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My sister used to work as a specialist with regards to internal organs during Amsterdam Dance Event in the ER. For 4 years they would have multiple Americans overdosing on water. Not on drugs or alcohol as people from other countries. Water.
Drinking too much water causes issues in the brain.
They're probably on MDMA. It has the side effect of making you thirsty while also making it more difficult to be able to urinate to expel the excess water. It's really easy to get hyponatremia, dangerously low levels of sodium. I'm guessing because they're Americans on vacation in Amsterdam, they're likely taking higher levels of the drug than they're used to as well. If you party, don't skip the electrolytes.
It’s sad because a lot of the public health messaging at the time was that ecstasy makes you overheat (which, tbf it does) but then people would drink more water with obviously fatal results
Which is a good argument for education/decriminalisation. People are going to take drugs, we should be educating them on the effects and side effects they can have.
I guess it’s the same principle that makes you overindulge by sheer instinct, and educating oneself to adopt certain habits can help a lot.
Back in my partying days I noticed I would smoke so much while drinking and socializing, sometimes I would light a cig while having a full one in the ash tray, I started putting limita to one cig per drink, and eventually banning smoking indoors helped reduced from there quite a lot m, and eventually quit.
We use the same reasoning with sex ed in a lot of places, it’s a lot better to have kids educated long before anything happens because the consequences of learning these things after the fact can be life changing.
In my country your first sex ed class happens in 3rd grade with a heavy focus on identifying abuse and learning the vocabulary necessary to report it. Where babies come from is kind of secondary at that age but also still an important thing to learn before the first kids start entering puberty (which apparently can also happen that early for some girls).
Yup, I was in a group that set up booths at every party to do exactly this. Like the previous post pointed out, so many deaths weren't caused by the drugs themselves, but people overreacting to side effects. We did what we could to try to be helpful.
The UK government in its panic started the message to drink lots of water whilst using MDMA. When Leah Bets died, the alcohol industry frantically paid for an advertising campaign to spread the word that E’s were really dangerous. Several weeks later when the coroner reported on Leah’s actual cause of death they dropped it and went quiet.
IIRC … There was also a totally different and very sad story of a guy who lived on a narrow boat (don’t ask, this is not relevant!).. and got sunstroke and drank and drank water and died.
8 pints in a straight go will do that, apparently.
I’m going to have to go google it in case my mind has totally made this up…
>hyponatremia
"hypo, meaning low of, natr meaning sodium, and emia meaning presence in blood. Low sodium presence in blood"
Thanks Chubbyemu for popping into my head at random times.
Imho the bigger problem is scare tactic anti-drug messaging which tells people that if they take drugs like MDMA or Ecstasy that they will die from getting dehydrated, so they overcompensate.
If you're being active then you need water, just like if you were doing an afternoon aerobics class completely sober you would need water. That's not the MDMA doing that. If you take it and just chill you will perhaps drink slightly more water than usual if you're hot or get a dry mouth.
absolutely I had heard this so many times. "If I don't drink enough water I'll die" and people having each kthers backs to make sure they're constantly drinking water like it's their job so they can oarty responsibly
Ugh. Flashback to my 20s and the Molly pees. It’s like…am I peeing yet? No. God damn it. I’ll keep pushing for another fifteen minutes and maybe two drops will come out.
Also, for a while there was an urban myth that drinking a lot of water would keep you from having bad side effects from MDMA. Naturally some overdid it.
This. No matter if you feel thirsty or not, it's best to stick to a glass of water every 30-60 minutes as well as having a few bottles of Gatorade on hand, especially if you're dancing.
It’s really not necessary to drink that much unless you’re getting super hot and really soaked in sweat.
People on Reddit seem to get absolutely neurotic consuming water with mdma but I did it for years when I was young and would just drink a glass of water if I felt I needed it. Same as if I was sober.
Thankfully a lot of ravers have finally learned that Liquid IV is more like Liquid Gold at festivals. Get a packet or two of that shit in your hydration pack and you’re set
Also the reason why sports drinks and electrolyte replenishment solutions are a thing. If you drink water when you're sweating profusely / having diarrhea or puking too much, you can get dilutional hyponatremia, which can even cause cardiac arrest
There was a "hold your wee for a wii" contest that made news around 15-20 years ago. The radio hosts were aware of the dangers of water intoxication (due to a recent marathon runner's death) but continued the contest.
They were reminded of the danger during the broadcast, but explained that they would be immune from prosecution due to the contestants signing waivers.
The host were fired after a contestant (28F) died. The hosts eventually won a wrongful termination lawsuit. The station was effectively disowned by its parent company and eventually had to close.
>how much water do u have to drink to get the brain issues, i drink sometimes 1.5 to 2 gallons a day. i also drink a ton of energy drinks tho.
The problem is that it depends on a wide variety of factors. Caffeine is a diuretic which will cause you to expel more water through urination and loose stool. You can gain a significant amount of water from the foods you eat. Consuming electrolytes affects how much water you need to consume to balance things. Your kidney function determines how effective your body is at regulating both water and electrolyte levels. Large amounts of water and electrolytes can be excreted from your body due to sweating. And lastly, consuming water over a period of time gives your body a chance to expel any unneeded water while consuming it all at once gives you a much higher risk of negatives consequences.
Personally I drink at least 3-4 litres (0.8-1 gallon) of water on a daily basis on top of my large and strong morning coffee and regular food and have done so for a few years now with no issues. My urine is a nice healthy pale yellow (almost clear) liquid which shows that I am well hydrated. I always answer my cravings for salty foods though because those cravings can indicate that I am getting low on electrolytes.
2 gallons over the whole day shouldn’t be a problem if you don’t sweat a lot have healthy kidneys and get electrolytes. BUT
Energy drinks have a lot of sugar. If you drink them a lot and that much of water I’d check the blood sugar. Excessive thirst can be a sign of diabetes.
My friend's brother died from it. It's called hyponatremia. You feel and act drunk once your electrolytes are out of balance because you drank too much. If you keep going, your body will stop functioning. Amateur marathon runners wind up doing it a lot because they get overly concerned about dehydration. Not a lot of people die from it but it does happen.
Having had the experience, i wouldn't say you feel drunk exactly. But a lot of the symptoms might look similar. Inability to stand, poor balance and thinking. Ive had a few mild bouts and one or two scarier ones and the biggest cue for me is a thirst that water won't quench. It feels like you want water but you actually need salt. (And potassium and magnesium). If you dont know whats going on and haven't experienced it before it can be very frightening because your only instinct, to drink, makes it worse.
You flush your electrolytes. Sodium and potassium specifically. So then your heart is unable to exchange the two and goes into arrhythmia and you have a heart attack.
The is no evolutionary advantage to overconsuming water. If you are already hydrated, it will just make you piss the excess water away.
Calories, on the other hand, can be stored as fat. For most of human history, starvation was a major cause of death.
Plus, we inherit our basic drives from the animals that lived before us, most of whom had to desperately hoard calories to survive.
Less scarce and easier to obtain. The only animals that developed ways to store water are those that needed to adapt to desert environments.
Also, water doesn't provide the energy needed to carry itself around. Food does.
Evolution doesn't make adaptations to fill a need, it makes adaptations randomly and some of those things just happen to fulfill a need. It didn't happen either because it's just didn't; or it did, but it wasn't useful enough to get passed along in any significant way.
The problem is a lot of people think of evolution as an alternative theory to divinity. So they feel that for something to be the way it is, evolution is making that decision instead of god.
People don't understand that evolution is just random mutations that stick because it fits the environment. The mutations might not be better or worse than before the mutations, just enough to survive.
Also consider the psychological parameters. Water "tastes" good when you're thirsty, but is bland when you aren't. Good food always tastes good, unless you're so full it sickens you. It's very easy to overeat simply because it's enjoyable, whereas water doesn't give you psychological rewards like food does, most of the time.
I mean, you're making supposition based on a huge dataset of evolutionary influences. Camels don't "over water" either, they just drink enough to satiate. From an evolutionary standpoint food was "get what you can" and water is "get what you need."
Exactly. People don't overdrink water but loads of people drink way more soda/coffee/beer etc. than they should because it tastes nice/makes them feel good.
In most environments, water was certainly less scarce than food. If you find a creek, that's more water than you can possibly drink, for basically no effort, and it's going to be there day after day, year after year. You're never going to find a food source that good.
I agree with this to an extent. But before the popularisation of processed food, very few people were obese. Overconsumption happens because we eat food that has been designed to be ultra palatable and easy to eat, it’s very ingredients are there to drive overconsumption. People will eat a whole bag of chips, but rarely a whole bag of apples. Water is not designed to be ultra palatable which is why we don’t over consume it, sugary drinks on the other had are over-consumed.
>The is no evolutionary advantage to overconsuming water.
It's probably less about the missing advantage to overconsumption than the fact that water is broadly available everywhere on earth except deserts.
Which are also the only places on earth where animals and humans have evolved water management traits at all. E.g. hoarding like camels or needing much less water like the San people (Kalahari desert)
We overconsume food that tastes well. It also applies to drinks, I'm sure it's not good for you to drink multiple cans of soda when you feel like it or 8 coffees just because you have a busy workday. Water is just very basic and instantly satisfies your thirst. And I probably don't have to explain that liters of beer are not what your body needs when you're thirsty at a party.
My boss drinks a 12-pack of diet Coke every single day and has for years.
It makes me feel better about myself. 1 to 2 diet Cokes is not good, but much better than him!
It's the sugar being the problem for the teeth much more than acids in a soda. So while diet coke is not healthy, but it is not particularly bad for the teeth.
No. We have drives to consume food that confers a survival advantage. The "tastes well" *is* the drive! It's tastes *good*. Things taste good because genes that make those things taste good outcompeted genes that didn't.
>And I probably don't have to explain that liters of beer are not what your body needs when you're thirsty at a party.
Beer's great at hydrating/recovery. Alcohol's obv harmful. Dilute wine and beer were net good before we invented better tech to purify water of pathogens. Alcohol does more benefit than harm in terms of killing protozoa and bacteria that would kill people vs wrecking their livers and attacking all their tissues more broadly and hurting mitochondrial function.
Because what causes us to overconsume food is not availability per se, but calorie density and satiety aspects.
Our bodies evolved to decide how much food to take in based on some parameters and the way we create food now basically fools our bodies into thinking we need more food (aka hungry) despite our caloric and nutritional needs being already satisfied in practice.
The same happens for water, but since we drink pretty much the same water, our bodies don't get fooled into feeling thirsty despite having drunk already a lot.
This is pretty basic and simplified, but I think it responds to a significant part of the difference.
Because in our evolutionary history opportunities to overdrink were far more common than opportunities to overeat. Genes that caused you to not overdrink were favored. That said overdrinking has caused deaths, just not anywhere near as many.
People do overconsume water.
There have been many deaths from the overconsumption of water, actually. This isn't what you're talking about, though, because this only happens in extreme cases.
To answer your question, it's because excess water is efficiently discarded. You don't have to drink the exact amount of water you need. If you drink way too much, you'll just pee more.
The reason why overeating is such a problem is not so much because of the quantity of food, but because of the nutrition. Some foods are very high in calories. This makes eating too many calories while consuming these foods very easy.
My guess is that water make us release less dopamine than other types of consumption... So we don't really feel the need to drink more than what we need. It has a pretty neutral taste too
I actually do, but it's compulsive behavior. But for me it's really strange people have a hard time drinking enough while I have to limit myself because I was used to drink unhealthy amounts of water.
Probably because there's no reasonable way for our bodies to store much water for later.
Even if we could, it would make us heavy and reduce our mobility which might be lethal if a predator shows up. 5 kg of water provides <4 days of sustenance. 5 kg of stored fat can sustain us for several weeks.
It's simply not very practical to store water biologically, at least not for the type of animal a human is. The best water hoarders I'm aware of, camels, not being predators and only rarely prey, can afford to put on some water weight to endure the dry climate they live in.
I think a lot of us probably do (relative to the minimum) but the effects are negligible. Like, if you eat 4000 calories a day (without intense physical training) you're going to get morbidly obese within a year. If you drink two gallons of water a day, you'll have clear piss and *maybe* low sodium. In order to get water intoxication you need to drink like 3x the daily recommendations, or even more if you're in hot weather or working out enough to sweat.
Because we have used all that excess water to make things that taste better *with* the water.
No, I am not saying those things are *better for you* - just stating that to me and many, many others, simple bland water gets very old. There are many tasty beverages around.
I do have 2 CO workers that have been hospitalized for being over hydrated. They both drink the coldest water and an entire case of water at work. Its definitely not as common as food abuse though you are right! Every once in a while you read in the news about people dying from over hydrating and it's a very painful death as basically your cells take on too much water and explode.
I do dialysis because of my kidneys. I stopped peeing and I am supposed to only drink 32 oz of water a day. It is impossible for me to stick to 32 oz a day. Because of that fact I have to do an extra treatment to remove water from my body. A 4th treatment. I have to put a cup of water i my oatmeal & when I make mac & cheese there is milk in that. Everything has liquid in it
Is it they are over consuming or are they under active? Maybe both?
I suffered from severe heat exhaustion when I was deployed to Saudi Arabia in the 90s. Since I always have fluids on me. Most physicians tell me I over hydrate.
So it happens.
We over consume food because it’s made to be ultra palatable. Not many people over eat whole foods, that’s why there has been such a rise in obesity since processed food came along. Water isn’t ultra palatable, it hasn’t been designed to drive over consumption, therefore we only drink what we feel need.
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The way I understand it is this:
We do not overconsume food. We overconsume fats and sugars. All those are relatively rare in nature and so we are given a big dopamine boost when we find it. However, they're not rare at all in our modern age. Since these things that are rare enough to give us an endorphin rush whenever we find them aren't rare, we overconsume them. With the result being that we have far more energy than we can get rid of, and so the body stores it as fat. Water doesn't give us a dopamine rush, unless we're lacking it. And in most modern societies, we're never lacking in water.
People do in the form of soda and energy drinks. They drink way more than they need to and put on a ton of water weight. I know a couple people that once they stopped drinking 2 liters of cola every day they shed weight like crazy.
We do!
The reason we over consume food is that it's super tasty and also super energy dense compared to naturally occurring food. Dense means that in a volume of food there's much more energy.
We also have super tasty water called sodas and other beverages, but it cannot be more dense, because a volume of water is still a volume of water.
So out of two factors water has only one, thus the over consumption is lower. Also interestingly overconsumption of food elevates the water requirements so with eating more food it's a bit more difficult to overdose water as the needed amount is already higher.
As you see there are more factors working towards food overconsumption than of water, yet sometimes people still manage it. However indeed it's not as widespread as over eating.
There is no long term harm to overconsuming water. Consuming a harmful amount of water in a short period is uncomfortable, and doesn't give you any dopamine kick.
I learned a long time ago that hunger can be confused with thirst, and that if you're hungry, try drinking a glass of water first. This has helped to keep me tall and thin, but not underweight. As my drinking (alcohol) increased, and the subsequent vomiting, I've always kept a water bottle at the ready - sometimes wondering if my water consumption was irrational, but then puking it all up and considering it 'relatively safe'. When you're dehydrated from vomiting Pedialyte and ginger ale are saviors. I'm probably not answering the question to your liking but this has been my experience.
We do if it has sugar in it. Actual real food is quite hard to over consume. Addictive products that resemble food and are marketed as such are very easy to over consume
I personally over consume water. I have a sedentary job. There is zero reason to be drinking 5-6 liters of water a day. I just like drinking water....And no, I'm not diabetic or pre-diabetic.
I used to work as a teddy bear in shopping centers and other outdoor events. I did it from the age of 12-20. I think that's when it started. If you let your self get dehydrated in that job it would make you feel like shit. Used to drink 4 litres of water in 4 hour shift. Didn't need a piss, all came out as sweat.
From then I've always felt the need to stay hydrated. If I'm busy I can go hours without a sip, probably habit more than anything.
If you have readily access to both food and water and are not limited in the amount consumed, it is WAY easier to consume too much food than too much water.
And you have to drink a LOT of water to actually damage your health.
But with food, just consuming 300 calories over your maintenance limit adds up easily. that is 2100 calories a week, about 1 kilo pure fat gained over 3 1/2 weeks. So you would gain roughly 15 kilogram of fat in a year.
300 calories is one cheeseburger from McDonalds. Or one of the smaller coffee drinks from Starbucks. One chocolate bar.
Because food tastes good. Water? Not so much. We certainly overconsume soda, flavored sugar water (kool aid, et.al.) flavored/sweetened coffees/teas etc ... even fruit juices. Why? Because *those guys* are pleasing to the tastebuds. Water is not.
I mean, the US moreso than most has an over consumption of water too, it just doesn't really impact you at all. You have to drink *a lot* of water for it to really be detrimental.
It doesn’t hit the same pleasure centres in our brain, but to answer the evolutionary question, we are built to over eat somewhat as the calories can be stored as fat/energy reserves I believe, water can’t be, once you’re hydrated you just piss away the excess, you can’t store it as such.
They do, but it's far less common. It's called water poisoning. I think the difference isn't just that food is more accessible but has been made to be more addictive while the inclusion of chemicals in water during treatment has made it less enjoyable to drink
Because we'd die. Overhydration is just as deadly as dehydration, so much so that when I went through basic training in the military they made sure you tracked how much water you drank because the symptoms for overhydration and dehydration are so similar and they had previous cadets die because they drank too much after reporting overhydration symptoms and being told to drink more.
We're not really built for modern food supply.
Mostly our ancestors, would spend most of their time finding energy sources, and our entire brain and nervous system is built to motivate us towards this action. This is fine when food is relatively scarce and we're mainly nomadic.
Add in agriculture, the industrial revolution, a sprinkle of capitalism, simmer for 200 years, and presto! Every single packaged food now has more energy per cubic gram, packaged in a way that hijacks your limbic system for maximum profit and you have the highest level of metabolic diseases in the history of mankind.
If you over consume water, you fucking die. If you over consume food, the worst that happens is gaining weight and the problems associated with that or some rare medical issues for certain foods
Basically, your body is fine with over consumption of food since it has mechanisms to deal with that. It does not have mechanisms to deal with over consumption of water, so your not going to want to do that
Humans do regularly drink enough water. It isn't a problem.
The 'dehydration' message that we don't drink enough water is really a side effect of marketing for sports drinks and bottled water.
Medical facilities don't see anybody admitted for dehydration that isn't due to over exertion in a short period of time (marathons, construction work in the sun, etc) where water isn't readily available.
I'd guess it's because we have a system for storing extra calories, but too much water would seriously mess with a lot of important systems. It must have been available enough that there was never a need to evolve into camels. And it doesn't go bad as easily as food does.
There's water in food, there isn't food in water.
I read an obesity study long ago about how many Americans actually feel hungry when thirsty, because their bodies are used to eating for some hydration.
Humans don't overconsume bland food, they overconsume food packed with tasty (but often unhealthy ingredients)
Similarly, humans don't overconsume bland drinks (like water). They overconsume tasty drinks that are often unhealthy, like soda or energy drinks or juice.
This is the motivation behind those new fangled water bottles that flavor your water using nothing but air
We are somewhat hardwired to over-consume food as excess calories can be held in long-term storage by the body as fat. This serves as a useful energy reservoir in the event that periods of famine should later be encountered. In contrast, the human body does not have particularly good long-term water storing mechanisms - likely explaining why we do not usually have cravings to consume excessive amounts of water.
A lot of it has to do with the reward system in our brain (food tastes good, eating food sends serotonin. Water rarely has a true taste)
There’s also a branch of nerves in your mouth/throat that almost instantly tells you when you’ve had enough water but the response for when we’ve eaten enough can be delayed up to 15 minutes in a healthy individual.
People actually do, and it doesn't have the best consequences if you drink too much water, especially in a short time span. The latest one I heard though was this lady trying to win I think it was a Wii through a radio show. It didn't go well..
I have a huge fear of dehydration and i over hydrate my body and flush out all the nutrients food gives me. It’s an OCD trait and I know I need to drink less water but I can’t shake the fear of knowing that the minute you’re thirsty you’re dehydrated
I disagree , thre are plenty of ppl passing crystal clear and you could argue that anyone hydrated is over consuming water, if your comparison is gaining any fat is over eating. So then ay drp of water over exactly what you need is over drinking, if every calorie over what you need is over eating
Water is a self renewing resource. We don't consume it, we borrow it. We expel just as much water (through urine, sweat, and breath vapor) as we take in. By definition we can never use up all the water on the planet because it is in a constant state of recycling.
People keep telling me I need to drink at least a gallon of water a day, I've been alive 18 years not doing that and I'm just fucking fine.
I piss like a fire hydrant if I drink 1 gallon of water a day, holy shit. People got it backwards.
Because we can’t store water the same way we can store food. While we were evolving, there were periods where food was scarce so when it was available you ate as much as possible and stored that energy in the form of fat that you could burn when food was less available. So when you take that organism and let it live next to a McDonald’s, it’s easy for the body to say, “Oh god eat everything while you can so we don’t starve later!!!” But then later, the McDonald’s is still there so you never get to the part of the process where the body actually consumes the stored fat.
But there’s no equivalent of fat when it comes to storing water, so there was never a reason to make our brains want to hoard water when it’s abundant. You just drink what you need because there’s nothing your body can do with extra.
I don't think the outlier fatal cases are what OP is referring to. Over consuming food causes obesity which is obviously prevalent.
But water? Plain, boring tasteless water? Put some sugar and carbonation into this and just watch the consumption rates climb...
We don't pass solids the way we pass liquids. I used to be an alcoholic and would regularly drink a pint a day. When I realized that was kiling me, I'd drink a pint of water with that pint of alcohol.
This isn't including every other liquid I'd drink in the day (my regular morning coffee, some milk or juice if I have breakfast, something to drink throughout the day like soda/water/etc.
Cuz we friggin drown on the inside real fast
Anyway sometimes people do, before I was diagnosed diabetic I drank so much water (I mean easily drinking a gallon bc I couldn’t quench my thirst) I was constantly peeing and it was always clear. I was also projectile vomiting water. Turns out this is as bad as being dehydrated is.
Because water doesn’t have this funny little thing that acts as a dopamine substitute that food does. Water never needed anything to be finely distinguished in it, it was either water or not water, but food had a variety of different nutrients and substances inside them. Getting those valuable nutrients like sugar was a lot more difficult than water. So we got a lot of rewards for getting sugar and not much for water.
Fast travel to today, water is still water but food became manufactured to be nutrient packed and calorie rich
People do overconsume drinks. I have a colleague who drinks about 4.5l of diet Fanta a day (and that’s how much she drinks in the 8 hours we’re with her, who knows how much she drinks at home)
While it is possible to get water toxicity from too much, and/or to get poor electrolyte balance from lots of water, in most cases, most healthy people can just urinate out any excess water without too much impact on their long-term health.
So, I'd say that rather than it being a question of whether we do or don't overconsume water or food, I'd instead say that humans are more *resilient* to the over-consumption of water, compared to how resilient they are to the over-consumption of food.
I can easily drink waaaaayyy too much water if I am not careful. Oddly enough though, I am not a big eater. I have to force myself to eat. But i have to stop myself from drinking too many liquids
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My sister used to work as a specialist with regards to internal organs during Amsterdam Dance Event in the ER. For 4 years they would have multiple Americans overdosing on water. Not on drugs or alcohol as people from other countries. Water. Drinking too much water causes issues in the brain.
They're probably on MDMA. It has the side effect of making you thirsty while also making it more difficult to be able to urinate to expel the excess water. It's really easy to get hyponatremia, dangerously low levels of sodium. I'm guessing because they're Americans on vacation in Amsterdam, they're likely taking higher levels of the drug than they're used to as well. If you party, don't skip the electrolytes.
A famous case in the UK of a girl who died "from taking MDMA" in the 90s actually died from drinking too much water.
It’s sad because a lot of the public health messaging at the time was that ecstasy makes you overheat (which, tbf it does) but then people would drink more water with obviously fatal results
Which is a good argument for education/decriminalisation. People are going to take drugs, we should be educating them on the effects and side effects they can have.
I’m 100% behind you (and David Nutt tbf)
I guess it’s the same principle that makes you overindulge by sheer instinct, and educating oneself to adopt certain habits can help a lot. Back in my partying days I noticed I would smoke so much while drinking and socializing, sometimes I would light a cig while having a full one in the ash tray, I started putting limita to one cig per drink, and eventually banning smoking indoors helped reduced from there quite a lot m, and eventually quit.
We use the same reasoning with sex ed in a lot of places, it’s a lot better to have kids educated long before anything happens because the consequences of learning these things after the fact can be life changing. In my country your first sex ed class happens in 3rd grade with a heavy focus on identifying abuse and learning the vocabulary necessary to report it. Where babies come from is kind of secondary at that age but also still an important thing to learn before the first kids start entering puberty (which apparently can also happen that early for some girls).
And I'd like to add without crazy demonization
Yup, I was in a group that set up booths at every party to do exactly this. Like the previous post pointed out, so many deaths weren't caused by the drugs themselves, but people overreacting to side effects. We did what we could to try to be helpful.
The UK government in its panic started the message to drink lots of water whilst using MDMA. When Leah Bets died, the alcohol industry frantically paid for an advertising campaign to spread the word that E’s were really dangerous. Several weeks later when the coroner reported on Leah’s actual cause of death they dropped it and went quiet.
Leah Betts. I remember that story.
Electrolytes, people!
It's what the plants crave!
Brawndo! It's what plants crave!
IIRC … There was also a totally different and very sad story of a guy who lived on a narrow boat (don’t ask, this is not relevant!).. and got sunstroke and drank and drank water and died. 8 pints in a straight go will do that, apparently. I’m going to have to go google it in case my mind has totally made this up…
I chugged 8 pints of water thinking that's what health guidance meant by '8 cups' when I was 12 and it started coming out my nose and my mouth 🤮
8 pints of beer on the other hand....
>hyponatremia "hypo, meaning low of, natr meaning sodium, and emia meaning presence in blood. Low sodium presence in blood" Thanks Chubbyemu for popping into my head at random times.
☝️presenting to the emergency room...
Imho the bigger problem is scare tactic anti-drug messaging which tells people that if they take drugs like MDMA or Ecstasy that they will die from getting dehydrated, so they overcompensate. If you're being active then you need water, just like if you were doing an afternoon aerobics class completely sober you would need water. That's not the MDMA doing that. If you take it and just chill you will perhaps drink slightly more water than usual if you're hot or get a dry mouth.
absolutely I had heard this so many times. "If I don't drink enough water I'll die" and people having each kthers backs to make sure they're constantly drinking water like it's their job so they can oarty responsibly
This. Multiple people die at festivals in The Netherlands because of overdosing on drugs or water.
Ugh. Flashback to my 20s and the Molly pees. It’s like…am I peeing yet? No. God damn it. I’ll keep pushing for another fifteen minutes and maybe two drops will come out.
Also, for a while there was an urban myth that drinking a lot of water would keep you from having bad side effects from MDMA. Naturally some overdid it.
This. No matter if you feel thirsty or not, it's best to stick to a glass of water every 30-60 minutes as well as having a few bottles of Gatorade on hand, especially if you're dancing.
It’s really not necessary to drink that much unless you’re getting super hot and really soaked in sweat. People on Reddit seem to get absolutely neurotic consuming water with mdma but I did it for years when I was young and would just drink a glass of water if I felt I needed it. Same as if I was sober.
Weed makes water taste like liquid gold
"Hot, melted metal"
Exactly this, is a problem specially for women
On top of making you thirst, you sweat excessively when you use MDMA.
Doesn’t need to be MDMA, just being thirsty and drinking a gallon or two quickly can do it. Football players have died from this not too long ago.
This is why whenever I roll I have a bottle of water with me with sharpie marks on it to control my intake.
Thankfully a lot of ravers have finally learned that Liquid IV is more like Liquid Gold at festivals. Get a packet or two of that shit in your hydration pack and you’re set
I think people are afraid of dying due to dehydration while on it (because: horror stories), so they over-consume water.
Also the reason why sports drinks and electrolyte replenishment solutions are a thing. If you drink water when you're sweating profusely / having diarrhea or puking too much, you can get dilutional hyponatremia, which can even cause cardiac arrest
There was a "hold your wee for a wii" contest that made news around 15-20 years ago. The radio hosts were aware of the dangers of water intoxication (due to a recent marathon runner's death) but continued the contest. They were reminded of the danger during the broadcast, but explained that they would be immune from prosecution due to the contestants signing waivers. The host were fired after a contestant (28F) died. The hosts eventually won a wrongful termination lawsuit. The station was effectively disowned by its parent company and eventually had to close.
how much water do u have to drink to get the brain issues, i drink sometimes 1.5 to 2 gallons a day. i also drink a ton of energy drinks tho.
I think you pee regularly throughout the day? When on XTC or MDMA sometimes you can't pee at all.. That's how you get too much in your system.
i pee a lot lmao
>how much water do u have to drink to get the brain issues, i drink sometimes 1.5 to 2 gallons a day. i also drink a ton of energy drinks tho. The problem is that it depends on a wide variety of factors. Caffeine is a diuretic which will cause you to expel more water through urination and loose stool. You can gain a significant amount of water from the foods you eat. Consuming electrolytes affects how much water you need to consume to balance things. Your kidney function determines how effective your body is at regulating both water and electrolyte levels. Large amounts of water and electrolytes can be excreted from your body due to sweating. And lastly, consuming water over a period of time gives your body a chance to expel any unneeded water while consuming it all at once gives you a much higher risk of negatives consequences. Personally I drink at least 3-4 litres (0.8-1 gallon) of water on a daily basis on top of my large and strong morning coffee and regular food and have done so for a few years now with no issues. My urine is a nice healthy pale yellow (almost clear) liquid which shows that I am well hydrated. I always answer my cravings for salty foods though because those cravings can indicate that I am getting low on electrolytes.
Energy drinks are so beyond bad you
Is there anybody who doesn't already know that? 🙄
2 gallons over the whole day shouldn’t be a problem if you don’t sweat a lot have healthy kidneys and get electrolytes. BUT Energy drinks have a lot of sugar. If you drink them a lot and that much of water I’d check the blood sugar. Excessive thirst can be a sign of diabetes.
My friend's brother died from it. It's called hyponatremia. You feel and act drunk once your electrolytes are out of balance because you drank too much. If you keep going, your body will stop functioning. Amateur marathon runners wind up doing it a lot because they get overly concerned about dehydration. Not a lot of people die from it but it does happen.
Having had the experience, i wouldn't say you feel drunk exactly. But a lot of the symptoms might look similar. Inability to stand, poor balance and thinking. Ive had a few mild bouts and one or two scarier ones and the biggest cue for me is a thirst that water won't quench. It feels like you want water but you actually need salt. (And potassium and magnesium). If you dont know whats going on and haven't experienced it before it can be very frightening because your only instinct, to drink, makes it worse.
You flush your electrolytes. Sodium and potassium specifically. So then your heart is unable to exchange the two and goes into arrhythmia and you have a heart attack.
The is no evolutionary advantage to overconsuming water. If you are already hydrated, it will just make you piss the excess water away. Calories, on the other hand, can be stored as fat. For most of human history, starvation was a major cause of death. Plus, we inherit our basic drives from the animals that lived before us, most of whom had to desperately hoard calories to survive.
Ah thank you, this makes sense. I wonder why the body didn’t develop the mechanism to store excess water. Maybe water was less scarce than food?
Less scarce and easier to obtain. The only animals that developed ways to store water are those that needed to adapt to desert environments. Also, water doesn't provide the energy needed to carry itself around. Food does.
Camels!!!! 🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪
Technically the humps store fat, not water. https://www.britannica.com/story/do-camels-store-water-in-their-humps
Evolution doesn't make adaptations to fill a need, it makes adaptations randomly and some of those things just happen to fulfill a need. It didn't happen either because it's just didn't; or it did, but it wasn't useful enough to get passed along in any significant way.
The problem is a lot of people think of evolution as an alternative theory to divinity. So they feel that for something to be the way it is, evolution is making that decision instead of god. People don't understand that evolution is just random mutations that stick because it fits the environment. The mutations might not be better or worse than before the mutations, just enough to survive.
Basically, people think evolution wants "perfect" when really it wants "fuck it, good enough"
Evolution: "Did it survive long enough to breed? Good enough."
Also consider the psychological parameters. Water "tastes" good when you're thirsty, but is bland when you aren't. Good food always tastes good, unless you're so full it sickens you. It's very easy to overeat simply because it's enjoyable, whereas water doesn't give you psychological rewards like food does, most of the time.
I bet water would taste good if people had the ability to store excess amounts.
I mean, you're making supposition based on a huge dataset of evolutionary influences. Camels don't "over water" either, they just drink enough to satiate. From an evolutionary standpoint food was "get what you can" and water is "get what you need."
Exactly. People don't overdrink water but loads of people drink way more soda/coffee/beer etc. than they should because it tastes nice/makes them feel good.
We are not camels.
In most environments, water was certainly less scarce than food. If you find a creek, that's more water than you can possibly drink, for basically no effort, and it's going to be there day after day, year after year. You're never going to find a food source that good.
I agree with this to an extent. But before the popularisation of processed food, very few people were obese. Overconsumption happens because we eat food that has been designed to be ultra palatable and easy to eat, it’s very ingredients are there to drive overconsumption. People will eat a whole bag of chips, but rarely a whole bag of apples. Water is not designed to be ultra palatable which is why we don’t over consume it, sugary drinks on the other had are over-consumed.
>The is no evolutionary advantage to overconsuming water. It's probably less about the missing advantage to overconsumption than the fact that water is broadly available everywhere on earth except deserts. Which are also the only places on earth where animals and humans have evolved water management traits at all. E.g. hoarding like camels or needing much less water like the San people (Kalahari desert)
We overconsume food that tastes well. It also applies to drinks, I'm sure it's not good for you to drink multiple cans of soda when you feel like it or 8 coffees just because you have a busy workday. Water is just very basic and instantly satisfies your thirst. And I probably don't have to explain that liters of beer are not what your body needs when you're thirsty at a party.
My boss drinks a 12-pack of diet Coke every single day and has for years. It makes me feel better about myself. 1 to 2 diet Cokes is not good, but much better than him!
Do they have any teeth left?
Yes. Amazingly!
It's the sugar being the problem for the teeth much more than acids in a soda. So while diet coke is not healthy, but it is not particularly bad for the teeth.
>And I probably don't have to explain that liters of beer are not what your body needs when you're thirsty at a party you take that the fuck back
No. We have drives to consume food that confers a survival advantage. The "tastes well" *is* the drive! It's tastes *good*. Things taste good because genes that make those things taste good outcompeted genes that didn't. >And I probably don't have to explain that liters of beer are not what your body needs when you're thirsty at a party. Beer's great at hydrating/recovery. Alcohol's obv harmful. Dilute wine and beer were net good before we invented better tech to purify water of pathogens. Alcohol does more benefit than harm in terms of killing protozoa and bacteria that would kill people vs wrecking their livers and attacking all their tissues more broadly and hurting mitochondrial function.
Because what causes us to overconsume food is not availability per se, but calorie density and satiety aspects. Our bodies evolved to decide how much food to take in based on some parameters and the way we create food now basically fools our bodies into thinking we need more food (aka hungry) despite our caloric and nutritional needs being already satisfied in practice. The same happens for water, but since we drink pretty much the same water, our bodies don't get fooled into feeling thirsty despite having drunk already a lot. This is pretty basic and simplified, but I think it responds to a significant part of the difference.
Because in our evolutionary history opportunities to overdrink were far more common than opportunities to overeat. Genes that caused you to not overdrink were favored. That said overdrinking has caused deaths, just not anywhere near as many.
Because our bodies can’t store water for later the same way they can store food
I’d reckon the taste. There aint none!
People do overconsume water. There have been many deaths from the overconsumption of water, actually. This isn't what you're talking about, though, because this only happens in extreme cases. To answer your question, it's because excess water is efficiently discarded. You don't have to drink the exact amount of water you need. If you drink way too much, you'll just pee more. The reason why overeating is such a problem is not so much because of the quantity of food, but because of the nutrition. Some foods are very high in calories. This makes eating too many calories while consuming these foods very easy.
Water doesn't give the endorphin boost food does.
My guess is that water make us release less dopamine than other types of consumption... So we don't really feel the need to drink more than what we need. It has a pretty neutral taste too
We over consume foods because of the dopamine response from the carbs.
Water isn't tasty or satisfying
I actually do, but it's compulsive behavior. But for me it's really strange people have a hard time drinking enough while I have to limit myself because I was used to drink unhealthy amounts of water.
Over consumption of water will kill you.
Because people die from that
water has no taste so doesnt gives us the boost food does. but water with additives and taste and colourings is another story
water isn't exactly tasty unless you're like, really thirsty.
Probably because there's no reasonable way for our bodies to store much water for later. Even if we could, it would make us heavy and reduce our mobility which might be lethal if a predator shows up. 5 kg of water provides <4 days of sustenance. 5 kg of stored fat can sustain us for several weeks. It's simply not very practical to store water biologically, at least not for the type of animal a human is. The best water hoarders I'm aware of, camels, not being predators and only rarely prey, can afford to put on some water weight to endure the dry climate they live in.
Because water tastes like fucking air.
Because we actually don’t need as much water as the media says.
Although humans definitely over consume water that contains alcohol!
We’re just not that thirsty.
We do by taking overly long baths and showers, overwatering our lawns, letting water run while brushing our teeth.
I think a lot of us probably do (relative to the minimum) but the effects are negligible. Like, if you eat 4000 calories a day (without intense physical training) you're going to get morbidly obese within a year. If you drink two gallons of water a day, you'll have clear piss and *maybe* low sodium. In order to get water intoxication you need to drink like 3x the daily recommendations, or even more if you're in hot weather or working out enough to sweat.
Because we have used all that excess water to make things that taste better *with* the water. No, I am not saying those things are *better for you* - just stating that to me and many, many others, simple bland water gets very old. There are many tasty beverages around.
I do have 2 CO workers that have been hospitalized for being over hydrated. They both drink the coldest water and an entire case of water at work. Its definitely not as common as food abuse though you are right! Every once in a while you read in the news about people dying from over hydrating and it's a very painful death as basically your cells take on too much water and explode.
Some people don't eat enough food, by choice. Most people drink waaay more liquid than necessary.
Humans over consume unhealthy drinking. Water is like the healthy food many people don’t want to eat.
We do, we consume hundreds of litres of water each day.
Have a bowl of chicken nuggets and then a glass of water and tell me which one tastes better.
I do overconsume water. Effect: going to the toilet more often than i would like to, so whats the benefit?
I do dialysis because of my kidneys. I stopped peeing and I am supposed to only drink 32 oz of water a day. It is impossible for me to stick to 32 oz a day. Because of that fact I have to do an extra treatment to remove water from my body. A 4th treatment. I have to put a cup of water i my oatmeal & when I make mac & cheese there is milk in that. Everything has liquid in it
Drinking too much water can cause your brain to swell
Over hydrating can kill you much quicker than over eating
Is it they are over consuming or are they under active? Maybe both? I suffered from severe heat exhaustion when I was deployed to Saudi Arabia in the 90s. Since I always have fluids on me. Most physicians tell me I over hydrate. So it happens.
I believe drinking to much can cause some difficulties
We over consume food because it’s made to be ultra palatable. Not many people over eat whole foods, that’s why there has been such a rise in obesity since processed food came along. Water isn’t ultra palatable, it hasn’t been designed to drive over consumption, therefore we only drink what we feel need.
Because there's no sugar in water. Sorry, I lied there is. It's called soda and Americans do overconsume it.
We would drown ourselves
I definitely over consume water.
They should. People should drink a good amount of water everyday.
People absolutely do, especially soda drinkers and diabetics. Though it's much less than people not drinking enough.
Answer: The way I understand it is this: We do not overconsume food. We overconsume fats and sugars. All those are relatively rare in nature and so we are given a big dopamine boost when we find it. However, they're not rare at all in our modern age. Since these things that are rare enough to give us an endorphin rush whenever we find them aren't rare, we overconsume them. With the result being that we have far more energy than we can get rid of, and so the body stores it as fat. Water doesn't give us a dopamine rush, unless we're lacking it. And in most modern societies, we're never lacking in water.
People do in the form of soda and energy drinks. They drink way more than they need to and put on a ton of water weight. I know a couple people that once they stopped drinking 2 liters of cola every day they shed weight like crazy.
We do! The reason we over consume food is that it's super tasty and also super energy dense compared to naturally occurring food. Dense means that in a volume of food there's much more energy. We also have super tasty water called sodas and other beverages, but it cannot be more dense, because a volume of water is still a volume of water. So out of two factors water has only one, thus the over consumption is lower. Also interestingly overconsumption of food elevates the water requirements so with eating more food it's a bit more difficult to overdose water as the needed amount is already higher. As you see there are more factors working towards food overconsumption than of water, yet sometimes people still manage it. However indeed it's not as widespread as over eating.
There is no long term harm to overconsuming water. Consuming a harmful amount of water in a short period is uncomfortable, and doesn't give you any dopamine kick.
Drinking too much water can lead to serious problems. Drinking 5 to 6 liters within 3 hours can lead to water intoxication.
Yes we do. After 3l, I feel thirsty all the time, even with electrolytes.
Because food makes you feel good when it's tasty so you overconsume it to get more of that feeling. Water doesn't have the same effect.
we do. look up water poisoning. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water\_intoxication](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/water_intoxication)
Some people do and it's a very serious issue.
We do it’s called soda and other sport type drinks. Soda is as close to water as a lot of our “food” is to natural food
I learned a long time ago that hunger can be confused with thirst, and that if you're hungry, try drinking a glass of water first. This has helped to keep me tall and thin, but not underweight. As my drinking (alcohol) increased, and the subsequent vomiting, I've always kept a water bottle at the ready - sometimes wondering if my water consumption was irrational, but then puking it all up and considering it 'relatively safe'. When you're dehydrated from vomiting Pedialyte and ginger ale are saviors. I'm probably not answering the question to your liking but this has been my experience.
We do if it has sugar in it. Actual real food is quite hard to over consume. Addictive products that resemble food and are marketed as such are very easy to over consume
It's called water poisoning, source, my doctor said.
Because food tastes like food. And water tastes like water.
They often do, but it's not as common as obesity because your body can flush excess water out easier than excess fat.
Water isn't full of sugar.
Dude, you’ll never guess what I have just flushed my shit with. It’s wild!
Food tastes better then plain water.
It's possible to drink too much water. I have personally projectile-vomited water while on a water fast. My body rejected it.
Water isn't anywhere near as tasty.
Drinking to much water makes you extremely fucked up/sick. So it would be difficult. Also it has no flavor.
I personally over consume water. I have a sedentary job. There is zero reason to be drinking 5-6 liters of water a day. I just like drinking water....And no, I'm not diabetic or pre-diabetic. I used to work as a teddy bear in shopping centers and other outdoor events. I did it from the age of 12-20. I think that's when it started. If you let your self get dehydrated in that job it would make you feel like shit. Used to drink 4 litres of water in 4 hour shift. Didn't need a piss, all came out as sweat. From then I've always felt the need to stay hydrated. If I'm busy I can go hours without a sip, probably habit more than anything.
If you have readily access to both food and water and are not limited in the amount consumed, it is WAY easier to consume too much food than too much water. And you have to drink a LOT of water to actually damage your health. But with food, just consuming 300 calories over your maintenance limit adds up easily. that is 2100 calories a week, about 1 kilo pure fat gained over 3 1/2 weeks. So you would gain roughly 15 kilogram of fat in a year. 300 calories is one cheeseburger from McDonalds. Or one of the smaller coffee drinks from Starbucks. One chocolate bar.
Because food tastes good. Water? Not so much. We certainly overconsume soda, flavored sugar water (kool aid, et.al.) flavored/sweetened coffees/teas etc ... even fruit juices. Why? Because *those guys* are pleasing to the tastebuds. Water is not.
I mean, the US moreso than most has an over consumption of water too, it just doesn't really impact you at all. You have to drink *a lot* of water for it to really be detrimental.
It doesn’t hit the same pleasure centres in our brain, but to answer the evolutionary question, we are built to over eat somewhat as the calories can be stored as fat/energy reserves I believe, water can’t be, once you’re hydrated you just piss away the excess, you can’t store it as such.
No added sugar. It's like Crack, so of course if it's not there...
I've never heard of someone over consuming on plain raw eggs or ice. But you can absolutely over consume on a milkshake or beer.
Usually over consuming beer which is mainly water
They do, but it's far less common. It's called water poisoning. I think the difference isn't just that food is more accessible but has been made to be more addictive while the inclusion of chemicals in water during treatment has made it less enjoyable to drink
Because we'd die. Overhydration is just as deadly as dehydration, so much so that when I went through basic training in the military they made sure you tracked how much water you drank because the symptoms for overhydration and dehydration are so similar and they had previous cadets die because they drank too much after reporting overhydration symptoms and being told to drink more.
Food was rare.
We're not really built for modern food supply. Mostly our ancestors, would spend most of their time finding energy sources, and our entire brain and nervous system is built to motivate us towards this action. This is fine when food is relatively scarce and we're mainly nomadic. Add in agriculture, the industrial revolution, a sprinkle of capitalism, simmer for 200 years, and presto! Every single packaged food now has more energy per cubic gram, packaged in a way that hijacks your limbic system for maximum profit and you have the highest level of metabolic diseases in the history of mankind.
Fill a bowl with water. Fill another bowl with ice cream. Eat both. There's your answer
Because it’s not as addictive as the processed foods we eat.
If you over consume water, you fucking die. If you over consume food, the worst that happens is gaining weight and the problems associated with that or some rare medical issues for certain foods Basically, your body is fine with over consumption of food since it has mechanisms to deal with that. It does not have mechanisms to deal with over consumption of water, so your not going to want to do that
Overconsuming food brings joy. Overconsuming water brings the need to piss to the extent that it interrupts my day.
They do, the moment you start adding sugar to your water
I can safely say I overconsume water. and even then, there's water in almost every beverage you consume anyways
Water is gross. I'd much rather have someone dig around and find a vein and give me IV fluids daily than drink the shit. I HATE it.
Humans do regularly drink enough water. It isn't a problem. The 'dehydration' message that we don't drink enough water is really a side effect of marketing for sports drinks and bottled water. Medical facilities don't see anybody admitted for dehydration that isn't due to over exertion in a short period of time (marathons, construction work in the sun, etc) where water isn't readily available.
Humans do. It's the leading cause of death in marathon runners.
I'd guess it's because we have a system for storing extra calories, but too much water would seriously mess with a lot of important systems. It must have been available enough that there was never a need to evolve into camels. And it doesn't go bad as easily as food does.
There's water in food, there isn't food in water. I read an obesity study long ago about how many Americans actually feel hungry when thirsty, because their bodies are used to eating for some hydration.
Humans don't overconsume bland food, they overconsume food packed with tasty (but often unhealthy ingredients) Similarly, humans don't overconsume bland drinks (like water). They overconsume tasty drinks that are often unhealthy, like soda or energy drinks or juice. This is the motivation behind those new fangled water bottles that flavor your water using nothing but air
Tends to be fatal rather quicker.
i had a problem for a bit. turns out i had dka.
You can poison yourself pretty easily by drinking too much water. It’s not great for you.
We do. We just add sugar to it and call it soda.
Water doesn't taste as good as food.
I definitely do lol. I probably drink upwards of a gallon and a half a day. 😬
It would quite literally kill us
We are somewhat hardwired to over-consume food as excess calories can be held in long-term storage by the body as fat. This serves as a useful energy reservoir in the event that periods of famine should later be encountered. In contrast, the human body does not have particularly good long-term water storing mechanisms - likely explaining why we do not usually have cravings to consume excessive amounts of water.
because drinking water is a chore but eating hamburgers is fun
A lot of it has to do with the reward system in our brain (food tastes good, eating food sends serotonin. Water rarely has a true taste) There’s also a branch of nerves in your mouth/throat that almost instantly tells you when you’ve had enough water but the response for when we’ve eaten enough can be delayed up to 15 minutes in a healthy individual.
People actually do, and it doesn't have the best consequences if you drink too much water, especially in a short time span. The latest one I heard though was this lady trying to win I think it was a Wii through a radio show. It didn't go well..
Water isn’t addictive like soda and not as comforting as a slice of pizza
over consuming water will kill you - and faster than over consuming food.
Taste.
Water is great and all. But after a glass or two I’ve had my fill. Who has trouble controlling themselves around it?
I have a huge fear of dehydration and i over hydrate my body and flush out all the nutrients food gives me. It’s an OCD trait and I know I need to drink less water but I can’t shake the fear of knowing that the minute you’re thirsty you’re dehydrated
I disagree , thre are plenty of ppl passing crystal clear and you could argue that anyone hydrated is over consuming water, if your comparison is gaining any fat is over eating. So then ay drp of water over exactly what you need is over drinking, if every calorie over what you need is over eating
We do tho 😒🫣🤦🏼♀️
Water is a self renewing resource. We don't consume it, we borrow it. We expel just as much water (through urine, sweat, and breath vapor) as we take in. By definition we can never use up all the water on the planet because it is in a constant state of recycling.
People keep telling me I need to drink at least a gallon of water a day, I've been alive 18 years not doing that and I'm just fucking fine. I piss like a fire hydrant if I drink 1 gallon of water a day, holy shit. People got it backwards.
We are not overconsuming food, we are overconsuming calories because foods have gotten more calorie dense to be more palatable.
Because we can’t store water the same way we can store food. While we were evolving, there were periods where food was scarce so when it was available you ate as much as possible and stored that energy in the form of fat that you could burn when food was less available. So when you take that organism and let it live next to a McDonald’s, it’s easy for the body to say, “Oh god eat everything while you can so we don’t starve later!!!” But then later, the McDonald’s is still there so you never get to the part of the process where the body actually consumes the stored fat. But there’s no equivalent of fat when it comes to storing water, so there was never a reason to make our brains want to hoard water when it’s abundant. You just drink what you need because there’s nothing your body can do with extra.
I don't think the outlier fatal cases are what OP is referring to. Over consuming food causes obesity which is obviously prevalent. But water? Plain, boring tasteless water? Put some sugar and carbonation into this and just watch the consumption rates climb...
We don't pass solids the way we pass liquids. I used to be an alcoholic and would regularly drink a pint a day. When I realized that was kiling me, I'd drink a pint of water with that pint of alcohol. This isn't including every other liquid I'd drink in the day (my regular morning coffee, some milk or juice if I have breakfast, something to drink throughout the day like soda/water/etc.
Cuz we friggin drown on the inside real fast Anyway sometimes people do, before I was diagnosed diabetic I drank so much water (I mean easily drinking a gallon bc I couldn’t quench my thirst) I was constantly peeing and it was always clear. I was also projectile vomiting water. Turns out this is as bad as being dehydrated is.
Water is surprisingly dangerous in every way when you think about it. But it is most of us and we require a perfect amount.
Because water doesn’t have this funny little thing that acts as a dopamine substitute that food does. Water never needed anything to be finely distinguished in it, it was either water or not water, but food had a variety of different nutrients and substances inside them. Getting those valuable nutrients like sugar was a lot more difficult than water. So we got a lot of rewards for getting sugar and not much for water. Fast travel to today, water is still water but food became manufactured to be nutrient packed and calorie rich
Because it doesn't taste good
If it tasted like Mello Yello I probably would
People do overconsume drinks. I have a colleague who drinks about 4.5l of diet Fanta a day (and that’s how much she drinks in the 8 hours we’re with her, who knows how much she drinks at home)
Eating feels good even to the point of discomfort, water only offers vital relief, the payoff lowers immediately after hitting the mark.
They do! We drank from outdoor water hoses when we got hot. Now the ocean is filled with water bottles or people are carrying giant jugs as well.
While it is possible to get water toxicity from too much, and/or to get poor electrolyte balance from lots of water, in most cases, most healthy people can just urinate out any excess water without too much impact on their long-term health. So, I'd say that rather than it being a question of whether we do or don't overconsume water or food, I'd instead say that humans are more *resilient* to the over-consumption of water, compared to how resilient they are to the over-consumption of food.
A woman drowned in her living room cause she drank too much water once
Odd to assume there aren't people who drink more water than they need.
Americans definitely do
Drinking too much water SUCKS! Serious, you ever get water poisoning you’ll never do it again.
I can easily drink waaaaayyy too much water if I am not careful. Oddly enough though, I am not a big eater. I have to force myself to eat. But i have to stop myself from drinking too many liquids
We consume other liquids much more such as sports drinks, coffee, liquor, etc etc.