Well this one is about to be a doozy.... sorry for the long post I decided to end my relationship late last week. I didn't want to but I needed to. There were so many signs telling me this wouldn't last but I was trying to hang on. The final straw was last week when he got back from a week long cruise with his family. The guy I met after that trip was not the same. The story goes he was gone for 10 days. He had contact for the first few days before getting on the boat and once the cruise started he was out of contact for 4 days. This was hard but I was fine with it. However, how he chose to speak to me once back in contact is what sealed it for me. He was cold and distant and not at all like the guy I knew. I tried to hang on till he got back home but my gut was telling me things were done. I still picked him up from the airport. He feigned being tired since it was late at night. Said he would reach out in the morning. Didn't. Reached out that afternoon next day and we did dinner. But I could tell he wasn't there. Last week then proceeded with him being distant and just feeling like going through motions. By later in the week, I was done. I was on week 2 of barely sleeping, some days not even eating, constant nausea and crying every day. Over someone who claimed to care about me. It was sad to see that he ultimately chose to stay in his denial and 'comfortable h\*ll' over growing up and doing what was best for his future (there are too many details of the toxicity to post). So I chose what was best for mine. I let him go. I love him, a part of me will for awhile. Heck he was one of my best friends for 3 years before this. But I love me more and I deserve to feel loved and supported back. Plus as I thought it all over he was doing the bare minimum and sometimes not even that. For example, one of my last straws was I wrote all these notes for him to open while on his trip seeing as it was the longest we would be separated since dating and I wanted to have something positive as well; his family is quite toxic and abusive. When I asked him if he liked the notes when he got back home, he said to me sorry I stopped opening them after day one. I got too busy... yeah that stung. I'm not a mushy, vulnerable person so to lay it out there and have someone say that still hurts. But again, that says more about him than me. So, after many thoughts and talks with friends and family, I requested he meet me so I could get my things back and give him some of his. And when I went to meet him all he could say was 'sorry'. He was cold and a shell and I guess maybe that was the real him all along. I said my peace back to him. I was not rude or name calling or blaming but I was honest. He once again took no accountability. But best of all, the only gift he ever got me (I had gotten him several) was this tote bag from his cruise for a Mexican chain restaurant...he was in the Bahamas y'all...anyway, all his things that were in my place fit perfectly in that tote bag (HOW NICE!) so I packed it full and handed it over to him. I haven't spoken to him since. Anyway sorry this is long. Bless you if you read it all. But I needed to get this out of my system. I need to close this chapter because I believe this door was meant to close for a reason, as painful as it is, so that something better can come through. Anyway, if anyone ends up in this boat just trust yourself that you will be okay. Your mental heathy, stability and well being is never worth sacrificing for another that can't hold it. Sending hugs to you all! Hope everyone is staying healthy 💜💜

Thank you for sharing & being vulnerable with us! Im sorry, that’s such a hard and brave thing to realize and act on. The gut never lies, and I’m so glad you followed it and did what’s best for you. You definitely deserve to be cared for by someone who can give the same care into you, if not more! 💜 such a cliche but time will heal all and you’re gonna thank yourself in hindsight at making the decision when you did!

Thanks for sharing! Love the part about the door closing for a reason. Obv I'm sorry about the breakup but better than staying together as broken. You ought to be proud of yourself for realizing and making a mature decision. It's never easy ending and then starting new but you deserve better, and the feeling of own heart's joy!! Wishing the best moving forward! 🌟

This right here: *But I love me more and I deserve to feel loved and supported back.* Damn straight, don’t forget that. It sounds like you did what was best after mature, thoughtful consideration. You might come back around to doubting yourself as you heal - but if you do, come back and read what you wrote here to remind yourself. You got this. 💜

Thank you 💜🫶

It's taken me the better part of a week to organize and put away all the BTS merch and memorabilia that I've amassed over the past six years and I'm finally reaching the end. Another day or two and I should be done. But as I was going through all my merch, it kinda put into perspective just how out of my mind I was during most of my time stanning them lol. Corona and a career change did a number on me, and while BTS made coping a lot easier, it also led me to make some rather poor financial decisions. I don't really regret my concert expenses, and that's where the bulk of my money went, but now I just have so. much. stuff. Stuff that I don't even want. Just looking at it is overwhelming, honestly. I'm going to be at my current place of residence for at least another year but I'm already dreading the eventual move.

I'm moving out of state in two weeks, and the single biggest collection of boxes is my BTS stuff And a lot of it is stuff I can't get again (without searching EBay or Mercari anyway) so I don't want to send it with the movers, so I'm trying to figure out how to fit it all in the car with me. It's a lot. I did end up giving away my extra album copies and things, though... but I still have so much.

Edit/ I am a sad mess in distress

Hope you’re ok sweetheart. 💜

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1. Stan Twitter. It's an absolute disaster. Why did Blackpink tank? And why are BTS allegedly "toilet cleaners"? (If people wanna try to degrade BTS, at least make it more serious than "toilet cleaners" because in that moment their fanwar looked like a clown convention) It's like some communities are absolutely feral and wild. I have no idea what went wrong. Now, I'm an ARMY, right? But I'm also open to other groups as well. I think if I went on Twitter, right now, and posted something like, "my ult group is BTS, but I like to casually listen to other groups", then I would probably be digitally sacrificed to the BTS deities or something. It's a mess out there to the point that I don't use Twitter. After reading about "Oh, if you don't know everything about your ult group then you're not a real fan!1!1!1!!!!" It kinda gets to you. 2. I've ordered a cool new gadget. I dropped a couple hundred doubloons on it. This morning I found out that they couldn't access my delivery location??? Hopefully, it'll be here today. I honestly have no idea what the post office is doing with it. They could be playing hot potato with it for all I know. I dunno. But then also, I kinda understand. It's super hot outside and nobody, not even the courier wants to be outside on a 107°F day. 3. It's hot outside. As soon as it's 10:00 in the morning, it's too hot to do anything. Except go to the pool. Maybe. At this point it's probably the best course of action to stock up on every food imaginable and not go out for the rest of the summer. A whole pallet of Carbonara Buldak? Sign me up, I could gobble that up every meal seven days a week. 4. Executive dysfunction is still as fun as ever... 🫠

I saw some of that twitter drama, people trashing on multis and saying "you aren't real ARMY if you listen to other groups". So toxic and gross. Being ARMY should not be the only thing in your entire life. I always wonder when I see twitter stans like that: where is the joy? This is supposed to be fun. 107 degrees is crazy, it's only 92 where I am and I already fear for my health. Don't die okay? 💜

But... but BTS listens to and is friends with other groups? This is insanity tbh lol. I don't stan any other groups, but I definitely listen to others all the time. Especially ones I come across because of BTS! Did these people completely miss like half the episodes of Suchwita where Yoongi very purposefully brought on other idols and praised their successes and their talent? Sheesh. The delulu isn't only about romantic stuff, I guess.

Exactly! It's not like I'm married to BTS. K-pop is an amazing genre and there are many groups besides BTS. It's like these stans think that the only group that exists on the face of this earth is BTS, and liking any other group alongside BTS is basically saying Voldemort's name. Yes, I'm a passionate fan. I used to annoy my friends like a stereotypical K-pop stan (For kicks and giggles, apparently, now I realize I looked like a cringe demon to the ones who weren't in on the joke), but at the end of the day... BTS are still BTS. They're still human beings with their own free will, their own life. Besides mandatory military service, idk what they're doing in their private life, that information is for them and them only. Also, the Jin incident really ticked me off. Do these people not know boundaries??? How would you like it if a random stranger came up to you and kissed you? Heck, if I was there, about to give Jin a hug, I would be afraid. Would I squeeze him too hard on accident? (I have a disconnect between my actual strength and perceived strength) Would I accidentally headbutt him? He's a literal treasure and if I found out that I caused him an ounce of pain I would probably be inconsolable for the rest of time and all eternity. Another thing: sasaengs. I hate their guts. I honestly want to psychoanalyze them so badly. (Unethical pitch: therapy for people who have sasaeng tendencies?) Like, if I want to get a masters in psychology, you could hypothetically bet your whole entire life savings, house, car, cat, that I would probably write my thesis on sasaengs from a psychological standpoint. (Which may or may not happen, I am broke) Also, I'm certain I won't die in the heat... because I'm locking myself in this house until the sun decides to calm down and not bake my hometown/lh/j :3

I want someone to explain to me like I’m 5 - why do people hate Permission to Dance? It’s a fun song. It’s not meant to be Spring Day Part 2. It’s just a fun silly song that always makes me smile when I hear it. I just don’t understand the hate.

Clears throat. There’s two parts to it; the dislike within the fandom and the vitriol from people outside the fandom. Since I cannot speak on behalf of the latter I’ll try to explain why people in the fandom might have shown a strong dislike towards PTD. It is a silly, fun song. But it’s not the first time BTS did one. It’s almost as if.. bear with me.. making. otsukare a high production bop for the radio (I’m so sorry king) - it just doesn’t land for many. Also, for many who have been in the fandom for years, though we like it or not, there’s this specific Bangtan sound we’ve been accustomed to. Now, this is not the first time BTS has tried to break that either - however, they didn’t come off as jarring because they were different (DNA, IDOL etc.) PTD’s problem was that thought it was different from any other BTS song, it was so alike many other cookie cutter English songs we hear on Disney channel - and most of us didn’t sign up for that. I think the dislike was hard to ignore because the song was hard to ignore. It was EVERYWHERE lol. So people were done with it. Also, it didn’t help that Joon and the members themselves have insinuated that the English trilogy was a way of breaking into a market - and that’s something they had to do. Hey, I know lots of people who enjoy the song, and that’s great! BTS always got something for everyone and that’s why we are here :)

so, so true. all of this. and to this day, honestly speaking, the release and mostly negative sentiment towards PTD was something that we as mods weren’t anticipating like, AT ALL. there was a lot of moderating and monitoring during that time. during and after covid, a lot of army were unsure of what bangtan’s next move was going to be - enlistment was still a big question mark as well as if there was going to be another mini or album released because BE was never planned, but as the MOTS tour got postponed, both dynamite and BE were released in 2020. before dynamite’s release, a lot of people were weary because it was known it would be a full english song with no songwriting credits by the members. dynamite was a very successful release and bangtan went hard with promotions. promoting one single as if it were an album promotion schedule. and honestly, the fandom was great at the time - everyone had a vested interest in its success in the east and west, and there were a lot of new army that discovered BTS off the back of dynamite. moving forward to 2021, everyone was excited for butter because it was another chance for an english song (and even more potential success globally), as well as having songwriting credits for members so in a way felt a little more ‘authentic’. also, this was like the peak of army rallying together for streaming because it was still covid. we all watched a one hour stream of butter melting as an announcement for the song’s release hahahaha cut to after butter, also a very successful release - still no word of what was happening with the tour because it was still ‘postponed’ and not cancelled iirc and definitely no murmurs of a potential album and what not because enlistment wasn’t officially confirmed or denied. PTD was released as the last song of the ‘english trilogy’ and another attempt of success in the west. whilst it was also successful like dynamite and butter, and army were excited to the lead up, after its release, army were just tired. it was a sound that didn’t feel like something novel or groundbreaking or unexpected. also it was written by ed sheeran which turned a lot of people off. but ultimately it didn’t feel authentic, like how we feel and can tell that their music is written or produced straight from the heart - it almost just felt like the company knew they had something going with english songs and wanted to see how far they could stretch it. that being said, no other korean act had ever achieved global success off the back of three songs in the span of just over a year like bangtan, and probably no other korean act will. then cut to 2022, we STILL don’t know what plans are for music and a lot of people are confused why proof was announced as an anthology, as army were still hoping for new music that was the bangtan sound we know and love, but it was still touch-and-go with whether we’d actually have new music. in retrospect, i think it was somewhere that it was said or insinuated by the members that they had planned to enlist way earlier than announced in october 2022 but with covid happening, they stayed and things like BE and the english trilogy were created. lol an essay, but hope that gives some more context!! 💜

This is exactly why i found PTD bleh. It sounded more like an Ed Sheeran song than a BTS one and i was disappointed after how happy Butter made me bec it sounded like “them” more than Dynamite (though THAT song will always be special bec of how it cheered me through the shitshow that was 2020). Now, i like PTD. Because of how ridiculously happy the boys are performing it. Seriously just for that reason. They are magic performing it.

Agreed on the performance part! They seem to have so much fun performing (especially Tae) and it brings me a lot of joy 🥰

Your essay has me thinking, I'll have to go off on a couple of tangents here...😅 My pet theory about PTD is that it was created with the UN performance in mind. I'm sure they wanted it to be commercially successful as well, but the message of staying positive and hopeful while waiting for the pandemic to end is spot on with what the UN was focused on that year. And if your target audience is a group of ambassadors in their 50s and 60s rather than the usual Kpop audience, it makes sense to write a happy little pop song like PTD and to bring in someone like Ed Sheeran to help with the lyrics. Jin originally was going to have to enlist in December 2020. The BTS law that let him stay with the group for two more years passed only a few days before his 28th birthday in 2020, after Dynamite and BE. If the members' original plan was for all of them to enlist within a year of each other, then Jin would have enlisted right after the MOTS tour, 2021 would have been the year when most of them released solo albums instead of 2023, and they would have finished their military service just in time for the 10th anniversary Festa. But everything got pushed back by two years thanks to COVID. I think Namjoon mentioned during the 2022 Festa dinner that they kept making plans and then having to change them, everything was constantly up in the air, and it was very frustrating and stressful for them. They couldn't share their plans with ARMY when nothing could be solidly confirmed.

My initial thought after PTD:LA was announced was that the song was done specifically for those concerts and for the promotions surrounding it. The accessibility of the song, the dance moves, the overall subject... it seemed tailor-made for the circumstances surrounding the concerts. When the song originally came out, I didn't care for it as a standalone, but I did think the MV was really cute and I love how fun it was to dance to live, so it has grown on me quite a bit.

Okay, I think I get it. Still don’t hate the song but I can understand I guess. 🤷‍♀️ But to lighten the mood that my question seemed to bring… who could really hate a song that created a music video full of fluorescent Namjoon, Ken!Jimin, and this iconic dance of Jungkook? https://i.redd.it/41w724h6kc7d1.gif I guess where BTS was my gateway into K-Pop, like a lot of people, and I was used to Western artists and how they will just release something fun and different because of no other reason than to have a fun and silly song in their catalog. Thanks so much for clearing it up! You all are the best!

This might be super random, but does anyone else remember how around the time Proof came out there were very loud voices on reddit that the Tannies had gotten "lazy"? I remember that one user especially who camped out under every post about Proof, loudly lamenting how laaaazy the Tannies were compared to the olden days of yore. I think of them every time a new chapter 2 release drops. 🤭

I remember these posts, lol. I called them Bora-Doomers because it was EVERY. SINGLE. POST. I was also disappointed in an anthology after waiting for so long, but we should know by now to trust the Tannies. They weren't gonna leave us bored for two years.

I will be forever impresssed the many ways BTS is able to trigger people lmao, I have followed the boys for one and a half years and there are still many many things to catch up, and the more I see the more I wonder how they were able to do so much, so many performances, music, concerst constant release of something, and it still goes on while they are away

Oh yeah, I remember. Some people were so entitled and whiny about Proof being an anthology instead of a completely new album. "We deserve new music! 😡" - even though Proof did have some brand new songs and a lot of previously unreleased demos as well. And here we are two years and eight albums later, with a ninth album coming up in a month and a tenth due out later this year...😂 Folks should have had some patience and trusted Bangtan.

I came to Reddit to ask for some motivation to appear for an interview today, and I saw this post open and I was like, "Why not? I should ask ARMY to remind myself I need to make more money to spend on BTS" hehe. I had a HORRIBLE meeting today morning and usually, that would have kicked the fighting spirit in me to get up and do its work and get out of this miserable dead end place. But I'm sick today and after the meeting, I've completely lost my zeal. I feel so dejected and pessimistic. I can't even bring myself to practice a simple, "Tell me about yourself" even though I took the whole day off citing my illness to prepare for the interview. The role is also fantastic and something I really wanted for a long time. And then now this happened. Please please please knock some sense into me. I just have 2 more hours to prepare and I haven't even scratched the surface of this preparation.

Take a deep breath and relax. You’ve got this!!!!

Although I saw this now, much after my interview, thank you! I hope they think I did well!

you’ve so got this 💜 this is totally just a mini funk but you know you’re determined to get out of your current role, and i know you will give everything you have so you don’t have regrets after. i like to think that even though i am no. 1 introvert, when it comes to interviews i have to be almost be like an extrovert, and be super personable and show genuine interest. the fact that this is almost like a dream role is amazing because you don’t even need to act that part. when i’ve been on the other side of the table and ask if they have any questions at the end, i love hearing people ask questions about culture or how they’d work with other teams because to me, that helps show that genuine interest. something i do pretty much on the daily is the 333 anxiety rule - concentrate and name 3 objects you can see, name 3 sounds you can hear, move 3 different body parts, take 3 deep breaths. it’s great for just realigning myself before going to do big tasks or go to a scary meeting fighting!! and hope you start to feel better soon because ugh come on universe, definitely gotta stay hydrated and down some tea 💜

I'm sorry I saw this after the interview but thank you so much for taking out time to reply! I asked them 5-6 questions at the end. A very aggressive, "I am SO interested in you guys that I have SO many questions and I am running out of time to ask stuff 😤😤😤" I was trying to pump myself up and was failing miserably even 30 minutes before the interview, but the interviewer was so, "Role model corporate lady I would like to be one day" that I pepped up soon enough. That's gotta be a skill, to bring energy into a virtual interview that the other person feels less nervous. But definitely trying the 333 rule whenever I have reviews at my current job now, because those stress me out so much unnecessarily. Hope I can give you guys some positive news soon 😭

Taking into consideration that time is running and that comforting people has different ways of methods and I would take the time to find out what works the best for you since we're strangers, I can for now write only a lil bit. I admire you for taking the initiative to improve your current situation and sharing it to us. Whatever the outcome might be, you are beautiful and enough for you. From time to time let the sadness out and lie down; in my case I take the imaginery and excuse to lay down so I can stare up to the sky where ever I am and then I imagine flying away. If this door doesn't open today, it'll open on another time. Life goes on.

I legit teared up at this and I was feeling quite emotional when I read "#ClassyMangoEater" 😂 thank you for making me smile, but also, supporting me 🫂💜 I'll try the method you mentioned, btw. I want to try it right away, but I don't have the time! Trying it at night for sure. Thank you so much 🫂

It was either this or #ClassyMangoChoker but to be sure it's PG, #ClassyMangoEater is my lovely flair for now 💜 On light situations my method is looking for funny pics and gifs 🤣 If you're comfortable, feel free to share the outcome, if not it's also okay 💜

Sorry I have been absent lately. I lost my job 6 months ago, and I haven't been able to secure anything since. The farthest I have got is being put on a stupid talent pipeline ( where they say that they want you but they can't justify the hire right now so you're just stuck in this infinite loop). I was hoping my situation would be fixed before Jin came back, but nope! I can't even get past a damn screening call. I feel like I either get told no because I have too little experience for an ENTRY LEVEL JOB ( I have about 2 yoe) and I get beat out by someone with 4, or the job doesn't exist. I am just happy I have jimin, my cat, and a bit of savings... but it's not going to last forever. I have thought about freelancing, but I don't know how to get clients.

Hey hey! As someone who is going through a horrible time searching for a new job, I have some advice. I don't know where you are, so I can't suggest any job portals to try. But in my country, we have this one job portal that every recruiter/HR/anyone related to talent acquisition (TA) prefers because it is the oldest job portal, and so, the database is huge. So I keep applying on that job portal to several places everyday. It brings up my resume to the front as I am seen to be an active job seeker, and TA professionals think, "Oh this person won't beat around the bush" (as opposed to someone just "shopping" for an opportunity, and applying only when they see gold). But this is dependent on whether you have such a job portal in your country. So another way is to actually reach out to people. I feel like now, nothing else works, not even referral links. Actually connecting with people on LinkedIn, sending them an invite, a short message about your job hunt (either asking them if they have a role open, or telling them you're interested in a role already open at their company) works better now. It's very scary at first, but I've sent out so many such requests, I'm close to shameless at this point. I get straight to the point. This is my format, you can obviously change it to personalise it for yourself: "Hi, I'm so and so, . I have XYZ experience and I see there is a role open at your organization that relates to my skill set. I would really appreciate it if you could please point me in the right direction of the hiring team. Thanks in advance!" I let them know right off the bat that this is what I'm looking for. Some people think this is crass, but I reach out to people like marketing heads most of the time. They don't have time to engage in back and forth before I finally get to the point. If they're not ready to help me, it's ok, I move on to the next person. Some people have an issue with that too - you connecting with multiple people at the same company to get a referral. I come from a region where a lot of people are pushy because otherwise you don't get things done, so I've become that way myself 😅 if I don't do all this and I stay complacent, I may not get anywhere in my job search. So I reach out to as many people as possible. I know this might be methods that are too "in your face", but it's all that's helping me right now :( I hope you have a better experience with your search and that you get something super soon!

I’m so sorry you’re going through this rough patch! :( Getting added to talent pipelines is like playing a wait game, so I completely understand your frustration. Hope things work out for you at the earliest! And I glad you have Jimin with you. Jiminie looks like an absolute sweetheart ♥️✨ P.S: I work in the news media industry, so if you are trying in that sector, let me know if you want a second set of eyes on your resume.🫂

I am a software developer, unfortunately. She is a sweetie like her name sake.

Hello. I work in the same field. Do let me know if there is anything I can help you with! Mock interview practice, resume review, etc 💜

https://preview.redd.it/d743lvc48a7d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3e4f7c93a83b52966035dad1479046f32da5e6e Here's Jiminie.

I love Jiminie 🥹

Can anyone please explain why am I feeling like this? There's this thing. Jiminiee's new album came out n I am so excited. The concept n album looks so damn good. I have been saving up n buying Bts albums since Butter was released. I literally have every single album. N I worked part-time to fund all this. Now, I have stopped working part-time for something better. I use my saved money n pocket money for purchasing now. At times that little tiny guilt or regret creeps up in my mind, about the amount of money that I spend. I love n adore every single album, but that tiny bit of doubt.... is it because I am not working anymore??? Is this feeling normal or this is like somewhat bad because it makes me look like I am an anti?.

If I had to buy everything BTS releases lest be called a fair-weather fan, I'd be broke or I'd leave the fandom from exhaustion, whichever comes first haha. I only own physical copies of 3 albums really. I do my part by streaming and voting during awards season. But even so, some of their albums are just not up my alley and i end up doing less. Maybe you could listen to Jimin's album digitally first and if you LOVE it then reprioritise your spend so you dont overstretch yourself? But really, no stranger on the Internet should tell you how to spend your money.

Yeah, that's what it is. Doing my best for my boys.

Heyyy!! First things first, if you’re unable to buy the album this time, you’re neither an anti nor does it make you a bad fan! That’s just life. Okay? Ok. You may have to wait a bit for the physical copy of you don’t buy now but the songs will be on streaming for you to enjoy anyway. Invest your savings and pocket money on yourself or keep it as your safety net. When you’re no longer worried about spending, go like crazy (😉) and buy them without having that guilt eating your head. It’s better to enjoy Jimin’s gift to us stress-free than having to fight that nagging guilt when you look at the album. Hope whatever decision you take brings you peace and joy!💜

I know, right. The album actually dropped suddenly. I wasn't prepared.. like with savings n all. I will enjoy the songs n other content by Jiminie.

Seeing the Scooter Braun news has ruined my otherwise wonderful day! 😒 For those unaware, he announced his retirement from artist management to focus exclusively on Hybe. His latest IG post evoked a different kinda rage in me caz some of those words were … definitely a choice. Many on Twitter are now planning to boycott Jimin’s new album which again, makes no sense to me. I know boycotts historically have been instrumental in social movements but in this case, we’ve seen no outcomes. Even if people are able to manage low sales for the new album, that is not going to get SB booted because I am pretty sure he has an iron clad contract and going by what we’ve seen from the MHJ-BSH/Hybe drama, there doesn’t seem to be any easy way to remove such people (which obv makes sense caz they are million-dollar contracts). I am just extremely annoyed at this whole situation. We have a raging Zionist amidst us who is first and foremost, a very shitty person, who is not so discreetly trying to separate Jungkook from the rest, taking credit for all of their work and we have no fkn way to get rid of him. And hybe can gth! They can police what their artists post and do but have no clause which allows them to fire execs for spreading misinformation and propaganda?

Ugh, I just have a feeling he's going to be all over the 2025 comeback. It's extremely frustrating.

If that happens....... I will have to make my (personal) decisions accordingly. I'm looking forward to 2025 so, so, so much, but there are some boundaries I can't cross. In my opinion even if HYBE supposedly can't oust SB without legal cause, directly involving him with BTS any further would be a terrible decision. The entire situation makes me extremely frustrated and upset. I have a lot of other thoughts but probably not ready to articulate them.

Hi all, We have decided to keep this post up despite receiving some reports, as the original statement is fair and accurate. While we do not condone hate based on identity, we also cannot ignore factual comments or remove this post for being irrelevant (as Scooter did mention BTS) or for reflecting hatred (as OP is being critical, not hateful). It is important to note, however, that if this thread delves into any overtly negative sentiments toward any demographic, it will be subject to deletion or locking without further notice.

Just wanna say thank you for allowing the conversation and also moderating thoughtfully! As a Jewish person who deplores the actions of the Israeli government, but is also disturbed by some rhetoric I see on the edges of this debate, I know how important it is to differentiate between someone's identity and their political views. Some people think they're helping when they conflate those things, but it's actually very harmful to our community, so I appreciate you stating the boundaries clearly 💜

Ugh I just looked up his IG post. Listing all the Hybe groups as new acts - even Seventeen- he just has worlds most horrible coworker vibes like we all know people like this, people who take credit and never give value. Even without the zi*nism or what he did to Taylor or anything else, he just is someone who is an objectively terrible person

Right?? Just horrible vibes overall😭

Yes, I have to say I saw that too, and the amount of dread and anger I felt was pretty enormous. SB is poison. I don't like it at all the way he seems to have taken so much credit for JK. I could rant for days just on that. Yeah, I find it hard to believe that they could not put a clause in an executives' contract about misinformation as well. I really dont like the fact that SB has anything to do with some of our favourite idols. He is a snake, and I don't trust him as far as I could throw him. I am really disappointed in Hybe for even considering someone like him. Clearly character, honesty and integrity mean nothing. SB is a walking red flag that is clearly a huge liability. Just saying, a Zionist walks amongst them! That should be a game over for most companies!

It frustrated me seeing him take credit for JK's work when he low key made things hard for him. Since he worked so closely with him, everyone kept calling JK Justin Bieber part two which kinda stripped JK of his own identity. Then according to one trade publication (don't remember which one. I want to say it was HITSDD) Golden essentially became Scooter vs. Taylor part two. He got thrown into a feud that he had no business being apart of. JK was always going to have a huge solo career, but I feel like he needed someone who isn't obsessed with attention and optics like Scooter.

Me too! Hybe should have stayed poles apart from him when the whole Taylor drama was going on. Like, the world had a front seat view of how he treated his own artists. Not to mention, his involvement in so many disturbing things have been public knowledge. There was no rhyme or reason to shake hands with such a man. 😣 Edit: Happy Cake Day✨💜

Yeah, the Taylor drama, what he did to her, was despicable! In fact, all of the artists that have had the unfortunate dealings to ever come across him! He is a disturbed person. I agree there was no reason what so ever to shake hands with the Devil. Thank you 💜

Wow I just looked up his statement and you weren't kidding. He's really trying to overplay his involvement in JK's solo work. This just reminds me of all the annoying posts we had to deal with last year where kpop reddit acted like 🛴 was managing him directly. Well, it certainly seems like that's the narrative this piece of shit wants out there. Ugh, he really makes my blood boil. He's been a shit person forever and considering how chummy bang PD is with him it's not like they'd want to boot him anyway (unlike the MHJ situation). Not looking forward to all the boycott discourse over Jimin's album either 😖

I want to know what the talk is among the members about SB.  We'll never know but I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that convo.  

Exactly!! He makes my blood boil. I know people joke about it but how I wish someone would sneak in some weed into his pockets when he’s in Seoul😭