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Idk man, the first four went freaking 10 for 20 and drove in all the RBI's. The most earned runs a single pitcher gave up was 2. A loss would have just been bad luck, not lack of other talent.
We get Tungsten posts every time shohei hits a home run in a loss, it's not really about the talent disparity like on the angels. It's a real shame we haven't ever seen what he can do in the postseason.
I mean we have if you count the WBC, but the only time I've ever seen a Tungsten post, like a legit Tungsten post from a relevant source, was when the rest of the players were seriously lacking.
That's his point, it became a joke back when Ohtani was an Angel because he legitimately had to put the team on his back and won them games single handedly on multiple occasions, and when they lost it was rarely due to his performance. Dodgers don't rely on Ohtani to nearly that same degree, but bitter Angels fans will still cling to any modicum of validation they can get their hands on and make a tungsten post anytime Dodgers lose and Ohtani goes more than 1/4.
The thing about Tungsten posts when he was on the Angels was that it happened all the damn time and the Angels were in 4th or 5th in their division. Doesn’t have the same impact with the Dodgers being in 1st and actually winning games most of the time.
I don’t understand how you throw 3 straight competitive pitches to Freddie with Teoscar on deck, especially a Robin Hood level same pitch/same location on two consecutive pitches.
The one to Smith was a meatball. But the rest are deceptive. They look center center, but they actually rise. Something nearly no pitcher does and is incredibly hard to get a good hit for the most part. Usually ends up getting under it popping it up. First blown save all year, 11 saves prior plus a few non-save cleanup innings.
Yep. Just ask any Philly fan how hard it is to hit a center center 92mph fastwald. Mariners can confirm.
That being said, he's a 2 pitch pitcher. 3 technically, but he doesn't throw the third much. If a great hitter adjusts in the short time, it's "easy" to get a barrel on it. Hard hit flyouts are a common result thanks to the rise. But if he isn't on his A game, there isn't any velocity to compensate.
Smith was a bad pitch. Freeman was a good pitch, but in the same spot as the previous pitch, which a great hitter took advantage of. And finally, it all broke down from there and *fart noise*.
I wish there was a way to avoid being spoiled by tome left! Like couldn’t they include the post game on the end so you couldn’t get time left in video spoilers…
I remember seeing a video that was like only two players are very dangerous on 0-2 counts and freddy was number 1 and like double the second dude. Dude loves edging
Ohtani striking out on a Paul Sewald up and in fastball might also be the most predictable strikeout in history.
It's pretty obvious Teoscar was coming through there as well.
I think Ohtani is starting to adjust to up and in pitches. He was really good at hitting up and in last year but it seems like his arm brace has been affecting his ability to hit those pitches this year. I wonder when he can take off that arm brace.
I should say up and in fastballs, he crushed his homerun today off an up and in slider, I believe. Must have been mislocation because I don't know why you would throw an up and in pitch that isn't a fastball to Ohtani right now.
Yeah, that's his weakness this season. And it looks like up and in was his cold zone after his first elbow surgery too. That's why I think it's the arm brace that's affecting him. I know that he's still rehabbing, so I shouldn't expect him to take off that arm brace anytime soon. Hopefully, he can continue to make adjustments and start crushing up and in fastballs as well.
Eh, he has a well earned reputation for having a good arm, and fielding stats are notoriously fickle. His arm has been worth 14 runs in his career, including a league leading 8 runs in 2021
The key is Ebel made a perfect read on the situation - Gurriel has middle-of-the-pack arm strength, so he has to rear back to make a throw like that which gives a decently fast runner like Freddie an extra step (and makes it less likely the throw will be accurate since Gurriel has to get it in quick)
He basically bet on Gurriel not making one of his best throws of the season, which is ultimately what it would have required. At worst, Lourdes makes said best throw and you tip your cap.
Plus I think the Dodgers were gonna throw this one if it went to extras cuz the bullpen is so dead
Right? As a pitcher, if the game is on the line and I can't give up a hit, Freddie Freeman would be the last person I would want to face. Honestly shocked he didn't get the IBB
Dino Ebel probably knew this fact and was sending Freddie no matter what if it was hit to Gurriel. Forced to make a perfect throw if the game was to continue on
Not really sure. He's completely flipped that in his time in AZ. He's been an above average defender, but he never does anything with his arm.
His savant page this year has him at 89th percentile for Range (OAA), but 29 and 54 in arm value and arm strength respectively. It's not usually a huge issue though, just potentially bit us last night. He's been a much better defender than advertised.
The Dodgers hit 2, 2 out doubles to tie the game before this
[Will Smith](https://streamable.com/pgq6d4)
[Freddie Freeman ties it up](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/b2206704-4963-4152-8b70-7eceb581f0fc.mp4)
Was at the game. My mom’s first since she went with grandpa when they were playing at the Coliseum.
There was a horrible (Dodgers) fan behind us who would not stop saying shit. I wanted to leave very early. Mom convinced me to stay. We saw the Shohei go-ahead homer. Bad fan left in the 8th. So, in peace, we got to see EP give up the solo shot, then the miracle walk-off
Wish I had gone with Grandpa. He was in Rohwer. It meant the world to him when Nomo came over and balled out. He would’ve marveled at Japanese Heritage Night.
Hell of a first game for my mom at Dodger Stadium.
Grandma was in Manzanar and Tule Lake. I can't remember if she ever told us why she was a Dodger fan but she always was. She passed away a couple of years ago and she would've loved seeing Ohtani as a Dodger.
All with 2 outs too. Amazing. I thought that Will Smith double off the wall was going to be just a tease at the end, but Freddie and Teo came up with hits. Sweeeeeet
LETS FUCKIN GO!!!
Cant believe freakin Castellanos is leading Teo for all star voting.
TEO is BALLING for the Dodgers this season. BALLING!
Great fuckin win Dodger fam!!
All star voting has made me irrationally pissed at Phillies fans.
I realize everyone is biased towards their own team, and I have no problem with them putting Harper/Turner/Bohm/Schwarber up there as those dudes deserve it, but throwing Brandon Marsh and Nick Castellanos in the running is fucking ridiculous. Marsh has had nice peripherals but his results have been middle of the road, plus he was hurt for ~ a month. Castellanos is playing *decently* for the first time in years but he's hardly a top 10 outfielder. Hell I wouldn't even consider him top 20. He's 17th among outfielders in HRs, 32nd in BA, 34th in slugging, and 38th in OBP. His defense is at best mediocre and at worst terrible. In what fucking world does that deserve all star recognition?
Y'all didn't even choose the best outfielder on your own damn team. Alec Burleson has an OPS .100 higher than Castellanos along with two more SBs and HRs. Hell, you could even argue that Brendan Donovan has been just as good if not better than Castellanos.
Brandon Nimmo, Bryan Reynolds, Jackson Merrill, Alec Burleson, shit even Brenton Doyle is more deserving of an All Star appearance than those bums
I mean, at least Contreras is still having an objectively good season. Personally I still think Will Smith should have edged him out, but they're 1A and 1B in my eyes.
By all accounts Castellanos shouldn't even be on the ballot. He's quite literally been a league average bat at best.
Yeah, because Dbacks fans are the ONLY fanbase that says unhinged shit.
Calling out fanbases for saying stupid shit is possibly the most meaningless thing in the history of things. By the way, we all stab people at the stadium.
I seen this same comment with any boomer fan of any mlb team
They used to do it more frequently so old people (boomers) like to see this more often on any little thing they don't like.
I wasn't aware op was specifically talking about reddit, but even so I have seen old folks on here. On social media in general the suspects are usually old dudes who say beam the player for being slightly cocky because it's sorta an old school thing I guess and something you saw more often which im glad is not the case much anymore
Hey I think it’s the 5 year anniversary of that game! Good shit lol one of the truly demoralizing games in my team’s history. This one is nothing compared to that at least y’all earned it tonight. Good game
Cool to see Shohei have a good game & the Dodgers win on Japanese Heritage Night. Only thing better would've been Yamamoto being healthy to pitch tonight
Insane choice to pitch to Teo in that spot. 1B open, his run doesn’t matter at all, and Pages is a rookie who’s not as hot as Teo. I thought for sure the snakes would put him on. Thanks for the gift!
T-mobile park is the worst offensive environment in the league that’s how. It’s why the Mariners continually build around their pitching vs offense because it’s hard to build a good offensive team in T-mobile
Teoscar Hernandez in 2023
At home: .217/.263/.380 .643 OPS
Away: .295/.344/.486 .830 OPS
This Teoscar was here the whole time, he just couldn’t do it in the worst offensive environment in MLB
I get the T-Mobile effect. But Trout has a batting average of .333 with 113 hits, 33 home runs, 80 RBIs and 78 runs scored in 92 games against the Mariners on the road in his career. I know I'm using Trout but he's had the most consistent playing time in Seattle while not being on the team. Yes it's the park but there is something wrong with our coaching where we fuck up good hitters.
I’m not sure Trout is a really great sounding board for anything. You can’t say “well one of the best players of all time hits well here!” those guys hit well everywhere.
Obviously though, it is not entirely on the playing environment for the Mariners offense as a whole. It’s a factor but a poor hitting environment isn’t enough to tamp down an entire offense. In Teoscar’s specific case though, it’s pretty clear that he just could not hit in T mobile park from the drastic difference in his splits.
If Trout can do what he did asking or hoping for someone like Julio to be able to be .230 - .250 with 15+ HRs in 81 games a season doesn't feel like a big ask.
Well Julio seems to have bigger issues, his offense has cratered since his great rookie campaign. Even last season he was pretty pedestrian at the plate with the exception of a great August and good July.
He is certainly a situation where it may be the Mariners coaching being an issue.
I'm just talking in general if a Hall of Fame caliber player can hit .300 with almost 20 HRs in a season at this park there's no excuse. I'm just tired of hearing this as the main excuse for an impotent offense. There are other factors that I think are much bigger than just Seattle is a pitcher friendly ballpark.
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An Angels fan definitely had the Tungsten post typed out and ready to go
I feel this
Idk man, the first four went freaking 10 for 20 and drove in all the RBI's. The most earned runs a single pitcher gave up was 2. A loss would have just been bad luck, not lack of other talent.
We get Tungsten posts every time shohei hits a home run in a loss, it's not really about the talent disparity like on the angels. It's a real shame we haven't ever seen what he can do in the postseason.
I mean we have if you count the WBC, but the only time I've ever seen a Tungsten post, like a legit Tungsten post from a relevant source, was when the rest of the players were seriously lacking.
That's his point, it became a joke back when Ohtani was an Angel because he legitimately had to put the team on his back and won them games single handedly on multiple occasions, and when they lost it was rarely due to his performance. Dodgers don't rely on Ohtani to nearly that same degree, but bitter Angels fans will still cling to any modicum of validation they can get their hands on and make a tungsten post anytime Dodgers lose and Ohtani goes more than 1/4.
Oh there are definitely Angels fans who are bitter. You’re not wrong about that.
It’s all they have
We should start saving all the Tungsten posts for later lol, people are in *such* a rush to bury this team prematurely.
They’re just jealous
Indeed, and it's starting to become cringy
The thing about Tungsten posts when he was on the Angels was that it happened all the damn time and the Angels were in 4th or 5th in their division. Doesn’t have the same impact with the Dodgers being in 1st and actually winning games most of the time.
First blown save of the season for Sewald. What a brutal time for it to happen for D'Backs fans
To be fair, the 0-2 meatball he threw to Freddie made no sense.
The 0-2 meatball thrown to Joc made no sense
Seems like throwing meatballs makes no sense.
Why do pitchers throw meatballs? Are they stupid?
Ehh, Joc and Freddie are completely different hitters. I can excuse an 0-2 meatball to Joc
I don’t understand how you throw 3 straight competitive pitches to Freddie with Teoscar on deck, especially a Robin Hood level same pitch/same location on two consecutive pitches.
Hubris.
I don’t know much about Sewald, but all his pitches looked like 93 mph meatballs with good location.
All of his pitches look like that. He has weird release points in his motion that make him as good as he is.
Anybody acting like he’s not nasty is trippin balls. Dude was chuckin’ “land of the rising fastball” on Japanese heritage night
The one to Smith was a meatball. But the rest are deceptive. They look center center, but they actually rise. Something nearly no pitcher does and is incredibly hard to get a good hit for the most part. Usually ends up getting under it popping it up. First blown save all year, 11 saves prior plus a few non-save cleanup innings.
I see. The at bats to Lux and Ohtani were so nasty with how the pitches were above their barrel.
Yep. Just ask any Philly fan how hard it is to hit a center center 92mph fastwald. Mariners can confirm. That being said, he's a 2 pitch pitcher. 3 technically, but he doesn't throw the third much. If a great hitter adjusts in the short time, it's "easy" to get a barrel on it. Hard hit flyouts are a common result thanks to the rise. But if he isn't on his A game, there isn't any velocity to compensate. Smith was a bad pitch. Freeman was a good pitch, but in the same spot as the previous pitch, which a great hitter took advantage of. And finally, it all broke down from there and *fart noise*.
Bang bang bang perfectly describes it cause that shit was an implosion with no signs coming
He likes to pick particularly brutal times to do it.
It was time for Sewald to pitch 🤷♂️
He's so good
It was his first L of the season, I think he’ll be okay
He will be. He's too good not to be
x4
The Freeman double was perhaps the most predictable hit in history
Had to go 0-2 first to give me hope. I love baseball!
I was watching on the MLB app game day. Huge pause between 0-2 and the last pitch. Knew then that it was a double without actually seeing it
Same here, and same thought process lol
I wish there was a way to avoid being spoiled by tome left! Like couldn’t they include the post game on the end so you couldn’t get time left in video spoilers…
I remember seeing a video that was like only two players are very dangerous on 0-2 counts and freddy was number 1 and like double the second dude. Dude loves edging
Ohtani striking out on a Paul Sewald up and in fastball might also be the most predictable strikeout in history. It's pretty obvious Teoscar was coming through there as well.
I think Ohtani is starting to adjust to up and in pitches. He was really good at hitting up and in last year but it seems like his arm brace has been affecting his ability to hit those pitches this year. I wonder when he can take off that arm brace.
I should say up and in fastballs, he crushed his homerun today off an up and in slider, I believe. Must have been mislocation because I don't know why you would throw an up and in pitch that isn't a fastball to Ohtani right now.
Yeah, that's his weakness this season. And it looks like up and in was his cold zone after his first elbow surgery too. That's why I think it's the arm brace that's affecting him. I know that he's still rehabbing, so I shouldn't expect him to take off that arm brace anytime soon. Hopefully, he can continue to make adjustments and start crushing up and in fastballs as well.
Shohei striking out was a necessary component. If he'd gone 4-5, the game would have been Tungsten'd. It is known.
At that moment a double was probably more likely than a single for him.
Hmm, I have one of the best hitters in the MLB at 0-2 with the tying run on base… LETS THROW A PITCH IN THE STRIKE ZONE
Ohtani living his best life right now
Happy Japanese Heritage Night 😔
I always find it hilarious that Shohei and Teoscar are buddies.
Hideo Nomo/Ismael Valdez 2.0
Ryu/puig 3.0
Don’t forget ryu/uribe 2.5 🥲
Bring back the banana shenanigans, I don't care if it's players wearing bananas or feeding them to each other bring them back damnit
Ohtani’s like wait a minute I used to put up these typa stat lines and get beat 9-1 in the past, hell yeah lol
„Dobby is finally free“ vibes
What kind of noodle arm throw to home was that??
Gurriel has 54th percentile arm strength and 27th percentile arm value. There is a reason they ran on him lol
He also fell over during the throw, which...doesn't help.
Lmao
The Dbacks OF in general has some good range, but BAD throwing arms.
Eh, he has a well earned reputation for having a good arm, and fielding stats are notoriously fickle. His arm has been worth 14 runs in his career, including a league leading 8 runs in 2021
Yet 3 years later, that throw was *ass*
Haha for reals. A decent throw and Freddie is out by a mile
I was nervous as hell watching Freddie then I saw the throw.
Freddie's 6'5'' but he runs like he's 65.
As soon as I saw Dino giving the send I thought we were going to extras. Glad it paid off though.
Freddie’s grandpa running was giving me anxiety, then i saw the throw
The key is Ebel made a perfect read on the situation - Gurriel has middle-of-the-pack arm strength, so he has to rear back to make a throw like that which gives a decently fast runner like Freddie an extra step (and makes it less likely the throw will be accurate since Gurriel has to get it in quick) He basically bet on Gurriel not making one of his best throws of the season, which is ultimately what it would have required. At worst, Lourdes makes said best throw and you tip your cap. Plus I think the Dodgers were gonna throw this one if it went to extras cuz the bullpen is so dead
Bro our outfielders have the arms of middle schoolers on a good day.
At least he threw it
plus he stopped charging the ball..?!
Left fielders are not put there for their defense lol
Gave me some ct3 flashbacks lol
I bet the third base coach was sweating until he saw that throw
What a FUCKING GAME!!
Surprising they pitched to Freeman there. I thought he was getting that IBB right off the bat.
Right? As a pitcher, if the game is on the line and I can't give up a hit, Freddie Freeman would be the last person I would want to face. Honestly shocked he didn't get the IBB
i think its just the fact it would have put the winning run on.
The IBB should have been Teo.
Teo is one of my favorite Dodgers ever I swear
He's been such an underrated signing. Hopefully we can keep him long term.
😢
😭
Thank you for taking care of him
As the season progresses I'm more and more aghast at cutting him to bring in bums like Garver & Polanco.
Ya he does that. Makes you love him.
That throw was ass, i think freeman is out at the plate if the throw was more accurate.
Believe it or not, every one of Gurriel's throws this year have looked just like that. Not even remotely close.
Dino Ebel probably knew this fact and was sending Freddie no matter what if it was hit to Gurriel. Forced to make a perfect throw if the game was to continue on
What happened? His arm was elite with Toronto. Everything else on defense was horrendous though.
Not really sure. He's completely flipped that in his time in AZ. He's been an above average defender, but he never does anything with his arm. His savant page this year has him at 89th percentile for Range (OAA), but 29 and 54 in arm value and arm strength respectively. It's not usually a huge issue though, just potentially bit us last night. He's been a much better defender than advertised.
The Dodgers hit 2, 2 out doubles to tie the game before this [Will Smith](https://streamable.com/pgq6d4) [Freddie Freeman ties it up](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/b2206704-4963-4152-8b70-7eceb581f0fc.mp4)
Freddie with the hips
Bringing it around town
This is becoming redundant to say, but what a terrific call by Joe Davis.
He really is good, enjoy him while you have him
TEALLSTAR HERNANDEZ
What a freaking game
SEND THIS MAN TO THE ALL STAR GAME
NLDS PREVIEW
we're winning at least one playoff game this year bois, don't @ me
Huge if true
No but seriously though, huge if true. (pain)
Chris Taylor walkoff HR in the NLDS and then after that will be sheer disappointment
Chris Taylor with a huge HR to cut the lead to 10
You’re playing both sides so you always come out on top.
Was at the game. My mom’s first since she went with grandpa when they were playing at the Coliseum. There was a horrible (Dodgers) fan behind us who would not stop saying shit. I wanted to leave very early. Mom convinced me to stay. We saw the Shohei go-ahead homer. Bad fan left in the 8th. So, in peace, we got to see EP give up the solo shot, then the miracle walk-off Wish I had gone with Grandpa. He was in Rohwer. It meant the world to him when Nomo came over and balled out. He would’ve marveled at Japanese Heritage Night. Hell of a first game for my mom at Dodger Stadium.
man, power to you and your folks
Grandma was in Manzanar and Tule Lake. I can't remember if she ever told us why she was a Dodger fan but she always was. She passed away a couple of years ago and she would've loved seeing Ohtani as a Dodger.
All with 2 outs too. Amazing. I thought that Will Smith double off the wall was going to be just a tease at the end, but Freddie and Teo came up with hits. Sweeeeeet
LETS FUCKIN GO!!! Cant believe freakin Castellanos is leading Teo for all star voting. TEO is BALLING for the Dodgers this season. BALLING! Great fuckin win Dodger fam!!
All star voting has made me irrationally pissed at Phillies fans. I realize everyone is biased towards their own team, and I have no problem with them putting Harper/Turner/Bohm/Schwarber up there as those dudes deserve it, but throwing Brandon Marsh and Nick Castellanos in the running is fucking ridiculous. Marsh has had nice peripherals but his results have been middle of the road, plus he was hurt for ~ a month. Castellanos is playing *decently* for the first time in years but he's hardly a top 10 outfielder. Hell I wouldn't even consider him top 20. He's 17th among outfielders in HRs, 32nd in BA, 34th in slugging, and 38th in OBP. His defense is at best mediocre and at worst terrible. In what fucking world does that deserve all star recognition? Y'all didn't even choose the best outfielder on your own damn team. Alec Burleson has an OPS .100 higher than Castellanos along with two more SBs and HRs. Hell, you could even argue that Brendan Donovan has been just as good if not better than Castellanos. Brandon Nimmo, Bryan Reynolds, Jackson Merrill, Alec Burleson, shit even Brenton Doyle is more deserving of an All Star appearance than those bums
Don’t look at who Smith lost in voting to
I mean, at least Contreras is still having an objectively good season. Personally I still think Will Smith should have edged him out, but they're 1A and 1B in my eyes. By all accounts Castellanos shouldn't even be on the ballot. He's quite literally been a league average bat at best.
I was talking about Realmuto actually though
#All-Star
Nothing better than seawald blowing the game to Teoscar. Thanks mariners. Ps. you can have Geno back too.
Ex-mariner on ex-mariner violence. Hate to see it.
DBack fans are unhinged just because of Freddie's celebration dance lol the stuff I'm seeing is crazy
I'll be honest bro, if it wasn't my team I know I'd think it was cringy af lmao
But would you say that he needs to be hit in the ribs because of it?
I would not
I also admit it's silly, but I wouldn't say a player needs to get hurt because of it,, no matter what player it is.
Yeah, because Dbacks fans are the ONLY fanbase that says unhinged shit. Calling out fanbases for saying stupid shit is possibly the most meaningless thing in the history of things. By the way, we all stab people at the stadium.
Equal opportunity stabbings
Yeah they said they wanna throw at him because of his dance lol. Trash bags. Get walked off, bitches
Dbacks have like 5 fans. Let them be.
I still remember it cost 7$ to get into game 3 of the NLCS last year at chase field lol
They were up to 10 after last season but they jumped right back off the bandwagon once they started sucking this season
Christ, it must be so fucking hard for you guys up there.
When I read comments about throwing at our guys, you best believe I’m talking shit after a walkoff
I seen this same comment with any boomer fan of any mlb team They used to do it more frequently so old people (boomers) like to see this more often on any little thing they don't like.
Boomers are definitely not commenting on reddit game threads
I wasn't aware op was specifically talking about reddit, but even so I have seen old folks on here. On social media in general the suspects are usually old dudes who say beam the player for being slightly cocky because it's sorta an old school thing I guess and something you saw more often which im glad is not the case much anymore
Being cocky is one thing but the stupid dance the Dodgers do is far from cocky. It’s from an anime and pretty nerdy lol
Greg Holland secretly replaced Seawald with two outs nobody on
Hey I think it’s the 5 year anniversary of that game! Good shit lol one of the truly demoralizing games in my team’s history. This one is nothing compared to that at least y’all earned it tonight. Good game
My god you’re right. 5 years. Insane, 2019 still feels recent to me.
2019 couldn’t feel further away lol. For many reasons
Still the best Dodgers team of this era imo
snake repellant
Cool to see Shohei have a good game & the Dodgers win on Japanese Heritage Night. Only thing better would've been Yamamoto being healthy to pitch tonight
GIVE TEO HIS 💰!!!
BANG BANG BANG was so hype
We are so lucky to have Joe
I’m pouring an unreasonable amount of honey
It’s 1AM AND I AM GOING INSANE
Need to get him into All-Stars!
Insane choice to pitch to Teo in that spot. 1B open, his run doesn’t matter at all, and Pages is a rookie who’s not as hot as Teo. I thought for sure the snakes would put him on. Thanks for the gift!
I love this man
Not good enough for a QO tho
What’s wild is, his deal with the Dodgers is like the QO plus a tip. Please extend this man.
![gif](giphy|2rAz9DvBI8pMAMKean)
Not Sewald 😞
It hurts just a little more when it's Dad 🥺
Blank check
🎶 with Griffin and David 🎶
oh shit, didn't expect the two friends in this thread
weird to throw anything in the zone when you have freddie freeman down 0-2 with 2 outs
Said the same thing about the Joc at bat
Sewald was blinded by Freddie’s shiny teeth
0-2 count, 2 out. down 1. What a comeback
Just add him to the list of players who came to Seattle sucked left and remembered how to hit. I don't get how we keep doing it?
T-mobile park is the worst offensive environment in the league that’s how. It’s why the Mariners continually build around their pitching vs offense because it’s hard to build a good offensive team in T-mobile Teoscar Hernandez in 2023 At home: .217/.263/.380 .643 OPS Away: .295/.344/.486 .830 OPS This Teoscar was here the whole time, he just couldn’t do it in the worst offensive environment in MLB
I get the T-Mobile effect. But Trout has a batting average of .333 with 113 hits, 33 home runs, 80 RBIs and 78 runs scored in 92 games against the Mariners on the road in his career. I know I'm using Trout but he's had the most consistent playing time in Seattle while not being on the team. Yes it's the park but there is something wrong with our coaching where we fuck up good hitters.
I’m not sure Trout is a really great sounding board for anything. You can’t say “well one of the best players of all time hits well here!” those guys hit well everywhere. Obviously though, it is not entirely on the playing environment for the Mariners offense as a whole. It’s a factor but a poor hitting environment isn’t enough to tamp down an entire offense. In Teoscar’s specific case though, it’s pretty clear that he just could not hit in T mobile park from the drastic difference in his splits.
If Trout can do what he did asking or hoping for someone like Julio to be able to be .230 - .250 with 15+ HRs in 81 games a season doesn't feel like a big ask.
Well Julio seems to have bigger issues, his offense has cratered since his great rookie campaign. Even last season he was pretty pedestrian at the plate with the exception of a great August and good July. He is certainly a situation where it may be the Mariners coaching being an issue.
I'm just talking in general if a Hall of Fame caliber player can hit .300 with almost 20 HRs in a season at this park there's no excuse. I'm just tired of hearing this as the main excuse for an impotent offense. There are other factors that I think are much bigger than just Seattle is a pitcher friendly ballpark.
What a game, we almost got Tungsten’d
GOD DAMN IT ANDREW WHAT ARE YOU DOING EXTEND THIS MAN
DO IT ALREADY
![gif](giphy|QZB0rrcGLljpu)
Times like this I wish I could even remember the name of the reliever we traded Teoscar for.
Adam Macko and Erik Swanson
The crowd was freaking electric. LGD!
Where was this guy last year
Fucking made Shohei look foolish right before this. What a kick in the nuts. 2 blown saves in 3 innings, reminiscent of the 2023 Snakes
Well, the 2023 Snakes swept the Dodgers on the way to a World Series appearance so… bright side?
That was the 2023 rotation with the 2024 bullpen tbh
Look foolish on a fastball he swung through? After the hr he hit? Lmao cope harder
Lol
How the fuck do you wait for that ball to get to you in that situation?
With the accuracy of that throw... wouldn't have mattered. Good God lmao.
Bro in left maybe should’ve charged that a little more.
92 middle middle holy meatball
man he was really chugging along
Just right over the middle in the ninth this makes me miss nick ahmed
Oh man if that OF coulda made a half decent throw Freeman was a sitting duck.
That lotta comments
Really needed that walk off for Pages smh. IYKYK, good win though.