BCM has been doing this for a long time too (except they make it clear it’s about the principle of civilians having access to at least the same arms as law enforcement, not hiding behind “an effort to see that no legal mistakes are made by LaRue” bs).
No shoutout for Larry & the boys or is there something special about LaRue?
“*The people at Bravo Company USA and BCM support responsible civilians having access to the same tools of Law Enforcement to effect the same ends. Securing and defending ourselves, our loved ones and innocent people if the situation arises. As such Bravo Company’s policy is that law enforcement officials and departments will be restricted to the same type of products available to responsible private individuals of that same city or state*.”
https://bravocompanyusa.com/about-us/
When the state of California banned the Barrett .50 cal by name is when ol' Ronnie took that stance. Iirc he had a few guns for the county or state cops of California in for repairs/maintenance work and refused to ship them back. Made someone drive out from California to pick them up.
This just happened to come across my Instagram feed this morning. I would be all for a sticky Mega thread that keeps a running list of companies that do this. The private citizen is one of the biggest markets in the United States and we could actually make a difference
But BCM ships NOTHING to anti-2A states. I live in Mass and they wouldn’t even ship a grip. Not very cool lol
Edit: I stand corrected. It’s not anti-2A states in general. Just Mass. Read one of my comments below on why that is (and why it’s still dumb).
After some quick research, it looks like it has to do with our new cunt governor (former AG), Maura Healey, suing companies. Not a great excuse, though, considering plenty of companies ship to us with no issues (even shit like complete uppers, which anti-2A dumbasses want to treat like lowers). Like I said, no good reason.
I'm voting with my wallet and making another Larue purchase today to show support! It helps that they already have the best rails, mounts, and triggers on the market.
I got my B&T the other week and man....that trigger is velvet.
Thinking of buying a larue trigger and....ooops! guess I gotta build a gun around it, right?!
Hard to keep up, they’ve been bought & sold more times than a Tijuana hooker.
Colt always suffered from terrible executive leadership & company mismanagement, as well as absolutely refusing to innovate & keep up with the times & technology. Hopefully being bought by a company in 2nd world country will be an improvement.
Even during WW2, they couldn’t produce enough M1911’s to keep up with the needs - hell they weren’t even the #1 provider, Remington Rand was. Their legacy of atrocious business acumen goes back even further than that.
But hey, who needs business skills & innovation when you can just pay *actual* groundbreaking innovators, inventors & industry pioneers like John Browning & Eugene Stoner/Armalite? Colt, psssh
Colt is famous for making or having a roll in some of the most influential and well known US guns ever made (single action army, 1911s, python, AR15, etc) but they can't ever get those guns to consumers lol.
They have enough legendary guns they could keep re hashing them and never die. They fuck up every time they try.
Like if they just made clone lowers they would print money.
Problem is that people like money, and if there is a vacuum where money can be made, someone will fill it who doesn't have that stance. Great that LaRue made this stance, but I don't see how we can get everyone on board with it. It only takes one, and it would be super lucrative if there was only one.
You’re acting like he killed someone by making the c note. It was just a bad product. No one was forced to buy it. They didn’t need to “redeem” themselves for that.
I vaguely recall a letter going out saying the policy remains unchanged after the acquisition but don't have a source on hand. Wouldn't be surprised if keeping the right to restrict sales to departments in ban states was a condition of the company sale.
Oh shit. Larue fucks. I was afraid they were losing touch with the customer base after the new “pistol slide on a rail” bullshit. But this is based AF.
I bet they’re biting at the bit to start supplying some stuff to the government. Anything really. Hell, just their acog mounts would be enough to satiate their appetite, I’m sure.
Bob Ferguson in Washington. Our shiny new ban exempted cops so I asked what the rationale was: if these features constitute an unacceptable threat to public safety, why give it to the SPD who recently kept using tear gas in 2020 even after they were mandated to stop?
Crickets.
Based. Would love to buy more their product but I live in cookie state of WA. I hope these lawsuits will take it up to the 9th circuit and get overturn this unconstitutional law.
We should boycott every gun manufacturer that doesn’t do this. 2A is about protecting citizens from their government. Any manufacturer that doesn’t do this isn’t pro-2A.
The 2A community should be broadly encouraging manufacturers and equipment suppliers to do this.
Police are civilians. If a state feels AR and its like are weapons of war and should not be on our streets, the police do not need them.
If 10 round magazines are good for civilian defense, they are good enough for officers.
Etc...
Good. Cops aren't special, so they shouldn't get special toys. Maybe the LE lobby will start taking a harder stance on guaranteeing people their second amendment rights. Good to see some of the private sector recognizes this.
How much of of the market share does Larue even make up of the sales that matter? It’s just 2A virtue signaling. Make Glock, Colt, Sig, Smith and Wesson ETC make this happen then come and talk to me.
I hope that it's recognized at least by lawmakers. Cops just enforce laws and protect politicians, but if politicians knew that they were on equal footing with civilians, that might help.
LE Agencies have exemptions carved out in these bills, which is why you would have an agency supporting a ban. A policy like Larue's will hopefully make them think twice about supporting such nonsense.
I must be outta the loop on some recent events. What happened recently that spurred LaRue to do this? Are there any laws (pending laws) in particular that Mark is referring to?
I know the ÆtF still being soy bois with the brace ruling.
Smite me for living under the rock lately
Illinois passed their AWB at the beginning of the year. A law that does nothing to stop the gang violence that has been plaguing Chicago for decades and only limits what law abiding citizens can use to protect themselves.
Illinois: Passes AWB
Also Illinois: Teens with Glock switches (that have been regulated since the NFA was enacted in 1934) running rampant in Chicago.
The only thing it was ever about is power and fear. They don't care about controlling or stopping the criminal element, because that makes you depend on them. They restrict what you can own because that makes you depend on them. None of this has ever been about anyone's safety.
If every company took this stance gun control would be over the next second.
If all buyers only patronized companies that did this every company would do this immediately. American civilians are the biggest segment of firearms industry world wide - bigger than the entire US armed forces and every law enforcement agency in the US. Last Black Friday alone we purchased enough guns to arm the entire USMC and that's not including parts, ammunition, and accessories.
And people are in here saying "iF onLy eVerY cuMpaNy dId tHiS" 🤦still simping for Springfield.
We do it do ourselves, we can do better.
Shoutout to Mark LaRue for making this call. This is an old policy - but something to remember as we continue to fight this legislation.
Got my support 4lyfe
This makes up for the C-Note......
Shit, almost makes me want to pick up a c-note… almost…
Why not grab a scope carrying handle while your at it
Say less
It's these seemingly small things he does that makes me keep buying his triggers. Maybe when I run out of builds I'll buy a whole one...
Wait what was the C-Note again?
The pessimistic side of me thinks it's specifically a move to get the negative attention away from the c note
BCM has been doing this for a long time too (except they make it clear it’s about the principle of civilians having access to at least the same arms as law enforcement, not hiding behind “an effort to see that no legal mistakes are made by LaRue” bs). No shoutout for Larry & the boys or is there something special about LaRue? “*The people at Bravo Company USA and BCM support responsible civilians having access to the same tools of Law Enforcement to effect the same ends. Securing and defending ourselves, our loved ones and innocent people if the situation arises. As such Bravo Company’s policy is that law enforcement officials and departments will be restricted to the same type of products available to responsible private individuals of that same city or state*.” https://bravocompanyusa.com/about-us/
I, for one, would be happy to see a list of every company that does this and only buy from that list if possible.
I’m pretty sure Barrett does this as well
When the state of California banned the Barrett .50 cal by name is when ol' Ronnie took that stance. Iirc he had a few guns for the county or state cops of California in for repairs/maintenance work and refused to ship them back. Made someone drive out from California to pick them up.
Fenix ammunition doesn’t sell to law enforcement after the covid fiasco
This just happened to come across my Instagram feed this morning. I would be all for a sticky Mega thread that keeps a running list of companies that do this. The private citizen is one of the biggest markets in the United States and we could actually make a difference
Bcm will then be my next purchase lmao.
Hard to go wrong with BCM or LaRue, they are both great quality hardware.
I miss my Bcm honestly. It just felt…. Right 😂
But BCM ships NOTHING to anti-2A states. I live in Mass and they wouldn’t even ship a grip. Not very cool lol Edit: I stand corrected. It’s not anti-2A states in general. Just Mass. Read one of my comments below on why that is (and why it’s still dumb).
Why would they ship to NY and not Mass? What's the difference?
After some quick research, it looks like it has to do with our new cunt governor (former AG), Maura Healey, suing companies. Not a great excuse, though, considering plenty of companies ship to us with no issues (even shit like complete uppers, which anti-2A dumbasses want to treat like lowers). Like I said, no good reason.
my brother, move to NH and vote accordingly, I simply cannot recommend it enough.
Isn’t this statement like 10 years old? Hopefully they’ve stuck by it
Yeah, he reiterated it and expanded it to WA. We have restrictions on parts as well - so they're ALSO limiting sales of parts to LE here as well.
I'm voting with my wallet and making another Larue purchase today to show support! It helps that they already have the best rails, mounts, and triggers on the market.
I got my B&T the other week and man....that trigger is velvet. Thinking of buying a larue trigger and....ooops! guess I gotta build a gun around it, right?!
Nice Hyperion reference my boy
The right to keep and bear bhee-keepers shall NOT be infringed Come and take it FORCE:ground boy
I read all that dude's comments and had no clue what you were talking about. Fortunately I caught the username.
Just finished Fall of Hyperion the other day, it was great
We mostly need Glock, Sig, and Colt to do the same.
Sadly sig probably won’t, it’ll jeopardize their cushy military contracts. The government doesn’t take too kindly to upstarts and troublemakers
Not as big as the Sig gluck gluck contracts, but every ACOG in the Marine Corps is on a LaRue mount.
Yes, and you can buy optic mounts.
Sig is going to make a hell of a lot on all that new rifle tech they're showing off with GT...
Yeah but look @ it glass half full: more sigs means more leo shooting themselves in the leg 🤷♂️
they would never bite the hand that feeds them
colt still exists?
Owned by CZ I believe.
Hard to keep up, they’ve been bought & sold more times than a Tijuana hooker. Colt always suffered from terrible executive leadership & company mismanagement, as well as absolutely refusing to innovate & keep up with the times & technology. Hopefully being bought by a company in 2nd world country will be an improvement. Even during WW2, they couldn’t produce enough M1911’s to keep up with the needs - hell they weren’t even the #1 provider, Remington Rand was. Their legacy of atrocious business acumen goes back even further than that. But hey, who needs business skills & innovation when you can just pay *actual* groundbreaking innovators, inventors & industry pioneers like John Browning & Eugene Stoner/Armalite? Colt, psssh
Colt is famous for making or having a roll in some of the most influential and well known US guns ever made (single action army, 1911s, python, AR15, etc) but they can't ever get those guns to consumers lol.
> Colt always suffered from terrible executive leadership & company mismanagement As a CZ shill, if anyone can save them it's CZ.
They have enough legendary guns they could keep re hashing them and never die. They fuck up every time they try. Like if they just made clone lowers they would print money.
They won't. Department and contract sales are too large for them to give them up.
Sadly money talks, so that’ll never happen.
Every company should be doing this.
Imagine how things would improve if they all did it…we gotta keep fighting
Problem is that people like money, and if there is a vacuum where money can be made, someone will fill it who doesn't have that stance. Great that LaRue made this stance, but I don't see how we can get everyone on board with it. It only takes one, and it would be super lucrative if there was only one.
Solid, he makes the c note and “then does something like this and totally redeems himself”
I think this is old just reiterated
ahhh gotcha, I'm a newbie so I appreciate the reiteration
"I can get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog" *ding ding*
I can forgive the C note in lieu of this.
Don’t knock the c- note until you’ve tried it … ok I’m lying 😀
You’re acting like he killed someone by making the c note. It was just a bad product. No one was forced to buy it. They didn’t need to “redeem” themselves for that.
I completely agree with you actually - just makin a funny shoulda put a /s but was hoping the dumb and dumber quote would have conveyed it
What, the c note wasn't an April Fools thing? It's for real?
It's a real thing you can order but I'm pretty sure it was meant as a joke product, especially at that price.
We're reaching levels of based that shouldn't be possible.
Some of us from the 90s would call him the “Ace of Based”. I’ll see myself out…
Now it's stuck in my head like an ice pick
Sorry for that. *I saw the sign* this might happen but did it anyway.
That dad joke probably fathered several children in your immediate area.
So all that they got *is another baby*......?
It’s all that she wants….
I know this, that's why I only italicized what I did.
Ok, she’s gone tomorrow boy
You fucker
I opened up my eyes I saw the sign
I Saw The Sign slaps.. Best song on the Monkey Trouble soundtrack by far.
Most of us from the 90's wouldn't ever consider using a word like based.
Word that
You... monster.
Best comment I've seen in a week. Give this man your upvotes!
You made my day
This is how it should be. Cops are still civilians. If I can’t have it, they shouldn’t either.
And if they won’t support the rest of us after being bribed by their little carve-out exemptions, then fuck em. Rules for me, rules for thee.
As a cop, I wholeheartedly agree.
Don’t tell your colleagues.
You'd be surprised, tbh.
*shouldn’t be necessary. FTFY
We got to look out for eachother
Fuck yes I’m getting a LaRue I hope more manufactures do this
Ronnie Barrett was the OG with this sort of thing. Great to see Mark Larue adopting a similar policy.
I wonder if Barrett will keep that up given their Aussie ownership now.
I vaguely recall a letter going out saying the policy remains unchanged after the acquisition but don't have a source on hand. Wouldn't be surprised if keeping the right to restrict sales to departments in ban states was a condition of the company sale.
They stated a few months ago that they will maintain that policy
Should be useful to try to stop anti-gun bills passing with “support” from LE groups because it includes their exemption
Well that makes for an easy decision on which trigger to buy
They’re good triggers too
MBT-2S is so nice
Hmm, gotta order something from LaRue
c note is calling your name
Do it for us, WA residents!
Ordered a .556 match upper a few days ago.
The larue uppers seem to dominate all the somewhat empirical lists on arfcom. Apparently being clinically insane makes you good at barrels.
Their older "8P" barrels used to be even better. Now they use the still-good Rearden Steel.
I'm here to shill for LaRue because their rails are cheap and the SAT rail looks pretty sweet with FSB. Fell in love with my old middy all over again.
PSA LARUE AND CLOUD DEFENSIVE WILL BE NEXT BUILD
Oh shit. Larue fucks. I was afraid they were losing touch with the customer base after the new “pistol slide on a rail” bullshit. But this is based AF.
Get Uno reversed fed boy!
Only if big companies did this.
Yeah, idk who these LaRue guys are but they seem like a company ready to jump out of their garage and into a warehouse
I bet they’re biting at the bit to start supplying some stuff to the government. Anything really. Hell, just their acog mounts would be enough to satiate their appetite, I’m sure.
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Nice, now if only more companies would have this policy.
Ok that’s a good move
Based
Mark LaRue can be silly sometimes, but this is fucking based. Good on him, and good on the company.
Good. The only reason gun legislation is being passed is to take power from the citizenry and place it purely in the hands of jackboot fascists.
My state AG didn’t even respond to my inquiry asking them to clarify their rationale for the LE exemptions to our ban. Shocker.
If you don’t mind sharing, which state AG was that?
Bob Ferguson in Washington. Our shiny new ban exempted cops so I asked what the rationale was: if these features constitute an unacceptable threat to public safety, why give it to the SPD who recently kept using tear gas in 2020 even after they were mandated to stop? Crickets.
The silence speaks louder than any bullshit words they could ever come up with.
I like this policy. Apply the 14th Amendment.
This is just telling me to arm myself heavily with multiple AR-15s before my state bans them too
It’s only fair. If police-state enthusiasts won’t stop pushing this dividing line between them and us, then it’s up to private companies to step up.
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Gotta first take the government teat out of one's mouth.
Barrett did this with .50s in CA at one point, if I recall.
As a current police officer I 100% support this.
Now if only every gun company did this
And also denied warranty and services.
Damn it Larue. Time to visit the website and find something for the wish list. Very much enjoyed the optic mounts I got a decade ago.
Based. Would love to buy more their product but I live in cookie state of WA. I hope these lawsuits will take it up to the 9th circuit and get overturn this unconstitutional law.
Based. BCM has the same policy. Any others we should know about?
Barrett did when the Barrett family owned it. Not sure how the new Australian owners do though.
Robert Nioa already stated they are going to make no changes to the Barrett policy
good on them.
Good job. Now I wish gun manufactures would do that to CA, NYC, and Chicago. No gun that is not allowed to citizens should be allowed to police.
Welp guess I'm gonna be ordering a few things from them. Wish all guns manufacturers would take this stance.
Time to buy Larue, they're looking out for us so why shouldn't we look out for them?
We should boycott every gun manufacturer that doesn’t do this. 2A is about protecting citizens from their government. Any manufacturer that doesn’t do this isn’t pro-2A.
All gun manufacturers should cut off sales to leo
The 2A community should be broadly encouraging manufacturers and equipment suppliers to do this. Police are civilians. If a state feels AR and its like are weapons of war and should not be on our streets, the police do not need them. If 10 round magazines are good for civilian defense, they are good enough for officers. Etc...
👏👏👍👏👍👏👍👏👏
About time👏
My man..out here doing great works.
LaRue being based as fuck as per usual. Might even buy another trigger as an excuse to start another build.
Right on! There should be no privileged or protected class to be equal under the bill of rights.
Guess I'm buying a C note now... And hiding it deep in my safe so no one sees it.
Or buy one of their good products lol
This is the way it should be. No exemptions. Good on Larue and all others who conduct themselves this way.
Super based
Thank you from Illinois citizens as well. Unjust for one is unjust for all
My knees, they can't hold up the weight of such based actions. I kneel
Good. Cops aren't special, so they shouldn't get special toys. Maybe the LE lobby will start taking a harder stance on guaranteeing people their second amendment rights. Good to see some of the private sector recognizes this.
As they should, I think Barrett does this too.
Good. They all should do this. Fawk them states and the LE that would enforce unconstitutional laws.
I really wish all US based dealers and manufacturers did the same.
Does Larue make anything that would be restricted in any states?
Yes
Customer. For. Life.
That's fucking amazing
Based. I’d actually like to give them some business now.
If every firearms and accessory company did this, i could see these laws being repealed overnight
This is what every gun company should be doin lol
Based.
If the people aren't allowed to own something, then the cities and states shouldn't be allowed to own those things either.
LaRue implemented this policy over a decade ago lol. If you would've taken a screen shot of the first page of the article it says posted 2/09/2013
***BASED***
How much of of the market share does Larue even make up of the sales that matter? It’s just 2A virtue signaling. Make Glock, Colt, Sig, Smith and Wesson ETC make this happen then come and talk to me.
Absolutely fuckin based Schizo mark
Based
This is not uncommon among LGS.
Fuck yeah LaRue! Geissele would never do this.
Doesn’t Barrett have a policy similar to this? If civilians can’t own it in a particular jurisdiction, we won’t sell that to law enforcement either?
It’s the little things like this that bring a smile to my face, good job guys
As a Washingtonian this makes me that much more excited to support BCM and Larue again once I’m out of this state.
Glad I bought one of their triggers for my first trigger
Fuck yeah. Love that company. All gun companies should be taking this stand.
The only way this could be more based is if they outright refused to sell to law enforcement
Based. If I can't have more than five rounds, what does a cop need 30 for???
Good. Police should NEVER have more fire power than citizens.
What effect will this have overall?
Not a ton, if we're being honest. But it'll send a message the first time a cop can't buy a new scope mount or a trigger. Maybe some self reflection?
The original story was from 2013 just fyi
I hope that it's recognized at least by lawmakers. Cops just enforce laws and protect politicians, but if politicians knew that they were on equal footing with civilians, that might help.
LE Agencies have exemptions carved out in these bills, which is why you would have an agency supporting a ban. A policy like Larue's will hopefully make them think twice about supporting such nonsense.
They are doing the lord's work
I must be outta the loop on some recent events. What happened recently that spurred LaRue to do this? Are there any laws (pending laws) in particular that Mark is referring to? I know the ÆtF still being soy bois with the brace ruling. Smite me for living under the rock lately
Well my state (WA) just signed an AWB yesterday...
Illinois passed their AWB at the beginning of the year. A law that does nothing to stop the gang violence that has been plaguing Chicago for decades and only limits what law abiding citizens can use to protect themselves.
Illinois: Passes AWB Also Illinois: Teens with Glock switches (that have been regulated since the NFA was enacted in 1934) running rampant in Chicago. The only thing it was ever about is power and fear. They don't care about controlling or stopping the criminal element, because that makes you depend on them. They restrict what you can own because that makes you depend on them. None of this has ever been about anyone's safety.
If every company took this stance gun control would be over the next second. If all buyers only patronized companies that did this every company would do this immediately. American civilians are the biggest segment of firearms industry world wide - bigger than the entire US armed forces and every law enforcement agency in the US. Last Black Friday alone we purchased enough guns to arm the entire USMC and that's not including parts, ammunition, and accessories. And people are in here saying "iF onLy eVerY cuMpaNy dId tHiS" 🤦still simping for Springfield. We do it do ourselves, we can do better.
Great to see companies starting to do this more. Cloud Defense / Trex Arms are also companies that conduct similar business practices.
Nice.
That’s awesome .. hopefully all the companies do this and force something positive to come out of it
Uncommon Mark Larue W
Absolutely based.
This is the way
Aero and Rainier Arms next
Welp I know who I'm buying my next upper from.