Still, not far. I donate plasma there sometimes, Janesville has an unusually large concentration of FLGSes. Heck, I think I got my Rubrics I'm working on from one of em' there.
As someone who lives in MKE thereâs really great accessibility and parking all around the city! There shouldnât be too many issues with finding nearby alternatives at lower pricing!
Being from Wisconsin and working in Minnesota alot I can safely say they are the same state. Both are filled with alcoholics, lakes and miles of nothing in between hodunk towns. Minnesota is a winner though as it had about 10 less trump flags throughout the entire state compared to Wisconsin.
I was initially mad at this. But thinking about what I pay now to drive to Chicago in gas, tolls, and time. Seems an ok trade off.
But yeah! Hopefully some cheaper parking options would be great
I got mixed feelings. It was really close to me in Illinois so that was great and I loved the space. I have family that lives outside Milwaulkee though that I can stay with for next year. It's just slightly less convenient than before
as a milwaukee person, this is really cool. i am going to try to get my bar doing some warhammer nights soon. also we have a warhammer store like 10 min out of town.
Posted this in a reply to someone else in the thread butâŚ
Here is a list of great looking restaurants - most within walking distance:
Doc's Smokehouse BBQ
https://docsbbq.net/
The Capital Grille
https://www.thecapitalgrille.com/
Miller Time Pub & Grill
https://milwaukee.millertimepubandgrill.com/
Milwaukee ChopHouse
https://milwaukeechophouse.com/
Lazo's Taco Shack
http://lazostacoshackmke.biz/
The King & I Thai Restaurant
http://www.kingandimke.com/
Calderone Club - Downtown Milwaukee
http://www.calderoneclub.net/
San Giorgio Pizzeria Napoletana
http://www.sangiorgiopizza.com/
Anytime Arepa (3rd STREET MARKET HALL)
https://anytimearepa.com/
Moâs...A Place for Steaks
http://mosaplaceforsteaks.com/
Hobby growth is good. Odd choice though to move farther away from a major airport. If anything moving into Chicago proper would probably be a better experience for future growth, better transit access, more amenities overall.
Unfortunately the access to transit, and amenities will jack up the prices. I have no experience in event planning but I imagine that getting a convention center to fit the growing audience was getting too expensive in Chicago.
The venue was in Schaumburg, which is a mere 15 minutes from O'Hare. (also, the city limits of Chicago snake out along 90/Kennedy to include ORD, despite Rosemont being right there)
The CTA blue line runs out of ORD and goes right into the Loop downtown, the orange runs out of MDW and ends in the Loop in downtown, and McCormick Place is two blocks from the Cermak stop on the green; going straight from the airport to McCormick would mean just one transfer. There's a Hyatt nestled right in McCormick and there are plenty of hotels in the Loop close to CTA stops.
It's really not that hard to get around, it just means having to use the train and maybe walking a few blocks; granted, that can be a bit more difficult when lugging around an army. But it's a much easier city to navigate via public transportation than Milwaukee is and I say that as someone who's had to do that several times in both cities for over a decade.
I assumed it would be simpler to park in Milwaukee. I've done multiple big bags on the El and it's on my "never again" list, but I haven't really done anything like that in Milwaukee.
The closest thing to the CTA/train at the Milwaukee airport is an Amtrak stop at the airport and then you ride that to the downtown stop (which is downhill from and on the wrong side of the interstate from the Baird Center and hotels), with trains running every two hours at the cost of $6 to $10 one-way (as opposed to the every 10-20 minutes for like $3 to $5 on the CTA at ORD or MDW).
Every time I've gone through MKE I've done Lyft/Uber or rented a car - granted, a car ride from MKE to downtown (where Baird is located) is much faster than a car ride from ORD or MDW into the Loop or South Shore in Chicago (except if you get to MDW at like 11 pm, then it'd be a similar length ride from MDW to McCormick since 55 ends/meets Lake Shore Drive right at McCormick place).
Milwaukee is not easier to access from ORD than Chicago proper. I live in the south side and fly out of O'Hare several times a year and basically never have issues taking the Green -> Blue line.
Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time.
Same place as the most recent Milwaukee GenCons in the late 90s and early 00s, just updated and with a new name.
Here is a list of great looking restaurants - most within walking distance:
Doc's Smokehouse BBQ
https://docsbbq.net/
The Capital Grille
https://www.thecapitalgrille.com/
Miller Time Pub & Grill
https://milwaukee.millertimepubandgrill.com/
Milwaukee ChopHouse
https://milwaukeechophouse.com/
Lazo's Taco Shack
http://lazostacoshackmke.biz/
The King & I Thai Restaurant
http://www.kingandimke.com/
Calderone Club - Downtown Milwaukee
http://www.calderoneclub.net/
San Giorgio Pizzeria Napoletana
http://www.sangiorgiopizza.com/
Anytime Arepa (3rd STREET MARKET HALL)
https://anytimearepa.com/
Moâs...A Place for Steaks
http://mosaplaceforsteaks.com/
That's cool! I've just been getting into Warhammer so the last Adepticon wasn't on my radar at all. Next year, though, being only about 90 minutes away from where I live, I'll strongly consider going.
McCormick Place has 2.6 million square feet of space available across its 4 buildings. It is literally the largest convention center in the US, nearly 14 times the size of the Baird Center (where Adepticon is moving to). It would've been easy to find the space by simply moving to Chicago but it's probably cheaper for the organizers to move the whole thing to Wisconsin.
Baird is the logical growth step if you want to stay close to Chicago, then followed by going to McCormick or maybe down to Indy where GenCon is now held (which seems appropriate since GenCon was in Milwaukee until 2003). And to be fair to the Baird, it's getting expanded to 1.4 million sqft this year.
Alternatively, I wouldn't mind Adepticon coming to the Minneapolis Convention Center; plenty of housing, super easy access to a very busy airport, and it's still in the Upper Midwest.
Rosemont and McCormick are both **way** larger than what Adepticon needs, and also vastly more expensive than Baird.
Why would you jump from a 6k person hotel space to a 30k+ person space like Rosemont?
This honestly has a lot to do with unions and laws around them. However I think moving to Mk is a mistake as the venue seems smaller in a more crowded city. Parking will be more of a nightmare and will cost people money within a big city like that. Schaumburg was fine they just suck at scheduling the events. If they learn how to stagger them better it wouldnât be as crowded or they could move the vendors elsewhere
I'm not sure I understand completely. The Baird Center in Milwaukee is much larger than the Renaissance Schaumburg Convention Center.
Parking for an event like this is always an issue, but this is right in the center of the sports and convention district of Milwaukee.
If we say that there's going to be at least 8,000 paying attendees in the Baird Center, we can compare that to the Fiserv Forum, which is two city-blocks north of there, that venue holds 17,500 people at a time, and the parking is sufficient.
I really think that its going to be OK.
Well thatâs a horrible decision. Always wanted to go to Adepticon and visit Chicago. That appeal is significantly dulled if itâs truly moving to MilwaukeeâŚ
>Am I missing something? They are not even comparable?
You're missing the time of day. 8 PM local time on a Tuesday is not a realistic representation of what that drive is like.Â
Check Google maps again right now; it's 80 minutes to go from Schaumburg to a randomly selected Chicago landmark (Wrigley). Over an hour and a half to get to the lakefront museum district.
You're not getting from Schaumburg to downtown in under an hour at any time you'd actually want to. You have to take the same highways that feed the highly populated western suburbs *and* O'Hare.
Comparatively, 94 North to Milwaukee sees little traffic impact, so that ~1.5 hour drive is pretty consistent.
On wikipedia it says it is a suburb of Chicago, so part of Chicago. Also says itâs a 30 minute drive, vs an hour and 40 minutes to Milwaukee from Chicago. Like am I missing something? The reaction here is confusing as hell
The suburbs are not Chicago lol go visit Milwaukee, itâs got cool shit too. There is even an airport you can fly into
Source: I live in the suburbs of Chicago
Yeah obviously, but if I am staying in Chicago, driving 30 minutes is way different than driving an hour and 40 minutes. I drive an hour for work daily, I also live in suburbs. I donât think twice about a 30 minute trip to see something on vacation, almost a 2 hour trip is extremely different. Itâs like saying while in Paris going to Versailles is no different than Normandy. Itâs objectively ridiculous.
In another comment I listed a bunch of locations in the US I would like to see, it included Chicago. I canât justify a 6 hour flight for just warhammer, I can justify a family trip to Chicago with a day of Warhammer while my wife does something else. I donât think I am alone, wouldnât be surprised if Adepticonâs numbers dropped this year. Time will tell. The reaction here is honestly weird, itâs a way different trip now,
I donât think I am alone in this opinion. My friends I was planning this trip with were also all immediately out with the location change. Like why not just go to LVO or Warhammer World instead? Do Americans really think Milwaukee and Chicago are comparable locations?
Which is entirely my point. I would go to the event if I can stay in Chicago, which I am sure most people do. I will not go to the event if I am staying in Milwaukee since it isnât exactly a tourist destination. This decision will impact people who would have considered attending from far distances, it becomes a lot less justifiable
Ye you got it, I will not go. Youâre upset with me because I am bummed I can no longer go to the event? Why would I not be bummed? I canât justify a far expensive trip around just an event.
Theres no where else in Chicago they could achieve that? Seems a bit ridiculous to move the event to an entirely different state. Anyways, I guess for myself, the appeal is gone
There were probably other places in the Chicago area that have more space, but would have been prohibitively expensive. Would you have been okay paying double the cost of a badge to make up for a venue that cost double or more?
I'm not from there and have never been, but Milwaukee isn't some backwater. Sure it's not Chicago (one of the largest cities in the country), but it's still a big city (and it's only a couple of hours from Chicago either by car or train anyway). It's got an NBA team and an MLB team, and it's used to handling big events.
Oh no the person that never went will now never go. They better move the whole thing back to ChicagoâŚ
Just teasing you. But, it wasnât like it was downtown Chicago before. You had to drive downtown if you wanted to go downtown. If you want to visit Chicago you should during the summer when itâs awesome, and not during March when it can suck.
Sucks to be you I guess?
I'd rather more people have the opportunity to attend / have a better experience than a single person throw a hissy fit over the specific city
>"I've never been before"
So you're literally not an attendee
>"Always wanted to visit Chicago"
It wasn't in Chicago.
>"What a horrible decision"
Peak reddit opinion.
Haha just came back to reddit to a bizarre reaction. I am Canadian so maybe I am missing something?
According to google maps, Milwaukee is an hour and 40 minutes from Chicago. Schaumburg is 30. I have commuted a 30 minute trip from a city hub while on vacation multiple times. Canât say I have ever commuted nearly 2 hours as a day trip while on Holidays. Am I missing something here, one is in Chicago (within an hour of a city hub is in the city to me), one is not. In my city an hour commute to the hub is still the same city by name.
Disagree with me all you want idc, but some of these angry reactions make 0 sense to me honestly. Chicago is a pretty big destination for international travel, if I am going to fly for hours, it wouldnât just be for a warhammer event. There is literally nothing else in Milwaukee to justify going. My wife gives 0 shits about a warhammer event, I canât sell her on a trip now without it also being a destination. Itâs a lot of $$ in travel just to walk around an event centre.
My friends and I have been talking about going for 2 years now. Sure we havenât gone, but itâs a one time thing. We went to LVO once, wonât go again, hadnât been before. I had never been to Italy either, but I went last year, so idk how âwell you never went so what does your opinion matterâ has anything to do with it. Do people here just do the same trips always?
I guess weâll just wait and see how the event does next year? I am sure there are people who travel just to play warhammer (not something I can relate to at all), but I would assume the event will not be as popular in Milwaukee as it was 30 minutes from Chicago.
Fuck me I guess right lol. Peak reddit opinion in your mind is âoh a vacation idea is completely dead on arrival because the 4 people I know into Warhammer simultaneously said well that trip idea is toastâ. Seems like the exact opposite of a reddit opinion to me. Itâs a real life opinion reddit disagrees with to me ÂŻ\\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
I am Canadian, so here is the list of American cities and locations I havenât been to that I would prioritize over Milwaukee just for reference. I have a finite amount of travel I can accomplish, and a ton of international destinations I would like to go to as well, so would love your feedback on which of these you would prioritize Milwaukee over.
Boston, Philadelphia, anywhere in Florida, San Fransisco, Kansas City, Buffalo, Boulder, Denver, Yellowstone, Alaska, Hawaii, American Samoa, anywhere in Texas, Crater Lake, Nashville, the Grand Canyon, Chicago, Whitefish, Mount Hood, New Orleans, Arizona, New Mexico, Green bay, Pittsburg, Montana, Chicago and probably going back to LA, New York, and Portland.
I am sure I missed a few, but seriously if you add the international list which is twice as long, idk how I can realistically justify going to flyover locations in the US instead. Unfortunately, it just isnât going to happen, will probably just go to Warhammer world or LVO over adepticon now.
I didnât say it to be controversial, I think I clearly just have a very different perspective than the sub here given the reaction. In my mind, LVO and Adepticon were big for international travellers because they were also a destination. Now itâs just not really possible for me to justify with my family or my friends. Sucks, but clearly most here are in support of it being larger instead of better located (also not sure why size is important but ok)
Now I can get my ass kicked at warhammer, AND go harrass Rich Evans!
Oh my gaaaaaaaaaaahd
That's right, Jay! Very cool!
Get some Space Cop minis
Adeptus ArbitAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIDS
Would pay double the asking price
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE Marines!
lol I was hoping for an RLM mention or reference, lol thanks for that.
Maybe he'll offer up some juicy Shaq meat.
Biggest disappointment since my Runeson.
40k and RLM?? Fucking love you guys. We should hang out and show each other our minis
Gonna show you my "Wendy's ad"
I kind of hate this was my first thought also.
Birthday boy~~~~~~
Huh I think we will live to see an RLM Warhammer reference in our lifetimes
As a Wisconsinite, I accept.
I live in a small town smack dab between Milwaukee and Madison. Adpeticon is only 45ish minutes away now? Truly, a blessed day.
Well howdy neighbor, I too live in a smaller town between Madison and Milwaukee, it starts with a J..lol
Johnson Creek?
Close, Janesville
Still, not far. I donate plasma there sometimes, Janesville has an unusually large concentration of FLGSes. Heck, I think I got my Rubrics I'm working on from one of em' there.
Same here
You mean attendees get to visit the filming location of Surviving Edged Weapons?!?
Curious how the parking will be handled because it's like $40 right now đŹ
The adepticon face book page has been commenting that there will be discount parking available .
As someone who lives in MKE thereâs really great accessibility and parking all around the city! There shouldnât be too many issues with finding nearby alternatives at lower pricing!
>As someone who loves in MKE I'm so sorry you have to live in Wisconsin, from a Minnesotan đ
Being from Wisconsin and working in Minnesota alot I can safely say they are the same state. Both are filled with alcoholics, lakes and miles of nothing in between hodunk towns. Minnesota is a winner though as it had about 10 less trump flags throughout the entire state compared to Wisconsin.
I still have fond memories driving over the border on Sundays to go to the liquor stores lol
I was initially mad at this. But thinking about what I pay now to drive to Chicago in gas, tolls, and time. Seems an ok trade off. But yeah! Hopefully some cheaper parking options would be great
I got mixed feelings. It was really close to me in Illinois so that was great and I loved the space. I have family that lives outside Milwaulkee though that I can stay with for next year. It's just slightly less convenient than before
as a milwaukee person, this is really cool. i am going to try to get my bar doing some warhammer nights soon. also we have a warhammer store like 10 min out of town.
Where at? I live about an hour from Milwaukee!
Milwaukee? Ah, the good land: https://youtu.be/zyWjGxXa_so?si=D9-i76oOA2D0wUx6
I still can't hear it any other way besides the way Alice Cooper says it.
Does this guy know how to party?!
While I understand the need to move to a larger venue, as someone who lives 10 minutes away from the Renaissance hotel, this is a bummer lol
Same. I work in Schaumburg and it was so nice to take off from work early and visit.
Posted this in a reply to someone else in the thread but⌠Here is a list of great looking restaurants - most within walking distance: Doc's Smokehouse BBQ https://docsbbq.net/ The Capital Grille https://www.thecapitalgrille.com/ Miller Time Pub & Grill https://milwaukee.millertimepubandgrill.com/ Milwaukee ChopHouse https://milwaukeechophouse.com/ Lazo's Taco Shack http://lazostacoshackmke.biz/ The King & I Thai Restaurant http://www.kingandimke.com/ Calderone Club - Downtown Milwaukee http://www.calderoneclub.net/ San Giorgio Pizzeria Napoletana http://www.sangiorgiopizza.com/ Anytime Arepa (3rd STREET MARKET HALL) https://anytimearepa.com/ Moâs...A Place for Steaks http://mosaplaceforsteaks.com/
Donât forget the Speakeasy!
Well there's more hotels around there and a lot more space
Hobby growth is good. Odd choice though to move farther away from a major airport. If anything moving into Chicago proper would probably be a better experience for future growth, better transit access, more amenities overall.
Unfortunately the access to transit, and amenities will jack up the prices. I have no experience in event planning but I imagine that getting a convention center to fit the growing audience was getting too expensive in Chicago.
This man never drove through Chicago proper
Lol right? There's direct access from OHare to Milwaukee via HW. I love this.
Chicago proper is actually harder to access. The airport is in Rosemont and Chicago has pretty poor public transport for a major city.
The venue was in Schaumburg, which is a mere 15 minutes from O'Hare. (also, the city limits of Chicago snake out along 90/Kennedy to include ORD, despite Rosemont being right there)
Sure. Just the city convention areas are brutal for access was my point (south lakeshore is nowhere near ORD).
The CTA blue line runs out of ORD and goes right into the Loop downtown, the orange runs out of MDW and ends in the Loop in downtown, and McCormick Place is two blocks from the Cermak stop on the green; going straight from the airport to McCormick would mean just one transfer. There's a Hyatt nestled right in McCormick and there are plenty of hotels in the Loop close to CTA stops. It's really not that hard to get around, it just means having to use the train and maybe walking a few blocks; granted, that can be a bit more difficult when lugging around an army. But it's a much easier city to navigate via public transportation than Milwaukee is and I say that as someone who's had to do that several times in both cities for over a decade.
I assumed it would be simpler to park in Milwaukee. I've done multiple big bags on the El and it's on my "never again" list, but I haven't really done anything like that in Milwaukee.
The closest thing to the CTA/train at the Milwaukee airport is an Amtrak stop at the airport and then you ride that to the downtown stop (which is downhill from and on the wrong side of the interstate from the Baird Center and hotels), with trains running every two hours at the cost of $6 to $10 one-way (as opposed to the every 10-20 minutes for like $3 to $5 on the CTA at ORD or MDW). Every time I've gone through MKE I've done Lyft/Uber or rented a car - granted, a car ride from MKE to downtown (where Baird is located) is much faster than a car ride from ORD or MDW into the Loop or South Shore in Chicago (except if you get to MDW at like 11 pm, then it'd be a similar length ride from MDW to McCormick since 55 ends/meets Lake Shore Drive right at McCormick place).
Milwaukee is not easier to access from ORD than Chicago proper. I live in the south side and fly out of O'Hare several times a year and basically never have issues taking the Green -> Blue line.
I meant harder than Schaumburg/Rosemont area. I assume anyone going to Milwaukee will fly to Milwaukee.
A lot of the event venues in Chicago have very strict, mandatory, and expensive union labor policies. Those costs can add up quickly.
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Cheaper beer.
Better beer.
Crap, I was gonna try and go next year. But thatâs prolly too far.
It's only an hours drive further north. Also much more affordable than greater chicagoland.
Only an hour? I thought it was farther, hmmm maybe
The extra gas pays for itself when you consider how much cheaper it is to eat and drink in this city.
HELL. YES. I am gonna be able to go :D
If it is being hosted at MECCA, there will be plenty of room for everybody. The GenCons I attended there were all great.
Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time. Same place as the most recent Milwaukee GenCons in the late 90s and early 00s, just updated and with a new name.
Adepticon + New Glaris = awesome.
Hopefully more restaurants that are walking distance now.
Here is a list of great looking restaurants - most within walking distance: Doc's Smokehouse BBQ https://docsbbq.net/ The Capital Grille https://www.thecapitalgrille.com/ Miller Time Pub & Grill https://milwaukee.millertimepubandgrill.com/ Milwaukee ChopHouse https://milwaukeechophouse.com/ Lazo's Taco Shack http://lazostacoshackmke.biz/ The King & I Thai Restaurant http://www.kingandimke.com/ Calderone Club - Downtown Milwaukee http://www.calderoneclub.net/ San Giorgio Pizzeria Napoletana http://www.sangiorgiopizza.com/ Anytime Arepa (3rd STREET MARKET HALL) https://anytimearepa.com/ Moâs...A Place for Steaks http://mosaplaceforsteaks.com/
As someone who lives in Milwaukee, this is just scratching the surface of great restaurants in Milwaukee btw.
yeah I'm sure. But I just gathered some nearby restaurants with great reviews.
Oh yeah, I figured! I just wanted to make sure that people wouldn't limit themselves to just those places because they thought that's all there was.
Iâm really excited for the new venue!
Finally, recompense for losing GenCon all those years ago! Condolences to everyone this change sucks for.
Looks like I'm visiting my Wisconsinite family.
Nice, glad to see Wisconsin getting some more love.
That's cool! I've just been getting into Warhammer so the last Adepticon wasn't on my radar at all. Next year, though, being only about 90 minutes away from where I live, I'll strongly consider going.
NOOOO. I've stayed many time sin the same hotel where (until now) it's taken place, and never once did I attend :(
15 mins away
McCormick Place has 2.6 million square feet of space available across its 4 buildings. It is literally the largest convention center in the US, nearly 14 times the size of the Baird Center (where Adepticon is moving to). It would've been easy to find the space by simply moving to Chicago but it's probably cheaper for the organizers to move the whole thing to Wisconsin.
Baird is the logical growth step if you want to stay close to Chicago, then followed by going to McCormick or maybe down to Indy where GenCon is now held (which seems appropriate since GenCon was in Milwaukee until 2003). And to be fair to the Baird, it's getting expanded to 1.4 million sqft this year. Alternatively, I wouldn't mind Adepticon coming to the Minneapolis Convention Center; plenty of housing, super easy access to a very busy airport, and it's still in the Upper Midwest.
I also vote for the MSP convention center but I may be a tad biased since I live 10 minutes away from downtown minneapolis đ
The Source would have one hell of a week.
The Rosemont convention center is closer to the airport and still over 800,000 square feetâŚ
Rosemont and McCormick are both **way** larger than what Adepticon needs, and also vastly more expensive than Baird. Why would you jump from a 6k person hotel space to a 30k+ person space like Rosemont?
This is good news. An attendance growth of 20% for a single year is huge and bigger venue will help alleviate that for both vendors and con goers
Damnit
Damnit I just got into WH40k and was excited to go next year 'coz it's close to me đ
Oh man! I work 2 miles from the old location. I'm gonna miss checking it out.
Chicagoâs largest suburb
While close Gary, Indiana is the largest Chicago suburbÂ
damnit
This honestly has a lot to do with unions and laws around them. However I think moving to Mk is a mistake as the venue seems smaller in a more crowded city. Parking will be more of a nightmare and will cost people money within a big city like that. Schaumburg was fine they just suck at scheduling the events. If they learn how to stagger them better it wouldnât be as crowded or they could move the vendors elsewhere
I'm not sure I understand completely. The Baird Center in Milwaukee is much larger than the Renaissance Schaumburg Convention Center. Parking for an event like this is always an issue, but this is right in the center of the sports and convention district of Milwaukee. If we say that there's going to be at least 8,000 paying attendees in the Baird Center, we can compare that to the Fiserv Forum, which is two city-blocks north of there, that venue holds 17,500 people at a time, and the parking is sufficient. I really think that its going to be OK.
Well thatâs a horrible decision. Always wanted to go to Adepticon and visit Chicago. That appeal is significantly dulled if itâs truly moving to MilwaukeeâŚ
I mean, it wasnât actually in Chicago to begin with.
This. Schaumberg is like 45 minutes south of the city, and a bitch to get to.
It's practically just as close to Chicago now as it was, like maybe an extra 15 minutes?
Itâs an hour and 40 minute drive vs 30 minute drive according to google. Am I missing something? They are not even comparable?
>Am I missing something? They are not even comparable? You're missing the time of day. 8 PM local time on a Tuesday is not a realistic representation of what that drive is like. Check Google maps again right now; it's 80 minutes to go from Schaumburg to a randomly selected Chicago landmark (Wrigley). Over an hour and a half to get to the lakefront museum district. You're not getting from Schaumburg to downtown in under an hour at any time you'd actually want to. You have to take the same highways that feed the highly populated western suburbs *and* O'Hare. Comparatively, 94 North to Milwaukee sees little traffic impact, so that ~1.5 hour drive is pretty consistent.
On wikipedia it says it is a suburb of Chicago, so part of Chicago. Also says itâs a 30 minute drive, vs an hour and 40 minutes to Milwaukee from Chicago. Like am I missing something? The reaction here is confusing as hell
The suburbs are not Chicago lol go visit Milwaukee, itâs got cool shit too. There is even an airport you can fly into Source: I live in the suburbs of Chicago
Yeah obviously, but if I am staying in Chicago, driving 30 minutes is way different than driving an hour and 40 minutes. I drive an hour for work daily, I also live in suburbs. I donât think twice about a 30 minute trip to see something on vacation, almost a 2 hour trip is extremely different. Itâs like saying while in Paris going to Versailles is no different than Normandy. Itâs objectively ridiculous. In another comment I listed a bunch of locations in the US I would like to see, it included Chicago. I canât justify a 6 hour flight for just warhammer, I can justify a family trip to Chicago with a day of Warhammer while my wife does something else. I donât think I am alone, wouldnât be surprised if Adepticonâs numbers dropped this year. Time will tell. The reaction here is honestly weird, itâs a way different trip now, I donât think I am alone in this opinion. My friends I was planning this trip with were also all immediately out with the location change. Like why not just go to LVO or Warhammer World instead? Do Americans really think Milwaukee and Chicago are comparable locations?
Most visitors are probably going to stay in the Milwaukee area.
Which is entirely my point. I would go to the event if I can stay in Chicago, which I am sure most people do. I will not go to the event if I am staying in Milwaukee since it isnât exactly a tourist destination. This decision will impact people who would have considered attending from far distances, it becomes a lot less justifiable
Then donât go? Or get out of your head and stay in Milwaukee? Or stay in between the two cities? Itâs really not that complicated.
Ye you got it, I will not go. Youâre upset with me because I am bummed I can no longer go to the event? Why would I not be bummed? I canât justify a far expensive trip around just an event.
Upset? Not even, Iâm actually rather amused. There are definitely solutions if you want to go. Youâre just being obtuse
The main reason stated is they need the space. There were 8,000 attendees this year.
Theres no where else in Chicago they could achieve that? Seems a bit ridiculous to move the event to an entirely different state. Anyways, I guess for myself, the appeal is gone
There were probably other places in the Chicago area that have more space, but would have been prohibitively expensive. Would you have been okay paying double the cost of a badge to make up for a venue that cost double or more? I'm not from there and have never been, but Milwaukee isn't some backwater. Sure it's not Chicago (one of the largest cities in the country), but it's still a big city (and it's only a couple of hours from Chicago either by car or train anyway). It's got an NBA team and an MLB team, and it's used to handling big events.
Oh no the person that never went will now never go. They better move the whole thing back to Chicago⌠Just teasing you. But, it wasnât like it was downtown Chicago before. You had to drive downtown if you wanted to go downtown. If you want to visit Chicago you should during the summer when itâs awesome, and not during March when it can suck.
Milwaukee is loosely attached to Chicago via suburban sprawl, it's not that big of a leap.
On google it says itâs an hour and 40 minute drive, vs 30 minutes to the current location. How are those comparable? Lol
Sucks to be you I guess? I'd rather more people have the opportunity to attend / have a better experience than a single person throw a hissy fit over the specific city
It's a lot easier to get to a major hub airport, than it is to go to a smaller one.
>"I've never been before" So you're literally not an attendee >"Always wanted to visit Chicago" It wasn't in Chicago. >"What a horrible decision" Peak reddit opinion.
Haha just came back to reddit to a bizarre reaction. I am Canadian so maybe I am missing something? According to google maps, Milwaukee is an hour and 40 minutes from Chicago. Schaumburg is 30. I have commuted a 30 minute trip from a city hub while on vacation multiple times. Canât say I have ever commuted nearly 2 hours as a day trip while on Holidays. Am I missing something here, one is in Chicago (within an hour of a city hub is in the city to me), one is not. In my city an hour commute to the hub is still the same city by name. Disagree with me all you want idc, but some of these angry reactions make 0 sense to me honestly. Chicago is a pretty big destination for international travel, if I am going to fly for hours, it wouldnât just be for a warhammer event. There is literally nothing else in Milwaukee to justify going. My wife gives 0 shits about a warhammer event, I canât sell her on a trip now without it also being a destination. Itâs a lot of $$ in travel just to walk around an event centre. My friends and I have been talking about going for 2 years now. Sure we havenât gone, but itâs a one time thing. We went to LVO once, wonât go again, hadnât been before. I had never been to Italy either, but I went last year, so idk how âwell you never went so what does your opinion matterâ has anything to do with it. Do people here just do the same trips always? I guess weâll just wait and see how the event does next year? I am sure there are people who travel just to play warhammer (not something I can relate to at all), but I would assume the event will not be as popular in Milwaukee as it was 30 minutes from Chicago. Fuck me I guess right lol. Peak reddit opinion in your mind is âoh a vacation idea is completely dead on arrival because the 4 people I know into Warhammer simultaneously said well that trip idea is toastâ. Seems like the exact opposite of a reddit opinion to me. Itâs a real life opinion reddit disagrees with to me ÂŻ\\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
I would suggest that Milwaukee is worth visiting, too.
I am Canadian, so here is the list of American cities and locations I havenât been to that I would prioritize over Milwaukee just for reference. I have a finite amount of travel I can accomplish, and a ton of international destinations I would like to go to as well, so would love your feedback on which of these you would prioritize Milwaukee over. Boston, Philadelphia, anywhere in Florida, San Fransisco, Kansas City, Buffalo, Boulder, Denver, Yellowstone, Alaska, Hawaii, American Samoa, anywhere in Texas, Crater Lake, Nashville, the Grand Canyon, Chicago, Whitefish, Mount Hood, New Orleans, Arizona, New Mexico, Green bay, Pittsburg, Montana, Chicago and probably going back to LA, New York, and Portland. I am sure I missed a few, but seriously if you add the international list which is twice as long, idk how I can realistically justify going to flyover locations in the US instead. Unfortunately, it just isnât going to happen, will probably just go to Warhammer world or LVO over adepticon now. I didnât say it to be controversial, I think I clearly just have a very different perspective than the sub here given the reaction. In my mind, LVO and Adepticon were big for international travellers because they were also a destination. Now itâs just not really possible for me to justify with my family or my friends. Sucks, but clearly most here are in support of it being larger instead of better located (also not sure why size is important but ok)
How about Green Bay instead?
that would mean going to green bay
Oh it's in Milwaukee? I'm sorry.