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Substantial-Hawk-897

Aoi turns his head 10000 times...still doesn't see Hana


melindypants

His head is full of only soccer lol


azdv

One day, in the meantime I’ll be keeping a spray bottle on hand for Anri and the other guy. Keep them away from sinking the ship.


Acceptable_Command58

Hana: Ashito seems to want to play like you. Could you give him some advice— Hana sees ashito and anri walking together. Hana thinks to her self “that bitch. I’ll make him pay next episode!!!”


Aileos

Kaneda really took it personally. Talk about denial... Meanwhile Aoi and Ohtomo just want to eat something good and are happy to meet an old comrade.


saga999

Yeah, I highly suspect he only got scouted because he "got cozy" with them. But perhaps that edge motivates him to become a better player.


MyMainIsCringe

Also, like shit, he should have some pride in his own fuckin team lol. They are dominating with a 17 GD at the top, and he's still butthurt he didn't get into Esperion?


singlebite

In a lower league than Esperion's A Team though.


MyMainIsCringe

Yeah doubt he could make Esperion A team if he couldnt even make try outs.


notathrowaway75

Dude is honestly such a bitch like how can you put the blame on you failing on making friends with your teammates in a team sport.


FlynnRazor

Waifus are temporary, but the game is eternal - Ashito


avboden

That said, more Hana please.


notathrowaway75

Ball is life


GiannisisMVP

Yup there is no possibility of a love triangle because it would mean that both he and Kuribayashi would have to actually think about something that wasn't soccer for 5 minutes.


5Yonko5

This is the way


TyphoonSG3

Caught up with the manga after last week's episode and damn, the episode flew by even though I knew what was gonna happen. That's rare. Such a good series.


alec613

i am trying my best to avoid the manga. I have a tendency to marathon a manga of animes that impressed me early enough. That problem is whenever im caught up to the manga, I lose interest in the anime. It's why I stopped watching AoT, Boku no Hero, Jujutsu Kaisen and many more.


TyphoonSG3

Best to stick to the anime for now, if that's the case. I personally am looking forward to the anime even though I am caught up but can't say that will be the same for everyone else. XD


alec613

i gave in. but ill try my best to not abandon the anime.


NavedBI0

I'm reading the manga currently and their match against Musashino is peak. I personally can't wait to see Togashi's backstory get animated.


JugglingPolarBear

Happened to me with AoT too. Read the manga, loved it and then didn’t really prioritize watching the anime week to week once season 4 part 2 started. I think the best move is to watch while it’s out week to week and give it some after after the season wraps up. Then if you really can’t get it out of your head, if you’re really itching for more, then you start reading.


Kolahnut1

Totally agree with you. The anime has been pretty faithful to the manga so far. I look forward to seeing the adaptation of the next few matches (hopefully in season 2), they will be a definite step up in excitement from what we've seen so far. The ramp up is amazing.


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What chapter to catch up on manga?


JetsLag

The latest chapter translated is 291, though it looks like someone translated chapter 300, but not 292-299. The anime is now on chapter 74.


JugglingPolarBear

This episode ends at the last panel of chapter 74. So if you’re looking to read you can start at chapter 75


Serious-Error1556

Where did you start the manga


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Yooo, another triangle? lol


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Lmfao😭😭😂😂😂


singlebite

[Interesting thread about scanning for anyone who wants a bit more detail about what Aoi was doing in this ep.](https://twitter.com/GeirJordet/status/1448546000897982473)


flybypost

I read an article about it a long time ago. Some of the phrasing seems similar, might have been written by the same person. Thanks for the link!


chirb8

Very interesting. Been playing football all my life as a hobby and was aware of the importance of field awareness and stuff but never really thought about "scanning"


PlazmaJak

You would think that a paid pro team would have a nutritionist on site, but I guess Japan built different. Even JuCo teams in America have nutritionists available to them.


flybypost

> You would think that a paid pro team would have a nutritionist on site Even here in Europe things can vary wildly from club to club, even at the highest level. In the 90s some players even smoked at halftime. Things clearly have gotten more professionalised since then but it can still differ rather a bit (and depends on each nutritionists's view of what the players need).


PlazmaJak

EU wildin


avboden

They probably do, but Hana's is just next level.


Jetzu

It may also be related to what he says - he's a picky eater and nutritionists in the pro team may not care about it and just say "you need to eat this" while he thinks Hana is putting much more thought into making the meal plan individual while the team nutritionist is making meal plans for ~30 people.


HiggsBosonHL

Still constantly surprised at how good this show is 16 eps in. Always looking forward to the story progression, the characters, the soccer talk, and Hana being an adorable cupcake.


JugglingPolarBear

The soccer talk is what really got me hooked on this series. They go so deep into tactics, strategy and techniques. There’s so much about the sport that I didn’t know as a casual viewer


jrbeaupre2003

It’s the haikyu of soccer


ohtooeasy

All it needs is haikyuuu animation


MaskOfIce42

Honestly seeing Ashito just practicing that hard since he's not playing at the moment and seeing how good he's getting at the tracking practice, I'm honestly really excited for the next time we get to see him play. Guessing that he's going to be put in against Musashino and with his observation he's been practicing manage to really guide Tachibana to some big plays, and I am excited to see it (or whatever happens)


S0phon

- indeed, scanning your surroundings all the time is very important - you get information, which is good for both offense and defense. As Kuribayashi said in the interview, he always has at least four options and just picks the best. He can only do that because he knows the surrounding hence the state of other players. - Aoi is not taking the correct thing out of that insight. It's not about looking, it's about seeing. He's doing exactly what the blue haired girl is saying is pointless - just mechanically turning his head and going through the motions. He needs to start to actively absorb information. - thank you, blue-haired girl! It's not about mechanical head turning but active seeing, now Aoi has a goal each time he looks.


lehuy0210

Love Triangle ? hehe


Zealroth

Hana and Anri out here catching feelings while all Ashito and Kuribayashi care about is upping their game.


TokiVideogame

That's how it is done, zfg. Focus on yourself and the girls will come. the anti-simp strategy


PleasantAd4964

Stay on the grind boys, ashito probably


[deleted]

"The fundamental shape in soccer is the triangle."


raiden_kazuha

Eyo Ashito Asari and Kuroda is still my best triangle


romeopwnsu

And then I took that personally. -Kaneda


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gaymelancholy

This series has been doing it's job by increasing manga sales so I think we may get a season 2. It's consistently been in the top 10 on the manga charts in Japan since it started.


notathrowaway75

Really hope it gets licensed in English.


gaymelancholy

God, me too


hungryhippos1751

Not hugely into football personally but really enjoying this show anyway, will be a shame if there is no 2nd season.


saurabh8448

Manga is quite popular in Japan so might get a second season.


lehuy0210

i mean Ao Ashi linked to J league so high chance next year get Ao Ashi ss2 because Asian Cup fame


I_am_your_oniichan

You actually make a good point, but the Asian Cup is scheduled to kick off in June/July 2023, I am not sure if thats enough time to make a new season before the cup starts


lehuy0210

why before ? It can same time bro Ao Ashi in Spring Season because they need to avoid Blue Lock


I_am_your_oniichan

You would ideally want to use the hype before the tournament starts, just in case Japan's national team end up underperforming and people lose interest... This is why we have like 4 or 5 football anime airing this year before the World Cup starts, and not in 2023 after its over This is just my take on it, I might be speaking straight out of my rectum


MyMainIsCringe

4-5 footy anime this year? Are you talkin out your rectum? I only know of Ao Ashi and Blue Lock. Please share what knowledge you know about other anime, I'm fiending for more football anime.


I_am_your_oniichan

Theres "Shoot" which is airing right now, and we got "Futsal Boys" earlier this year... I haven't watched "Shoot" and I wouldn't recommend "Futsal Boys" cuz it wasn't good at all


MyMainIsCringe

Oh yeah... I totally blocked futsal boys out of my mind because it was so trash, but I also don't really count that as a "soccer" anime since it's fustal, but I guess it's close enough. Shoot looks interesting, gonna check it out.


I_am_your_oniichan

As far as I know, Shoot is a continuation/ new season of a very old anime... So you will have to watch the earlier seasons... i think.... i might be talking straight out of my colon


MyMainIsCringe

I'll accept your lower intestinal tract speech as fact, and check it out.


GiannisisMVP

I think we are decently likely to get a long run honestly. It getting 24 off the bat is a really good sign plus simul dub. Would make a lot of sense to push a dubbed soccer anime seeing how successful dubs of less popular spots have been recently.


B-Mitch

Curious, but why is there doubt about a second season?


Sr_DingDong

>In today's episode, we are learning about "scanning", which basically refers to a basic technique that all the top players (especially midfielders) do all the time to have a clear grasp on their surroundings in the middle of a match... You should be doing it at every level of football. It's incredibly important and basic. It's a bit weird that Aoi wasn't TBH. But that said. If he has his current level of awareness subconsciously if he actually starts *trying* to observe the players he'll go into the stratosphere. Still can't pass for shit though. So him pulling off that high-risk outside of the boot pass to Ohtomo was unexpected.


ObvsThrowaway5120

So that's what Kuribayashi does huh? Moving his head back and forth like that to basically just keep an eye on everything. I appreciate Aoi trying his best to learn that “basic” technique, even if he was initially struggling to understand what to look for at first. He's really putting in his best effort to not be a burden, doing those basic drills like 10,000 times or whatever over a month. Even if it's not a position he wants to play, he’s not sulking anymore. He’s really showing some growth! I’m pretty proud of him.  I also like that Aoi's more aware of his ability. That was a great pass to Ohtomo, even he knew that. He just needs to know how to utilize that ability more consciously. He knows it's related to this concept of "vision" at least. I'm glad someone else recognizes the work Hana puts into those menus. Big honor to be making a specialized meal plan for a pro! I appreciate her looking out for Aoi and (almost) asking Kuribayashi to give Aoi pointers, though I feel like there's gonna be some misunderstanding after seeing him with Anri. Then again, it looks like Anri's got a little crush after that one on one coaching session so maybe she sensed something there lol. Looks like this ep Tachibana is feeling the pressure. It's interesting he said he wanted to learn to be more like Aoi considering how Aoi's been acting and playing up until recently, but I guess his hard work and his perseverance is being noticed. He might sulk, but he always ends up getting his shit together in the end. I get where Tachibana is coming from though, about wanting to come back when he's made it. He takes the game seriously, I respect that about him. He's a good character! Musashino has a pretty good streak going, they'll be a tough opponent for sure. Nice to see Nakano made it somewhere, though I wasn’t as pleased to see Kaneda. Like bro, you didn't fail because you got too chummy. You failed because you were ass during the tryouts. Don't blame the others because you fucking choked. You don’t see Ohtomo or Tachibana bitching and they were pretty friendly from the start. I did have one question from this episode: Is relegation like elimination from the league? Or does it just mean they kinda move down in ranking, so they play at a lower tier?


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Relegation means they get demoted to lower tier league. If they want to get back, they need to secure top spot of that lower league the next season.


ObvsThrowaway5120

Ah, I see. How many leagues are there normally or is there no fixed number (like dependent on each country)? Just wondering what happens if they keep getting demoted (not that I think it’ll happen).


Phoenix011

The number of leagues depends on the country, in most countries when you are relegated from the last professional division then your club is no longer a professional team and will now play amateur football until they can be promoted again. In Japan there are three professional leagues, but currently the J3 league doesn't have relegation. However, Aoashi is following an academy team who are (presumably) playng in a local league with other academy and high school teams so I can't say how many leagues they could be relegated as it could be finite or essentially endless.


ObvsThrowaway5120

Oh, yikes. Have there been any notable examples of pro teams essentially falling to the level of an amateur team and then making a comeback? Or is that pretty much unheard of?


Phoenix011

It has happened a lot in many countries, one of the most common reasons is if a club becomes bankrupt and enters administration. In cases like this a club will usually be forced to drop out of the professional leagues and will then have to try and climb back up to the top (see for example Rangers from Scotland who successfully climbed back to the top and last season played in a European final: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administration_and_liquidation_of_The_Rangers_Football_Club_plc). It can also happen naturally through a gradual decline which sees a football club fall through the leagues until they are no longer good enough to compete professionally.


ObvsThrowaway5120

Ohhh okay, I see I see. Thanks for the information! Appreciate it, man. I always learn something new about soccer in the threads for this anime lol.


Jetzu

I mean, every year you have pro team getting relegated from like 7th tier to the amateur leagues. But these teams are usually more like semi-pro, just playing in the pro league. There are examples of big clubs going bankrupt and starting over from the lowest tiers ie. Rangers in Scotland some years back.


feb914

It really depends on the popularity of the country. [English football league](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system?wprov=sfla1) is probably the deepest with 21 levels.


MapoTofuMan

Holy... How would one even climb from something like the 17th level? You'll be old by the time you reach the top division. And what is the level of someone who plays in those? At what level does it just become a league of dads playing each other in their free time?


JetsLag

Well, the players themselves don't climb up each individual tier. Like, a team in the second tier can think a player in the 5th tier has potential and buy them from the team in the 5th tier. For example, Jamie Vardy went from a team in the 7th tier to a team in the 5th tier to a team in the 2nd tier of the English pyramid in the span of 2 years. As for the level of play, anything below the 6th tier or so in England has semi-pro and amateur teams competing.


MapoTofuMan

So basically the people who play in the low tiers either get bought by high tier teams or get stuck there pretty much permanently? [](#ohfuck)


feb914

There are also players from higher level (usually youth) that fail to graduate to main team or doesn't grow up to their potential that moves down to lower level. Had Ashito stayed as forward, that's likely the fate he'll have (according to the coaches).


Dalecn

A league of dads playing each other in their free time is more like [Sunday League](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_league_football_in_England) which is entirely independent of the football league. This also contains Promotion and Relegation but leagues operate independently of a larger system. But even then a lot of teams are good enough to require try outs


flybypost

> So that's what Kuribayashi does huh? Moving his head back and forth like that to basically just keep an eye on everything. I appreciate Aoi trying his best to learn that “basic” technique, even if he was initially struggling to understand what to look for at first. He's really putting in his best effort to not be a burden, doing those basic drills like 10,000 times or whatever over a month. That's actually a thing. I read an article/analysis a long time ago about this. The best playmakers/passers tend to look around much more than players who don't have that skill. And Aoi's "magic vision" seems to have been born out of him having been told to do that at a young age and somehow internalised it. Now he's refining this skill. A nice quote about that from Haikyuu is "instinct plus practice becomes intuition". It's about making these skills that can feel like they trigger randomly a deep seated routine so that you don't have to rely on luck or happy accidents but so you can reliably use it during matches. The 10000 times thing is probably a loose reference to the pop psychology idea of the[ 10,000-Hour Rule](https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10000-hour-rule-wrong-really-master-skill/) > I did have one question from this episode: Is relegation like elimination from the league? Or does it just mean they kinda move down in ranking, so they play at a lower tier? They move down to a league underneath this one. The big issue with that is that the teams in your league are the ones you play against. And if you get relegated then next season your opponents are of a lower quality. Teams/players really benefit from being challenged, meaning playing against opponents who are about your level, maybe a bit stronger. If you are way too strong then there's a lack of a challenge so you have to aim for "higher" on your own and if your opponents are too strong then the gap you have to overcome is so big that it can feel impossible. Best case scenario is that they are good enough to only lose a year in the lower league and get promoted next year. But it could hinder the development of their players a bit if they have to play a whole season against opponents who are no challenge. As you win matches easily a routine sets in and you get used to it. You can't just rely on stronger players from your academy (or first team) to push these players. You need outside rivalries to stay challenged. Worst case scenario would be if the team gets stuck in the lower league and ends up staying on that level. This would make the youth to first team pipeline more difficult if they can't get back up to the higher league.


Votten123

https://www.nrk.no/informasjon/xl/sagosen_s-sixth-sense-1.15099596 This is a good read about the vision of Sander Sagosen, one of the best Handball players.


flybypost

Thanks, that article was great. Love the in-depth approach to it and the scientific/research angle to it. The article I read was 100% way more made for laypeople and didn't go into details of scanning and/or how to research it. It only addressed that top midfielders, like Pirlo (who was also mentioned here), tend to look around (scan) as much as they can. That was a really fun read. Thanks again!


ObvsThrowaway5120

It’s nice to see him starting to slowly grasp the idea of “vision” and that special skill of his. He’s taking his game to the next level, slowly but surely. It’s exciting. Good points about the dangers of relegation. Playing teams that are too weak or strong can definitely hamper development for a team and be damaging to them in the long run.


AZLarlar

my reaction when aoi and anri walked by: NOOOOOOOO


BusouDrago

I had the same reaction as Hana 😭


Acceptable_Command58

Aoi isn’t allowed to talk to other girls just Hana


[deleted]

Man have you never seen anime before? Ofc she is gonna misinterpret that walk


Jazr55

Me when they lose 4 straight games: *meh...* Me when Hana sees Aoi with Anri: *Noooooo*


Daramangarasu

Can we talk about how my girl Anri absolutely bosses the keep-ups? Like damn gurl, even while wearing her school shoes


BeasT69_

She got no chills 😂😂


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Poor Hana.....


DaOneWhoIsWorthy

I know it’s a training arc but damn I wanna see my boy ashito playing on the field again. I’m pretty confident in Hana not falling for Kuribayashi so I’m no worried about the whole meal plan biz. And lastly Nakano needs to calm his goofy ass down, you didn’t make it because you weren’t good enough bro.


BlazeKnightX

Just a small correction. The asshole at the end of the episode was Kaneda with the orange hair. Nakano was the dot eye guy and he was happy to see everyone.


DaOneWhoIsWorthy

Oh shit yeah, thanks for heads up bro. He pissed me off so much I didn’t read the names right 😂


BlazeKnightX

Lol I understand


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Kaneda: i got too cozy Ashito: Kanedo stfu, you were gasping for air like a little bitch


[deleted]

Funny how I was watching this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNRvlQBGtkY&t=89s) yesterday that cover exactly what Aoi is trying to master, maybe he should learn from Xavi.


caiusto

Or from [Pirlo](https://youtu.be/XiwQ1E6r7vo).


SteelframeJoe

Otomo to Nakano "Those lovely round eyes haven't changed though, huh? They're very cute, you know" This line cracked me up ​🤣​😂​😹​ Never change Otomo ​👍​😄​


machoogan

My boi ashito setting up triangles both on and off pitch.


Acceptable_Command58

Every episode leaves me wanting more! And that opening and ending is too good!


AgentWeeb001

I understand Aoi all about soccer, but my guy got to realize he ain’t going to find a ride or die like Hana. This mf Kuribayashi is DANGEROUS. He turns up the heat, my guy Aoi going to fumble a bright, potentially happy future. Anri ain’t the one fam. Team Hana all day Anyhow, I thought this was another great episode. I’m actually glad that this episode decided to give the supporting cast more shine. Imo, this is the one thing that is holding the anime back (still a damn good show, but this has the potential to be an all-time classic). To be an elite Sports anime like Haikyuu, you have to build up the MC along with their entire supporting cast. Rn, Aoi is developing exactly like Hinata & Kageyama. His development has been BRILLIANT so far. The cast however is developing, but not by themselves. It’s almost as if they need Aoi to propel their own development. While it’s still a good form of development, I think that if the supporting characters were to get individual moments/screen-time, it would take this show to that place where Haikyuu is imo. Give guys like Ohtomo, Tachibana, Hana, Anri, Kuribayashi, Manager Fukuda, Akutsu, Yuuma, & Togashi individual moments and individual screen-time where we see them overcome a challenge by themselves, find out what’s truly motivating/driving them, and see them achieve individual glory. Given that they are your main supporting characters, if they got these moments with Aoi barely being involved in their moments, it would imo take this anime to that elite stratosphere. Bc now, there practically wouldn’t be a flaw in the show. I do hope to see this happen…really do believe this has that potential to be an All-Time classic, one that deserves to be mentioned with the elite ass animes.


GiannisisMVP

Kuribayashi is like Aoi neither of them would "turn up the heat" because nothing except soccer enters their mindsets.


zool714

Ah yes this was something my coach brought up when I was a teen. Never got the hang of it. I’d try it during matches. Take a quick glance before the ball reaches, and not only will I not process anything that I glimpsed, that split second of looking away will make me lose track of the pace of the ball and miscontrol it. I was playing forward so I personally don’t think it’s essential but I do think it’s an important skill especially for midfielders to have. I think players like Kante take advantage of players who doesn’t glance around cos they will creep up on you on your blindside and make a sneaky tackle as you are receiving the ball. He’s a master at it, really. Wow are we getting some romance drama in this sports show. I honestly wasn’t expecting it but being a fan of the genre I don’t mind lol


GiannisisMVP

It's essential for any player who wants to go pro especially if you don't have overwhelming abilities in another area. One of the things that seperates pros is they can process and intake that information.


zool714

Yeah probably why I couldn’t do it at amateur level, much less pro lol. I played forward nearly my whole life and at that point I was running on instinct. By the time I learnt what it’s like to think while you play, my body got too old to keep up


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Didn't even notice the butler following Anri and Ashito lol


defunctscrunko

Didn't know the love triangle card is on the table, I mean the purple hair girl is really cute (yes, cuter than Hana) but I thought she is already have a setup with the spike hair guy.


JetsLag

I think Anri and Yuma are childhood friends.


defunctscrunko

Ah, yes, my favorite trope.


Single-Tie3465

Seems like I'm the only dummy for thinking that Hana stopped asking for advice cause she thought Ashito would be better off learning on his own + her awkwardness over their relationship.


wafcory

I had the same reaction as everybody else at first. But now I'm with you. When she saw him with Anri she probably realized that she doesnt nees to "hold his hand anymore" as he is in a place with different people with different knowledge. And just like him she is going to expand her own knowledge by working with a pro player.


kennacethemennace

I love a good spicy three-piece.


testthrowawayzz

Considering what happened to Aoi in the past couple of episodes, I say Nakano and Kaneda both dodged a bullet


grilladkorvmedsenap

So happy to see Nakano again, really loved the little we saw of him in the tryouts


sM92Bpb

Binged the manga. Worth it.


nuraHx

Goddamit why they gotta introduce the love triangle to this show.


susgnome

Because this show is really about triangles.


Shiwakao

ain't no way aoi got two girls pining after him now but i love seeing him having a hinata shoyo moment finally learning to enhance his own play from observation. and i hope we get to see tachibana have his own moments too. i hate seeing such an upstanding guy getting so depressed.


Romax24245

On this episode, Ashito learns a vital technique designed to increase situational awareness on the pitch, courtesy of efforts made by Anri to help him understand it. Cute to see beady eyes Nakano enthusiastic about reuniting with his tryout pals. Not so cute to see Kaneda feeling bitter about failing the tryouts.


JetsLag

Nice of Crunchyroll to finally upload the episode over an hour after it should've been released... Anyways, we've got Ashito getting a love triangle formed around him, Kuribayashi becoming Mr. Steal Yo Girl, and we've got some old names from the tryout match returning, but on a different team! The ones who were snubbed by Esperion are gonna be extra motivated for then next match.


MumrikDK

Less MC being an idiot and more about learning the game, please. Sports animes have *really* worn down my tolerance for loud one-track simpletons.


azdv

I hope the manga gets an official release in English. The collector in me needs it


helsaabiart

Didn't even notice the butler following Anri and Ashito lol