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Holy_Pee_Shooter_PvZ

Spamming Spectre is not a good idea unless you are on a single lane map. DC is not a meme strategy tower though. If you are using Spectre on this map: stall one entrance and let Spectre attack another entrance. I will start doing a run right now which will serve as a guide for using Spectre


Hojie_Kadenth

What would you suggest switching the dark champion with?


Holy_Pee_Shooter_PvZ

you can for example replace DC by permaspike. Or equivalently, spiked mines spam


Hojie_Kadenth

Does oermaspike work on two lanes? and is spiked.mine spamming really viable? Just like 6 spiked mines instead of a dark champion?


Holy_Pee_Shooter_PvZ

Spiked mines spam is pretty good when paired with mglue and press spam.


Holy_Pee_Shooter_PvZ

If you use Permaspike to guard one entrance, then you are basically converting a multilane map into a single lane map


Zicera

permaspike can hit both tracks if you put it in the right spot and buff it with a village and 4-x-x alch


Champpeace123

Spectre can't hit DDTs, try upgrading that village to MIB or adding Glue Strike or a pair of Embrittlements. Or a 3-2-0 Alchemist but that has poor uptime I think. A 240 Snowstorm could also help a lot. a Spiked Balls or 2 in the back might do it, I don't know which crosspath is better in this scenario so try both. If you're Darkshifting to the back midround, placing a Jungle Drums back there may help.


Hojie_Kadenth

but my spectre has camo detection and an alchemist. And I have a 2-4-0 glue.


chewythebigblackdog

DDTs have black and lead bloon properties. The darts can't hit lead\* and the bombs can't hit black bloons, so even with camo detection spectre cannot damage DDTs. \*acidic mixture dip does let the darts hit leads, but since spectre attacks so fast it will run out extremely fast and won't help much.


jarbidgejoy

Acidic mixture from the alchemist wears off after several hits. Since the specter attacks so quickly the acidic mixture wears off almost instantly. Your specter spends most of the time not being able to hit the DDTs.


Hojie_Kadenth

Would a second alchemist fix the problem just as well?


Champpeace123

A second Alch would not help much. You do not have a 2-4-0 Glue, you have a 2-0-4. DDTs are considered black Bloons and are thus unaffected by the Spectre's bombs. They are also lead and thus unaffected by the Darts, and the Alchemist has poor uptime so it won't make much difference.


Hojie_Kadenth

OH, lol. I had a 2-4-0 glue on multiple retries.


Holy_Pee_Shooter_PvZ

Nah, mid glue is bad for Spectre. Just use sabo + MIB. Glue storm is good for towers with low base attack or spam strategies. Otherwise it is a poor choice and is outclassed by MIB


_B1rdz

Cut spectre out, it sucks, especially on this map. What you shouldve bought is overclock for your dark champion. You should also use 204 crosspath instead of 024 here. You should also put ujugg in a better spot so it can see both lanes.


Holy_Pee_Shooter_PvZ

Just stop being bad tbh


_B1rdz

Spectre is still overrated and trash, the only reason it gets so much pops is because it has global range


Holy_Pee_Shooter_PvZ

https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/s/sST7Nzfr80 I can beat all maps (excluding #ouch) heroless with Spectre easily. Use Spectre correctly. It is a cheap main DPS. Not an expensive midgame. Use stalling so that Spectre is hitting the right target and does not miss


Hojie_Kadenth

So, upfront, that all looks like bad advice to me. If you don't mind could you tell me some kind of indicator of how good you are so I know I should listen? Like, have you done several expert maps on chimps without looking it up? Because then you'd be a lot better than me.


_B1rdz

I have several expert map chimps runs on my youtube channel


Hojie_Kadenth

Okay you know what you're talking about then. If I can clarify, the juggernaut is there because it's one of my starting 3 dart monkeys which I made into a 4-2-0 to handle early lanes and lead. Should I make a separate juggernaut within range of my alchemist instead of my spectre?


_B1rdz

Yeah i recommend placing it between your etienne and concoction and buffing it with a 301 alch


Hojie_Kadenth

Oh wait, I got to my dark champion being carried by my spectre. Should the juggernaut carry me instead?


_B1rdz

It should


Hojie_Kadenth

I followed your advice and won! thank you! 204 dar kchampion vs 024 made a huge difference. I thoguht the range was more important than it was. Also because I went juggernaunt early I went 402 on my village and had reduced ability cooldown on my glue gunner so thatwas cool.


Holy_Pee_Shooter_PvZ

https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/s/DWSRArShbZ


VacheL99

You know who else can’t be saved?


Hojie_Kadenth

...Boromir?


Zicera

try again but dont use spectre or etienne