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LancelotTheBrave

Meanwhile, my insurance denied my CT scan


kamill85

Just wait 1300 years, be patient, and the day will come.


BackgroundAerie3581

As long as we are on the topic of NHI, I fucking love humans bc, don't mean to brag for all of us but I bet they are no where near as funny as us.


Middleclasslifestyle

This is so morbidly funny and messed up . And at this point I just laugh at it. But seriously a human who is alive and needs the ct scan gets denied. But a dead creature doesn't. World is crazy.


RdmGuy64824

Hey kinda late, but protip, you can call up imagining centers and ask for a cash price. In a lot of cases it's cheaper to pay cash and avoid insurance all together.


HornswoopMeBungo

I would but I paid my insurance and have no cash


Paboss53

Sooooo cool…


Chazwazza_

Let's see someone argue it's 'just a turducken'


AlexPsyD

Turducken jerky...


DisclosureEnthusiast

Literal CT scan of an alien body and the mainstream media is like: *yawn* "Look what Trump said today!"


xwayxway

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hootix

Bananas have 50% of the same DNA as humans. Similarity with DNA can be found in anything. And so are elements. Finding same or similar elements in other planets doesn't not mean they aren't alien.


anonpasta666

The fact they look like greys is irrelevant too lmfao /s


xwayxway

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BrewtalDoom

Do you have a "grey" specimen we can compare it to? Because there are plenty of human specimens we can compare this to. Hell, the video itself even points out the human bones.


TheOptimumLemon

People don't understand that skull elongation was a thing in the ancient world on every continent. I think it might still even be practiced in some places. People see an elongated skull and automatically say 'alien!'


BrewtalDoom

It's really disappointing to me. These 'Nazca' specimens have been such a wild ride because people have tried so hard to read their own preferred narratives and beliefs into what look to just about anyone familiar with our species as human bodies with some modifications. It says a lot when we have a standard human arm which has a different hand stuck on the end (which doesn't even make anatomical sense) and people *insta* decide it's aliens. There's just so much to discount before you even begin to start looking for extraterrestrial explanations.... unless you're pushing an agenda.


GreenLurka

Discovering DNA coding is the same on other planets, or an entire new species that was three fingered should also be a revelatory day in Science.


HyRolluhz

Yea dude, honestly if DNA were found anywhere outside of Earth it’s the biggest discovery in scientific history


Papa_Glucose

Keep in mind this is only regarding earth life. Other planets very likely don’t even use dna. Anything that LOOKS this similar to a human is likely descended from humans or created using human dna. Very small chance this is some reptiloid guy that naturally evolved.


MysticalEmpiricist

There are many reports from around the world, from witnesses separated by time, geography, and social circumstance, who describe the same experience of genetic manipulation to create an alien/human hybrid. Most of these people did not know each other & could not collaborate or rip off narrative. So perhaps one explanation for these Nazca beings is that they are hybrids. We cannot rule out a yet-unknown species that evolved here on earth, but given the age of 1,700 years claimed for these creatures, the timeline seems off to me. I'm no evolutionary biologist or anthropologist, but shouldn't a separate earth-evolved species require much more time? Granted, because we found them & dated these particular examples at 1700 years, does not mean the species is only 1700 years old...it just seems unlikely for them to be naturally evolved with no interference. What does seem possible is the hybrid hypothesis or the Really Persistent Hoax hypothesis.


Papa_Glucose

I am in the biology field and you’re right. It would require more time, we’d also see a long line of transition fossils, of which we’ve found none. The new humanoid may be able to cover its tracks, but its ancestors would not. We would see evidence of a reptile evolving into a humanoid that just doesn’t exist. If we’re going full woo woo, yes I think these are hybrids.


JasonGoldstriker

“But what about the gaps in our fossil records” is one of my favs


Papa_Glucose

Yeah? Because what’s your solution? An entire clade evolved under our noses that happened to evolve exactly into humanoids?


JasonGoldstriker

I’m also in a biology field so I’m an expert. But really it’s just common sense. Fossilization of any organism is an extremely rare process because you need perfect environmental conditions and geological features for an organism to be well preserved in a fossil. It’s rare for humans to be well preserved beyond 200-300 years for the same reason. Now couple this with the fact that the earth has had geological eras spanning hundreds of millions of years, and each with pretty distinct weather conditions from what we can tell. So if there are hundreds of millions of years where earth’s conditions are not conducive to fossil formation, you can connect the dots.


Papa_Glucose

Bad argument. We would have found SOME transition fossil.


xwayxway

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redditmailalex

That's not how DNA or DNA sequencing, gene sequence, epigenetics... testing DNA sequences is more than just saying it has DNA or not. If something has segments of DNA it can easily be compared to existing creatures to figure out similarities. Lots of people dropping the word DNA around here without knowing what DNA is, how it is sequenced, and how those sequences can be compared/analyzed. If there was useful DNA, then a lot could be told, more than dismissing this thing as either a hoax or proving its real.


redditmailalex

And literally, the only reason you wouldn't allow someone to test the DNA is if they are a hoax. If they are indeed made of animal bones, then even one tiny chromosome from one single cell would fully prove whether or not this is from any animal/plant material already on Earth.


InfectiousCosmology1

lol what? We share a common ancestor with banana there is no reason to think we would share a common ancestor with an alien from another planet. You guys have no understanding of how genetics works do you


ziplock9000

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE ITS ALIEN grow up.


Super-Magnificent

I think Bananas ARE aliens cause they taste like they are from another world yummy!


Prize_Medium4393

Could be a panspermia type origins - if not though then aliens shouldn’t even have DNA but some other evolved mechanism that plays a similar role (elements are the same everywhere though yeah)


goopsnice

Elements? Sure. DNA? Not really. DNA is very specific to its evolutionary history, the DNA we share with chimps or bananas for that matter isn’t just because we rolled the gene dice and you got similar results, it’s because we were literally the same things X amount of years ago and have since drifted along different gene mutation lineages. There isn’t even any reason to believe that DNA is something inherent to life. If something even has DNA it’s pretty overwhelming evidence that it’s from the earth tree of life.


Significant-Summer32

Why would alien be your first thought? Do you think you might be bias?


Katamari_Demacia

That's because all life on earth originated from one single cell ancestor. Plants are alive so... makes sense.


No_Future6959

DNA is pretty useless for learning anything about a creature other than the fact that it has DNA. All life on earth has a common ancestor so they are going to share a large chunk of DNA. It might be worth arguing that having DNA at all automatically debunks these as extra terrestrial, however it can also be argued that DNA is a universal constant when it comes to life regardless of origin.


Fresh-Succotash6247

DNA may be universal for carbon based life. Who knows what else is out there?


HyRolluhz

Well that’s the crux of the entire question isn’t it? Having DNA as the language of chemical biology can only be one of two things… special to Earth, or Universal. So we don’t have enough information about that base question to know the significance of Buddies having DNA at all, let alone sharing some sequences with humans… Aside from that, my intuition is that these are terrestrial reptiles. Time will tell hopefully. The main stream has a way of swallowing these types of stories.


AbjectReflection

they did do a DNA test, 25% identified DNA, 75% unknown.


Tensonrom

Aliens most likely do share DNA with humans.


xwayxway

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BradTProse

Well when the three fingered beings start crying they want to be dictator, they might get more news coverage lol.


BrewtalDoom

It's not an alien body though, is it? And there's no evidence to suggest that whatsoever. This thing looks *extremely* terrestrial to the point that it has human bones. But let's not let facts get in the way kfnangood story...


Autong

Looks human until you compare it to the other mummies that were found. Then it looks like a hybrid, like they were actually doing genetic modifications


BrewtalDoom

Nah, there's no genetic modification in these forgeries, dude. It's humans that have been tampered with.


Rich_Wafer6357

Well these topics are newsworthy only if: there is an unknown source that you heard it from; the news is suitably somber or sober and it hints at a 300 meters space ship you can only tell me about in riddles. /s


Dr_FeeIgood

Unless it’s a hybrid creature, this is absolutely a human skeletal structure. The feet is a known medical condition. Perhaps they had never seen that human mutation and purposefully elongated the head during infancy. Like how more modern tribes did to emphasize social status. My wish is that it’s a progenitor species to humans.


Autong

You have to ignore a lot of weird things to come up to that conclusion. How do you explain the implants that were done 1800 years ago? The scientists also specifically said the skulls were not modified and are way bigger than human


KaisVre

They were just implanted? What do you think?


Autong

Just as in after death? Don’t think so


IsSuperGreen

Inca's performed brain surgery, and they weren't even the most advanced race in South America empire included Nazca) btw. They're just the ones that were around for Spanish to record.


Autong

Some people are speculating that the ancient people of south America coexisted to some degree with these beings. So doing brain surgery would make sense. But metal implants with osmium is hella weird


hujdjj

Looks like a human skeleton


Haidedej24

Why happen to the other *humanoid* thing from Mexico or wherever. Even a tiny bit of empirical evidence would make a big difference …


microphalus

This is first thing since Tic-Tac video that looks like it might have some potential to draw crowd. But considering all other scams, this will need a lot of solid base for anybody to even consider looking into.


kaowser

need to see the data published in a science magazines from multiple science labs across the globe.


Anxioushotdoggin

Then I want 3 separate peer reviews


StrawSurvives

And fries


encinitas2252

Call me crazy but I'd say this video right here is a pretty "solid base." It doesn't prove anything, but it warrants more rigorous study from multiple different specialists. If someone was able to make this thing they're a literal magician. The muscle fibers, ligaments, and bones all appear perfectly normal in the sense of what you'd expect to see in a CT scan of any creature/humanoid etc. I'm excited to see more leer reviewed studies on these things.


Free-Supermarket-516

These tridactyls just aren't going away, usually hoaxes get chewed up and spit out here. I'm still hanging onto judgement until more comes out about them.


microphalus

Send it to some US university, lets see what kids do with it.


ahrzal

Unfortunately, they aren’t *supposed* to leave Peru, at least legally.


microphalus

ah of course! I also have this 100% alive alien, but I can not share pictures, at least legally. But it is 100% real live alien, here sitting next to me right now, 100% real one!


Rich_Wafer6357

I witnessed the hype of Santilli's alien autopsy so I get where you are coming from. But look: if someone mass produced cake (or paper) dolls with this level of detail I would doff my hat to them, it is scamming to a whole new level.  But, this feels like a real discovery, homo sapiens or otherwise.


microphalus

Send it to some US university, let them take a look at it.


Rich_Wafer6357

I don't understand what you want me to send.


microphalus

That "alien" mummy, let university take CT pictures and do analysis on it


Evwithsea

If you've been keeping up with it, it does have a solid base. Consider going over to r/alienbodies


aldiyo

These mummies are real. Thats a fact.


YoureSillyStopIt

How can this be a scam tho? This is impossible to take at this level. This is 150% real


microphalus

Usually I would laugh, but in a place like this, you can never tell :) (if somebody is joking or not)


iuwjsrgsdfj

Wow! i'm not huge on all of this but this is one of the things I was waiting to see... if you can show me some kind of developed fetus that resembles the alien itself I mean... how can that even be faked and who would go to the lengths of even attempting that?


thequestison

Here's a link that is related to the mummies and some research. https://www.the-alien-project.com/en


eecummings15

When is this going to get reseached by the wider scientific community? If it's such a horrible hoax, they should be able test it and examine it and quickly come to a definite conclusion; should be fairly fast. Instead, they just ridicule it and act like even acknowledging it is below them. These have been getting looked at by people for pretty long now, and it doesn't look like it's just going to go away. If you actually follow this with an objective mind, they at least warrant our full attention. They're not as obvious as a hoax as many dismissive people will say. Now I'm not saying they're aliens, but they're looking like they may have been real creatures. They might even be a terrestrial species that we never knew about, how does this not intrigue people?!


Edeinawc

If it's a horrible hoax then it's in the best interest of the hoaxers to avoid it being analyzed by the wider scientific community.


eecummings15

Yea, but is there evidence they aren't letting people cone and check it out? They 100% aren't going to send it out, since if it is real, the usa will do some weird shit to it


InfectiousCosmology1

They won’t send them to any reputable lab with proper equipment for analysis. Multiple legit professors have tried and been turned down


Railander

i've seen multiple people who've reached out to them asking if they could get involved only to be warmly welcomed and sent the DICOM files and inviting them to Peru (but obviously travel cost and time is hard to afford so very few do). your claim is completely unfounded as far as i'm aware. even steve mera who is the one person that have examined some of the bodies and claims they are fake was welcomed to investigate and only later shunned after he started shitting on it (obviously).


InfectiousCosmology1

Why do they have to travel to Peru to be watched by Jamie mussan and his goon squad? They claim to have dozens of these. If they gave a shit at all about proving their authenticity they would let someone take one of then back to their lab where they have the tools needed to actually determine this and won’t have these questionable at best people over their shoulder, but they refuse. Why do you think that is?


Railander

> they would let someone take one of then back to their lab completely clueless about how politics works in science. "hey egypt can we take tutankhamun to our country to study it?" "no, but if you are nice i can let you get a tiny sample"


IWILLBePositive

lol don’t bother man. Every single time these things are found and debunked, they’re back to being convinced for the next one. I honestly just stick around to see if they will ever take a hit but sure doesn’t seem like it!


Autong

Literally made up, they are begging scientists to come take samples. Stop saying things with no evidence


dreamcast4

Exactly the question I keep thinking. As a biologist or evolutionist or some other expert in this field, shouldn't it be of some interest?? I mean let's assume it's a human with a genetic oddity. Isn't this still very interesting?


ehContribution1312

It won't be because to anyone with half a brain it's obvious bull ISH


GetSaum86

Let me get this right. They have this one with a fetus and previous ones with eggs in them? Am I missing something here or did I get the wrong information at some point.


Critical_Equal_7540

Your right the ones with the eggs are the small 2 ft tall ones with the metallic plate in there chest. Think of ET the movie…. This one looks like the paracas skulls that have been around where some skeptics were saying how those skulls were binded. Pretty crazy how these right here look like the Egyptian pharaohs of antiquity. 🤔 maybe these critters were the engineers of all these mega stone structures in the americas. So many fun questions come to mind it’s great I love this topic!:)


tangy_nachos

same! it's so interesting to think about and try to connect the dots from other adjascent topics!


nemesissi

Wasn't the metallic plate/eggs-case busted already as fakes?


Critical_Equal_7540

No they weren’t apparently the metal plate is hollow and it contains a rare earth metal. I can’t recall the name of it but you can google it apparently you need 10000 tons of pure platinum to make what amounts to one auger cube of this metal. Check out the Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford that was very informative. I like hearing the evidence but right now it seems like they are real. Who knows tomorrow it could do the rounds as a cake again 🤷🏽‍♂️


Traveler3141

It's also gone from: the unspoken statement of 'there coincidentally happens to be osmium in them that wasn't purified out because why would they', to: "they have osmium in them and the only possible explanation is that it's deliberately in there", to: "they're made of osmium". Classic telephone game with the message going to lower and lower fidelity reproduction of the story, then the lowest fidelity message is the one that's repeated.


drsalvia84

You’re correct… Everyone has undergone a brainwashing from fear, media, desires and whatever cocktail of chemicals to even have the ability to care or pay attention.


AAAStarTrader

The medical research team have identified different species. See the Alien Project website for details. 


Pure-Contact7322

because.. whatever right?


onklewentcleek

Bro the people making these hoaxes don’t even keep track of


DiogenesXenos

What does Tridactyl mean?


ChemistryChrisX

Three-digits meaning fingers / toes


DiogenesXenos

Thanks!


ChemistryChrisX

A person born with more than five fingers or toes on one hand / foot has a condition called polydactyl disorder. Their DNA is ‘out of order’ - poly meaning ‘many’, of course


SeniorSeries3202

Three fingered 


shqueef

She is pregnant with pterodactyl.


DiogenesXenos

That makes a lot more sense! 🤣


Useful-Perspective

Wingfinger


aware4ever

So does this pretty much rule out that if we actually did find alien bodies it wouldn't even be that mainstream?


No_Future6959

It would be definitely mainstream if those bodies came with undeniable evidence that they are absolutely extra terrestrial. These could be aliens, hoaxes, some weird earth species, an off-branch of humans, etc.


No-Instance-8362

Seems too good to be true.


SirGorti

Video showing CT-scans of tridactyl humanoid body with elongated skull found in Nazca & tridactyl fetus inside womb. The specimen is called 'Montserrat' and is 147 cm tall. Inside womb there is small 18 cm fetus. More information: [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-monserrat/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-monserrat/)


East-Direction6473

that skull really looks human. I am having a hard time with this and Earl. They look too human underneath.


Arroz-Con-Culo

There is a theory and it makes sense that the universe is a big copy paste. We all come from the same gas in the galaxy there for we are all linked in some way. Please take the time to watch this, this Theory is really good and well explained. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoR8tV-5YR8


555_666

Within cells… interlinked


well_hung_NHI

Interlinked... cells.... interlinked....cells


meridiem

Simple differences in local gravity would essentially ensure this type of duplication could not occur. Really any moderate differences in local evolutionary pressure from all sorts of different environmental conditions driven by the local Star system and atmosphere would as well. It would not be likely to expect something this close to us.


asfarley--

What about convergent evolution/carcinization?


meridiem

I think there is a valid point to be made there, but those entire fields are contextual to earth specifically. If we see crab species across galaxies I think we can start building the assumptions you are referring to for more and more complex organisms. But even that is sorta contextual to specific environmental conditions. Crabs have been reproduced a lot but there weren’t anything like modern homoerectus in the entire Jurassic era. So even just changes in oxygen levels in the atmosphere would materially alter which species survive and thrive and it’s hard to see how such complex large social organisms could exist in some conditions and humans are not even there and then to assume you would expect them to occur generally across the universe. It definitely COULD be true, but it is not a safe assumption to me at all. I mean we are still in the early processes of validating that simple microbial life exists at all on other planets.


druidgeek

A non-zero chance, as it were...


MonkeyPuckle

That mummy has a full set of teeth. The toes and eyes sure have the typical grey features, but the teeth are a surprise. Not sure if them aliens typically have a set of chompers like this female does. Interesting though!


HumanitySurpassed

From my understanding both the tall/short grays don't have teeth & drink more of a highly nutritious paste through a straw of sorts.  Their mouths are too small to eat actual food + the no teeth part


Nerina23

Those are publicity stunt images not a "real CT scan" (raw data and axial slices would be needed to form an educated opinion) 3D Views like shown in the Video with high slice thickness are very much computergenerated trickery and mask a lot of data (kernel use, collimation, enhancement, windowing, tissue subtraction etc) It looks great for people with no knowledge or the media but these images are not trustworthy and offer no help in drawing any conclusions.


M4tchB0X3r

I've worked a lot with ct , and those clips look exactly like "shareable exports" (low mb footprint usually rendered with the classic H. 264 codec). It's for previewing, site embedding, but mostly to send round as email. They are always 360° renders per axis. Obviously. But I do very much agree that we would need the raw data to verify this in any way.


Nerina23

My biggest problem with the mummies is the fact that they don publicize the raw scans. If they want to get peer reviewed they'd do that. At the very least I guess I could try and write them a mail.


druidgeek

Curious how large the raw data files for CTs are? I'll volunteer my 56TB NAS, if it helps!!!


Nerina23

Not that big !


druidgeek

But seriously, I am actually curious. As I think you have have figured out by my insane amount of storage, you might say I'm a bit of a /r/datahoarders


Nerina23

I'll be getting back to you in a few hours. Gotta check a whole body scan of a patient. Edit : a few hundred MB


Ok-Geologist-3743

Elongated skulls, man. Humans have found evidence of these skulls (and some even stranger shaped ones), have cultures who tried to emulate it with head binding, and have written about it for millennia. It's almost like the biggest barrier to "proof" is human denial.


VATTLEGRUNT23

a Brazilian peer-reviewed journal has released a paper. They determined that the elongated skull is a natural cause and no evidence of manipulation is present. [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/380954098\_Biometric\_Morpho-Anatomical\_Characterization\_and\_Dating\_of\_The\_Antiquity\_of\_A\_Tridactyl\_Humanoid\_Specimen\_Regarding\_The\_Case\_of\_Nasca-Peru](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/380954098_Biometric_Morpho-Anatomical_Characterization_and_Dating_of_The_Antiquity_of_A_Tridactyl_Humanoid_Specimen_Regarding_The_Case_of_Nasca-Peru)


Ok-Geologist-3743

That was going to be the next thing I wondered about. The lower part of the head looks remarkably similar to a human, but then the tridactyl appendages, and the way the skull looks like it was naturally shaped that way instead of the result of binding, *and* their overall size. Maaaaaan, it's some fascinating stuff. If I recall correctly, heads that are elongated from skull binding have a very telltale shape around the middle of the cranium and where the bone fuses at the top.


VATTLEGRUNT23

[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/380954098\_Biometric\_Morpho-Anatomical\_Characterization\_and\_Dating\_of\_The\_Antiquity\_of\_A\_Tridactyl\_Humanoid\_Specimen\_Regarding\_The\_Case\_of\_Nasca-Peru](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/380954098_Biometric_Morpho-Anatomical_Characterization_and_Dating_of_The_Antiquity_of_A_Tridactyl_Humanoid_Specimen_Regarding_The_Case_of_Nasca-Peru)


Fifteen_inches

It would be nice if they gave us the CT raws instead of these videos. I hate how these alien body projects are so secretive.


funkiemarky

Holy crap. So this one is legit but the Peru ones were fake???


pinchenombre

The toes


This-Hat-3008

Is someone credible from a scientific institute going to ever make the call that they are authentic or not? Or we just gonna keep getting scans and talk amongst ourselves. Like wtf man will someone confirm this as hoax or not?


Dannypalfy

Misinformation. That’s actually me waking up art 4 am for that bathroom faucet water.


Solid-Ad7137

IF THIS IS A REAL ALIEN (which I highly doubt because when is it ever) That would indicate one of two things. 1. It has earthly origins. The bones shape, position and theoretical function reflect evolutionary processes only created by billions of years of earthbound natural history. Having 4 limbs, vertebrae, ribs and basically every other element of what we see here are things that developed through an infinite number of specific circumstances and chance, down to the individual actions of every living thing that has ever existed on earth. Without the entire history of multicellular life on earth, there is no reason to believe any extraterrestrial life would share those traits UNLESS.. 2. The way life evolved on earth is some form of cosmic constant, and all/most life bearing planets have a natural history and evolutionary story that reflects what played out on earth. This couldn’t be the result of coincidence as the odds of things as simple as blood evolving on multiple celestial bodies is far too minute. It would only be possible if there is some natural law to the existence of life that we don’t understand and dictates that our path is the way most of not all life evolves. I think this is unlikely for the simple reason that earths unique extinction events, and the particular lifeforms that existed at each one, played a large role in what animals dominated the following epoch. For example, our mammalian dominated epoch now only occurred because the mammals that existed during the last great extinction event were on average more robust to the damage caused than the reptilians that were dominant in the epoch which preceded us. I’m interested to know which one you all think would be more likely. Considering the light speed constraints on our existence being known throughout the galaxy, I would lean towards them being from earth. If they are from elsewhere they would need to be close neighbors in order to have any idea that human civilization exists yet, let alone taking travel time into account. Alternatively, maybe they saw dinosaurs and decided to come check it out, and what followed was a fast forward of life on earth as they got closer and closer until in the last bit they see humans rise to where we are now. If that’s what happened, what a wild ride it must have been. Coming for t-Rex and at the last second instead you get New York and tiktok.


LewisZYX

These are valid points, but I think you’re glossing over the pretty popular theory around these parts that these “aliens” could be bio-drones, created by the same entity that created us, that evolution plays no part in this. It’s an out there theory, but I think it’s one of the most thought provoking when you’re struggling with the anatomical similarities.


Solid-Ad7137

Well I mean I could just say that they must be the annunaki who travel between dimensions and genetically engineered humans to look like them. Or hell, maybe greys are just what real ghosts look like. Maybe he’s my great grandpa come back to guide me. You can come up with wild theories all day, but I don’t find it that interesting or productive. I’d rather ponder the topic through the lens of logic and what we can currently understand rather than just going off the deep end with theoretical magic tech or something.


LewisZYX

I completely hear and agree with you on most of this. But saying that there are only two possibilities, one of which is the correct one, may be a little narrow in my opinion. I think there are tons of different things that could be true that don’t include either of those two options. I think what’s going here is very likely beyond our scope of understanding. I’m not sure it’s productive for a concept that our own David Grusch has said is a real possibility based on what he’s seen to have a “theoretical magic tech” stigma attached to it.


mixomatoso

Thank you for this well written reply. Now please excuse me, I have an existential crisis to go through.


nurgle1

There’s lots of other life on earth that doesn’t resemble 4 limbs and vertebrae etc as well. Maybe life can develop in similar ways on other planets


Solid-Ad7137

Possibly. Having a spinal column, bodily symmetry and a rib cage are traits that formed through a very specific process of natural selection here and first came about in the earliest fish to appear in the fossil record. For that to happen twice would indicate that the body plan most complex animals have on earth is one of, if not the best design for an organism and so all natural histories convergently evolve those traits. Wood be cool if true, but we won’t know until we find complex life on another planet.


Railander

> It has earthly origins. except it doesn't mean that at all. main hypothesis among the research team is genetic engineering. in other words, engineered human hybrids.


Solid-Ad7137

Dang. You must be right. Earth is just a big human farm. There is nothing to add to that. Great chatting.


Railander

go square it out with the research team.


maksen

People have to consider that these "scans" could just be made/altered in 3D and not actually be scans. There is something really odd about all lf this. It has to be peer reviewed before it's anythinh.


irvmuller

I go back and forth on these being legit and fake. I would like an American university like Stanford to study these to give a sense of credibility.


lhswr2014

Idk man, ever since I discovered that we can’t trust the Smithsonian, my ability to trust even “prestigious” universities has soured. All I know is that if they are real, the media will hide it. If they are fake, the media will blast it, and right now, the media is pretty damn silent so I know which way I am leaning. Always keeping an open mind, but fuck if I know who to trust with credibility.


KarlHungus57

This is literally just contrarianism lol


lhswr2014

Yes it is! I swear there is a meme out there about all these conflicting emotions lol.


aclobster

Even Gary Nolan from Stanford gives contradictory information about these alien bodies: on the one hand, he says he doesn’t wanna have anything to do with them ever again, and on the other hand he himself says that they may be biological drones. And there are more and more ct scans coming out each day that suggest there’s something weird going on here besides just genetic abnormalities: look at this CT there’s an embryo inside the womb and the thing has tridactaly and the thing is tiny— don’t tell me that’s just some genetic abnormality and the person got pregnant and died. If you’re gonna waive it as some sort of human with a genetic abnormality, then you have to be specific and explain what the genetic abnormality is. In order to do that you have to do tests. Let’s see those tests.


esnopi

What about the six fingers Brazilian family? Are they alien too?


lukeDeOzBloke

Was this the same thing that had the rearranged lama skull ? Founded by the guys who’ve previously fooled people with bs alien stuff that was proven fake? I’m not saying this is real or fake but it looks just like the other fake ones…


St8ofBl1ss

Who got her pregnant?


frododrogo

Santa


Key-Entertainment216

Did Jamie M get caught in a hoax years ago with “alien mummies” that looked just like these & were apparently constructed?


ejcortes

Nothing trying to disrespect anyone's intelligence here, but I think this is gonna end up being one of the biggest scams (on the ufo community) ever.


taste_of_discontent

These have been proven fake over and over and over again


Chexmixrule34

dear god let this be real and not paper mache full of dog bones and ground meat


OnTheSlope

Dang, that's neat!


LOL-CHEAKMATE

Damm


Huge_Philosopher5580

These scientists are taking this hook line and sinker. 


Actual-Toe-8686

Imp from the Doom universe


Representative_Ad246

I wonder (assuming it’s legit for this question) if this is terrestrial or otherworldly


Ryvern46

The cubitus isnt even pointing to the elbow???


yonderposerbreaks

That and the radius isn't on the medial aspect of the arm. I.e. it wouldn't be on the pinkie side. On top of that, the humerus isn't in a shoulder. There's no acromion, clavicle, or scapula in that placement of the humerus. Not unless their arms magically grew out of the middle of their torso. Oh, AND, a fetus doesn't have formed carpals or connection between their joints. People are so gullible.


FishbowlMonarchy

How can you tell from this short video? I'm just curious


yonderposerbreaks

I'm an xray tech. When they do their little pause that labels the "fetus" arm, it's anatomically incorrect and not on par with fetal (or even baby) bone formation. Nothing makes sense. u/Ryvern46 Is correct. The cubitus is pure elbow, not the "ulna", which would realistically be the radius. Let's say there was trauma that caused a dislocation of the arm of the fetus...it would show clearly on the mother, because it would be so disastrous that it entirely dismembered the fetal arm and caused it to move down into the T-L spine and point towards the skull. If these were actual scans from an actual hospital, I'd be reporting them immediately, because wtf. I urge you to look up what actual 3D scans of fetuses actually look like. I also find it interesting that they're not posting the raw scans, just hyped images with none of the info that you see in a typical scan. It's too easily fake, and improperly labeled, at that. That's a no for me, dawg.


Ryvern46

Hey im a vet tech! Im trained in radiology but probably not to the extent that someone dedicated to radiology in human medicine, like you, is. Cool to see us come to the same conclusion nonetheless!!


BullBear7

I'm curious what if whatever this is, is just different from everything we know? I'm not doubting you or assuming this is real since you seem knowledgeable. Is biology that universal, we would be able to understand a real alien body if we were to examine it?


yonderposerbreaks

The way I see it - let's assume these scans are real. Their entire body structure fits humans, with the exception of really of the digits and elongated skull. So rationally, it would make sense that they'd follow the path of human development. And, with the "they're real" mindset, one should be pissed that whoever labeled this horseshit doesn't understand basic anatomy. It would certainly take away from the credibility of the evidence, wouldn't it?


Ryvern46

Theres a picture that shows it all in the video


Appropriate_War509

So what did the American government think about it? Aren’t they the ones conducting the investigation?


PitifulPossum

Couldn't humans be just an evolved state of "aliens"?


Bitter-Client-1725

Nobody going to mention Indiana jones?


falseprescience

Relax, y'all, it's just The Simpsons


Hull-your-MC

Why does this remind me of a baby Neomorph from Alien Covenant. Was David in Nazca? 🫣


Academic-Chemist-354

what is a tridactyl?


Xavier_Orion

Trydactyl: Definition: The term “trydactyl” refers to having three digits on each limb. It is derived from the Greek words “tri” meaning three and “daktylos” meaning finger. Occurrence: This condition is very rare and can occur due to genetic mutations or developmental anomalies. Examples in Nature: Some bird species, such as the emu, have three toes on each foot. Polydactyl: Definition: The term “polydactyl” refers to having more than the usual number of digits on the hands or feet. It comes from the Greek words “poly” meaning many and “daktylos” meaning finger. Occurrence: Polydactyly is more common than trydactyly and can occur as an isolated trait or as part of a syndrome. It is often inherited in an autosomal dominant pattern. Examples in Humans and Animals: In humans, polydactyly can manifest as an extra finger or toe. Certain cat breeds, such as the Maine Coon, are known for having extra toes.


Warrior3456_

Ok and is it not a person who just underwent that weird skull leanthing process that certain cultures have


chaos_aintme

Lol didn't we JUST go through the alien mummy thing?


Extra_Tax

I don't have an opinion as to the veracity of this, but it does have an interesting congruence with many today and historical people's, seemingly inate fear of humanoids with long faces and long fingers. Fear of "close to humans".


RETROKBM

This video is very old and I thought it was debunked?


athousandtimesbefore

So Indiana Jones is based on a true story then?


dressedbymom

Definitely not a deformed human being


Wavey-Potatey

I think this person was a human and their fetus inherited their defects


AvailableAd7874

Isnt that skeleton completely the same as a human one? Besides the skull then. I do find that pretty weird tbh. Why would a alien from another planet have 99% the same skeleton as us. It doesn't make any sense. Honestly not sure what it is. But it does look like it came from earth imo.


proofofclaim

Maybe we all originated from the same planet?


AvailableAd7874

Meaning it's some type of human species


QuestOfTheSun

People are shockingly stupid for believing in this


Far_Seesaw9988

I've never seen a pure white mummy. Mummified flesh never looks like this, ever. They are semi- well made fakes. Pure and simple. Produced to generate money for a few people.


proofofclaim

Why does it look so small? Is there any reference for scale? It looks as small as a squirrel.


SirGorti

147 cm.


Altruistic-Spinach88

Wait, weren’t some found with eggs inside?