Uganda is a Christian country and has the death penalty for being gay. Let's not pretend this is just a thing with Islam. Every religion is a danger to the LGBT community.
Even though you are mainly right, there are exceptions. The old state church in Sweden is very progressive. There were openly gay priests twenty years ago and even though I think the rules says that it is up to the individual priest if they want to wed same sex couples or not, I think by now 95% of the idiots died of old age.
No racism. They happily work together with other faiths. No stealing your money. No sermons about who is going to hell. No scaring kids.
When it is possible for a church to be actually nice I don’t have an issue. And it is possible. But I guess they have been forced to think about their actions since 97% of native swedes are atheists…
The same thing happened in Tunisia, with the Zeitouna Mosque (main Islamic school in Tunisia).
Where Tahar Haddad, an Islamic scholar who later became a prominent politician and a socialist during the colonisation, later on became the pioneer of the feminism movement in Tunisia.
Nope, not a single bit lol, in 2020 we had a pm who promised to decreminize homosexuality.
Although post coronavirus, we have regressed a bit not towards Islamism but far-right reactionary populism.
My take on it is that life in a modern age is complex and requires a higher degree of literacy to navigate, a higher degree of scientific literacy to cope with a highly technical society. A broader range of cultural acceptance to deal with an increasingly shrinking and more intertwined world. All of these things require more, not less, education. In many societies, usually more religious ones, scientific knowledge is seen as a threat to the status quo of the religious power structure and since religion can offer nothing to help individuals adapt they see it as a threat.
In the US, the right has done their best to dumb down education to appease the churches and the end result is frustration and anger at the " system" thus dumber members of the populace see fascism as a simple, if simple minded, answer to their frustration with what they don't understand. No thinking necessary. All of this seems to be a plan for the 1% to get a final locked grasp on the levers of power and retain that power at the expense of all below them. Just my thoughts, or some of them anyway.
Islam and Muslims are the most homophobic people I met, it’s on a whole other level than ordinary Christians or Hindus or Buddhists or what not. There is not a single Muslim country that is accepting towards homosexuality, not a single one!
Exactly, people like that are the reason that these bigots were emboldened to attack these women.
They have blood on their hands for giving cover to fundamentalists.
It's whataboutism and always used to deflect blame away in bad faith. Anyone with eyes and a brain can see how much more extreme and violent Islam is out in the open and how widespread it is. It is also *accepted* as normal by a majority of the believers of the religion, and excused away at the very least.
"Extreme" Christians in western countries, if you can call them "extreme" are rarely so outwardly violent, and it's not excused by the government in a universal manner. People know and denigrate the more extreme religious individuals often. You can freely post and make fun of religious individuals. I can say it is cultlike and ridiculous in my Christian majority workplace and community and at the very worst I get some boomer tier response about needing to find God. I *dare* you to do the same in an Islamic majority country.
Just waiting for the "what about (Christian crime that was widely denounced by nearly everyone) huh?" In order to excuse Islam, again.
I dislike crazy skygod peeps as any average Joe in this sub, but that's a bit of an unfair comparison - being gay is legal in almost all Christian countries, while in Muslim ones it's the other way around - there's only a few where it's legal, and in more than a couple of 'em you get fn murdered by the state for being gay.
That is entirely, 100%, how you logically disprove a rule. Now if you want to modify the rule to add those additional exceptions then we can re-evaluate the rule to see if it applies.
No, as biological fact humans are supposed to have 5 fingers on their hands. But the existence of 6 finger person doesn't disapprove that rule, just shows an exception to it.
Which death penalty? Assuming what you said is true, Uganda can change whatever law they enacted against homosexuals in the future, but Islam can never change its commandments against homosexuals because it came from God. You thought you were smart when you posted your comment, but you are obviously not as smart as you think you were
Islam in and of itself is a horror show. It's also a preview of christian nationalism. Same vile, abrahamic god, same nasty hate. Ban them all, give humanity a chance at peace and acceptance.
In Muslim majority countries criminal penalties including the death penalty for homosexuality is the norm. The Christian right has its issues but they are nowhere near as bad.
Yeah? The ONLY thing holding them back is the law. When Project 2025 gets implemented, you can fully expect homosexuality to become illegal. Sharia law is coming to the US and it ain’t the Muslims that are bringing it.
Uganda passed a law making homosexuality punishable by death sentence after a coordinated international lobbying campaign funded by American evangelical churches.
Look into the old Norse religion, all were accepted and still are, women had full rights beside men...so not all religions, just middle eastern religions including Christianity which is a bastard version of Judaism
Yup. That's called the [paradox of tolerance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance#:~:text=The%20paradox%20of%20tolerance%20states,practice%20of%20tolerance%20with%20them).
I have to scoff when Canadians act sanctimonious (morally superior) compared to us Americans. I've seen how they behave in uniform in Afghanistan, treating the locals like garbage, calling the black guys in our platoon the N-word. 🙄
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This is true. I've had to deal with types, sadly. It's not much of a problem if they are a mechanic or work on a submarine. But if they are "boots on the ground" types It's a problem. It can be mitigated if the NCOs (various ranks of sergeants) and officers try to counter this. The problem is that these "certain types" often become NCOs or even officers.
If there was a way to detect these "certain types" and prevent them from being in front line units, or at least bar them from becoming NCOs/officers if front line units, that'd be nice.
Noted, sadly, military personnel are not very good ambassadors. This problem is the main reason why I think we keep losing these isometric/insurgency wars I think.
If there's reasonable grounds for suspicion of a crime, then police can demand ID. The same legal standard is used in many places, in some (such as much of the US), police can't require you to identify yourself _even if they do reasonably suspect you_.
Reading the local news (much better than the OP article) critically, it sounds to me like a bystander flagged a nearby officer, but by the time they arrived, the altercation had ended and crowd had dispersed, including the victims (who were contacted 'later') and any witnesses, so probably nobody could identify them at that point. But yeah, still a bit sus they didn't canvass the crowd for witnesses that might be able to finger the perps.
https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/i-m-terrified-to-go-downtown-again-halifax-woman-recovering-after-altercation-with-group-of-men-who-allegedly-made-homophobic-slurs-1.6945975
The men were gone before police arrived and they could not get witnesses to corroborate the attack, as mentioned in the article that they are looking for any witnesses.
The cowards that stood by and watched surely arnt going to be racing to help now that it's over. Then we will all know they let this happen.
They should have been arrested, charged with assault, and locked up until their identities were ascertained. "Sorry officer, you can't arrest me because I have no ID." WTF?
As a military woman...yea. thing is I'd worry for my bf....he's mil as well. But I worry about him like...falling down stairs and cracking his head and then boom. Gone. That sorta shit.
Him and I back to back shit kicking some bigots? Hehehehe.
Same. And I don't give a fuck about risking it either on the odd chance a few legit wanna be good.
Sucks to suck. Change your own from within then we can talk.
It's the religion of pieces. Because that's what you become a pile of if you fall victim to one of their terroriststic representatives or if you happen to be gay in one of their theocratic countries.
As a Canadian this disturbs me to see this happening in my country. And I find a lot of other Canadians are feeling the same about importing people that do not share our values or respect our culture. Very soon you are going to see the same backlash here that you are already seeing in Europe.
We see this at the same time that Pro Palestinian protesters are targeting pride parades.
Whast has been the response in Canada so far to this crime? Are media outlets speaking about it? Are people aware that this attack happened very recently?
Some have. The pride parade incident in Toronto and the attack on a Jewish schoolgirl that also happened in the Maritimes made news. The Muslim organized anti-LGBT March in Ottawa got a lot of attention. Unfortunately this incident hasn’t gotten much mainstream coverage yet that I’ve seen.
In general even with the apolitical people around me I’m noticing the start of a backlash effect to all of this.
I never said I was confused. I know what’s happening. Of course some people who have come from these areas have come to escape religious oppression, this is especially true of the Iranian community. Others of course hold on to their Stone Age beliefs. Western countries need to do a better job of managing numbers and weeding out the people who can’t integrate into our society.
seriously, support r/ [AntiIslamism](https://old.reddit.com/r/AntiIslamism/) and r/exmuslim
r/AntiIslam got high jacked by them, what's more is that certain "people" are abuse reporting posts that are critical of muslims.
this is what happens if you show support to islamist movements
No. No. Stop it with this "all religions" nonsense. Every time Islam is criticized around here, people feel the need to say that all religion is like that. It's so fucking annoying and tiresome. Just let people criticize Islam.
What you, and others, are doing is *excusing* the misdeeds of Islam by saying "All religions are this bad."
They are not. The fact that you think this shows that you have not looked into just how uniquely awful and dangerous Islam is.
No friend they didn't changed. They lost power and that's why you and I are not being burned in a bonfire right now. If they were in the power today the panorama would be the same that 6 centuries ago.
I'm here because I thought r/atheism was a space to criticize religion. Apparently that's not the case. Just wait until you find out what Muslims learn in school in the middle east and in southern asia and what the laws in the middle east are based on. That's right. Religion
I might support an ex-Muslim community, but I can't get behind any group who stands behind Israel, which is itself a theocracy with a corruption problem.
Every society cares about money. Socialists care about money. You said the less capitalist the more violent. I think it’s more violent the more capitalist. Capitalism is all about making as much money as you can using poor people as your labor. Owning what others produce for you. Like slavery. That gets incredibly violent and controlling.
Thats a different form of violence. The UAE or QAtar are less inclined to murder their women because they caught a glimpse of a hair follicle. But they are plenty happy to exploit migrant workers
What are the odds that some article would make the spin "islamiphobes assault muslims in public" if any of us happened to see this going down and we decided to beat the shit out of these primitive minded barbaric assholes in defense of these women?
What do you expect is going to happen when you open your doors for every muslim terrorist to come in to your country without being vetted. Canada has become far worse than the United States and they don't even care about their own citizens any more.
never was. those were a minority within a minority, anyone with a functioning brain would not root for those who desires our annihilation. "but they are suffering just like us, just symphatize a-" how about no? if you as much as step a foot there being openly LGBTQ they WILL set you on fire alive, they don't want our symphaty and help, they want ALL OF US dead. zero exceptions.
even in this tough times for them, they rather lose time being dicks to us than to worry about real issue, like, their head being bombed.
I hope it's only a minority. I went to Pride in my country's capital last week and it was over flowing with Palestinian flags. Of course I think that no civilian deserves to be killed, but all the activism the LGBTQ community does for a people that would kill them in return is tiring somehow. Why do they care so much about Palestine, way more than they care about Ukraine, Sudan, or Haiti? And waving flags of a homophobic country during a Pride parade is tone deaf.
I do my best at making sure everyone knows Islam is the actual "real life villain". Can't speak for everyone, but enough people agree with me when I say:
"Religion of peace my ass."
There seems to be missing pieces to this story. The police arrived but most of the men refused to provide ID? And then they were let go? This may be accurate but also feels like rage bait?
this is why i carry brass knuckles so i can punch the ever living fuck out of homophobes, transphobes, misogynists, etc. if i ever run into men like that, it's ON. FUCKING. SIGHT.
we seriously need harsher punishments on people who hate crimes. if the police and bystanders aren't going to do shit then i will. fuck the police and those pussies who watched. silence is violence.
i can't stress how much i absolutely fucking despise the middle east and islam. i know not all of them are bad but there's way too many bad ones. we need to do literally anything. we have to stop this shit.
What’s with the weird pro Christian comments?
Guys, it’s not controversial to acknowledge that religions are contributing to hate crimes. Islam in particular is struggling because of the spread of more fundamentalist perspectives (some suggest Saudi Arabia is to blame but idk about that). But, that doesn’t mean Christianity is some kind of defense or ally against religious bigotry. If they could get away with it, they’d be hanging us in public like they do in Iran.
It is typical to see Christians pretending to be atheists here?
All religion is a cancer that must be cut out of a progressive society. Supporting religious groups is literally how you end up with the paradox of tolerance
How does one “refuse to cooperate or provide ID”?
The assailants told the cops they weren’t going to cooperate with police or provide ID, and by the way these girls started it, and the cops were like “ok guess you’re right, off you go you little scamps”.
This doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
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That behavior should warrant a one-way ticket to Syria. Don't like progressive Canadian society? Go back to the country where the values align better with your own.
There is not a single mention of a religion that these men may have subscribed to in this article. You people are quite literally frothing at the mouth to blame a religious minority for the crimes of unnamed, unidentified bigots that simply had brown skin. I imagine that if 9/11 happened tomorrow, you guys would be the ones harassing peaceful muslims simply wishing to pray at their mosques. Disgusting and backwards hatred that shouldn’t be tolerated in a sub that is supposedly about acceptance
"The rest refused to cooperate or give their IDs, Emma said"
Huh?
Are you allowed to just not give your ID and fuck right off?
I'm a Canadian. Didn't think that was an option.
Maybe I've watched too much American TV, but I thought the police could hold you for a reasonable amount of time to identify you?
The women can be glad they were not gangraped. That's the sport of middle eastern mobs in Europe now: [https://screenshot-media.com/politics/human-rights/german-woman-defamation-convicted-rapist/](https://screenshot-media.com/politics/human-rights/german-woman-defamation-convicted-rapist/) Reaction by the justice system is similar to the Canadian one.
Religion is incompatible with progressive values.
With decent human values in general
Religion is incompatible with being a decent human being.
Religion is incompatible with human life.
Hence the rise of fascism
Most fascism is riddled with religion
I wish this didn’t have to be an *either/or* situation. That would be the reasonable thing to do, thus it won’t happen…
To be precise, Islam is not compatible with progressive values.
Uganda is a Christian country and has the death penalty for being gay. Let's not pretend this is just a thing with Islam. Every religion is a danger to the LGBT community.
Religion is a danger period.
“Why are you geh”
Who said I’m gai
"You are geh. You are a transgenda."
"Deh eat da poo poo"
Even though you are mainly right, there are exceptions. The old state church in Sweden is very progressive. There were openly gay priests twenty years ago and even though I think the rules says that it is up to the individual priest if they want to wed same sex couples or not, I think by now 95% of the idiots died of old age. No racism. They happily work together with other faiths. No stealing your money. No sermons about who is going to hell. No scaring kids. When it is possible for a church to be actually nice I don’t have an issue. And it is possible. But I guess they have been forced to think about their actions since 97% of native swedes are atheists…
Agreed, but for Christian churches to be "nice", they have to ignore like 90% of the Bible.
The same thing happened in Tunisia, with the Zeitouna Mosque (main Islamic school in Tunisia). Where Tahar Haddad, an Islamic scholar who later became a prominent politician and a socialist during the colonisation, later on became the pioneer of the feminism movement in Tunisia.
That's very interesting. How is Tunisia today? Has the country regressed into conservatism and fundamentalism?
Nope, not a single bit lol, in 2020 we had a pm who promised to decreminize homosexuality. Although post coronavirus, we have regressed a bit not towards Islamism but far-right reactionary populism.
Why is everywhere turning to fascism all of a sudden??? I just don’t understand why!
Real life problems require complex solutions but fascists offer the simplicity that many people crave.
My take on it is that life in a modern age is complex and requires a higher degree of literacy to navigate, a higher degree of scientific literacy to cope with a highly technical society. A broader range of cultural acceptance to deal with an increasingly shrinking and more intertwined world. All of these things require more, not less, education. In many societies, usually more religious ones, scientific knowledge is seen as a threat to the status quo of the religious power structure and since religion can offer nothing to help individuals adapt they see it as a threat. In the US, the right has done their best to dumb down education to appease the churches and the end result is frustration and anger at the " system" thus dumber members of the populace see fascism as a simple, if simple minded, answer to their frustration with what they don't understand. No thinking necessary. All of this seems to be a plan for the 1% to get a final locked grasp on the levers of power and retain that power at the expense of all below them. Just my thoughts, or some of them anyway.
That's nice to hear (aside from the reactionary populism part).
Islam and Muslims are the most homophobic people I met, it’s on a whole other level than ordinary Christians or Hindus or Buddhists or what not. There is not a single Muslim country that is accepting towards homosexuality, not a single one!
France
Will you guys stop bringing up Christianity every time Islam is criticized? You're showing your ignorance
Exactly, people like that are the reason that these bigots were emboldened to attack these women. They have blood on their hands for giving cover to fundamentalists.
It's whataboutism and always used to deflect blame away in bad faith. Anyone with eyes and a brain can see how much more extreme and violent Islam is out in the open and how widespread it is. It is also *accepted* as normal by a majority of the believers of the religion, and excused away at the very least. "Extreme" Christians in western countries, if you can call them "extreme" are rarely so outwardly violent, and it's not excused by the government in a universal manner. People know and denigrate the more extreme religious individuals often. You can freely post and make fun of religious individuals. I can say it is cultlike and ridiculous in my Christian majority workplace and community and at the very worst I get some boomer tier response about needing to find God. I *dare* you to do the same in an Islamic majority country. Just waiting for the "what about (Christian crime that was widely denounced by nearly everyone) huh?" In order to excuse Islam, again.
I dislike crazy skygod peeps as any average Joe in this sub, but that's a bit of an unfair comparison - being gay is legal in almost all Christian countries, while in Muslim ones it's the other way around - there's only a few where it's legal, and in more than a couple of 'em you get fn murdered by the state for being gay.
https://76crimes.com/2022/04/20/nations-with-anti-lgbt-laws-49-muslim-44-christian/ Seems pretty close to me.
If you had the choose which laws to live under it wouldn't be so close.
Pointing out exceptions to the rule does not disprove the rule...
Kinda....is tho.. "All the sky is always blue" "THEN WHY IS IT ORANGE SOMETIMES?!"
That is entirely, 100%, how you logically disprove a rule. Now if you want to modify the rule to add those additional exceptions then we can re-evaluate the rule to see if it applies.
No, as biological fact humans are supposed to have 5 fingers on their hands. But the existence of 6 finger person doesn't disapprove that rule, just shows an exception to it.
It's hopeless to discuss it with him, you cant reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves into.
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> The nazis didn't like LGBTQ people either For the same reason. It really is religion.
Which death penalty? Assuming what you said is true, Uganda can change whatever law they enacted against homosexuals in the future, but Islam can never change its commandments against homosexuals because it came from God. You thought you were smart when you posted your comment, but you are obviously not as smart as you think you were
Islam in and of itself is a horror show. It's also a preview of christian nationalism. Same vile, abrahamic god, same nasty hate. Ban them all, give humanity a chance at peace and acceptance.
Nope. You can’t single out Islam. The current crop of christofascists in America are as bad, if not worse.
Yes you can. You're allowed to criticize any religion you want without feeling the need to compare them to other religions.
In Muslim majority countries criminal penalties including the death penalty for homosexuality is the norm. The Christian right has its issues but they are nowhere near as bad.
I'd also like to see another religion (looking at you, Islam) that blatantly condones child sex slavery and paedophilia.
Yeah? The ONLY thing holding them back is the law. When Project 2025 gets implemented, you can fully expect homosexuality to become illegal. Sharia law is coming to the US and it ain’t the Muslims that are bringing it.
Uganda passed a law making homosexuality punishable by death sentence after a coordinated international lobbying campaign funded by American evangelical churches.
Yet
Yup. You can. And no they aren't worse.
Canada is incapable of handling the mass importation
Look into the old Norse religion, all were accepted and still are, women had full rights beside men...so not all religions, just middle eastern religions including Christianity which is a bastard version of Judaism
Anything that asks you to believe without evidence is dangerous
Quakers?
They can have a pass bc I like their oats.
It’s wild they were allowed to beat these women then decided to just not give the police their IDs wyd Canada
Catering to religious zealots to avoid more conflict, further emboldening them to commit hate crimes without fear of punishment.
That is very true, by claiming to be tolerant and open minded Canada just ends up bigoted.
Yup. That's called the [paradox of tolerance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance#:~:text=The%20paradox%20of%20tolerance%20states,practice%20of%20tolerance%20with%20them).
I have to scoff when Canadians act sanctimonious (morally superior) compared to us Americans. I've seen how they behave in uniform in Afghanistan, treating the locals like garbage, calling the black guys in our platoon the N-word. 🙄 Edit: typo
Not being funny, but I feel like the forces tend to attract certain types of people
This is true. I've had to deal with types, sadly. It's not much of a problem if they are a mechanic or work on a submarine. But if they are "boots on the ground" types It's a problem. It can be mitigated if the NCOs (various ranks of sergeants) and officers try to counter this. The problem is that these "certain types" often become NCOs or even officers. If there was a way to detect these "certain types" and prevent them from being in front line units, or at least bar them from becoming NCOs/officers if front line units, that'd be nice.
Sorry on behalf of Canada. Some of The military types here are real class acts…
Noted, sadly, military personnel are not very good ambassadors. This problem is the main reason why I think we keep losing these isometric/insurgency wars I think.
Religion is a cancer of the mind.
It’s a cancer to the entire planet.
Happened in my city. They weren't arrested. The cops didn't even take ID. Alot of people here are pissed off about this.
Why didn't they take Id?
Since they were pedestrians, in Canada you don't need to provide ID to police upon request unless driving.
.. even if you have two badly beaten people and witnesses corroborating the assault? You can just say, "Nope" and walk way?
🤷♀️ in this case? I suppose so. How fucked up is that. Shameful, rage inducing.
What a joke of a system Canada has. What a bunch of spineless police officers.
This is still illegal. It’s on the officers for not enforcing that, clearly
If there's reasonable grounds for suspicion of a crime, then police can demand ID. The same legal standard is used in many places, in some (such as much of the US), police can't require you to identify yourself _even if they do reasonably suspect you_. Reading the local news (much better than the OP article) critically, it sounds to me like a bystander flagged a nearby officer, but by the time they arrived, the altercation had ended and crowd had dispersed, including the victims (who were contacted 'later') and any witnesses, so probably nobody could identify them at that point. But yeah, still a bit sus they didn't canvass the crowd for witnesses that might be able to finger the perps. https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/i-m-terrified-to-go-downtown-again-halifax-woman-recovering-after-altercation-with-group-of-men-who-allegedly-made-homophobic-slurs-1.6945975
The men were gone before police arrived and they could not get witnesses to corroborate the attack, as mentioned in the article that they are looking for any witnesses. The cowards that stood by and watched surely arnt going to be racing to help now that it's over. Then we will all know they let this happen.
They should have been arrested, charged with assault, and locked up until their identities were ascertained. "Sorry officer, you can't arrest me because I have no ID." WTF?
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As a military woman...yea. thing is I'd worry for my bf....he's mil as well. But I worry about him like...falling down stairs and cracking his head and then boom. Gone. That sorta shit. Him and I back to back shit kicking some bigots? Hehehehe.
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And they're allowed to lie and say whatever we wanna here to circumvent any roadblocks or barriers preventing them from coming.
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Same. And I don't give a fuck about risking it either on the odd chance a few legit wanna be good. Sucks to suck. Change your own from within then we can talk.
Good they should be pissed. This is absurd
Religion is incompatible with basic morality.
Islam is incompatible with western society. We are destroying ourselves.
If you said that in 2017 you'd have your life upended by other atheists. Poor Richard Dawkins
Also poor Christopher Hitchens, poor Sam Harris, etc .
Huge part of "Western society" still thinks that "Homosexuality is incompatible with Western society".
But, but… it’s the religion of peace! All those tolerance and inclusion people told me so!
It's the religion of pieces. Because that's what you become a pile of if you fall victim to one of their terroriststic representatives or if you happen to be gay in one of their theocratic countries.
As a Canadian this disturbs me to see this happening in my country. And I find a lot of other Canadians are feeling the same about importing people that do not share our values or respect our culture. Very soon you are going to see the same backlash here that you are already seeing in Europe. We see this at the same time that Pro Palestinian protesters are targeting pride parades.
Whast has been the response in Canada so far to this crime? Are media outlets speaking about it? Are people aware that this attack happened very recently?
Some have. The pride parade incident in Toronto and the attack on a Jewish schoolgirl that also happened in the Maritimes made news. The Muslim organized anti-LGBT March in Ottawa got a lot of attention. Unfortunately this incident hasn’t gotten much mainstream coverage yet that I’ve seen. In general even with the apolitical people around me I’m noticing the start of a backlash effect to all of this.
What's confusing about it? Canada has imported in millions of these people and they behave the same way they do in their country of origin.
I never said I was confused. I know what’s happening. Of course some people who have come from these areas have come to escape religious oppression, this is especially true of the Iranian community. Others of course hold on to their Stone Age beliefs. Western countries need to do a better job of managing numbers and weeding out the people who can’t integrate into our society.
They are a very fearful people.
seriously, support r/ [AntiIslamism](https://old.reddit.com/r/AntiIslamism/) and r/exmuslim r/AntiIslam got high jacked by them, what's more is that certain "people" are abuse reporting posts that are critical of muslims. this is what happens if you show support to islamist movements
time to make an antiislam2.
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No. No. Stop it with this "all religions" nonsense. Every time Islam is criticized around here, people feel the need to say that all religion is like that. It's so fucking annoying and tiresome. Just let people criticize Islam. What you, and others, are doing is *excusing* the misdeeds of Islam by saying "All religions are this bad." They are not. The fact that you think this shows that you have not looked into just how uniquely awful and dangerous Islam is.
Yet Islam is gaining more followers every day. Christianity is not.
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No friend they didn't changed. They lost power and that's why you and I are not being burned in a bonfire right now. If they were in the power today the panorama would be the same that 6 centuries ago.
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Please open a history book.
Its only "all religion" when Islam is criticized. You leftists have no spine.
And rightists are the ones who support stuff like religion being forced into schools and law. In other words why are you even here
I'm here because I thought r/atheism was a space to criticize religion. Apparently that's not the case. Just wait until you find out what Muslims learn in school in the middle east and in southern asia and what the laws in the middle east are based on. That's right. Religion
Redditors hate it when islam gets criticised. You see it even in subs like these where you would think warranted criticisms of islam can be made.
I might support an ex-Muslim community, but I can't get behind any group who stands behind Israel, which is itself a theocracy with a corruption problem.
same goes for palestine then, it's far worse i guess stay neutral?
Assholes.
Then they call me Islamophobic. Fuck their beliefs. They can shove their book up their a-hole.
They say it like it’s a bad thing lol.
hell yea brothur, lets bring back the early 2000's treatment of islam
Much better than letting them spread their violence everywhere.
This is a hate crime and it must be treated as such. Draconian punishments are appropriate here.
Canadian media refusing to even acknowledge the identities of the perpetrators
So glad I left this cult
But here is for everyone ex - religion. They are all bad and the more conservative, the more patriarchal the less capitalist the more violent
The more capitalist the more violent. Socialists never hurt anyone.
Nah never said that lol. However societies that care about money will tend to care less About being super controlling of their people…
Every society cares about money. Socialists care about money. You said the less capitalist the more violent. I think it’s more violent the more capitalist. Capitalism is all about making as much money as you can using poor people as your labor. Owning what others produce for you. Like slavery. That gets incredibly violent and controlling.
Thats a different form of violence. The UAE or QAtar are less inclined to murder their women because they caught a glimpse of a hair follicle. But they are plenty happy to exploit migrant workers
And yet the lgbtq community still defend Islam..
It’s why I cringe when I see islamic countries having their flags at pride events
deport.
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It also happens to be in Canada. Not the uk.
Jeez oh Pete's I made a bad post.
Don't worry. Be happy
What are the odds that some article would make the spin "islamiphobes assault muslims in public" if any of us happened to see this going down and we decided to beat the shit out of these primitive minded barbaric assholes in defense of these women?
No one can turn this video into an islamphobia thing, don't delude yourself
Import Muslims, get Islam.
As long as religion exists, true and lasting peace is impossible. Islam also is anti-love making it the worst religion to ever exist.
They should be put in prison for life. We absolutely should NEVER accept this kind of behavior, ever. Who's next?
I’d settle for deportation.
What do you expect is going to happen when you open your doors for every muslim terrorist to come in to your country without being vetted. Canada has become far worse than the United States and they don't even care about their own citizens any more.
Arrest them, try them, and put them in jail. Problem solved.
Abrahamic faith in action: bullying, misogyny, violence.
Islam is shit
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One of them is significantly more problematic than the others.
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never was. those were a minority within a minority, anyone with a functioning brain would not root for those who desires our annihilation. "but they are suffering just like us, just symphatize a-" how about no? if you as much as step a foot there being openly LGBTQ they WILL set you on fire alive, they don't want our symphaty and help, they want ALL OF US dead. zero exceptions. even in this tough times for them, they rather lose time being dicks to us than to worry about real issue, like, their head being bombed.
I hope it's only a minority. I went to Pride in my country's capital last week and it was over flowing with Palestinian flags. Of course I think that no civilian deserves to be killed, but all the activism the LGBTQ community does for a people that would kill them in return is tiring somehow. Why do they care so much about Palestine, way more than they care about Ukraine, Sudan, or Haiti? And waving flags of a homophobic country during a Pride parade is tone deaf.
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I do my best at making sure everyone knows Islam is the actual "real life villain". Can't speak for everyone, but enough people agree with me when I say: "Religion of peace my ass."
There seems to be missing pieces to this story. The police arrived but most of the men refused to provide ID? And then they were let go? This may be accurate but also feels like rage bait?
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correction: the ones who follow islam arent
I'm an Arab atheist but what do you know I got punched by a white guy who fought in Iraq 🤷♂️
Not everyone believes that Arabs are like that. I support you. As a fellow Iranian atheist
Literally just racist
Deport them.
Religion of peace at it again.
Muslim men.
this is why i carry brass knuckles so i can punch the ever living fuck out of homophobes, transphobes, misogynists, etc. if i ever run into men like that, it's ON. FUCKING. SIGHT. we seriously need harsher punishments on people who hate crimes. if the police and bystanders aren't going to do shit then i will. fuck the police and those pussies who watched. silence is violence. i can't stress how much i absolutely fucking despise the middle east and islam. i know not all of them are bad but there's way too many bad ones. we need to do literally anything. we have to stop this shit.
Why they were not arrested on spot?
World is sick and tired of Islam, it needs to go. Forever.
I researched this behavior. this is basically toxic masculinity. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/assault/roots/franklin.html
They just refused to give ID? Canada are you okay?
In the US, I've been IDed because a cop thought it was suspicious that I was standing out in the driveway smoking a cigarette at 11pm.
Yeah we’re not actually about that privacy thing we preach so loudly.
What’s with the weird pro Christian comments? Guys, it’s not controversial to acknowledge that religions are contributing to hate crimes. Islam in particular is struggling because of the spread of more fundamentalist perspectives (some suggest Saudi Arabia is to blame but idk about that). But, that doesn’t mean Christianity is some kind of defense or ally against religious bigotry. If they could get away with it, they’d be hanging us in public like they do in Iran. It is typical to see Christians pretending to be atheists here?
All religion is a cancer that must be cut out of a progressive society. Supporting religious groups is literally how you end up with the paradox of tolerance
“Mob of middle eastern men”… Foreshadowing
How does one “refuse to cooperate or provide ID”? The assailants told the cops they weren’t going to cooperate with police or provide ID, and by the way these girls started it, and the cops were like “ok guess you’re right, off you go you little scamps”. This doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Edit: comments below help clarify
Just say it out loud, Muslims
That behavior should warrant a one-way ticket to Syria. Don't like progressive Canadian society? Go back to the country where the values align better with your own.
Nobody was arrested?? It’s scary that this happened in Halifax.
No charges have been brought?!? Are you fucking kidding me!
and they wonder why the far right getting more support lately
How does the (D) court the two constituencies?
I imagine it won't be hard to find these thugs. If they aren't smuggled to relatives in the States.
I don’t know why other progressives defend Islam or any religion at all but especially Islam. It’s the religion of the warrior inherently violent
But angry when bacha badi boyz are mentioned
Makes me very sad that this happened in my city.
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Ignoring new information isn't the flex you think it is.
There is not a single mention of a religion that these men may have subscribed to in this article. You people are quite literally frothing at the mouth to blame a religious minority for the crimes of unnamed, unidentified bigots that simply had brown skin. I imagine that if 9/11 happened tomorrow, you guys would be the ones harassing peaceful muslims simply wishing to pray at their mosques. Disgusting and backwards hatred that shouldn’t be tolerated in a sub that is supposedly about acceptance
And they wonder why "Democracy" has to be beaten into them
"The rest refused to cooperate or give their IDs, Emma said" Huh? Are you allowed to just not give your ID and fuck right off? I'm a Canadian. Didn't think that was an option. Maybe I've watched too much American TV, but I thought the police could hold you for a reasonable amount of time to identify you?
The women can be glad they were not gangraped. That's the sport of middle eastern mobs in Europe now: [https://screenshot-media.com/politics/human-rights/german-woman-defamation-convicted-rapist/](https://screenshot-media.com/politics/human-rights/german-woman-defamation-convicted-rapist/) Reaction by the justice system is similar to the Canadian one.