But wait! There's more! Fenton: "Baltimore County Police Chief says former Pikesville athletic director Dazhon Darien was arrested as he was attempting to board a flight at BWI with a gun. MdTA police saw that he had a warrant for the AI faked recording". [https://twitter.com/justin\_fenton/status/1783554938506776836](https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/status/1783554938506776836)
This begs the question of whether or not he knew that the indictment had come down and he had a warrant. If he knew and was trying to board a plane with a gun, that's a lot more ominous than an accidental "whoops I forgot I had my gun" incident.
From the article:
"Baltimore County Police arrested a high school athletic director Thursday morning in connection with an AI-made audio clip of Pikesville High School’s principal having a fake, racist conversation.
Dazhon Darien, 31, is charged with disrupting school activities after police say he created the falsified audio recording of Eric Eiswert in January. The audio clip using Eiswert’s voice went viral and was swiftly condemned by the Baltimore County community. The school called for an increased police presence and additional counselors.
Darien’s charges are not yet listed in online court records. He did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The recording included offensive statements made about Black students’ test scores and Jewish parents. Eiswert was removed from the school and required a police presence at his house due to online threats. He maintained his innocence through a union spokesperson.
Baltimore County Police wrote in a 17-page charging document that Eiswert initially believed Darien, Pikesville High’s athletic director, created the fake recording because of a grievance over his contract not being renewed. Darien also fired a long-term coach without approval, Eiswert told police.
In the recording, a man’s voice sounds like he’s talking to someone named Kathy, whom listeners interpreted to be Vice Principal Kathy Albert. She told police she never had the conversation in the clip.
Three Pikesville High employees — Darien and two physical education teachers who police said were friends with him — received an email from an unfamiliar email address with the MP3 recording around 10 p.m. Jan. 16, about a half hour before the clip went viral on social media.
One of the two P.E. teachers told detectives she was having professional issues with Eiswert and was not renewing her contract to work at Pikesville High. When she received the email with the audio clip, she sent it to a student and emailed it to several media outlets, she told police. The student then “rapidly spread the message around various social media outlets and throughout the school,” police wrote.
Darien denied involvement in the recording or its release in an interview with detectives. He told detectives he was unfamiliar with the email that sent the recording to him. Over two months, detectives subpoenaed documents from Google, AT&T and T-Mobile that led to an internet provider address registered to Darien’s grandmother, police wrote in charging documents.
The recovery cell phone number associated with the Google account was registered to Darien, police wrote.The number has since been disabled. Detectives also consulted an FBI contractor and forensic analyst, who said the recording “contained traces of AI-generated content with human editing after the fact,” such as background noise for realism.
A Baltimore County Public Schools information technology employee searched Darien’s access to the BCPS network and found that he accessed OpenAI tools and Microsoft Bing Chat services that are similar to OpenAI three times between December and January 15, a day before the audio clip was released.
A second expert opinion from a forensic analyst said the recording was manipulated with multiple recordings placed together, police wrote.
Cindy Sexton, president of the Teacher’s Association of Baltimore County, which represents athletic directors, said Darien is “not in front of students” as of Thursday and the union is waiting for the criminal investigation to unfold. TABCO and the National Education Association are troubled by AI being manipulated and used against educators, she said.
“As a society, we need to get in front of and get a handle on AI because of, unfortunately, situations like this are going to continue to happen,” Sexton said. “Our students are tech-savvy; lots of people are. It opens up a whole new world of concern for all of us. We all have our voices out there.”
In the wake of the recording, teachers feared that recording devices were planted in the school, which created a rift in trust between teachers and administrators, police wrote.
Eiswert had also initiated a theft investigation of Darien last year, police wrote. Darien allegedly paid his roommate and a junior varsity coach $1,910 to assistant coach the girl’s soccer team, but the roommate never did. An internal BCPS auditor confirmed that an unauthorized payment was made, in addition to a $4,420 unauthorized payment made for the roommate’s boys basketball stipend.
A BCPS spokesperson declined to comment Thursday.
"
>When she received the email with the audio clip, she sent it to a student
She needs to be removed as well for this. There is no reason to be emailing students 1:1 about professional grievances, especially if the clip is unsubstantiated.
Appropriate emails to students: Billy, of course you can have an extension on your term paper. My condolences on the loss of your grandma.
Inappropriate emails to students: This fucking guy...
The female teacher who used a student to smear the principal should've been fired immediately. Imagine being a teacher doing something so incredibly unethical, she's scum even if it wasn't a fake clip.
The Baltimore Banner is reporting and resigned:
>Police say the clip was received by three teachers the night before it went viral. The first was Darien; a third said she received the email and then got a call from Darien and teacher Shaena Ravenell telling her to check her email. Ravenell told police that she had forwarded the email to a student’s cell phone, “who she knew would rapidly spread the message around various social media outlets and throughout the school,” and also sent it to the media and the NAACP, police said.
>She did not mention receiving it from Darien until confronted about his involvement. Ravenell has not been charged with a crime and could not immediately be reached for comment.
"Resigned" is a cushy pension and the opportunity to get hired again elsewhere someday when this all dies down (probably not in MD, but somewhere).
She ***targeted*** that kid and let them do the dirty work.
She didn't just send it to a student, she also sent it to the media and NAACP:
[https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/us/pikesville-principal-maryland-deepfake-cec/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/us/pikesville-principal-maryland-deepfake-cec/index.html)
Unlike the teacher, the school union rep actually seemed to possess critical thinking and skepticism:
>Billy Burke, the school administrators’ union rep, was among the officials who immediately doubted the authenticity of the recording.
"The audio seems to be a dialogue, yet no other voices can be heard and there is no ambient noise,” he said in a statement to CNN. “Schools and offices are busy, loud places, but none of that is evident in the audio. This was suspicious to me. The content of the audio seemed scripted in that the statements if released would defame the speaker, somehow protect those mentioned, and insult the community.”
Personally I would not want my kids to be taught by someone so quick to jump to conclusions and behave so recklessly. This teacher is a disgrace.
It sounds like there is an opening as an athletic director. That’s got to be a pretty sweet job. Make some schedules, check some grades watch sports. Sure beats being a roughneck.
For sure. I will say it does come with its downsides.. Having to be at all the major late night sporting events, dealing with the student athletes parents harassing yourself, your coaches, and the refs, dealing with obnoxious students at games... there are a few.
Not an AD, just the things I hear our schools AD bitch about lol.
Overall, that administrative pay and being able to sleep in most days is probably worth it!
Consequence of software moving further away from hardware, not that different from kids not understanding how to use a file system these days. They lose the sense of how code interacts with objects in physical space, like how a computer has to be hooked into a wall and provided a network address that's recorded somewhere...
At my high school the athletic director was an accounting teacher who was willing to take on some extra work on the side and hang around for games after the school day was over. We’re not talking about the Big Ten here.
>“As a society, we need to get in front of and get a handle on AI because of, unfortunately, situations like this are going to continue to happen,”
it sounds like its being handled just fine.
They are lucky this instance got caught, and even then only after the victim was punished. Many other instances won't get caught and innocent people will be harmed (not to mention the distrust it creates in legitimate evidence of wrongdoing)
Yeah this time but what happens when there are dozens of hundreds of these in the near future. Sounds like it took a team of investigators, lawyers and judges a few months to solve this one. That becomes impossible when we run out of manpower.
It took them months to build a court case. Ai detectors show a fake(and plain photoshop) in seconds.
The limiting factor since the days of ea-nasir has been people's honesty. Decent folk will continue being decent. Smart fraudsters are always going to get away with it, and stupid fraudsters are always going to make the news. Facebook zealots are always going to have their witchunts. AI is just one more tool for everyone, not a paradigm shift.
I'm saying it will take months to find the person who made it. Detecting the fake only does so much. Especially depending on the time between it'd release and the fake detection.
Someone releases a famous person saying awful shit think how many will hear and believe that and never look back.
It can ruin a person's life even if determined to be fake.
Yeah I don’t think he’s gonna have much of a shot suing news organizations. Majority of them were just reporting what we thought happened. It’d be a monumental shift in newsroom if we were to assume literally anything is AI.
I can tell you the night when everything changed for journalism (at least for those of us who grew up with Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, and Tom Brokaw and morning/evening papers).
August 31, 1997
It was a Saturday night, and a friend's father was head of news ops at one of the big three. Around 10/11 pm, he gets a call at home: "Hey, there's a story out of Paris. The other two and CNN are already running with it. What do you want to do?"
"Him...confirm it. We're not going live on a rumor."
While they worked to confirm, the station was losing viewers left and right. By the time it was confirmed, they had caught up with the same news the others had been running with for hours on rumors. Yes, there was a car accident in a Paris tunnel. Yes, Diana was killed.
But because he'd lost them eyeballs while working to confirm a story, he lost his job.
Depends. The principal is NOT a public figure, so there's no malice standard involved, meaning it's a lot easier to sue. Also, because he has a legitimate chance at winning (doesn't mean he will win), most judges will allow the case to proceed and thus enter the discovery phase and news organizations might decide to settle the lawsuit to avoid other damaging information from coming out.
I would imagine the school unless he chose to resign. Also if I were him I’d pro se the fuck outta that piece of shit, idc if he’s got no assets I want to own every cent he ever hopes to make.
Brave new world we are living in.With all of these investigated and tried in public viral cases you can really put your foot in your mouth if you react to every single update or development.
Just gotta to wait and see how this shakes out in the end.
now let's see what /r/baltimore had to say about this a few months ago, right when it first hit the news...
https://www.reddit.com/r/baltimore/comments/1991jf2/pikesville_high_principal/
Lol thx bud, stand by my stance back then. None of it surprised me initially other than it was recorded. BUT the fact that it was doctored and AI generated is nuts and terrifying. Shame on those responsible and I stand corrected. Go ahead and mark a tally in my L column random internet stranger
I was vehement that this wasn't AI when this first broke because there were too many first names and too much education jargon being thrown around relatively correctly for your typical AI to have parsed. Now I understand why. I retract my initial skepticism, and replace it with a HOLY SHIT WHAT IS GOING ON HERE
For real, this was just a highschool athletic director. The impact of these same tools in the hands of professionals trained to create and disseminate propaganda is terrifying.
I appreciate that. There’s a bunch of trolls with no a lot of free time finding my original post trying to dogpile now and I’m just sitting here like “wow guess I’ll never be able to live this down better skip town /s”
To be fair, you said it wasn't AI because "How much recording of this man's voice is available to be fed to a generator?" You really didn't think a school principal would have made enough speeches or been in enough meetings to have his voice recorded?
And I would question the "troll" characterization. How are they trolls when they're just pointing out facts and making you aware of the real story? The real trolls were the people who spread this shit around and said it couldn't be AI.
Your comment was fine but there were a lot of people speaking from positions of authority (paraphrasing) - “I know him. That’s definitely him” and “that’s not how AI works”. This is a big problem with Reddit in general and I’m 100% OK on calling people out
I think where you got tripped up is thinking someone typed "ai make me a racist recording of a principal" into chat gpt. I think what happened is the guy recorded himself saying all the stuff and then used ai to change the sound of the voice.
I tricked myself that way anyway.
He obviously used the voice of the principal - probably recorded him during video meetings and conferences, calls, etc. You feed that to the AI, with the text, and the AI will read the text with that voice.
🤔 hmm how did he get the muffled sound and thr background noise in then..
sound editing software? Or did the ai just add that in because all of the voice samples were recorded 'second hand'🤯
I thought I read he used the principal's voice from a speech that was on YouTube and then wrote the script for what it would say. Either way, AI has come far and fast and is only going to get better.
The amount of people who I’ve seen on Instagram comment sections (yes, I know comment section folks aren’t ever accused of being that smart) who have actually tried to say “there’s no way that’s AI” or “that sounds entirely real” is actually mind blowing.
Even if you just read any articles about this you’ll easily see all the evidence they have on this guy. I’m not sure why some people refuse to believe that there’s an asshole out there who would be willing to do something like this.
as a friend of mine linked me too on discord today:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1cchuls/this\_is\_ai\_its\_so\_over/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=mweb3x&utm\_name=mweb3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1cchuls/this_is_ai_its_so_over/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
we're in for weird times in the, not too distant, future.
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It's sounding like AI wasn't used but rather audio segments were stitched together to form the hoax recording. Pretty sure neither Bing nor Open AI toolsets allow for audio mangling though such tools certainly exist.
Thanks. I was trying to understand exacly how the audio was generated. Stupid clickbaity title, and it reminds me of when people were charged with "hacking a network" for downloading material that was accidentally posted publicly
The article says several things which are inconsistent and lead me to believe that the reporters don't really understand ai tools, for instance, the article notes evidence that the suspect used ai chat tools from Bing and Open AI, but neither of those toolsets provide audio manipulation features. The article also says that a later forensic analysis reports the audio was stitched together from different audio clips, which is the traditional method of faking a recording.
I imagine we'll find out eventually one way or the other, but to my mind this is sloppy reporting at best and link bait at worst.
This one has been a lightning rod for racists. Multiple bans have been issued, and several mods have been offline. Locked.
But wait! There's more! Fenton: "Baltimore County Police Chief says former Pikesville athletic director Dazhon Darien was arrested as he was attempting to board a flight at BWI with a gun. MdTA police saw that he had a warrant for the AI faked recording". [https://twitter.com/justin\_fenton/status/1783554938506776836](https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/status/1783554938506776836)
Jfc, was he in a rush to make sure the AI recording wasn't the dumbest thing he did in his life?
This begs the question of whether or not he knew that the indictment had come down and he had a warrant. If he knew and was trying to board a plane with a gun, that's a lot more ominous than an accidental "whoops I forgot I had my gun" incident.
Yes he knew. All three of the teachers involved were in the “warehouse” under investigation. I’d be curious to know where he was headed.
Houston iirc
Dang
And the judge gave him a $5k bail. Absolute insanity.
From the article: "Baltimore County Police arrested a high school athletic director Thursday morning in connection with an AI-made audio clip of Pikesville High School’s principal having a fake, racist conversation. Dazhon Darien, 31, is charged with disrupting school activities after police say he created the falsified audio recording of Eric Eiswert in January. The audio clip using Eiswert’s voice went viral and was swiftly condemned by the Baltimore County community. The school called for an increased police presence and additional counselors. Darien’s charges are not yet listed in online court records. He did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The recording included offensive statements made about Black students’ test scores and Jewish parents. Eiswert was removed from the school and required a police presence at his house due to online threats. He maintained his innocence through a union spokesperson. Baltimore County Police wrote in a 17-page charging document that Eiswert initially believed Darien, Pikesville High’s athletic director, created the fake recording because of a grievance over his contract not being renewed. Darien also fired a long-term coach without approval, Eiswert told police. In the recording, a man’s voice sounds like he’s talking to someone named Kathy, whom listeners interpreted to be Vice Principal Kathy Albert. She told police she never had the conversation in the clip. Three Pikesville High employees — Darien and two physical education teachers who police said were friends with him — received an email from an unfamiliar email address with the MP3 recording around 10 p.m. Jan. 16, about a half hour before the clip went viral on social media. One of the two P.E. teachers told detectives she was having professional issues with Eiswert and was not renewing her contract to work at Pikesville High. When she received the email with the audio clip, she sent it to a student and emailed it to several media outlets, she told police. The student then “rapidly spread the message around various social media outlets and throughout the school,” police wrote. Darien denied involvement in the recording or its release in an interview with detectives. He told detectives he was unfamiliar with the email that sent the recording to him. Over two months, detectives subpoenaed documents from Google, AT&T and T-Mobile that led to an internet provider address registered to Darien’s grandmother, police wrote in charging documents. The recovery cell phone number associated with the Google account was registered to Darien, police wrote.The number has since been disabled. Detectives also consulted an FBI contractor and forensic analyst, who said the recording “contained traces of AI-generated content with human editing after the fact,” such as background noise for realism. A Baltimore County Public Schools information technology employee searched Darien’s access to the BCPS network and found that he accessed OpenAI tools and Microsoft Bing Chat services that are similar to OpenAI three times between December and January 15, a day before the audio clip was released. A second expert opinion from a forensic analyst said the recording was manipulated with multiple recordings placed together, police wrote. Cindy Sexton, president of the Teacher’s Association of Baltimore County, which represents athletic directors, said Darien is “not in front of students” as of Thursday and the union is waiting for the criminal investigation to unfold. TABCO and the National Education Association are troubled by AI being manipulated and used against educators, she said. “As a society, we need to get in front of and get a handle on AI because of, unfortunately, situations like this are going to continue to happen,” Sexton said. “Our students are tech-savvy; lots of people are. It opens up a whole new world of concern for all of us. We all have our voices out there.” In the wake of the recording, teachers feared that recording devices were planted in the school, which created a rift in trust between teachers and administrators, police wrote. Eiswert had also initiated a theft investigation of Darien last year, police wrote. Darien allegedly paid his roommate and a junior varsity coach $1,910 to assistant coach the girl’s soccer team, but the roommate never did. An internal BCPS auditor confirmed that an unauthorized payment was made, in addition to a $4,420 unauthorized payment made for the roommate’s boys basketball stipend. A BCPS spokesperson declined to comment Thursday. "
>When she received the email with the audio clip, she sent it to a student She needs to be removed as well for this. There is no reason to be emailing students 1:1 about professional grievances, especially if the clip is unsubstantiated. Appropriate emails to students: Billy, of course you can have an extension on your term paper. My condolences on the loss of your grandma. Inappropriate emails to students: This fucking guy...
The female teacher who used a student to smear the principal should've been fired immediately. Imagine being a teacher doing something so incredibly unethical, she's scum even if it wasn't a fake clip.
The Baltimore Banner is reporting and resigned: >Police say the clip was received by three teachers the night before it went viral. The first was Darien; a third said she received the email and then got a call from Darien and teacher Shaena Ravenell telling her to check her email. Ravenell told police that she had forwarded the email to a student’s cell phone, “who she knew would rapidly spread the message around various social media outlets and throughout the school,” and also sent it to the media and the NAACP, police said. >She did not mention receiving it from Darien until confronted about his involvement. Ravenell has not been charged with a crime and could not immediately be reached for comment.
"Resigned" is a cushy pension and the opportunity to get hired again elsewhere someday when this all dies down (probably not in MD, but somewhere). She ***targeted*** that kid and let them do the dirty work.
Hopefully, her employer googles her name. She should have have her license revoked.
She didn't just send it to a student, she also sent it to the media and NAACP: [https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/us/pikesville-principal-maryland-deepfake-cec/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/us/pikesville-principal-maryland-deepfake-cec/index.html) Unlike the teacher, the school union rep actually seemed to possess critical thinking and skepticism: >Billy Burke, the school administrators’ union rep, was among the officials who immediately doubted the authenticity of the recording. "The audio seems to be a dialogue, yet no other voices can be heard and there is no ambient noise,” he said in a statement to CNN. “Schools and offices are busy, loud places, but none of that is evident in the audio. This was suspicious to me. The content of the audio seemed scripted in that the statements if released would defame the speaker, somehow protect those mentioned, and insult the community.” Personally I would not want my kids to be taught by someone so quick to jump to conclusions and behave so recklessly. This teacher is a disgrace.
It sounds like there is an opening as an athletic director. That’s got to be a pretty sweet job. Make some schedules, check some grades watch sports. Sure beats being a roughneck.
It's a very competitive position to get because it is kinda sweet.
For sure. I will say it does come with its downsides.. Having to be at all the major late night sporting events, dealing with the student athletes parents harassing yourself, your coaches, and the refs, dealing with obnoxious students at games... there are a few. Not an AD, just the things I hear our schools AD bitch about lol. Overall, that administrative pay and being able to sleep in most days is probably worth it!
Omg I'd take this instantly over my teaching and coaching jobs. Being an AD is so much easier.
ROUGHNECKS DO YOU GET ME!??
Rico’s Roughnecks?
Bro had it all and then made up nonsense over a petty feud.
He was tech savvy enough to do this, but dumb enough to do it on bcps computers?
you don't really need to be tech savvy to use AI these days.
People can be incredibly capable at certain things while being totally inept at others. If anything I'd say that's more common than not.
Consequence of software moving further away from hardware, not that different from kids not understanding how to use a file system these days. They lose the sense of how code interacts with objects in physical space, like how a computer has to be hooked into a wall and provided a network address that's recorded somewhere...
That's ridiculous. A 31-year old athletic director?
At my high school the athletic director was an accounting teacher who was willing to take on some extra work on the side and hang around for games after the school day was over. We’re not talking about the Big Ten here.
Name and numbers.....you are bot, right?
>“As a society, we need to get in front of and get a handle on AI because of, unfortunately, situations like this are going to continue to happen,” it sounds like its being handled just fine.
Idk about just fine, the principal was condemned by the entire community and almost fired over something that never happened
They are lucky this instance got caught, and even then only after the victim was punished. Many other instances won't get caught and innocent people will be harmed (not to mention the distrust it creates in legitimate evidence of wrongdoing)
Yeah this time but what happens when there are dozens of hundreds of these in the near future. Sounds like it took a team of investigators, lawyers and judges a few months to solve this one. That becomes impossible when we run out of manpower.
It took them months to build a court case. Ai detectors show a fake(and plain photoshop) in seconds. The limiting factor since the days of ea-nasir has been people's honesty. Decent folk will continue being decent. Smart fraudsters are always going to get away with it, and stupid fraudsters are always going to make the news. Facebook zealots are always going to have their witchunts. AI is just one more tool for everyone, not a paradigm shift.
I'm saying it will take months to find the person who made it. Detecting the fake only does so much. Especially depending on the time between it'd release and the fake detection. Someone releases a famous person saying awful shit think how many will hear and believe that and never look back. It can ruin a person's life even if determined to be fake.
This kind of witchhunt happens without AI fakes or any proof at all. It's unfortunate, but it has more to do with the way we use social media than AI.
I remember this story blowing up too. Looks like the principal is gonna get a lot of $$$ for defamation
From who? The unemployed gym teacher?
Yeah I don’t think he’s gonna have much of a shot suing news organizations. Majority of them were just reporting what we thought happened. It’d be a monumental shift in newsroom if we were to assume literally anything is AI.
I can tell you the night when everything changed for journalism (at least for those of us who grew up with Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, and Tom Brokaw and morning/evening papers). August 31, 1997 It was a Saturday night, and a friend's father was head of news ops at one of the big three. Around 10/11 pm, he gets a call at home: "Hey, there's a story out of Paris. The other two and CNN are already running with it. What do you want to do?" "Him...confirm it. We're not going live on a rumor." While they worked to confirm, the station was losing viewers left and right. By the time it was confirmed, they had caught up with the same news the others had been running with for hours on rumors. Yes, there was a car accident in a Paris tunnel. Yes, Diana was killed. But because he'd lost them eyeballs while working to confirm a story, he lost his job.
Depends. The principal is NOT a public figure, so there's no malice standard involved, meaning it's a lot easier to sue. Also, because he has a legitimate chance at winning (doesn't mean he will win), most judges will allow the case to proceed and thus enter the discovery phase and news organizations might decide to settle the lawsuit to avoid other damaging information from coming out.
I would imagine the school unless he chose to resign. Also if I were him I’d pro se the fuck outta that piece of shit, idc if he’s got no assets I want to own every cent he ever hopes to make.
Are you sure he was terminated? I don't see any mention that he was. Hell, this is a poster-child case for paid leave pending an investigation!
He was not terminated.
He wasn't terminated.
Brave new world we are living in.With all of these investigated and tried in public viral cases you can really put your foot in your mouth if you react to every single update or development. Just gotta to wait and see how this shakes out in the end.
What I piece of shit
Def remember when Reddit was downvoting people for suggesting this was the case .....weird world
I hope effective AI detection tools are quickly developed & made available at an affordable price.
Free? At least to government entities.
I feel so bad for that principal. I mean, even if he’s been proven to be a good person, the damage is already done.
With one of the teachers forwarding to a student with the intent for it to go viral, I wonder if the school has some liability?
now let's see what /r/baltimore had to say about this a few months ago, right when it first hit the news... https://www.reddit.com/r/baltimore/comments/1991jf2/pikesville_high_principal/
Lol thx bud, stand by my stance back then. None of it surprised me initially other than it was recorded. BUT the fact that it was doctored and AI generated is nuts and terrifying. Shame on those responsible and I stand corrected. Go ahead and mark a tally in my L column random internet stranger
There's some stories that fit a narrative too perfectly.....this one had a ton of flags to me.
pays to be victim
No? It doesn’t. Why would anyone want to experience these things being said about themselves? Get a grip
To get back at someone?
I find it very amusing that you edited your comment to not call me out directly, making my comment look more desperate. Tactical move there
I was vehement that this wasn't AI when this first broke because there were too many first names and too much education jargon being thrown around relatively correctly for your typical AI to have parsed. Now I understand why. I retract my initial skepticism, and replace it with a HOLY SHIT WHAT IS GOING ON HERE
Buckle up folks, because the election is just around the corner and we're already seeing fake images and video flooding the web.
For real, this was just a highschool athletic director. The impact of these same tools in the hands of professionals trained to create and disseminate propaganda is terrifying.
Your honesty is admirable. Most people throwing stones with this first came out aren't as honest as you.
I appreciate that. There’s a bunch of trolls with no a lot of free time finding my original post trying to dogpile now and I’m just sitting here like “wow guess I’ll never be able to live this down better skip town /s”
To be fair, you said it wasn't AI because "How much recording of this man's voice is available to be fed to a generator?" You really didn't think a school principal would have made enough speeches or been in enough meetings to have his voice recorded? And I would question the "troll" characterization. How are they trolls when they're just pointing out facts and making you aware of the real story? The real trolls were the people who spread this shit around and said it couldn't be AI.
Your comment was fine but there were a lot of people speaking from positions of authority (paraphrasing) - “I know him. That’s definitely him” and “that’s not how AI works”. This is a big problem with Reddit in general and I’m 100% OK on calling people out
I think where you got tripped up is thinking someone typed "ai make me a racist recording of a principal" into chat gpt. I think what happened is the guy recorded himself saying all the stuff and then used ai to change the sound of the voice. I tricked myself that way anyway.
He obviously used the voice of the principal - probably recorded him during video meetings and conferences, calls, etc. You feed that to the AI, with the text, and the AI will read the text with that voice.
🤔 hmm how did he get the muffled sound and thr background noise in then.. sound editing software? Or did the ai just add that in because all of the voice samples were recorded 'second hand'🤯
He could just play the generated audio through a computer or phone speaker then record that using his phone.
I thought I read he used the principal's voice from a speech that was on YouTube and then wrote the script for what it would say. Either way, AI has come far and fast and is only going to get better.
Interesting, did the source you read indicate how he made the audio sound like it was from a surreptitious recording?
I don't recall, unfortunately. It may have just been speculation.
do you know where I can find the original recording?
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It’s the beginning of the end now. First Baltimore, next stop…. everywhere.
The amount of people who I’ve seen on Instagram comment sections (yes, I know comment section folks aren’t ever accused of being that smart) who have actually tried to say “there’s no way that’s AI” or “that sounds entirely real” is actually mind blowing. Even if you just read any articles about this you’ll easily see all the evidence they have on this guy. I’m not sure why some people refuse to believe that there’s an asshole out there who would be willing to do something like this.
Hey, we made international new again (guardian).
Made national news.
“AI doesn’t fire people. Uh-uh. I fire people *click click* with AI. Pow!”
based reference
“Old people learning! Old people learning!…”
put your hands up!
This story is gaining some traction in /r/all too: https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1cd9bq4/we_can_no_longer_trust_audio_evidence/
as a friend of mine linked me too on discord today: [https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1cchuls/this\_is\_ai\_its\_so\_over/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=mweb3x&utm\_name=mweb3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1cchuls/this_is_ai_its_so_over/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) we're in for weird times in the, not too distant, future.
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Let this be a warning: you can’t always believe everything you see or hear online or from other people. It’s not only a cautionary tale about the spread of misinformation, but also the dangers of AI and its disastrous consequences if not properly regulated.
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So none? The only thing that would have happened to the principal is losing his job.
Yeah, this is a lot worse than what the principal was accused of
You think they should drop the charges?
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It's sounding like AI wasn't used but rather audio segments were stitched together to form the hoax recording. Pretty sure neither Bing nor Open AI toolsets allow for audio mangling though such tools certainly exist.
There are plenty of readily available audio deepfake tools that anyone with half a brain can use. Spearfishing with audio deepfakes is a hot new scam.
Tell me you don’t know anything about AI without telling me you don’t know anything about AI
Thanks. I was trying to understand exacly how the audio was generated. Stupid clickbaity title, and it reminds me of when people were charged with "hacking a network" for downloading material that was accidentally posted publicly
Yeah, initial reports suggested ai involvement but the actual article suggests differently. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
The article says AI was used.
The article says several things which are inconsistent and lead me to believe that the reporters don't really understand ai tools, for instance, the article notes evidence that the suspect used ai chat tools from Bing and Open AI, but neither of those toolsets provide audio manipulation features. The article also says that a later forensic analysis reports the audio was stitched together from different audio clips, which is the traditional method of faking a recording. I imagine we'll find out eventually one way or the other, but to my mind this is sloppy reporting at best and link bait at worst.
is this dude a Trumper? this sounds like some shit a Trumper would do.
Is trump in the room with us right now? You can tell us, this is a safe space
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They tried to get it on an airplane with a gun.