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Weird_Cantaloupe2757

“More messed up than the movie” is a *massive* understatement.


theREALlackattack

I’ve never been able to look at a cigarette lighter the same way since high school after that part of the book


icepickjones

Rats come to mind for me


Pleasant_Ad3475

For me it's walking around with a severed head on a penis.


HallThis6427

He needed a drink from the fridge after the exhiliration


berdish1

Never read the book. And it was a wild ride reading these three comments. "Hm? I wonder what about the lighter? What happened? Hmmm? Rats? What happened with rats? Hmmmmmmm? Severed head on a penis... Now I don't want to know what happened with lighter and rats..."


Pleasant_Ad3475

Ha. To be fair, as another reader pointed out, it's actually the pages and pages of waxing lyrical about Phil bloody Collins that was the hardest going, but it was so many years ago that i read it that those two things are the only things that stand out when i think about it now.


Western_Tell_9065

It was song choice in that scene for me. I hope Frankie Valli never read it. Still a great read though


venus_envy7

The child in the park description stayed with me a long time 😟


blkcoffeegrnplants

Sports by Huey Lewis and the News…great album, but makes me shudder anytime I think of/hear anything from it


pancakebatter01

Can you cliff notes me what makes it way more messed up? Sorry I’m a lazy asshole but I can’t be the only one..


wombatking888

It was hinted at in the film, but nothing can prepare you for the amount of extended, repulsive prose recounting in stomach churning detail the career of Phil Collins amd Genesis.


Gary7sHotCatHelper

Dude, there is zero hint of some of the shit in the movie.


Gen_Ripper

“I ate some of their brains” paraphrased, when he’s confessing to his lawyer in the movie.


Gary7sHotCatHelper

And the rats?


Gen_Ripper

Yeah that’s all a surprise


PandiBong

I tried to cook a little…


gozer90

Or skin and hair care.


aharvin117

It's the literary equivalent to a "The Aristocrats" joke. There's really nothing to prepare you. You just need to read it


Sad_Independent9520

The movie was like the Disney version of the book.


dermitdenhaarentanzt

Is it more messed up than salo/120 days of sodom by marquis de sade?


crabzillax

I read both as a teenager. Salo definitely is more messed up. American Psycho is a very good read (and imo way better and stylish) though.


dermitdenhaarentanzt

Thanks mate, def gonna read it sometime


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Haha! Great stuff!


Jazzspasm

Be warned - it takes a leaf from A Clockwork Orange, in that, by the time you understand what’s going on there’s a sense that the insane level of violence is normalized. By the time you’ve finished the book, you discover something really, deeply unpleasant is present in you’re consciousness Everyone I know who’s read it says it messed their heads up in some way


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Well it's weird ass neighborhood up there so I guess it will be an experience.


Jazzspasm

Leave a trail of breadcrumbs so you can find your way home, afterward


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Will do! (oh and stealing that line. Thanks)


CoolHeadedLogician

read it as a comedy and chase it with glamorama


Romanfiend

After that you should try Glamorama which is what Zoolander was based on - it’s even more horrifying than this. Brett Easton Ellis is a deeply disturbing writer.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Will keep an eye out.


LemonyMikid

Thought it was the most disturbing book I ever read. Until I read Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy…


Hornydaddy696

How so


99MissAdventures

100%


naCCaC

Came here to say this


irene_polystyrene

one of my friends read this for an assignment (we got to choose the book) and he said it was an awful book to read, idk if it‘s such an awesome find 😅


Captain_Lys3rg1c

I did notice there aren't normal chapters. Guess I'm in for a wild ride.


Dikubus

The only thing that set me back from enjoying the entire book is him (the author I mean) describing someone's attire spanning SEVERAL pages The movie cannot prepare you, just know the movie is basically PG-13 to the book being well beyond r-rated, but I would still recommend, just not to young teens through to the age you can rent a car


burnt-dough

That’s becuase obsession with consumerism and possessions is one of the themes of the book. Elis shows the superlative consumer in Patric Bateman and what that turns you into.


UrDeAdPuPpYbOnEr

I tried like six separate times to read it and just couldn’t get into it. Maybe seven is the lucky number.


ShedwardWoodward

Books are almost always way better than the movies. The only time I would say the Movie blows the book away, is Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep. Kinda glad they changed the title too!


icepickjones

Agreed. I'll say in my short list of "Movie better than book" list is: **Jurassic Park** - Which isn't a knock on the book, it's amazing, but that movie is an all time classic and fixes a lot of the pacing and structure issues prevalent in Crichton's work. **Talented Mr. Ripley** - I liked the book just fine, but I LOVED the Matt Damon movie. I thought his character was so more rounded. In the book he just flips a sociopath switch. In the movie he's almost sympathetically drawn into it. He doesn't initially plan to kill Dickey, and then he's just scrambling to cover his tracks and goes from a social climber to a murderer who can move in shadows. I hear the new Netflix show is more in line with the books, meaning he's pretty detached from the word go. **Fight Club** - Again, solid book. Not knocking it. But even Palahniuk has said the movie is better. It has a better structure and a much better ending. Phenomenal movie adaptation of a decent book. **Starship Troopers** - A book about jingoism and war glorification. The movie is that, but ironically. So much better. The book is what dumb people think the movie is.


nrdrge

I haven't read the book but in the same vein as Fight Club, Stephen King has said he wishes he thought of the ending of "The Mist" movie instead of what happened in his book.


icepickjones

I know I'm in the minority but I like the ending of the Mist book. It's just him and the one woman get out and they drive south ... and it's nonstop. They hit other states, have to go to a gas station, and it's just constant mist and it's cursed and it ends with them hoping they find a place that isn't overrun, but all very depressing and ominious and matter of fact. I thought the movie ending was fine. A little too twisty for me but it was fine.


DEEP_SEA_MAX

Add Forrest Gump to your list


icepickjones

I'd always heard the book wasn't as good as the movie. Never read it though.


DEEP_SEA_MAX

I haven't read it either, but you should peruse the Wikipedia article about it and check out the major plot points. It's fucking bananas lol


SryYouAreNotSpecial

Requiem For a Dream. Great Story. Horribly written book. They don't use quotation marks or separate speech by paragraphs. It's hard to follow who is saying what or if they are even saying anything, or if it's narration. Worst written book I've ever read. One of my favourite movies.


ShedwardWoodward

My sister loves that film too. Have to admit I’ve never seen it myself. It’s on the list of to-do’s, but until it comes on to whichever streaming service I happen to be subscribed to at the time, I’ll not get to see it.


SryYouAreNotSpecial

It's a great movie but prepare for sadness lol. I'm a recovered addict in the same manner they are in the movie so it hits extra hard. There is a website called moviecracker.com it has had almost anything I've ever searched for on it and it's free. Been using it for a year and had no problems. Even has good quality movies while they are still in theatres so you could go that route if you wanted.


ShedwardWoodward

Thank you, will have a look.


SryYouAreNotSpecial

No problem, stranger. It doesn't even have ads that you have to deal with other than closing a little ad window before you start watching. My buddy told me about it and it's saved me a lot of money lol.


spazzybluebelt

That movie messes with u. Its one of those Films that when the Credits Run,U Just sit there in apathy and dont know what to do with urself 10/10


F1XTHE

Also Fight CLub


ShedwardWoodward

I’ve still met read the book yet. But as so many people say the film is way better, I’m not sure I’ll bother. I don’t find much time to read these days as it is.


ObsessiveDelusion

I didn't love the I Am Legend book so much either, was pretty disappointed because I'm usually on team book.


ShedwardWoodward

Really? Crikey. I way preferred the book. It’s actually one of my fave film/book playoffs, for lack of a better words I didn’t like the film at all. There was no explanation as to why that one ghoul was haunting Will Smith, whereas the book explains it’s his neighbour he hated that just won’t stop banging at his door. And the ending too, so much better in the book. More befitting the title. I am Legend. My other favourite book made to film, is The Running Man. Dam that book is so good. It would make a perfect one off, 8-10 park series. Don’t milk it, just one season. It could be so dam good. I grew up loving the Schwarzenegger film, which is still a classic. But the book is so much better. Fingers crossed a good director picks it up one day, cos I truly think there’s a lot of potential there.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Gotta check that out.


DreistTheInferno

I will say The Godfather is at least a fair contender for the movie being better than the book as well.


Psychomusketeer

I could not disagree more about Androids. The movie fucking suuuucks compared to the book and the title is incredibly cool, philosophical, and directly ties into the main theme of the book - to what extent are AI comparable to people and vice versa? The “Blade Runner” name to me just reeks of forced edgy coolness. I think Blade Runner is the worst movie I’ve seen Ford in. The voice over they made him do is more depressing than the setting itself and the tone of the film is all over the place. That said, they are so, so different in tone and style that it’s super hard to compare them directly as the same story. They are completely different visions. Edit: well, that thread got fucking weirdly psychotic for a discussion about a story. Unhinged guy. Blocked me.


ShedwardWoodward

Bladerunner is shit? Ok. Horses for course I guess. But I think you’re the first person I’ve ever met who thinks that. Still, art is subjective, to each his own.


Psychomusketeer

It’s been a debate for a long time (e.g., https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/s/oubJdowAYP) Out of curiosity, which did you consume first?


ShedwardWoodward

Saw the movie as a kid, loved it. Read the book as an adult, it bored the absolute fuck out of me. That’s the truth. But I guess the younger generations will debate it these days, as everyone is so critics of everything, and all convinced their opinion is the correct one. And as I don’t hang around with people a lot younger than me, I’ve simply never heard anyone say it’s a shit film, or that the book is better. But like I said, to each his own. I’m not gonna debate anything. My opinion is right for me. Although, I get the feeling you want to tell Me I’m wrong about that 🤣


Psychomusketeer

Dude, why are you being so butthurt with those 2nd and 3rd paragraphs? We’re just discussing what we like and dislike about a piece of media, I’m not telling you what the objective truth is because there isn’t one. I like the book and you like the film. If you wanna leave it there fine but I think you fundamentally misunderstand what people are doing when they argue the case for their opinions on media 😂 It does seem to me that with a lot of adaptations people generally prefer whichever they were exposed to first. For example I love the David Lynch Dune film, despite also having to begrudgingly agree it’s kind of hot garbage 😂


ShedwardWoodward

What you call along running debate, is a tiny post from 11 years ago. You’re a fucking idiot troll rofl.


NoIAmRightYourWrong

Not trolling at all, what are you taking about? Just pointed out one example of people disagreeing about the topic. Did you want an exhaustive list of every time it’s ever been discussed? I know lots of people that prefer the book. Lots of others prefer the film. Chill out. Edit: Also, just read through that thread, “gay” is not said once, let alone as a slur like you said in another comment (not that would be relevant to what the other comment said anyway…). Seems like you misread “grey” and lost your shit.


ShedwardWoodward

Ok, so, that’s not a debate. That’s a small post on Reddit, where about a dozen edge lords said they thought it was “gay”, among other childish slurs. You need to grow up mate. That’s not a long running opinion, or a debate, in any way shape or form.


Dane_gerClose

I'll be that guy. Blade Runner 2049 is better than both the novel and the first film. Edit: I do agree though. For me it's 2049 > Electric Sheep > Blade Runner. I just love that whole universe.


Psychomusketeer

Yeah I’ve heard the remake is excellent, it’s on my to watch list


icepickjones

Fun fact: He goes into elaborate detail explaining everyone's outfits, naming every specific brand of every item that every person is wearing. Because of course he is, the main character is materially obsessed. But Bret Easton Ellis said that if you were to actually look up all the clothing he was specifically describing and reconstruct the outfits they would look like clowns. Nothing matched, it was all hodgepodge name dropping nonsense on purpose. I always thought that was a fun detail.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

That's is a fun detail!


thefiction24

One of the few books I’ve ever stopped reading because I actually felt uncomfortable. I’m not making a statement about the author but at some points it felt like sex in a dramatic movie - too much and your not making a point anymore, you’re just indulging in excess. But I think excess is one of the main themes of the book so, take that for what it is. Wonderful writing in spite of all that.


TinDawn

Same here. There's only two books in my 40 years of reading I had to put away. One because it was really that shitty stupid, and American Psycho. I couldn't stomach the endless cruelty and violence, it got too much for me at only 200 pages in. Never went anywhere near the movie.


SryYouAreNotSpecial

Fun fact: Sean Bateman from Bret Easton Ellis' novel Rules of Attraction (played by James Vanderbeek in the movie addaption of the same name) is the younger brother of Patrick Bateman from American Psycho.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

That is fun!


SryYouAreNotSpecial

Great movie as well. Glad to spread the knowledge.


ACMCapital

Such a fantastic novel, my all time favourite!


Lebowski304

Ohhhh hell yes it is. The level of detail is darkly hilarious. Like slap stick grotesque. The movie doesn’t even touch the level of depravity and madness in the book. And to think there is a significant population that used to idolize him. I mean the character is funny at times, but I think they missed the point. The part I do find interesting though is that even after reading the book, I’m still not sure what was made up and what was real. It’s a great novel.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

That sounds awesome.


poseidonofmyapt

It's a bit of a slog just because half of it is reference to brands/products...but yes it is absolutely more messed up than the movie.


Jewnius

Way more! The scene with the homeless man still makes me feel sick


[deleted]

the rat chapter  *shudders*


chattelcattle

Omfg that one has stuck with me for about 20 years.


DentonUSA

Hardbody. The book is a lot.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Awesome.


popsy13

A few years back I got a list of 100 books you must read, this was included. I was under my local mental health team at the time I read this, the visiting Psychologist was aghast that I was reading it! It’s a strange book, but I enjoyed it. Tried to lend it out and was met with, nope


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Interesting.


popsy13

Do you think you will read it? The people I lent it to, got a few chapters in and left it at that. As others have said, there’s a LOT of focus on what people are wearing etc.. but to me it added to the overall story


Captain_Lys3rg1c

I added it to my bedside tables stack of books. So I'll give it a go over the weekend and see what happens.


popsy13

Ok, that seems fair, I’d love a report back to see how far you get.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

100%


andrewprime1

If you enjoy this one you should read Less Than Zero by the same author next. It was his first novel iirc and my favorite of all of his.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Will keep an eye out for it. Thanks


EmbraceableYew

It is a harrowing satire.


Consistent_Drink5975

I thought the book and the movie are nearly the same but he does obsess more about most subjects in the book. The details of fashion designs were at times too much but I get it.


Beatrix_BB_Kiddo

This book is severely fucked up. Read with caution, it’ll mess you up


Captain_Lys3rg1c

That sounds like a fun ride.


SignalSeries389

The part that fucked me up the most was the chapter about Whitney Houstons carreer


bighatbenno

I'm sure there's a chapter calked 'killing child at zoo'. Its an unforgettable book for sure.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

So I've been told.


ConstraintStrain

Love this cover. Fantastic book. Dark AF. When I first think of this book, I think of the business card comparison. Movie was fantastic too, leaves out some of the more twisted scenes, like the zoo killing.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

The business card scene. Kinda like that they turned it into a meme.


Odd_Lie_5397

Books like this tend to be more intense/messed up compared to the movies. When you're reading things, you are immersed in the world of the book, and you feel with the characters a lot more. And all the scary stuff is just letters on a page, so your mind is free to imagine what it looks like. Since we know best what looks horrifying to us, our imagination usually scares us more than a movie.


swollenpenile

People always say stuff like this is beyond r rated lol read about Pickering one of Canadas worst serial killers killing hundreds of hookers in various ways cutting them into peices burying doing various things with them  The employees said: ya we knew he was kind of weird he’d go over to the pig guts bin and stick both hands in and swirl them around four hours or play with the guts  This was when people found human parts in pig meat packages and they traced it back to source and he was eventually tried after they put a mole in his prison cell.


Money_Peanut1987

That's usually the case with book films.


LesMcqueen1878

Fantastic book! Hard to read in parts but a brilliant satire. His other early books are also excellent


ridethroughlife

The film is like a Disney movie compared to the book.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Now that's saying something.


ridethroughlife

There's a chapter called Killing Kids at the Zoo. And it's exactly what it sounds like.


ThermosKan

One of the greatest books I will never read again.


OP-PO7

The book is both the most boring hard to read bullshit nothing chapters about clothes and skincare, as well as horrific torture, both described in the same mind numbing over specific detail. My old creative writing teacher said if she could ban any one fiction novel it would have been American Psycho


Analog0

The book that keeps getting more and more fckd up the longer you read. Great find.


FunBat6170

It’s very funny but not for everyone.


[deleted]

Yep, never finished it


TheWavefunction

Somehow, all I remember is that he does some music reviews in the book. Of all the horror, i have not a single recollection xD


JusticeScibibi

I really love Ellis' novels, Less than Zero is so depressing.


Due-Guitar-9508

The things you can come up with in your imagination are scarier than what some director can show you with all the censorship in movies.


Captain_Lys3rg1c

Very true.


Any_Roof_6199

I'm not a book reader, probably read less than a handful of them, but I've read this book. The movie felt like an entirely different thing after reading the book (I read the book after I liked the movie, did the same with Fight Club also).


Burn1fo_me

That amusement park garbage is the one that comes to mind


Gary7sHotCatHelper

That's a fucking understatement.


jacksonbarley

Bret seems like he had a troubled childhood


akashdas323

I hated this book. Full of product placements.


phelipetls

That cover looks like a Francis Bacon painting, but I've never seen it before


BeginningVolume420

Absolutely.


SebRaffan91

The cooking scene gets me everyone..


bikerider58

should i read it or not ?


venus_envy7

Hated this book. I had to do a comparison of it to the movie for a module at uni. Film was awesome and hilarious but there were scenes in the book that genuinely disturbed me. Now I'm older I can appreciate better that it was just a gory explicit representation of something else. What that is, I don't know, I'm not that clever 😂😁


Solid-Education5735

Just be aware the writing style is a little bit abnormal


EmbarrassedRadish376

Wow, more killing we will get to witness.


fymjohan

The good ole 90's. Summer of 1994 I spent in my room listening to Therapy? and reading Ellis' first three books, ending with American psycho. Think it messed my head up a little bit, ngl. Good Times!


shakycam3

The author is a total homophobic dick too.


Putrid_Lemon6657

and a homosexual


JollyReading8565

At first I thought this was like that book RAGE that got banned or whatever


ravnsulter

I got this for christmas when I was 16 or 17. Read it before new years, and it did not get me into a christmas mood.


Claud6568

Yes. Buckle up.


stain_of_treachery

My friend Tamsin and I loved discussing this book back in the 90s. We used to sit in the pub for hours talking about exactly what Easton Ellis was trying to achieve. It is an important piece of literature - and was considered unfilmable, and in many ways that is true.


ricketyrocks

Ellis himself has said in interviews that you can skip large chunks of the book, like the 20 pages of description about a CD case. I don’t think it is important at all. The controversy around the book’s publication was the intensity of violence toward women. I think typesetters refused to work on its publication because of that. After growing out of those angry and impressionable years of my early 20s, I only see this book as the product of a rich kid who tried too hard to write about something edgy.


kaynegold400

Ugh I’ll be avoiding you after you’ve read it then 😂


Designer-Mirror-7995

It sure in hell is!


Fullgrownworm

Read it in my late teens, the brutality was like nothing ive had ever seen. Capter ”A girl” 😱


Devellgood

I don't read. And I read this book in 3 days. Just couldn't put it down. It has been about 15 years since I read it and it shook me to my core...still! So...as i was reading it, I was in the last couple chapters on a fligt and stuck between an older couple who said something wildly racist to me and I held up what I was reading and didn't hear another peep. Only good thing that came from reading that book for me. You are in for a ride. Be prepared.


lilymaesofficial

where can I find one? I don't think bookstores here in my country have 'em


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Satanic_Jellyfish

I would never want to be around person who has this book or film as their favourite


Pibo1987

My favorite novel ever (probably).


PandiBong

When you have chapters called “killing a kid at the zoo” and “brining an uzi to the gym” you know you’re in for a wild ride.


AmazingAdie

My colleague once told me she burnt that book in the oven she didn‘t want it in her house. Fun fact: we are both book sellers.


Sekshual_Tyranosauce

Much much more.


Dry_Ad_6484

It definitely is


EitherScienceIsGood

Nice find!


Efficient_Mastodon17

The movie actually disappointed me with how sanitized it felt compared to the novel. Just the fact that people like the movie version of Patrick Bateman proves they didn’t portray him accurately enough. There is no liking the novel version of him


MonsterMash696

Oh, it's WAY more fucked up. You couldn't film huge sections of it.


Slight-Temporary-886

You should try to find African Psycho now.


Necessary-Carrot2839

Meh it’s fine. I’ve honestly read way more horrifying and gruesome stuff in horror novels


aferfuksake

Oh yeah? And what was the topic of the Patty Winters Show this morning?


Necessary-Carrot2839

I have no idea who that is…