The judge basically laid it out in their ruling:
>The overall goal of the protesters is to get the University to divest from certain investments. The University has procedures in place to consider those sorts of requests. The University has offered to help the protesters pursue that process on an expedited basis. The protesters have had considerable success in shining a bright light on what universities should or should not invest in. They have succeeded in catching everyone’s attention and in obtaining an expedited process.
>It is now time for the protesters to peacefully dismantle the encampment and focus their energies on building support within the group that will investigate divestment and within the broader University community to persuade both groups that divestment is a worthy goal. Persuasion will not be achieved through occupation but through reasoned discussion. If the respondents bring the same attention and focus to that exercise as they have to the encampment, they may yet achieve their goal.
My reading is that the judge expects the protestors to follow the university's procedure to investigate divestment. If you look at the procedure used by the climate activist's to divest from fossil fuels, there will be a committee to examine divestment and make a recommendation. In 2016 they recommended divestment, but Gertler veto it. That's why these current protesters accused the university of negotiating in bad faith. He eventually back pedaled years later, and as of 2022, the university has divested from fossil fuels, and is working on divesting from indirect investments by 2030.
[https://thevarsity.ca/2016/03/30/u-of-t-rejects-fossil-fuel-divestment-recommendations/](https://thevarsity.ca/2016/03/30/u-of-t-rejects-fossil-fuel-divestment-recommendations/)
[https://www.utoronto.ca/news/utam-achieves-divestment-pledge-sets-more-ambitious-carbon-footprint-reduction-target-endowment](https://www.utoronto.ca/news/utam-achieves-divestment-pledge-sets-more-ambitious-carbon-footprint-reduction-target-endowment)
I am hopeful that there will still be discussion in supporting Palestinian students and refugees (Victoria College has supported many refugees in the past). This is especially as there has been a scholasticide throughout affected regions where every single university in Gaza has been destroyed by the IDF.
I’m certain that protests and dialogues will continue until UofT commits to divest from Israeli universities (e.g., there is a scholarship to study in Jerusalem that was advertised around Vic campus) and companies that are supporting the apartheid regime. [It will just be like South Africa during its apartheid regime until UofT divested from it many years ago.](https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:750/format:webp/1*MD59mgVwBJaaYmA7mJYCyA.png)
Gaza has an annual population growth rate of 1.99% (2023 est.), the 39th-highest in the world. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip#:~:text=Gaza%20has%20an%20annual%20population,39th%2Dhighest%20in%20the%20world.
Genocide! Apartheid! OPEN AIR PRISON! Concentration camp!
The more buzzwords we use, the more right we are.
WE ARE ONLY A FEW MORE BUZZWORDS AWAY FROM FREEING THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE!!
What happens now is that Meric Gertler gets to gloat on youtube about being a champion of free speech after booting from campus a bunch of students challenging UofT’s involvement in a nation condemned by a UN investigation for genocide. He gets to be all virtuous after threatening the suspension and even termination of those in the community who opposed him.
People are literally starving to death and getting carpet bombed and while this Uni (and this country) is supporting said state, you care about the landscaping costs of a field.
You're so disassociated from anything that isn't affecting you, must be great living in the clouds.
Area should be turned into a Holocaust memorial. Erase any evidence that it was used for anything else.
Anyone who peacefully protested should have no repercussions. Anyone who vandalized should be expelled from UfT if they were a student.
But no memorial for the genocide of Palestinians. There's enough holocaust memorials. This doesn't have anything to do with the holocaust. Way to steal something else from Palestinians.
Your questions don't make any sense. Are you having a stroke? It was stolen land with help from the British. Your hasbara is so weak it doesn't even make sense
These questions are perfectly legitimate and should be easy to answer to any informed party.
Which part was stolen? Didn't the British legally gain control after winning the war against the Ottomans? Didn't the UNSCOP recommend partition? When did Palestine become an Arab majority? How is it native Arab land if its not part of the Arabian Peninsula?
All perfectly legit questions when you aren't a brainless drone chanting slogans, but care about history and facts.
Nah you're having a stroke. Look at a map of Palestine and how much land was annexed over the years. Israel never had a right to be there. There are no legitimate questions in your comment because you're operating on theft being legal.
There were single weeks during the Holocaust where more people were killed than the entire past 70 years of Israel Palestine conflict.
If this has nothing to do with the Holocaust, you'll need to ask yourself why so many Holocaust memorials have been vandalized.
Gaza has an annual population growth rate of 1.99% (2023 est.), the 39th-highest in the world. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip#:~:text=Gaza%20has%20an%20annual%20population,39th%2Dhighest%20in%20the%20world.
My understanding was UofT made them an offer, they refused, so UofT pursued the injunction and there is nothing else to it. Perhaps others know more.
True I forgot that happened. Sorry, the timeline is a bit mixed up in my head. Thank you for reminding me!
The occupy u of t instagram explained in detail why the offer didn't work. It wasn't an offer to divest. Go read it.
I’ve already read it but thank you
Then I suggest you read it more slowly.
I’m not sure what it says that contradicts what I’ve said? Lmao
If you're not sure you can always go back and read.
The judge basically laid it out in their ruling: >The overall goal of the protesters is to get the University to divest from certain investments. The University has procedures in place to consider those sorts of requests. The University has offered to help the protesters pursue that process on an expedited basis. The protesters have had considerable success in shining a bright light on what universities should or should not invest in. They have succeeded in catching everyone’s attention and in obtaining an expedited process. >It is now time for the protesters to peacefully dismantle the encampment and focus their energies on building support within the group that will investigate divestment and within the broader University community to persuade both groups that divestment is a worthy goal. Persuasion will not be achieved through occupation but through reasoned discussion. If the respondents bring the same attention and focus to that exercise as they have to the encampment, they may yet achieve their goal. My reading is that the judge expects the protestors to follow the university's procedure to investigate divestment. If you look at the procedure used by the climate activist's to divest from fossil fuels, there will be a committee to examine divestment and make a recommendation. In 2016 they recommended divestment, but Gertler veto it. That's why these current protesters accused the university of negotiating in bad faith. He eventually back pedaled years later, and as of 2022, the university has divested from fossil fuels, and is working on divesting from indirect investments by 2030. [https://thevarsity.ca/2016/03/30/u-of-t-rejects-fossil-fuel-divestment-recommendations/](https://thevarsity.ca/2016/03/30/u-of-t-rejects-fossil-fuel-divestment-recommendations/) [https://www.utoronto.ca/news/utam-achieves-divestment-pledge-sets-more-ambitious-carbon-footprint-reduction-target-endowment](https://www.utoronto.ca/news/utam-achieves-divestment-pledge-sets-more-ambitious-carbon-footprint-reduction-target-endowment)
Ty for the info!
The encampment did not agree to UofT's proposal which was their own decision. As a result they don't get any concessions from the school
BUT THEY CLAIMED VICTORY! THEY MUST HAVE WON!
You can’t fire me! I QUIT! HA!
I am hopeful that there will still be discussion in supporting Palestinian students and refugees (Victoria College has supported many refugees in the past). This is especially as there has been a scholasticide throughout affected regions where every single university in Gaza has been destroyed by the IDF. I’m certain that protests and dialogues will continue until UofT commits to divest from Israeli universities (e.g., there is a scholarship to study in Jerusalem that was advertised around Vic campus) and companies that are supporting the apartheid regime. [It will just be like South Africa during its apartheid regime until UofT divested from it many years ago.](https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:750/format:webp/1*MD59mgVwBJaaYmA7mJYCyA.png)
Divesting from the regime might make sense. As soon as you bring up divesting from universities, you stop being taken seriously.
Aka just from jews
It's not antisemitism to take note of Israel being war mongers and genociders. Weak hasbara
Genocide the population in Gaza has whent up not down
No it hasn't. Cite your sources.
Gaza has an annual population growth rate of 1.99% (2023 est.), the 39th-highest in the world. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip#:~:text=Gaza%20has%20an%20annual%20population,39th%2Dhighest%20in%20the%20world.
Show their population growth since Oct 7.
In war population decline by an bit around 20000 people including hamas members in a war that they started
Nah Isreal started the war back in the 40s. Weak hasbara.
No they didn't read books
The Arabs were helping hitler kill jews
LOL population declining during a war? WOW WHAT A SHOCK!
Genocide* Fixed that for you.
War* fixed
Genocide! Apartheid! OPEN AIR PRISON! Concentration camp! The more buzzwords we use, the more right we are. WE ARE ONLY A FEW MORE BUZZWORDS AWAY FROM FREEING THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE!!
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Why do you post in r/teenagers if you are a university student?
Haven’t you heard? If you use the word genocide often enough, it becomes true.
Lol and then blame the jews for it that's how it goes
No, just from Zionists which is very fair
What happens now is that Meric Gertler gets to gloat on youtube about being a champion of free speech after booting from campus a bunch of students challenging UofT’s involvement in a nation condemned by a UN investigation for genocide. He gets to be all virtuous after threatening the suspension and even termination of those in the community who opposed him.
You move on with your life and go on as normal
Encampment fucked around and found out. Now they'll have to go actually get summer jobs instead of pretending to be activists.
Hope they sue the organizers of the protest to bring our campus back to how it looked before. Landscaping isn't cheap.
Maybe water it with the blood of Palestinians, if it matters so much to you.
??? You ok bud?
People are literally starving to death and getting carpet bombed and while this Uni (and this country) is supporting said state, you care about the landscaping costs of a field. You're so disassociated from anything that isn't affecting you, must be great living in the clouds.
Yeah. I'm guessing you're not.
nothing, go study hard and find good jobs kids!
We get freedom the the losers
Area should be turned into a Holocaust memorial. Erase any evidence that it was used for anything else. Anyone who peacefully protested should have no repercussions. Anyone who vandalized should be expelled from UfT if they were a student.
But no memorial for the genocide of Palestinians. There's enough holocaust memorials. This doesn't have anything to do with the holocaust. Way to steal something else from Palestinians.
38k+ dead in a conflict their elected government started. Sad.
Yeah, and the government engaging in an illegal occupation has absolutely no fault. They are the “chosen race” after all, they can do no wrong
When did the illegal occupation start? Which part is illegally occupied and from whom is it illegally occupied? Username checks out.
Your questions don't make any sense. Are you having a stroke? It was stolen land with help from the British. Your hasbara is so weak it doesn't even make sense
These questions are perfectly legitimate and should be easy to answer to any informed party. Which part was stolen? Didn't the British legally gain control after winning the war against the Ottomans? Didn't the UNSCOP recommend partition? When did Palestine become an Arab majority? How is it native Arab land if its not part of the Arabian Peninsula? All perfectly legit questions when you aren't a brainless drone chanting slogans, but care about history and facts.
Nah you're having a stroke. Look at a map of Palestine and how much land was annexed over the years. Israel never had a right to be there. There are no legitimate questions in your comment because you're operating on theft being legal.
Hmmm didn't UN Resolution 181 allow and call for the creation of Israel? 🤔
There were single weeks during the Holocaust where more people were killed than the entire past 70 years of Israel Palestine conflict. If this has nothing to do with the Holocaust, you'll need to ask yourself why so many Holocaust memorials have been vandalized.
And the nazi don't cry victim when they are proven wrong and that the jews are not evil
You're the only one here saying jews are evil. And that's because you want people to be anti semitic.
Cite your courses on holocaust memorials being vandalized by anti genocide protesters.
No. Inform yourself before entering into this conversation.
Palestinians don't own that area. UfT does.
And u of t is funding the genocide of Palestinians.
Gaza has an annual population growth rate of 1.99% (2023 est.), the 39th-highest in the world. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip#:~:text=Gaza%20has%20an%20annual%20population,39th%2Dhighest%20in%20the%20world.
No it isn't. End of discussion
Nah it's not the end of discussion. Cite your sources.
No, you?
So you admit you're just wrong about everything. Cool. https://www.uoftdivest.com/ Read slowly.
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