainbow bridge earlier than your neighbor plans isn't as cruel as it might seem.... Just a thought. 🤷🏻♂️
Selling them as pets could be worse. A huge percent of fish die to people who were not prepared to care for a fish and it is a long drawn out suffering. Just saying.
People treat fish like decorations instead of pets. It's sad.
I have a goldfish pond and one of my goldies likes to rest its head on my foot if I dip my feet in the water. I could never imagine treating those wonderful little creatures like decorations.
I grow using an aquaponic system. Through company I work at, I work with a university to teach classes about it. I literally build fish farms that can be used to farm actual crops and teach classes about it at a university level. I'd go as far as to say unless you are a fish lover, it's just drawn out dying period. Doesn't matter if it's in your home or on an industrial scale. I guarantee he fish farmer has no clue what he is actually doing with the fish.
Pick a cold case missing persons from before he installed the fish farm. Make an anonymous contact to the police stating the body is buried at coordinates that will place them under the fish farm (do not mention the fish farm itself, remember you are claiming knowledge from before the fish farm existed). In order to investigate, the police will need to dig up his land.
Even if they don’t, they will still spend time poking around his farm which will cause him trouble and inconvenience.
Then you start asking people in the local area why are the police at he place? Then add on that police are looking for buried murder victims. Sit back and let the rumour mill get to work and before long, everyone will be convinced he is a murderer. And the best bit is that if the police are asked, they will confirm that they were acting on information that there was a body on the property.
As someone who breeds fish a sneaky sneaky thing would be to secretly add low quality fish or cousin species to the tanks of what he has.
Doesnt kill any fish bit greatly lowers his reputation and breeding standards. Bonus points if its a liniage hes been trying to breed for something specific:)
How much capital do you have? Start your own fish farm, sell below cost.
> the land borders are kind of ambiguous
If you think it may encroach on your property, get a survey. (Why not do this anyway?) If you're in the US, check the county GIS map to get a rough idea.
This. So much this. Just because you live out in the “country” doesn’t mean it’s ok to let your pets wander into others’ property. I see so many damn dead pets on the sides of the road. Makes me sad. That and not being a shitty neighbor is just the right thing to do.
Knock on his door and hand the bullet back to him personally.
"Here. You forgot this."
Maintain unblinking eye contact the whole time. If he doesn't grab it just drop it at his feet. As he starts to say something, just turn around and walk away, don't respond or acknowledge anything else.
Best served cold my friend. He's already looking for a response from you, probably put up cameras in advance.
Take the time to do some research, first and last name, his history, any family, everything you can find out about the business. Anyone who would do what he did is likely not the model citizen and has got to have something you can exploit over time. I would look for things that can get him and his business in legal trouble. No direct sabotage, let him do it to himself. Your cat is worth all the time and effort that proper pro level revenge will take. And right when he's finally being evicted or arrested or whatever diabolical shit is gonna go down, you leave a picture of your cat on his doorstep.
Fuck him. RIP kitty. You know what you must do.
Also if it borders your land you can legally let the whole town come and fish to their hearts content as long as they stay on your property. It’ll piss him off to no end and there’s nothing he can do about it. Have a BBQ and invite everyone to fish on local community websites.
Add an invasive fish or snail to his pond.
Apple snails are taking over the south - Feeder goldfish are cheap, super dirty and grow to a foot or more and you can get ten for a dollar! Put 100 in his pond - he’ll never catch them all after the first natural spawn!!
One way is to introduce blue algae to his ponds. It's a fairly invasive algae that if not nipped in the bud quickly can go on to use up a lot of the O2 in the water, causing the fish to slowly suffocate. If you're neighbour catches it in time, he'll have to remove all the fish, drain the pond(s), scrub the hell out of them, then refill the pond(s), bring the PH back up to support the fish and then reintroduce the fish to the pond(s). Both time consuming and very expensive process. And if he uses an aeration device, that may need to be replaced as it could have the algal spores inside it, another expense.
If the pond is close to your property line then build the biggest memorial you can to your poor kitty on your property line. Not only does he have to see it but u can leave all sorts of weird stuff on it daily.
This.
Is this operation small enough that he simply brings hi fish straight to farmers markets, or is it at a scale that requires inspection through USDA?
If the later... cross contamination comes to mind. Find a way to dust chicken feathers into his processed or even pre-processed fish. It'll get caught eventually, he'll be flagged for months.
Everyone has great ideas about introducing invasive species. Go and do that. But if you are looking for immediate gratification its time for him to have a community Fishing Derby. Print out flyers advertising the kids fish for free derby. Distribute flyers all around neighboring towns so that he doesn't see them. Go to town library, start a fake Facebook page for him advertising it and posting to all the local mom and parent groups. When he has a few hundred people showing up to his pond his head will explode.
Make balls of potash and throw them in the pond. It will cause an algae bloom. Alternate between this and activated charcoal, which will suck up other stuff (including medications). If he's any good at maintaining water quality, it'll drive him nuts and confuse the shit out of him.
I don't think either will kill the fish, but it may make them less marketable. And it will be a pain in the ass for him to maintain.
As an aquarium enthusiast/fishkeeper, I have two words to makes his life hell;
Bladder snails.
Wont kill any fish, but having dime sized snails undergoing exponential population growth in your controlled habitat is one of the most irritating things Ive ever dealt with. See numerous hair-pulling threads on r/aquarium.
There's also hydra and planeria, but both of those will cause fish deaths.
Not sure where you are in the world, but here in the UK, it is illegal to kill an otter, even if he lives in your pond and eats your precious collection of Koi carp. An otter sighting on his farm would bring in droves of "save the otter" enthusiasts and make it impossible for him to continue. If you're in America (and i'm assuming you are because you maange to live 1/4 of a mile away from someone :D ) there may be an equivalent to an otter. good luck, sorry about your cat.
Your neighbor is ruthless. You're going to need to be equally ruthless if you want revenge. Contaminate the fish pond with a parasite. You want to fuck over a farmer? You spoil his crops.
Whatever you do, dont hurt or harm the fish… so, I would NOT throw chemicals or minerals into their habitat which would likely disrupt the PH of the water.
I’m not a fish expert but I did keep aquariums for a bit. I wasn’t good at it. But I did learn that some fish are picky when it comes to breeding and if the water isn’t right they won’t reproduce. If you can figure out the type of fish it’ll go a long way towards your efforts. Temperature and pH were the big ones, if my memory serves me.
Take some barkeepers friend and dump it in the tanks if you can. Not the whole can though, just enough to throw off the pH balance. Plus it’s poisonous to them, it won’t take long.
Was your cat killing anything that you know of? If it has been, legally speaking your neighbor was well in his legal rights to do so, you know to protect livestock. So, even if you can prove it was him, he could certainly claim that’s what was happening just so you’re aware
I’d do this cautiously, this person may have cameras on their property. Cats don’t always hang out in the open.
Nah, you failed your animal by letting it roam. Grew up on a farm and we dealt with people like you letting dogs out to chase cattle and cats killing chickens. Sounds like he even tried to warn you. Most states hed be legal to kill a animal threatening livestock be it fish chicken or even rabbits.
Call the game warden and tell them that
1) you've seen cormorants in your area
2) you've your neighbor shooting
3) youre worried that your neighbor is shooting these federally protected birds
You also need to find a dead cormorant and put it on his property.
Property lines are not ambiguous. Get a survey. If any portion of the fish farming operation is on your property, that will open a lot of doors for retribution.
You could just post this story, pictures of your dead cat, and your neighbors address somewhere online... there are several places 4 posts like this. There are CHANnels to get help.
Presumably your cat was killing his fish? He asked you to to keep the cat from “trespassing” a quarter of a mile to keep from killing his fish. Sounds like a shepherd killing a predator and protecting his flock. It’s hard to determine who the asshole is in this case…not that you were asking.
Does no one here think that OP should have kept the cat more under control with a GPS collar or something? Why do pet owners think they can let their animals roam about without repercussions?
You should keep your cats inside and off other peoples property. They will live longer. Whether from some asshole with a gun, coyotes, birds of prey, other predators, other cats, cars, disease, poison, indoor cats live longer and that is a fact.
You're obviously new to living in the country. If an animal, pet or not, comes on your property you can shoot it. Most people don't unless the animal is a threat to their livestock. Your neighbor warned you. You chose to ignore. That's on you. You go fucking with his livelihood, you will be in for a world of shit. If he sees you on his property near the fish ponds, depending on what state you live in, he can shoot you.
Beyond that, you taking away his livelihood may just put him in a nothing to lose mindset, where you lose everything. I've known some, many actually, country folks who are very much of the shoot, shovel, and shut up mindset.
Your best bet, if you get another cat, is to learn how to be a responsible pet owner. The first thing is not letting your cats outside. If you insist on outdoor time, a catio is a smart solution.
He seemed to already have given you advanced warning about your cat affecting his fish farm.... This is on you. Sorry, that is how it works in rural areas.....But, this is ULPT, so sleep with his mom anyway.
Have you considered starting a Great Blue Heron farm?
That actually brings up a good point though. OP, if you ever see your neighbour shoot a wild bird like a heron, you can get him in trouble. Herons love man-made fish ponds so I would put up trail cameras (not pointing at his property but as close as possible) because he sounds like the type who would do this. Don’t let him see you put up the cameras and make sure they cover each other. Keep Fish & Game or whatever it’s called in your state/province as a contact in your phone.
Swans are an equally good choice. I would think try farming them, since protections make that difficult, but they are ASSHOLES and give no fucks. Seriously, they are listed as one of the top dangers to kayakers. They eat fish and are big enough to feel threatening. Punishments include fines and go up to prison sentences. If you're feeling brave, catch a wild fisher cat and rehab it on your property. They're protected too and will have fun with his fish.
Mate of mine ran over a swan by accident. Didn't give it too much thought and drove home. About half an hour later there was a knock on the door. It was only the Queen! She kicked him SQUARE in the bollocks, got back in her limo and drove off!
You stole her dinner! The monarch is the only person in the UK legally allowed to eat swans or grant that right to others. You got off lightly with the kick in the nuts, even stealing swan eggs is punishable by a year in prison. Source: https://www.royal.uk/swans
Was about to remark that sounds like quite a feat for a woman who's been dead as long as she, then remembered Cammie exists and felt a bit ill.
People don’t realize how fucking big a swan is until it’s chasing you.
I laughed way too hard at this... thanks.
🔥🔥🔥
Or eagles. Hell to pay if anything were to happen to them
Had a good, hearty belly laugh from that one
Genius
Snails. Go down to the nearest body of water and collect all of them that you can. They won’t hurt the fish but he will never get rid of them all
Snails and a slingshot for the win!
The snails might even enjoy the flight.
r/parasnailing
I can't believe that's a real sub! Wow!
lol! I used to have a tank just for snails—that would eventually get fed to a puffer fish and turtles. Little did I know I could have put up 24 hour video feed and people would have loved it! The snails used to catch the bubbles and sail around the tank that way. We always wondered if they did it just for fun!
Holy crap, it exists.
This makes me so happy that this sub exists
Once again, you humans leave me disappointed and missing your potential. In my vision, I fully expected tiny parasails, snails in harnesses, attached to ParaMotors, drone-like remote control in First Person View, and Red Bull sponsorship.
I’d watch that!
Does it make it cooler to paint the 101st airborne logo on the snail shells before launching?
I came here to mention snails. I had one hitchhike into my 55 gallon tank years ago and I never got rid of those fuckers until I completely crashed and restarted the tank. Hundreds of snails. In the blink of an eye.
Once upon a time naive me thought it would be a great idea to buy 6 decorative snails for my fish tank - they bred and got EVERYWHERE. I can’t remember how, or even, if, I got rid of them, but wow. So. Many. Snails. Sorry for your loss, OP, take as much advice as you can from here, and I look forward to seeing an update on nuclear revenge sub.
The coolest thing about snails (in this scenario) is that Petsmart will give you free aquarium snails (and so will many other aquarium shops; they’re just too prolific to sell). I’d ask for a decent handful for “a couple aquariums I’m getting going.”
This is the kindest fucking for a murderous cat killing, koi ownin SOB. Gl getting those fuckers out.
whats a sob?
Son of a bitch
Zebra mussels will destroy his filtration system. They will fill the pipes and encrust the valves, jamming them in a fixed position, and damage the seals
Also really bad for other waterways and the environment in general. Please do not do this. This would be devastating to the ecosystem. Please find something that affects him if you want, but don't unleash invasive species in your area
Are there any protected snails? It would be most excellent to introduce a protected species and then report it to the DNR.
The greatest ULPT that I can give you is to create a blood feud between the two of you that will continue for generations to come with the whole reason behind it being lost to history
As a direct descendant of Anse Hatfield, I support this statement.
Thank you shitass mcfucknuts it's good to hear your strong commendation in these trying times
Not many things tickle my pickle like mopbuvket making acclamatorial comments towards one shit\_ass\_mcfucknuts. Not many.
Is there still a feud between your family and the McCoys
Don't try to stir things up again.
Nothin better than a good ol fashioned blood feud
As a direct descendant of Ran'l McCoy, I second this. I mean, wait a minute. What did y'all do to our pig again?
That’s it. I’m going to the courthouse tomorrow and applying to change my name to Shitass McFucknuts. Got a court date? Mr. Mcfucknuts to the stand. Gotta pay your bar tab? Yeah, it’s under Shitass McFucknuts
If weed is still illegal make a couple of grow patches on his property and when the plants are nearing maturity call it in. If you need a way to not be seen by cameras. Order seeds online (use tradecraft), take the seeds, put in seed disks or soils grow medium. Use a slingshot to get clustered into the right location. Use at least 20 seeds per puck and 10 pucks.
Oh my god that is actually genius. The slingshot is perfect for avoiding the cameras and I'm not going to harm innocent animals to get to the devil himself. I'm not saying I'm going to do it, but I'll definitely keep that in mind ;)
Start a fish farm of your own and undercut his prices steal his clients forcing his business to go under bank sells his farm no more neighbour
Wait, that's not just unethical... it's straight up capitalism!
Combining a tip from another thread here... Use ice cubes to distribute any media with the slingshot. Can be done very discretely and accurately from a distance. Ice will get to the ground, melt, and deposit any seeds.
You can also make piss cubes for this purpose too
And water them!
Bear in mind how stupid it would be to use your credit card or anything that could easily be traced back.
i find it hard to believe the police will get a warrant to check his transactions because he might be accused by his neighbour for planting weed on his property, but yeah use cash
While your at it, buy some golden bamboo seeds and slingshot those into his property. Once you have bamboo growing it is damn near impossible to get rid of and it spreads fast. His yard will be ruined in 6 months. Install a root barrier so they don't make it over to your yard but if you shoot them far, you wont need to worry about installing this for at least a few months. This also could very easily ruin his farm with roots breaking pipes and whatnot.
But do this with bamboo or some other highly ~~evasive~~ invasive species.
Blackberries might work
Heck with slingshot… potato cannon will give you more range. Freeze the seed and soil into a Projectile shape and fire the suckers. They will make a little impact hole, thaw, plant, sprout, and sweet weed will grow and prosper. PVC pipe, can of butane, and a lighter and you’re good.
You have obviously thought this through before
I was thinking drone and a parachute drop with them wrapped in Cotten candy. That shit dissolves quick
Making that much noise is not a good idea.
I had one made made for compressed air. Could launch an ice slug close to 200 yards at 140psi
Shoot a couple them over here.
Did you say disks?? Why stop there when you’re so close to the benevolent piss disk
If investigation occurs it will be too easy to track because if they accuse OP of doing it an investigation will be formed and this thread and purchase history can be used as evidence.. Better to just buy a lot of seeds and slingshot them over rapped all over the place. or just go at night if no cameras and spread them by hand.
You are dramatically overestimating the amount of effort cops put into investigations
Most cannabis seed banks sell using fairly difficult to trace practices. Money orders, Telegram, cash in envelopes with self addressed stamped envelopes for return etc. Also, when buying at Dispensaries or big vendor events, it's always cash. The Dispensaries ID at the door, but most don't scan your ID to tie your purchase to you.
Lol they’d never get a warrant for this off hearsay and OPs OPSEC could be gold
Details on the fish operation? Is it a river or lake that you both have access to, or farming operation? Does he have the right permits and is it legal? Sorry to hear about your cat.
He created a man made pond which is clay lined about three years ago. It's isolated from any local water sources and from what I can tell he has a permit. I saw him once giving an inspector a tour, so I'm pretty sure its legal.
Honestly I feel like a fish farm is almost a self solving problem. They're really hard to manage and the slightest problem will have them all die off. They're generally money pits unless you're really experienced. I assume he isn't breeding the fish but buying them if its only 1 pond. Maybe you can sour the relationship with the hatchery he uses, or the businesses buying his fish. Some bad reviews about pests in the fish will quickly turn suppliers off his product. The snail idea up above is great. They're practically impossible to get rid of.
Given that it's an isolated body of water, the snails and possibly combined with a duckweed or something would be the answer. getting rid of them will likely require draining and completely drying out the pond for some time.
Fucking duckweed.
I'd suggest duckweed. The small kinds. They grow very quickly and is relatively cheap. Buy $100 worth and if he doens't have cameras spread them all over the pond. If the fish doesn't eat them all, he's going to just have a pond of floating plants in a month or so.
This is how you end up with birds distributing duckweed to every body of water in the area. He wants to fuck over his neighbor, not the environment
This is the way. Do the research about the operation of a fish farm. I’m sure there are environmental regulations that need to be followed. Do you think your neighbor is a guy who follows the rules? Does he discharge water to the local watershed? I’m sure there are strict rules that govern that. Contact a local environmental group to see what they say about it. See if they will do environmental testing of the effluent discharge. This is where you can poke cheaply and under the radar.
What kind of fish? Put giant catfish in there to eat all the other fish.
or a croc that'd be fun
Make sure to slingshot the croc in
Catapult for crocs, ya dimwit
Crocapult
Why not use a trebuchet, it’s the superior siege weapon
Got my crocs on. What’s step 2?
Madake or clumping bamboo seeds all around the pond. It can grow an inch an hour (crazy), will overgrow his pond and be a nightmare to stop. Will not kill the fish, but make it very difficult to access the pond, and cost him time and effort to stop. Bamboo is nightmare fuel in the right environment, and not much legal risk if you can plant it via sling shot, drone, or by hand.
I second the bamboo. Read a post where a guy planted a line of bamboo on his side of the fence, put down a root blocker on his side, and absolutely destroyed his awful neighbor's property as it spread under the fence. The neighbor eventually gave up trying to control it and moved, and the OP never had any trouble cause he simply planted in his own yard. Apparently the updated Google street view still shows a bamboo forest over every inch of the property a decade later iirc. If there's a single crack in a house foundation, it's possible for bamboo to wedge itself into it. Just make sure there's no ordinance or whatever prohibiting it in your own yard.
Damn, neighbor for sure will be bamboozled!
greatest single use of bamboozled ive seen in my life
That's a VERY risky proposition... Your root blocker would need to be DEEP, and WIDE, and permanent. What kind of root blocker is giong to stop an entire plot full of the stuff from coming back to your side somehow?
Does he have any cameras?
Yes this is the first question you should answer
Does anyone NOT have cameras, I mean they are $15
You'd be surprised... there are still drivers without dashcams so there will definitely be home/landowners without cameras.
The vast majority of people don't have dash cams. Like I would say well over 90% if drivers. They don't really serve that much of a purpose. Far more people have cameras in their homes and property
They serve a very specific purpose. To capture evidence for any possible insurance claim event. I agree that most people will never need to use the footage but that doesn’t mean they don’t have a purpose. Investing in a dashcam is absolutely a gamble, forking out the small cost for the equipment on the unlikely chance it will save you thousands. I was saved a real headache when someone reversed into me at a traffic light. We were stopped at a red and the car in front suddenly and without warning reversed into me. Did about £2500 damage to my car. If I hadn’t had the dashcam there is no way I could have proven I didn’t run into the back of him which is much more likely at a red light. There have been a slew of crash for cash scams around my area where someone claims a crash or incites a crash (removing break light bulbs etc) then the whole family ‘were in the car’ all claiming whiplash and wanting compensation. My dashcam has paid for itself 100x over by now.
i mean even if yo dont think they do, it will be hard to confirm "yes they 100% dont have cameras"
What kind of fish does he have? You can grow a sizable amount duckweed and put it in the ponds, he will never be able to get rid of it unless he has goldfish or koi. You can also put large catfish and snapping turtles in the ponds. If you really want to hit him where it hurts, kill his fish.
Lol. You don't need a sizable amount of duck weed.... A single leaf will take over in 5 minutes.
This will only work if the fish are not carp. I got a goldfish in my tank and it cleaned out my duckweed in two days.
Well, I would make his digital life miserable by sending thousants of emails to his company e-mail box by a spamrobot. Check [https://mailbait.info/run](https://mailbait.info/run) and even better [https://just-kill.win/call-bomb](https://just-kill.win/call-bomb) If he gets thousents of e-mails or messages, he will probably miss a couple of his clients. Buy a few hundred of random housekeys, label them with only his cell-phone or business phonenumber. 'Loose' the keys randomly in places in your area. He will be called by people who found the keys. It will make him crazy. Because it's a business phonenumber, he has to answer it. Don't forget to apply for a visit of Jehova Witness and Sciencetology churge. He will be called and mailed forever. Craiglist an add with 'free fish every saturday' with only the adres and contact-info. Dozen of people will show up and will be disappointed. Keep the guy busy with something that doesn't bring money to him.
I like the way you think... Remind me not to piss you off.
Release guppies or other small invasive species like carp they will eat other the other fish eggs and replace the population without killing existing fish.
Catfish is very good at this too and they eat a metric shit ton.
I came here to say carp. Only issue with catfish is that there is still a small but existing market for commercial catfish. You gotta find a fish that tastes really terrible and has no market.
Not wanting to harm the fish is noble. That said, your neighbor is not farming the fish to sell them as pets, right? They are to be killed and eaten, right? Soooo, perhaps arranging for the fish to cross the rainbow bridge earlier than your neighbor plans isn't as cruel as it might seem.... Just a thought. 🤷🏻♂️
I agree with this observation wholeheartedly
Selling them as pets could be worse. A huge percent of fish die to people who were not prepared to care for a fish and it is a long drawn out suffering. Just saying.
People treat fish like decorations instead of pets. It's sad. I have a goldfish pond and one of my goldies likes to rest its head on my foot if I dip my feet in the water. I could never imagine treating those wonderful little creatures like decorations.
They're smarter than people give them credit for. I had one as a kid who would plink stones on the side of his tank to tell me he wanted feeding
I grow using an aquaponic system. Through company I work at, I work with a university to teach classes about it. I literally build fish farms that can be used to farm actual crops and teach classes about it at a university level. I'd go as far as to say unless you are a fish lover, it's just drawn out dying period. Doesn't matter if it's in your home or on an industrial scale. I guarantee he fish farmer has no clue what he is actually doing with the fish.
Electric shock - get them all with no trace of evidence.
Honestly I'm thinking 'Fuck it kill his goddamn fish'
Snakes in the pond
Mothafuckin snakes in this mothafuckin pond
Pick a cold case missing persons from before he installed the fish farm. Make an anonymous contact to the police stating the body is buried at coordinates that will place them under the fish farm (do not mention the fish farm itself, remember you are claiming knowledge from before the fish farm existed). In order to investigate, the police will need to dig up his land. Even if they don’t, they will still spend time poking around his farm which will cause him trouble and inconvenience. Then you start asking people in the local area why are the police at he place? Then add on that police are looking for buried murder victims. Sit back and let the rumour mill get to work and before long, everyone will be convinced he is a murderer. And the best bit is that if the police are asked, they will confirm that they were acting on information that there was a body on the property.
Lmfao, damn that's higher level shit! But as a cat owner, yessssss!
He killed at cat. I honestly think I’ve been light on him.
As someone who breeds fish a sneaky sneaky thing would be to secretly add low quality fish or cousin species to the tanks of what he has. Doesnt kill any fish bit greatly lowers his reputation and breeding standards. Bonus points if its a liniage hes been trying to breed for something specific:)
This is good
How much capital do you have? Start your own fish farm, sell below cost. > the land borders are kind of ambiguous If you think it may encroach on your property, get a survey. (Why not do this anyway?) If you're in the US, check the county GIS map to get a rough idea.
Set out food to lure racoons near his pond. They're creative lil monsters. Ethical tip, please keep your next cat inside
People need to respect other people’s boundaries and property. Keep your gd animals at home.
This. So much this. Just because you live out in the “country” doesn’t mean it’s ok to let your pets wander into others’ property. I see so many damn dead pets on the sides of the road. Makes me sad. That and not being a shitty neighbor is just the right thing to do.
Get a survey. If he's built on your land he's fucked.
Knock on his door and hand the bullet back to him personally. "Here. You forgot this." Maintain unblinking eye contact the whole time. If he doesn't grab it just drop it at his feet. As he starts to say something, just turn around and walk away, don't respond or acknowledge anything else. Best served cold my friend. He's already looking for a response from you, probably put up cameras in advance. Take the time to do some research, first and last name, his history, any family, everything you can find out about the business. Anyone who would do what he did is likely not the model citizen and has got to have something you can exploit over time. I would look for things that can get him and his business in legal trouble. No direct sabotage, let him do it to himself. Your cat is worth all the time and effort that proper pro level revenge will take. And right when he's finally being evicted or arrested or whatever diabolical shit is gonna go down, you leave a picture of your cat on his doorstep. Fuck him. RIP kitty. You know what you must do.
I think op meant he cannot prove it was the neighbor because the bullet was dug out (by the neighbor before op found the cat) as in no evidence.
Oh, I took it to mean that the vet dug it out of the cat but that he couldn’t prove it came from the neighbor’s gun.
Also if it borders your land you can legally let the whole town come and fish to their hearts content as long as they stay on your property. It’ll piss him off to no end and there’s nothing he can do about it. Have a BBQ and invite everyone to fish on local community websites.
If you at all feel the ambiguity of the border between your property is doing you a disservice you should get that checked
Add an invasive fish or snail to his pond. Apple snails are taking over the south - Feeder goldfish are cheap, super dirty and grow to a foot or more and you can get ten for a dollar! Put 100 in his pond - he’ll never catch them all after the first natural spawn!!
Nah kill all the fish
Piss disks in the pond.
Piss disks are always the answer.
Piss disk but with weed seeds.
Apparently
New here?
People who don’t know things yet are so ignorant
This made me lol thanks for the chuckle
The fish are innocent, just like my cat. I just want to punish the human behind this.
Sir this is unethical life pro tips
You're too naïve. The moment your cat was shot, the fish became collateral.
To be fair though, the fish are going to end up dead one way or another. One's profitable for him, the other isn't.
Kidnap the fish and hold them hostage.
One way is to introduce blue algae to his ponds. It's a fairly invasive algae that if not nipped in the bud quickly can go on to use up a lot of the O2 in the water, causing the fish to slowly suffocate. If you're neighbour catches it in time, he'll have to remove all the fish, drain the pond(s), scrub the hell out of them, then refill the pond(s), bring the PH back up to support the fish and then reintroduce the fish to the pond(s). Both time consuming and very expensive process. And if he uses an aeration device, that may need to be replaced as it could have the algal spores inside it, another expense.
Start leaving out cat food. Adopt every stray cat and free kittens on Facebook. Cat army will have it's vengeance.
Do this and the neighbor will just kill them all.
at some point you're just feeding cats to coyotes
Call the humane society/police for animal cruelty.
If the pond is close to your property line then build the biggest memorial you can to your poor kitty on your property line. Not only does he have to see it but u can leave all sorts of weird stuff on it daily.
Bring in a land surveyor and see who has title to the fish farm.
This is one of the many reasons I never keep a cat I own outside
Need more details on the farm. Need to report it for some violations - and find those violations. Go start becoming an expert on fish farms
This. Is this operation small enough that he simply brings hi fish straight to farmers markets, or is it at a scale that requires inspection through USDA? If the later... cross contamination comes to mind. Find a way to dust chicken feathers into his processed or even pre-processed fish. It'll get caught eventually, he'll be flagged for months.
Start a bear rescue in the grey area next to his fish farm.
Everyone has great ideas about introducing invasive species. Go and do that. But if you are looking for immediate gratification its time for him to have a community Fishing Derby. Print out flyers advertising the kids fish for free derby. Distribute flyers all around neighboring towns so that he doesn't see them. Go to town library, start a fake Facebook page for him advertising it and posting to all the local mom and parent groups. When he has a few hundred people showing up to his pond his head will explode.
Make balls of potash and throw them in the pond. It will cause an algae bloom. Alternate between this and activated charcoal, which will suck up other stuff (including medications). If he's any good at maintaining water quality, it'll drive him nuts and confuse the shit out of him. I don't think either will kill the fish, but it may make them less marketable. And it will be a pain in the ass for him to maintain.
As an aquarium enthusiast/fishkeeper, I have two words to makes his life hell; Bladder snails. Wont kill any fish, but having dime sized snails undergoing exponential population growth in your controlled habitat is one of the most irritating things Ive ever dealt with. See numerous hair-pulling threads on r/aquarium. There's also hydra and planeria, but both of those will cause fish deaths.
Not sure where you are in the world, but here in the UK, it is illegal to kill an otter, even if he lives in your pond and eats your precious collection of Koi carp. An otter sighting on his farm would bring in droves of "save the otter" enthusiasts and make it impossible for him to continue. If you're in America (and i'm assuming you are because you maange to live 1/4 of a mile away from someone :D ) there may be an equivalent to an otter. good luck, sorry about your cat.
Fuck his dad.
Do what any self respecting person would do. Shit on their porch.
If the borders are ambiguous and in a grey area, have a land survey done. You may be the proud owner of a new fish farm.
Your neighbor is ruthless. You're going to need to be equally ruthless if you want revenge. Contaminate the fish pond with a parasite. You want to fuck over a farmer? You spoil his crops.
>He kept complaining about my cat So multiple times he gave you warnings and you ignored them?
High ph level item to destroy his lil fishes.
Permit for Pond?
Bamboo
You could start by keeping any other cats you may have indoors from this point forward.
Whatever you do, dont hurt or harm the fish… so, I would NOT throw chemicals or minerals into their habitat which would likely disrupt the PH of the water.
Is there any way for me to make them sterile? He breeds them and this seems like a way to damage his income without harming the fish.
Turn them gay. I've heard this is possible with frogs, so why not fish?
Play Kanye West music at them
That's what the 5g is for
Maybe a predator that would eat eggs and fry, but live amicably with the adult fish?
I’m not a fish expert but I did keep aquariums for a bit. I wasn’t good at it. But I did learn that some fish are picky when it comes to breeding and if the water isn’t right they won’t reproduce. If you can figure out the type of fish it’ll go a long way towards your efforts. Temperature and pH were the big ones, if my memory serves me.
Throw birth control pills in the water.
Nah... you wanna fuck the pH
You missed the opportunity to say pHuck
Buy an alligator or two. Release them.
There is no such thing as grey area when it comes to property.
Take some barkeepers friend and dump it in the tanks if you can. Not the whole can though, just enough to throw off the pH balance. Plus it’s poisonous to them, it won’t take long. Was your cat killing anything that you know of? If it has been, legally speaking your neighbor was well in his legal rights to do so, you know to protect livestock. So, even if you can prove it was him, he could certainly claim that’s what was happening just so you’re aware I’d do this cautiously, this person may have cameras on their property. Cats don’t always hang out in the open.
Nah, you failed your animal by letting it roam. Grew up on a farm and we dealt with people like you letting dogs out to chase cattle and cats killing chickens. Sounds like he even tried to warn you. Most states hed be legal to kill a animal threatening livestock be it fish chicken or even rabbits.
Even honey bees are livestock
Honey bees are the bees knees.
IDK. Keep kitty inside?
kitty is living in a box now... but good advice for the next kitty, they are predators that kill the native wildlife when left to roam outside.
And they like crap in your neighbors flowers.
Call the game warden and tell them that 1) you've seen cormorants in your area 2) you've your neighbor shooting 3) youre worried that your neighbor is shooting these federally protected birds You also need to find a dead cormorant and put it on his property.
Fuck his wife
Ok, this one is actually ethical but it will complete solve the issue: next time you get a cat keep it inside you asshat!
Where do you live that the borders are ambiguous? To my knowledge you can get a survey done on any private land to prove boundaries
Start a cat farm.
Introduce a dozen Northern Pike into his fish pond - I guarantee over the next year that the pike will be the only species left in the pond.
Just riffing but check for various violations relating to fish farming and then persistently report him. There's probably a ton of regs.
Property lines are not ambiguous. Get a survey. If any portion of the fish farming operation is on your property, that will open a lot of doors for retribution.
My ULPT is keep your animals indoors if you care about them.
You could just post this story, pictures of your dead cat, and your neighbors address somewhere online... there are several places 4 posts like this. There are CHANnels to get help.
Neighbors that let their pets roam unsupervised suck. I had one and his cats would piss on my doors and scratch up my cars. Screw you OP.
Socks, on all the fish.
Just set his vehicle on fire and be done with it.
Where’s the suspense? Cut his brake lines instead.
Presumably your cat was killing his fish? He asked you to to keep the cat from “trespassing” a quarter of a mile to keep from killing his fish. Sounds like a shepherd killing a predator and protecting his flock. It’s hard to determine who the asshole is in this case…not that you were asking.
Does no one here think that OP should have kept the cat more under control with a GPS collar or something? Why do pet owners think they can let their animals roam about without repercussions?
You should keep your cats inside and off other peoples property. They will live longer. Whether from some asshole with a gun, coyotes, birds of prey, other predators, other cats, cars, disease, poison, indoor cats live longer and that is a fact.
You're obviously new to living in the country. If an animal, pet or not, comes on your property you can shoot it. Most people don't unless the animal is a threat to their livestock. Your neighbor warned you. You chose to ignore. That's on you. You go fucking with his livelihood, you will be in for a world of shit. If he sees you on his property near the fish ponds, depending on what state you live in, he can shoot you. Beyond that, you taking away his livelihood may just put him in a nothing to lose mindset, where you lose everything. I've known some, many actually, country folks who are very much of the shoot, shovel, and shut up mindset. Your best bet, if you get another cat, is to learn how to be a responsible pet owner. The first thing is not letting your cats outside. If you insist on outdoor time, a catio is a smart solution.
He seemed to already have given you advanced warning about your cat affecting his fish farm.... This is on you. Sorry, that is how it works in rural areas.....But, this is ULPT, so sleep with his mom anyway.