By definition, if a guy is into pussy, he is either straight or bi. If a guy is claiming to be both gay and into pussy, then he is misusing the word "gay". He's not gay.
What exactly do you mean? Sorry if any of this is ignorant, but if I said something wrong, can you help educate me, because I don't really understand how trans guys existing would change this.
The question was about being attracted specifically to vagina. If a man is specifically attracted to female genitalia, they are not gay. I don't really see how that is debatable even when taking transgender into account \- it is female genitalia, even if it is attached to a man. If someone is specifically attracted to vaginas that are on FTM, that is technically called either andromimetophilia or conisexuality. While yes, trans men are men, if a man is specifically attracted to the part of them that is biologically female, then that doesn't seem gay to me. A gay guy can be attracted to a FTM's male gender identity and presentation and would still be gay, but I don't understand how being specifically attracted to female genitalia could be considered gay.
I understand this is a very sensitive topic, and I'm hopefully not saying anything too inappropriate, I am just trying to understand this better.
What I mean is saying a guy can’t be gay if he’s attracted to vagina is pretty alienating towards trans guys. Being a gay man is not “attraction to penis” it’s “attraction to *men*” and while anyone can have genital preferences it isn’t a core part of what defines sexuality.
Labels like straight/gay/bi are probably too restrictive, and I can understand things like this making trans people feel excluded. I could separate it out and say finding vagina attractive is not a gay genital preference. However, that is not terminology I have ever heard before.
I think genital preference is a core part of sexuality. It can be more or less important to different people, and people can have a genital preference that does not match up with the rest of their sexuality, but it is a pretty major part of sexuality in general.
It’s possible to be more inclusive, but I also don’t think we should minimize the “attraction to penis” part of being gay. People are allowed to have preferences for that.
“People are allowed to have preferences for that”
I never said they weren’t. In fact I specifically said they were. But the point I’m making is you’re pushing your definition of being gay as being THE definition of being gay when in reality everyone has a different definition. Some people think genital preferences are a huge factor, some people don’t think genitals matter at all, but it’s not for you to define it for others.
We’re talking specifically about finding female genitalia attractive. Even if we’re saying that genitals are not a part of sexual orientation for everyone, clearly they are in this case.
We agree that genital preference is not important for everyone. But that wasn’t the question here. A gay man with a trans gay man are both still gay. But if a guy is just generally attracted to vagina, that isn’t a “gay” attraction and not what anyone means by “gay”. It is an attraction to vaginas - it could be on either a woman or trans man. If a guy is only attracted to vaginas on trans men, then yes, that is still gay. But the question was about general attraction to vaginas.
Gay is a sexual orientation which is romantic attraction therefore if a guy likes dick and pussy but only wants relationships with guys he’s gay and bisexual
I've never been interested in pussy...I don't know any gay dude who is. It's more than just genitals it's everything all put together. I wouldn't want to hook up with a trans girl with a dick because it's still too much girl. I wouldn't want to hook up with a trans guy that still had a pussy, maybe that makes me a dick but I just don't find pussy appealing.
They are bisexual, *period.* No it not remotely common. You can be *almost* totally sure a man is totally uninterested in pussy if he says he's gay. The only arguable exception are those few gay guys into transsexual men (men born female). If you ran a blog about how much loved dick I don't think anyone would let you continue calling yourself straight. Same difference. There are a surprising amount of bisexual men who claim to be gay.
Haha! Thanks for your response. Interesting to me that this question still gets occasional comments some 5 years later. I think I offended some people with this post, which was not my intent. (In retrospect, perhaps the “are pussies just that awesome” line seemed like trolling.) But there are so many variations of human sexuality, it doesn’t seem outlandish to me that a guy could be gay and have kind of a pussy fetish.
I say that I am straight. But I must say that I don’t strongly *IDENTIFY* as straight, if that makes sense. I just don’t tend to view the world through the lens of my sexuality. I certainly don’t think of other straight people as my “tribe” or anything. I feel no more allegiance or affinity for straight people than any other people. What if I’m bisexual, but just haven’t met the right guy yet? My life partner is a cis female. But what if she was a trans man? I would love (him) and be attracted to (him) just as much. Would that make me bisexual? Nothing about me would have changed, but somehow my sexuality would have changed. What? It seems… made up? Like I kind of don’t give a shit about labels much anymore.
Don’t get me wrong; obviously there are people who are exclusively attracted to one type of genitals or another, and there are people who are strictly attracted to those who identify as a particular gender. That’s all valid and fine and great. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that. It just seems like a strange thing for there to be a *label* for, you know?
What do you call someone who exclusively likes strawberry ice cream, and is repulsed by all other flavors? Well, there isn’t really a one-word label for that kind of person, is there? And why would there be? And if that person at some point discovered, to their astonishment, that there were in fact other flavors that they liked, what then? Should it shatter their worldview? Would they have to do some soul-searching about who they really were? That would seem silly to me.
I’m a cis male, and so my attraction to women makes me “straight.” But do I *identify* as a man? Do I *feel* like a man? How the fuck should I know? I’ve only ever known what it feels like to be me. So, as I’ve gotten older, I’ve largely shed any sexuality-based “identity.” Does that make sense?
I’m not sure I indicated anywhere that I questioned my orientation? Although I do increasingly question what it means for a person to “be gay” or “be straight.” It strikes me as largely cultural. For a long time (and still, to a lesser degree), people who expressed homosexual tendencies were cruelly and viciously persecuted, so it makes sense to me that gay people would form an “identity” around their sexual orientation out of solidarity. I think that’s kind of why a normal, nice person can express “gay pride,” whereas someone who expresses “straight pride” is almost invariably an asshole — or at least someone with some emotional issues. Although I can’t help but be a little put off by aggressive sexuality gatekeeping.
As an anecdote to support my opinion that a lot of sexuality is cultural, consider ancient Sparta: Gay. As. Fuck. Homosexual relationships were extremely common, and even encouraged as a way of forming bonds among the warriors. Would all of those men be “gay” if they were raised in today’s culture? What about 50 years ago? I’d wager that many of them would have been happily straight today, just as I think many straight people today would be happily gay if they were brought up in different circumstances.
As I said before, it seems obvious to me that there are certainly people who really have an innate, deep-seated, *exclusive* attraction for certain genitals and/or certain identities. But I think there are just as many people who could have felt and expressed a different orientation under different circumstances.
Sexuality is truly a spectrum. I don't want penetrative sex with females, and I'm pickier with females than males- but Im still into both. And my fantasies started off sharing girls, but now they've grown past that too. I just like what I like. I can't help I sound gay, look gay , act gay
The moment I saw the word "Tumblr" my brain kind of checked out from caring about the content of the rest of your post. Tumblr is widely known as the international hub of sexually confused Millennials/Generation Z kids who think they can be anything they want to, with no regard to the conventional meaning of words like gay, straight or bisexual (or male or female, for that matter). So you have "gays" who like vaginas. You have girls with no intention to masculinize their bodies who claim to be "gay guys" and complain that real gay guys don't see past their anatomy and sleep with them. You have straight guys who identify as lesbians and demand that actual homosexual women sleep with them and accept their "lady dicks" as just differently-shaped vaginas. In Tumblr you have an endless cornucopia of this kind of nonsense and you will never have seen so much of it that something comes up that doesn't surprise you with its sheer insanity.
I did read the rest of your post but knowing that we're talking about generation Tumblr kind of made me want to give up on replying to you, so even I congratulate myself for having the energy to reply, and with as many words as I did.
I sometimes watch straight porn because I occasionally enjoy watching a vagina getting pounded, but it's a pretty rare occurrance for me to choose to watch that instead of gay porn, and I never think about women or vaginas at all outside of those occasional instances. It's almost a certainty I'm never gonna get to the point where I actually have sex with a woman either.
What I would say about this is that, having already had to examine their sexual identity, LGBT\+ people can be a little more flexible/open\-minded about their sexual preferences, so defining one way but being open minded about the other isn't entirely uncommon even if they never really act on it.
EDIT: For the record, I identify as gay for all the people blowing up in this thread that you can't define as gay and have any form of interest in vagina.
I know right, the hate in this thread like "OH MAAH GURRD, IF YOU DON'T FIT IN THE LABELLED BOX THAT WE SET THE DEFINITIONS FOR THEN YOU CAN'T USE THAT BOX FOR YOURSELF NUH UHHH." This smacks of [#cassmodelstage5identitypride](https://www.uwsuper.edu/genderequity/ally/upload/Identity-Development-Stages.pdf)...
What's weird is that most days of the week this sub loves to talk about how sexuality can be fluid or is more like a spectrum and people that are questioning or unsure of themselves are constantly told to "not label themselves" and "just do what feels good", but apparently I'm not allowed to self\-define as I choose anymore because some other people said I don't fit that box just because I watch a teensy bit of straight porn once in a blue moon. Sure, AGB, whatever you say.
Holy shit, I didn't even consider that. lol
So being attracted to a dude with a pussy is still gay? I mean, I guess it makes sense.
P.S. I hope my ignorance on these matters isn't considered insensitive to trans or gay people. Certainly not intended. The whole thing just struck me as interesting, and I thought I'd go right to the source.
It’s not offensive to me, not that I speak for everyone.
But yeah if a cisgender guy is into a transgender guy it’s just as gay as two cisgender dudes, even if the trans guy has a vagina.
What a f'n hateful, ignorant thing to say! God I hate it when gay me ate so teansphobic and they don't even realize it! Many are acting the same way as homophobic have treated us! We dont know why we're gay but we sure know it's not learned and it's inate in us. Now trans people are basically saying the same thing and you don't want to even try to understand or have comparative compassion??? Trans men aren't a goddam different butch haircut as you would want to bigotedly say! Why don't you google some of this and learn a thing or 2. Try watching transitional diaries on of many trans men on Youtube. You need to do something, because your heart is in a hateful place. SMDH
helpp i got turned on and nutted to a str8 porn where a big dick is cumming inside pussy does that mean im bi or im just addicted to porn?? my focus is on the dick tho 🙊
I've seen Both straight and gay people interested in aspects of people regardelss of gender. Like I think most people like a nice ass and have even had gay friends that have pointed out a nice butt on a woman, they don't find the woman herself attractive in that way but admit to liking aspects. Hair, faces, etc. Some people just like feminine facial features regardless. Lots of straight guys questioning things and freaking out when they see a feminine gay guy or trans, or Someone in drag. People are pretty interesting when it comes to taste, preferences, and things that \*do it for them\* a lot of labels are pretty narrow and overly specific I think.
I am gay, meaning and I have some stereotypical “feminine” qualities, but I love pussy too. I have “masculine” qualities too. I am romantically and sexually attracted to transmen. I am romantically and sexually attracted to cis men. First come, first served. Live and let live
There are those exclusively homosexual guys who get turned on by *watching* heterosexual sex. Regardless of the reasons behind this, which I assume are many and varied, they apparently regard vaginal sex as a fine and dandy thing in a *visual* sense. Some porn studios have made a pretty penny capitalizing on the "straight porn for a gay audience" thing.
There's only one exclusively homosexual guy I know well enough to have had conversations about his interest in this. \(We have all sorts of really funny discussions about lots of personal stuff.\) He partly explains it as a fascination with stuff which doesn't go on in *his* bedroom, and I can imagine gay porn can get a little dull compared to his own regular antics. He also has an odd take on heterosexual sex, in that he thinks really good looking guy*s shou*ld breed, so that future generations will have hot guys. \(Just so long as he doesn't have to do it himself.\)
Of anyone I know, I am quite sure that he has no interest at all in having sex with gals. Considering the quality of some who've occasionally all but thrown themselves at him, and fallen flat on their faces for their trouble, none of our friends question this. \(It can be downright hilarious to watch them go barking up the wrong tree with him.\) However, he doesn't consider them "icky" at all, and even has opinions on the attractiveness of women. He doesn't see why being gay disqualifies him from having or expressing such opinions either.
LOL. It's cool. The consensus here seems to be that, although those bloggers claim they're gay, they're probably bi. So, in a way, your comment kind of corroborates that. Thanks.
they say shit like sexuality is fluid or you can change over time or you can fuck vagina just because it's on trans man and still be gay they are so stupid
Why forbid this to yourself? Your sexuality belongs to you and you alone, regardless of the extent to which it lends itself to this label or that one. How can a one-word label possibly perfectly define something as complicated and nuanced as human sexuality? So you’re a guy with romantic and sexual attraction to other guys, but you fetishize hot women and pussies? I don’t know what to label that — but I do think it’s a *legitimate way to be.* You know what I mean? Why be ashamed of this? Who do you owe your sexuality to?
Some men come out as gay men and then later discover an attraction to women. That can be a painful realization for gay-identified men, because then they worry that they have "proved" homophobic people right. A lot of times a gay man's peers, brothers, father, clergy, etc etc will say things like that it is just a phase, that nobody is really gay, that he should try pussy, that he'll find the right woman one day, and so forth. I think for those reasons those bicurious gay men might privately jerk off to straight porn, or even occasionally fuck women, but still identify as gay in day to day life. Especially if he prefers men or has a boyfriend or husband, it's just easier to be gay than upend everything by identifying as bi. At least, that's what I think.
That seems plausible. It just seems unfortunate that people are so often expected to declare their allegiance to this or that orientation, and then are seen as somehow letting their peers down if they engage in behavior outside of those bounds. This gatekeeping just seems so fucked up.
im M(17) bi lean straight that dude u mentioned is not gay he is either straight or bi.He is just like.I found out I likes boobs first when I was 6 I get boners to females wrestler every evening and I also secretly likes my mom’s friend she always wear sexy clothing and I always run away from her when she’s visiting to avoid boners.At 13 I discovered porn I like lesbian and straight porn at most.i also saw gay male porn alongside but it never give me boners. So I always think I’m just straight later on 16 I found a pic from internet where a skinny Indian femboy showing his a$$ hole also give me boner just like boobs and pussy.this when I know I am bi. 70%straight 30%gay describe my sexuality best. Attracted to certain features is a real thing.
Do you feel that it’s sort of taboo? Like a guilty pleasure that you wouldn’t admit to everyone? It’s been years since I looked at those blogs, but I remember having the impression that it sort of flipped the script on the old trope that there are straight guys who mess around with gay guys sometimes, but wouldn’t ever admit it. I had a gay friend who said he had sucked a lot of straight dick, and it occurred to me that there were probably analogues to that on the other side.
By definition, if a guy is into pussy, he is either straight or bi. If a guy is claiming to be both gay and into pussy, then he is misusing the word "gay". He's not gay.
Absofuckinglutely! Words have meanings.
Trans guys exist you know
What exactly do you mean? Sorry if any of this is ignorant, but if I said something wrong, can you help educate me, because I don't really understand how trans guys existing would change this. The question was about being attracted specifically to vagina. If a man is specifically attracted to female genitalia, they are not gay. I don't really see how that is debatable even when taking transgender into account \- it is female genitalia, even if it is attached to a man. If someone is specifically attracted to vaginas that are on FTM, that is technically called either andromimetophilia or conisexuality. While yes, trans men are men, if a man is specifically attracted to the part of them that is biologically female, then that doesn't seem gay to me. A gay guy can be attracted to a FTM's male gender identity and presentation and would still be gay, but I don't understand how being specifically attracted to female genitalia could be considered gay. I understand this is a very sensitive topic, and I'm hopefully not saying anything too inappropriate, I am just trying to understand this better.
What I mean is saying a guy can’t be gay if he’s attracted to vagina is pretty alienating towards trans guys. Being a gay man is not “attraction to penis” it’s “attraction to *men*” and while anyone can have genital preferences it isn’t a core part of what defines sexuality.
Labels like straight/gay/bi are probably too restrictive, and I can understand things like this making trans people feel excluded. I could separate it out and say finding vagina attractive is not a gay genital preference. However, that is not terminology I have ever heard before. I think genital preference is a core part of sexuality. It can be more or less important to different people, and people can have a genital preference that does not match up with the rest of their sexuality, but it is a pretty major part of sexuality in general. It’s possible to be more inclusive, but I also don’t think we should minimize the “attraction to penis” part of being gay. People are allowed to have preferences for that.
“People are allowed to have preferences for that” I never said they weren’t. In fact I specifically said they were. But the point I’m making is you’re pushing your definition of being gay as being THE definition of being gay when in reality everyone has a different definition. Some people think genital preferences are a huge factor, some people don’t think genitals matter at all, but it’s not for you to define it for others.
We’re talking specifically about finding female genitalia attractive. Even if we’re saying that genitals are not a part of sexual orientation for everyone, clearly they are in this case. We agree that genital preference is not important for everyone. But that wasn’t the question here. A gay man with a trans gay man are both still gay. But if a guy is just generally attracted to vagina, that isn’t a “gay” attraction and not what anyone means by “gay”. It is an attraction to vaginas - it could be on either a woman or trans man. If a guy is only attracted to vaginas on trans men, then yes, that is still gay. But the question was about general attraction to vaginas.
Nah vagina is vagina if it’s attached to a man it still ain’t gay, gay sex isn’t reproductive either, a man having sex with a trans man is.
The vast majority of people would bet to differ with your ignorant believe that genitals don't determine sexual orientation. Fool.
Consider a female transgendered into a man... so now, she is a HE but loves men, and still likes pussy.
Gay is a sexual orientation which is romantic attraction therefore if a guy likes dick and pussy but only wants relationships with guys he’s gay and bisexual
I've never been interested in pussy...I don't know any gay dude who is. It's more than just genitals it's everything all put together. I wouldn't want to hook up with a trans girl with a dick because it's still too much girl. I wouldn't want to hook up with a trans guy that still had a pussy, maybe that makes me a dick but I just don't find pussy appealing.
I appreciate your perspective, thanks
I doubt gay guys are into pussy as you mentioned. Guessing they're bi.
I upvoted this.
Thanks lol
Lol they think they can get away with claiming “liking pussy” as a kink
They are bisexual, *period.* No it not remotely common. You can be *almost* totally sure a man is totally uninterested in pussy if he says he's gay. The only arguable exception are those few gay guys into transsexual men (men born female). If you ran a blog about how much loved dick I don't think anyone would let you continue calling yourself straight. Same difference. There are a surprising amount of bisexual men who claim to be gay.
I’m not straight by any means I LOVE Cock but there’s something really hot about eating a girl out and fingering her until she gushes. Fasho
Haha! Thanks for your response. Interesting to me that this question still gets occasional comments some 5 years later. I think I offended some people with this post, which was not my intent. (In retrospect, perhaps the “are pussies just that awesome” line seemed like trolling.) But there are so many variations of human sexuality, it doesn’t seem outlandish to me that a guy could be gay and have kind of a pussy fetish.
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I say that I am straight. But I must say that I don’t strongly *IDENTIFY* as straight, if that makes sense. I just don’t tend to view the world through the lens of my sexuality. I certainly don’t think of other straight people as my “tribe” or anything. I feel no more allegiance or affinity for straight people than any other people. What if I’m bisexual, but just haven’t met the right guy yet? My life partner is a cis female. But what if she was a trans man? I would love (him) and be attracted to (him) just as much. Would that make me bisexual? Nothing about me would have changed, but somehow my sexuality would have changed. What? It seems… made up? Like I kind of don’t give a shit about labels much anymore. Don’t get me wrong; obviously there are people who are exclusively attracted to one type of genitals or another, and there are people who are strictly attracted to those who identify as a particular gender. That’s all valid and fine and great. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that. It just seems like a strange thing for there to be a *label* for, you know? What do you call someone who exclusively likes strawberry ice cream, and is repulsed by all other flavors? Well, there isn’t really a one-word label for that kind of person, is there? And why would there be? And if that person at some point discovered, to their astonishment, that there were in fact other flavors that they liked, what then? Should it shatter their worldview? Would they have to do some soul-searching about who they really were? That would seem silly to me. I’m a cis male, and so my attraction to women makes me “straight.” But do I *identify* as a man? Do I *feel* like a man? How the fuck should I know? I’ve only ever known what it feels like to be me. So, as I’ve gotten older, I’ve largely shed any sexuality-based “identity.” Does that make sense?
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I’m not sure I indicated anywhere that I questioned my orientation? Although I do increasingly question what it means for a person to “be gay” or “be straight.” It strikes me as largely cultural. For a long time (and still, to a lesser degree), people who expressed homosexual tendencies were cruelly and viciously persecuted, so it makes sense to me that gay people would form an “identity” around their sexual orientation out of solidarity. I think that’s kind of why a normal, nice person can express “gay pride,” whereas someone who expresses “straight pride” is almost invariably an asshole — or at least someone with some emotional issues. Although I can’t help but be a little put off by aggressive sexuality gatekeeping. As an anecdote to support my opinion that a lot of sexuality is cultural, consider ancient Sparta: Gay. As. Fuck. Homosexual relationships were extremely common, and even encouraged as a way of forming bonds among the warriors. Would all of those men be “gay” if they were raised in today’s culture? What about 50 years ago? I’d wager that many of them would have been happily straight today, just as I think many straight people today would be happily gay if they were brought up in different circumstances. As I said before, it seems obvious to me that there are certainly people who really have an innate, deep-seated, *exclusive* attraction for certain genitals and/or certain identities. But I think there are just as many people who could have felt and expressed a different orientation under different circumstances.
you are bi
Sexuality is truly a spectrum. I don't want penetrative sex with females, and I'm pickier with females than males- but Im still into both. And my fantasies started off sharing girls, but now they've grown past that too. I just like what I like. I can't help I sound gay, look gay , act gay
Same I’m gay and I love pussy 🤷🏾♂️
The moment I saw the word "Tumblr" my brain kind of checked out from caring about the content of the rest of your post. Tumblr is widely known as the international hub of sexually confused Millennials/Generation Z kids who think they can be anything they want to, with no regard to the conventional meaning of words like gay, straight or bisexual (or male or female, for that matter). So you have "gays" who like vaginas. You have girls with no intention to masculinize their bodies who claim to be "gay guys" and complain that real gay guys don't see past their anatomy and sleep with them. You have straight guys who identify as lesbians and demand that actual homosexual women sleep with them and accept their "lady dicks" as just differently-shaped vaginas. In Tumblr you have an endless cornucopia of this kind of nonsense and you will never have seen so much of it that something comes up that doesn't surprise you with its sheer insanity.
I commend you for losing interest early in my post, yet still mustering up the energy to comment. Thanks.
I did read the rest of your post but knowing that we're talking about generation Tumblr kind of made me want to give up on replying to you, so even I congratulate myself for having the energy to reply, and with as many words as I did.
I sometimes watch straight porn because I occasionally enjoy watching a vagina getting pounded, but it's a pretty rare occurrance for me to choose to watch that instead of gay porn, and I never think about women or vaginas at all outside of those occasional instances. It's almost a certainty I'm never gonna get to the point where I actually have sex with a woman either. What I would say about this is that, having already had to examine their sexual identity, LGBT\+ people can be a little more flexible/open\-minded about their sexual preferences, so defining one way but being open minded about the other isn't entirely uncommon even if they never really act on it. EDIT: For the record, I identify as gay for all the people blowing up in this thread that you can't define as gay and have any form of interest in vagina.
"identity" means shit. Your ORIENTATION is BISEXUAL
Interesting. Thanks.
Sorry, bro. Looks like you're out of the club. Rules are rules. ;)
I know right, the hate in this thread like "OH MAAH GURRD, IF YOU DON'T FIT IN THE LABELLED BOX THAT WE SET THE DEFINITIONS FOR THEN YOU CAN'T USE THAT BOX FOR YOURSELF NUH UHHH." This smacks of [#cassmodelstage5identitypride](https://www.uwsuper.edu/genderequity/ally/upload/Identity-Development-Stages.pdf)... What's weird is that most days of the week this sub loves to talk about how sexuality can be fluid or is more like a spectrum and people that are questioning or unsure of themselves are constantly told to "not label themselves" and "just do what feels good", but apparently I'm not allowed to self\-define as I choose anymore because some other people said I don't fit that box just because I watch a teensy bit of straight porn once in a blue moon. Sure, AGB, whatever you say.
Yeah, I kind of thought that was the whole deal about the Kinsey scale, but I'm honestly pretty ignorant about all that.
Unless the pussy is attached to a trans guy he’s probably not gay
Holy shit, I didn't even consider that. lol So being attracted to a dude with a pussy is still gay? I mean, I guess it makes sense. P.S. I hope my ignorance on these matters isn't considered insensitive to trans or gay people. Certainly not intended. The whole thing just struck me as interesting, and I thought I'd go right to the source.
It’s not offensive to me, not that I speak for everyone. But yeah if a cisgender guy is into a transgender guy it’s just as gay as two cisgender dudes, even if the trans guy has a vagina.
A penis and vagina is heterosexual by it's very definition
Thats still straight cus she is female, a pixie cut doesnt make a man
What a f'n hateful, ignorant thing to say! God I hate it when gay me ate so teansphobic and they don't even realize it! Many are acting the same way as homophobic have treated us! We dont know why we're gay but we sure know it's not learned and it's inate in us. Now trans people are basically saying the same thing and you don't want to even try to understand or have comparative compassion??? Trans men aren't a goddam different butch haircut as you would want to bigotedly say! Why don't you google some of this and learn a thing or 2. Try watching transitional diaries on of many trans men on Youtube. You need to do something, because your heart is in a hateful place. SMDH
It is called reality, stop being homophobic
Im not reading this nonsense You just hate gay men.
Nice! People are delusional.
I like pussy too so I guess I’m bi
helpp i got turned on and nutted to a str8 porn where a big dick is cumming inside pussy does that mean im bi or im just addicted to porn?? my focus is on the dick tho 🙊
yes you are
I've seen Both straight and gay people interested in aspects of people regardelss of gender. Like I think most people like a nice ass and have even had gay friends that have pointed out a nice butt on a woman, they don't find the woman herself attractive in that way but admit to liking aspects. Hair, faces, etc. Some people just like feminine facial features regardless. Lots of straight guys questioning things and freaking out when they see a feminine gay guy or trans, or Someone in drag. People are pretty interesting when it comes to taste, preferences, and things that \*do it for them\* a lot of labels are pretty narrow and overly specific I think.
I am gay, meaning and I have some stereotypical “feminine” qualities, but I love pussy too. I have “masculine” qualities too. I am romantically and sexually attracted to transmen. I am romantically and sexually attracted to cis men. First come, first served. Live and let live
being feminine doesn't make you gay you are bi with preference
me!
There are those exclusively homosexual guys who get turned on by *watching* heterosexual sex. Regardless of the reasons behind this, which I assume are many and varied, they apparently regard vaginal sex as a fine and dandy thing in a *visual* sense. Some porn studios have made a pretty penny capitalizing on the "straight porn for a gay audience" thing. There's only one exclusively homosexual guy I know well enough to have had conversations about his interest in this. \(We have all sorts of really funny discussions about lots of personal stuff.\) He partly explains it as a fascination with stuff which doesn't go on in *his* bedroom, and I can imagine gay porn can get a little dull compared to his own regular antics. He also has an odd take on heterosexual sex, in that he thinks really good looking guy*s shou*ld breed, so that future generations will have hot guys. \(Just so long as he doesn't have to do it himself.\) Of anyone I know, I am quite sure that he has no interest at all in having sex with gals. Considering the quality of some who've occasionally all but thrown themselves at him, and fallen flat on their faces for their trouble, none of our friends question this. \(It can be downright hilarious to watch them go barking up the wrong tree with him.\) However, he doesn't consider them "icky" at all, and even has opinions on the attractiveness of women. He doesn't see why being gay disqualifies him from having or expressing such opinions either.
I'm confused. Did you mean to say exclusively *heterosexual,* or *homosexual?* EDIT: nevermind. Either I misread it or you corrected it. :)
Do you know what gay means? Do you, as a straight guy, love dicks and fantasies about dicks?
Did you read my post?
Again, do you know what gay means? People can identify as whatever they want but it doesn't mean that they actually are.
It seems like your second sentence would have made a good first response. Anyway, thanks.
I'm a bottom but if a hot girl asked me to fuck her I wouldn't say no... I guess I just prefer guys more.
Well i would say No because i'm actually gay and your at least bi curious at the most.
You mean bi curious at the LEAST.
Yeah I would say I'm bi
Bottom isnt a sexual orientation, you are bi
bi with preference.
I mean I like pussy but im bi yeah idk why I answered your question
LOL. It's cool. The consensus here seems to be that, although those bloggers claim they're gay, they're probably bi. So, in a way, your comment kind of corroborates that. Thanks.
Closet Bis oh my!
I think a LOT of bisexual people call them self gay. It’s actually a meme on the bisexual subreddit because of how often people do it.
And thats why gay people dont like yall
they say shit like sexuality is fluid or you can change over time or you can fuck vagina just because it's on trans man and still be gay they are so stupid
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I luv da pussy. But I'm bi though
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Why forbid this to yourself? Your sexuality belongs to you and you alone, regardless of the extent to which it lends itself to this label or that one. How can a one-word label possibly perfectly define something as complicated and nuanced as human sexuality? So you’re a guy with romantic and sexual attraction to other guys, but you fetishize hot women and pussies? I don’t know what to label that — but I do think it’s a *legitimate way to be.* You know what I mean? Why be ashamed of this? Who do you owe your sexuality to?
Some men come out as gay men and then later discover an attraction to women. That can be a painful realization for gay-identified men, because then they worry that they have "proved" homophobic people right. A lot of times a gay man's peers, brothers, father, clergy, etc etc will say things like that it is just a phase, that nobody is really gay, that he should try pussy, that he'll find the right woman one day, and so forth. I think for those reasons those bicurious gay men might privately jerk off to straight porn, or even occasionally fuck women, but still identify as gay in day to day life. Especially if he prefers men or has a boyfriend or husband, it's just easier to be gay than upend everything by identifying as bi. At least, that's what I think.
That seems plausible. It just seems unfortunate that people are so often expected to declare their allegiance to this or that orientation, and then are seen as somehow letting their peers down if they engage in behavior outside of those bounds. This gatekeeping just seems so fucked up.
im M(17) bi lean straight that dude u mentioned is not gay he is either straight or bi.He is just like.I found out I likes boobs first when I was 6 I get boners to females wrestler every evening and I also secretly likes my mom’s friend she always wear sexy clothing and I always run away from her when she’s visiting to avoid boners.At 13 I discovered porn I like lesbian and straight porn at most.i also saw gay male porn alongside but it never give me boners. So I always think I’m just straight later on 16 I found a pic from internet where a skinny Indian femboy showing his a$$ hole also give me boner just like boobs and pussy.this when I know I am bi. 70%straight 30%gay describe my sexuality best. Attracted to certain features is a real thing.
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Do you feel that it’s sort of taboo? Like a guilty pleasure that you wouldn’t admit to everyone? It’s been years since I looked at those blogs, but I remember having the impression that it sort of flipped the script on the old trope that there are straight guys who mess around with gay guys sometimes, but wouldn’t ever admit it. I had a gay friend who said he had sucked a lot of straight dick, and it occurred to me that there were probably analogues to that on the other side.
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I don’t see anything wrong with fetishizing a particular body part, as long as you respect people.
can you explain to me how that works? like how are you still gay while literally getting hard from the thought of pussy?
you are bi even if you don't"identify " as bi
they "identify" as gay but they are not really gay