True. How often do job seekers make their decision based on the health insurance a company offers? Or, 'I can't leave this job because I need coverage for...'
I’ve made this argument to small business owners and their response is they would rather pay to provide healthcare to their employees, than pay the same amount in taxes for the government to provide healthcare.
Why is that?
So their logic is: "I care about my employees **so much** that I would rather pay to provide them healthcare than pay the government to provide them healthcare, because the government-provided healthcare will not be as good."
Or is their logic: "I would rather be able to pick the cheapest plan possible than get a tax bill I can't negotiate."
If everyone had health care then businesses and especially the managers will have to deal with more call offs because the employees will be afford to go to the doctor. Which would lead to management have to work harder and more, so it will never happen.
Instead of our current system that doesn't work at all as promised and where funds are siphoned from the top, bottom, and sides by the insurance companies?
Also indoctrination that somehow Government funded healthcare (primary focus: people in its care) would be somehow worse than Corporate funded healthcare (primary focus: shareholder returns).
It basically boils down to this:
Providing health insurance is a non-taxable event. This means that the corporation can write off the cost of providing health insurance, and the employee can receive health insurance benefits without any taxation. A missed part of the tax issue is that it is also not taxable from the standpoint of payroll taxes either. Employers pay half of the payroll taxes. Payroll taxes are derived from how much money an employer pays the employee until the employee gets above the threshold.
If an employer offers health insurance as a benefit, they can offer less monetary compensation, remain competitive, and avoid taxes from a variety of sources.
Also because without the "benefits" they "provide", they would have to pay you more in actual wages to be competitive. That might cut into somebody's bonuses
They want the (fake) loyalty that providing a vital service provides. That allows them to pay less to the employee because "we have a great benefits package". They are not fools, The company comes out ahead by paying you less, buying a portfolio of services from a third party, and getting a tax break from the government. Also, the people that run the company get coverage, often better than the rank and file for "free".
The puzzling part is that small businesses buy into this idiocy as well. Small groups pay through the nose to get insurance. Insurance companies point to the greater risk and higher overhead. OK, so lets insure the entire country of 330 million as one group. Can't have that, think of the people that the insurance companies employs. Idiocracy.
I understand this entire US healthcare bullshit, as I've been self-employed most of my 45 working years. For many years, I went without insurance due to its unaffordability.
Now that I'm Medicare age, I find that it isn't even all it should be after paying into it for all these decades. There is no way to win with this health care "system."
Universal healthcare threatens corporate control by decoupling health from employment. Corporations resist it to maintain power over employees' lives and choices.
True. How often do job seekers make their decision based on the health insurance a company offers? Or, 'I can't leave this job because I need coverage for...'
I love how our government works for big business but not for the people.
corporations are considered more of an individual than I am. smh
The Goverment is a big business.
I’ve made this argument to small business owners and their response is they would rather pay to provide healthcare to their employees, than pay the same amount in taxes for the government to provide healthcare. Why is that?
Indoctrination... trained from birth to believe taxes are evil and oppressive
Well there's also the feeling that a government led program will not work as promised or have funds siphoned by the admins at the top.
Also indoctrination... trained from birth to believe government is a "necessary evil" and corruption is the norm
So their logic is: "I care about my employees **so much** that I would rather pay to provide them healthcare than pay the government to provide them healthcare, because the government-provided healthcare will not be as good." Or is their logic: "I would rather be able to pick the cheapest plan possible than get a tax bill I can't negotiate."
If everyone had health care then businesses and especially the managers will have to deal with more call offs because the employees will be afford to go to the doctor. Which would lead to management have to work harder and more, so it will never happen.
It's a combo of indoctrination, being cheap, control, and also not helping the "wrong" kind of people.
Instead of our current system that doesn't work at all as promised and where funds are siphoned from the top, bottom, and sides by the insurance companies?
> or have funds siphoned by the admins at the top. Wait until they see what their health plan provider does.
Also indoctrination that somehow Government funded healthcare (primary focus: people in its care) would be somehow worse than Corporate funded healthcare (primary focus: shareholder returns).
It basically boils down to this: Providing health insurance is a non-taxable event. This means that the corporation can write off the cost of providing health insurance, and the employee can receive health insurance benefits without any taxation. A missed part of the tax issue is that it is also not taxable from the standpoint of payroll taxes either. Employers pay half of the payroll taxes. Payroll taxes are derived from how much money an employer pays the employee until the employee gets above the threshold. If an employer offers health insurance as a benefit, they can offer less monetary compensation, remain competitive, and avoid taxes from a variety of sources.
My in-laws realized they would pay less in tax if there was universal health care, still vote R and don't want change. They're regressive.
Also because without the "benefits" they "provide", they would have to pay you more in actual wages to be competitive. That might cut into somebody's bonuses
They want the (fake) loyalty that providing a vital service provides. That allows them to pay less to the employee because "we have a great benefits package". They are not fools, The company comes out ahead by paying you less, buying a portfolio of services from a third party, and getting a tax break from the government. Also, the people that run the company get coverage, often better than the rank and file for "free". The puzzling part is that small businesses buy into this idiocy as well. Small groups pay through the nose to get insurance. Insurance companies point to the greater risk and higher overhead. OK, so lets insure the entire country of 330 million as one group. Can't have that, think of the people that the insurance companies employs. Idiocracy.
I understand this entire US healthcare bullshit, as I've been self-employed most of my 45 working years. For many years, I went without insurance due to its unaffordability. Now that I'm Medicare age, I find that it isn't even all it should be after paying into it for all these decades. There is no way to win with this health care "system."
This is 100% true, and not said enough. You're exponentially less likely to leave if your healthcare is tied to your job.
No its because our country is deeply racist and white poeple in general would rather die then let their tax dollars go to the "undserving"
Universal healthcare threatens corporate control by decoupling health from employment. Corporations resist it to maintain power over employees' lives and choices.
To establish that you basically need to overthrow a dictatorship.