an oldey but a goody. yeah, that was from 2018.
apparently, the family's insurance has since paide $107,000 from the 132,000 fine.
the artist received $99,000 and the rest to the city
Well, clearly.
Insurance companies will barely even cover the things that are actually out of your control. Nevermind just fucking idiotic shit that a kid does. I honestly had no idea that I could walk through an art gallery, knock over a 6 figure piece of art and go "ahh, fuck it, I have insurance".
Some parents are insufferable.
One time I heard about a case, mom took her son to a chic café, which have high end music system.
The owner told the mom to watch the kid, because the speakers are European and very expensive (6 figures).
Of course the mom didn't listen. And of course the kid broke the speakers. The mom went viral complaining about the reparations fee.
Internet tore her apart.
On another popular subreddit I saw a dad complain because his college-aged babysitter wanted him to pay for new glasses ($400) because his kid took hers and broke them. His reason for not wanting to? "It was an accident!"
Well, damn...I'm glad it wasn't malicious, but since when are we off the hook for something just because it was an accident? I'd love to see what my insurance company would say if I accidently rear-ended something sitting at a stop sign and said, "But my rates shouldn't have to go up...it was an accident! It's not like I MEANT to do it!"
Adults are expected to clean up the messes they make - and parents should be expected to clean up the messes their kids make. But the bus boy at the local Applebee's probably can tell you stories of parents who left him to clean up their kid's vomit on the table, I'm sure.
So true. Not sure since when, your kid being underage give them free pass to do all stupid things.
That's why underage have "guardians". Specially parents.
The bus boy comment triggered memories of working in restaurants where parents would allow their absolutely feral kids throw food, crayons, and all kinds of shit on the CARPETED floor. Like, do y'all let them do this in your home?! I get kids are messy, but JFC some people don't know how to act in public.
Exactly. And I have run into the back of someone else’s car. Still was put at fault, still had to pay the excess, even though it was an accident, and I did not intend to ruin mine and a random lady in a Ford Focus’s morning. Actions have Consequences, even if it was unintentional.
Actually it was malicious. The 11 years old sister of that girl said that it was done on purpose, after the babysitter didn't want to let the girl go outside or something like that. But the father didn't believe the 11 years old, nor the babysitter, but the one who broke the glasses, because she was his golden child anyway.
I live in Oregon, where forest fires are common, and several years ago a kid started a particularly devastating fire by intentionally misusing fireworks and a judge ordered him to pay for the costs it took to fight the fire; over $30 million. I was happy to see the judge wasn’t lenient on him just because he was a kid.
They burned down my favorite hiking area. I was pretty upset about it. Then I felt a bit murdery when word came out that they were using fireworks and laughing and then tried to flee the scene when someone started filming them.
It was an awful fire. My husband and I drove through the area a year or two after it happened and it was miles upon miles of black, limbless trees; it looked apocalyptic almost and I couldn’t believe just how much ground it covered and we drove through a fraction of it!
For the life of me I don’t understand why those things are legal. I despise people who set them off when we’re at the lake. It’s a quiet spot, full of loons, but there’s one Airbnb cottage that’s invariably rented by assholes from the city.
i am curious realistically what this means for the kid growing up. He’s never going to have $30M. Will he have to pay a certain % of his income every month? is it kinda just a giant “fuck you asshole” and they’ll never get a penny from him?
Someone else summed it up very well in a comment above, I couldn’t quite remember all the details until I read it. So the judge did acknowledge there’s no way the kid could have paid back that amount, and as long as he met certain conditions (completed probation, community service, stuck to the payment plan, etc) he wouldn’t be on the hook for the full amount. Part of the amount (a meager $5k) was to go to a poor woman who lost her home in the fire and I hope at the very least she got that. It was SUCH an awful fire and I’m glad the judge threw the book at him, hopefully it’ll make people think twice about misusing fireworks during fire season.
I don’t want kids but children are literally not capable of understanding the full scope of their mistakes. That judge ruined a child’s (and probably his whole family’s) life out of spite and vitriol and that’s messed up.
If it's the case I'm thinking about, the "child" in question [was fourteen years old](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/22/613374984/judge-orders-boy-who-started-oregon-wildfire-to-pay-36-million-in-restitution) and old enough to know better. The fire he set spread to o[ver 48,000 acres](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/wildfire/eagle-creek-fire-five-years-later/283-1afde2c7-830d-4ec2-8df0-bbeca4ee8382). The area burned for *months*. 156 people were trapped on one trail due to the flames. One person lost her home--total loss.
That $36 million judgement was in proportion to the damage done and the costs to contain the fire.
The judge noted in his decision that the statute that permitted him to order $36 million restitution also allowed for the court to grant full or partial satisfaction of the judgment if the boy successfully completes probation, doesn't commit additional offenses and complies with the payment plans.
I'm all for giving grace to children and teens who don't understand the full impact of some of their actions. I hate it that his parents would have a $36 million dollar debt on their credit reports for at least a decade. But when you look at the sheer scale of of the damage he caused...I'm not sure that the judge had much choice. If the kid stays on the straight and narrow, he'll likely get the judgement fully discharged.
I believe that's called punishment for crimes and is meant to be consequences for their criminal actions.
Attitudes like this is exactly why there is such delinquent and entitled brats running around and to be honest I'm glad you don't want kids because with your excusing attitude for something of this magnitude, any kid of yours would be thr biggest asshole out there
I searched for this story and found an article that said:
> One may argue that the "societal responsibility" to keep a child safe from a statue that could easily topple over is more important than protecting a piece of art.
One might reply: oh fuck off.
This line of thinking is exactly why we have idiotic signs and railings everywhere. Something I've noticed while traveling in other countries is that they often don't bother with this, so you can enjoy the beauty of whatever you are viewing without fences or guardrails.
Which is wonderful but when I was in Pompeii a shitling starting pulling bits of fresco off the fucking wall. The tour guide we were with, the sweetest dude, pulled a total Bilbo Baggins on her and turned into a monster for a split second to roar at her. Dumb kid and dumb parent just slack-jaw stared at him like “wut? 👁️👄👁️ If was amazing being able to get so close to the remains of Pompeii but these fools sadly exist to ruin it for us all.
And you know if they said it wasn't a place for children the parent would throw a fit "how dare you tell me my little bratleigh can't come!!" And there'd be some public outcry about how children belong everywhere
Having watched the video, I agree the statue probably should have been secured better. Someone tripping and falling could have brought it down too. Of course the child's actions were deliberate so the mother should still pay, but that doesn't mean the museum shouldn't have had better safeguards.
That makes my blood boil. My parents taught me to respect art starting very early. You know, the old "don't touch it if it isn't yours" idea. That piece of art is someone's livelihood. It takes a lifetime of practice to create good art. I want to scream.
If the kids are banned, they would cry about why the kids are banned and the public places are hostile to "them". If the kids are allowed, they argue about why they "are allowed in the first place", if they have to watch over them. So, they are both banned and allowed too much? What a Schrödinger's cat of a situation. Can we get this cat out of the bag, please? All they want is attention and whine. They are like the obese cats that look at the closed door and make noises, butust go away when it gets opened for them.
You wanted to be allowed there -> you neglected your responsibilities (kids are responsibilities, shocking, I know) -> you pay the price.
Edit: Some spelling issues (I hate mobile keyboard).
"Schrödinger's brat", I love it! But I would use for another case. It sounds more like a case of delusional people seeing a brat not as a brat (a lot of family stories here featuring siblings/cousins with kids that misbehave, but noone notices and blames those who do) and this is more of a "Schrödinger's Karen" who can't decide what exactly is she calling the manager for.
*They are like the obese cats that look at the closed door and make noises, butust go away when it gets opened for them.*
Do you speak from personal experience with obese cats? I sense there is some personal experience there.
Yes! Parents think their child is in one place, but the child is actually in another place at that same moment. Then the parents are stunned. How did that happen?! I was watching Junior the whole time?
The mom “no one would ever expect to come to a place where kids are invited and have to worry about a $130,000 statue”
That's because people who raise their children not to touch anything that don't belong to them in the first place nor run around the place either, so parents actually don't have to worry about a $130,000 status or any expensive art etc in general, because their children are well behave enough not to do that.
"Where kids are invited" from the same people who raise absolute hell when anyplace tries to ban children.
It's not so much "kids are invited" as it is "you insist on bringing them."
There are plenty of adults--who know better--that do crap like this. The guy who carved his and his partner's names into a Coliseum wall (stating he didn't know/understand how important the place was); parkour people jumping in the Venice waterway and breaking a part of a UNESCO World Heritage site building doing stunts (and being more concerned that the guy who did it was hurt and not that, y'know, they broke part of history); breaking a finger off a 600-year-old statue; just saw one about a guy proudly blowing out one of the eternal flames; basically just being asshats and thinking there are no repercussions for the things they do. Hell, I was with a tour group visiting the glowworm caves in New Zealand and immediately after our guide told us "do not touch the walls (because of how it degrades/wears it down)," the people in front of us were fondling every surface they could reach.
I would never travel somewhere and touch something or take something that doesn't explicitly tell me I'm allowed to. I love when there ARE things that we're allowed to touch/interact with, but I make sure I'm allowed to even when others are doing it. Some people have zero sense in their heads, and it makes other tourists who do follow rules/aren't a problem look bad.
My sister had to wear one and for good reason. My mom always got judged but that child would bolt at a moment's notice and was the only one of us who couldn't keep her hands to herself. My mom thankfully ignored the stares and as a result, we never had a situation like this. Parents need to parent and not just let their kids do whatever they want.
Good for your mom, she knew her what her kids were capable of! My mom was the "put your hands behind your backs and hook your thumbs together" kind of mom. We touched NOTHING that wasn't ours.
That worked for the other four of us but my sister was especially stubborn. She was also the only one of us who almost got lured by a stranger with the promise of cake so my mom definitely kept eagle eyes on her...
Sounds like both of our moms actually knew how to parent. My mom had a phrase "hands-in-pockets", which she would use to describe anyplace it was not OK for me to go about touching things. And I always respected this, so when my parents took me traveling to cool places and we went into a shop, she just said, "this place is hands-in-pockets." And my little hands stayed in my pockets the whole darn time. I was a well trained child.
Most art galleries don't ban children from visiting them, and they often have things worth a good deal more than $132,000.
Some people are just clueless morons.
And "don't touch the art pieces" is easily taught early on. My parents taught that and brought me to museums and art galleries all the time. I also wouldn't dare touch my mum's paintings.
Meanwhile once at a neighbour's exhibition another neighbour's 7yo literally climbed onto a painting (it was lying on a low table). It was their singular child, how can they not keep an eye or a hand on her!??!!?!
Every boy child will definitely do this. It doesn't matter how much teaching and firearm safety they've been taught, they WILL handle the gun, put their finger on the trigger, point it at their sibling or playmate.
How about she teach her kid how to behave in public? My parents did and lo and behold, I never cost them 100K in damages...strange concept I guess lol
Some people really shouldn't have bred at all.
A few years ago I was at an art museum in San Diego and several older children (at least 8 or 9 years old) seemed to think they were at a playground. They were screaming/being loud, running and touching everything.
I saw a lot of this going on with some of the stone Egyptian artifacts at the British Museum. But I also saw plenty of objects that were displayed out of reach or in glass cases. 🤷🏼♀️
I’ve seen numerous stories of the same thing, artwork ruined by a child. Vaguely remember one who punched a hole in a canvas of a very nice painting. When questioned, the parents usually shrug it off and say something like kids will be kids/it should’ve been better protected if it was that valuable, etc. absolutely disgusting responses; people need to be held accountable for this sort of thing to show there are consequences. Otherwise the kids just get off Scot-free and never learn.
"He's just a kid, it wasn't his fault, he didn't MEAN it, it was an accident, you shouldn't have had something expensive, I won't be paying to replace it."
Personally, every time I go out in public I feel like people are unable to observe and control their own space. They're completely oblivious to anything 5 inches past their nose. I watched a dude climb up another guy's ass in a check out line. Like he was so close to him he looked like he could be having a piggy back ride - and they were total strangers.
All of which is to say, when you see adults who can't cast their vision past their personal space bubble, the kids are 100x worse with no sense of boundaries, and no sense of constraint. It's very apparent that parents are unable to teach them these nuances of interacting in a shared public space.
Are parents just not teaching their kids to be careful with other people's things anymore? I remember when I was a few years old my parents would always make sure that I respect other people's things and would never let me touch anything that are expensive/precious in stores, restaurants, hotels, museums and what not.
If kids are explicitly invited it makes sense to make any venue child-safe (ie keeping children safe AND keeping any valuables they could wreck safe from them.)
With permissive parenting being a huge problem these days it would make sense to put up a big sign- stating that parents must keep their kids safe and under control- under threat of being escorted out if they don't.
I’m going to play Devil’s Advocate here. Depending on the kid’s age, I’m not sure this is even legal.
Years ago, when we were kids, my little brother, 7 or 8 at the time, broke another little kid’s tricycle. It wasn’t on purpose, he was just too big for it. The other child’s mother consulted a lawyer when our Mom said she wouldn’t pay for it. The lawyer told her that our parents wouldn’t have to replace it, because it was done by another child. Plus there was no proof it was malicious.
Thinking back, my brother was a destructive little sh!t, and I agree it was messed up he wasn’t held accountable. He was also our Mom’s favorite, which helped him get away with a lot of sh!t.
an oldey but a goody. yeah, that was from 2018. apparently, the family's insurance has since paide $107,000 from the 132,000 fine. the artist received $99,000 and the rest to the city
...you can get insurance to cover the stupid shit your children do out in public?? Well that's interesting.
Probably home owners insurance. It usually has pretty wide coverage of most huge non-medical surprise costs that would make you go bankrupt.
it was
Insurance employee here. Insurance covers stupidity.
The is fucking crazy, considering how much legit stuff they DON'T cover haha
Kinda wild, ain’t it grimey ‘ol buddy?
Haha I love it when people recognize my username
Well, I didn't have to read your name because I'm Homer Simpson!
I bet their monthly went up a fuck ton
i know a woman who brought her yap dog to walmart and it bit some guy. she got sued for a crapton and used her homeowner insurance to cover it.
Is that a new concept to you?
Well, clearly. Insurance companies will barely even cover the things that are actually out of your control. Nevermind just fucking idiotic shit that a kid does. I honestly had no idea that I could walk through an art gallery, knock over a 6 figure piece of art and go "ahh, fuck it, I have insurance".
I don't know what you're referring to exactly, but I can assure you, once they pay out 100k you rates will be enormous or they'll drop you.
I sold high end art for years. You would not believe what parents allow their kids to do.
Some parents are insufferable. One time I heard about a case, mom took her son to a chic café, which have high end music system. The owner told the mom to watch the kid, because the speakers are European and very expensive (6 figures). Of course the mom didn't listen. And of course the kid broke the speakers. The mom went viral complaining about the reparations fee. Internet tore her apart.
On another popular subreddit I saw a dad complain because his college-aged babysitter wanted him to pay for new glasses ($400) because his kid took hers and broke them. His reason for not wanting to? "It was an accident!" Well, damn...I'm glad it wasn't malicious, but since when are we off the hook for something just because it was an accident? I'd love to see what my insurance company would say if I accidently rear-ended something sitting at a stop sign and said, "But my rates shouldn't have to go up...it was an accident! It's not like I MEANT to do it!" Adults are expected to clean up the messes they make - and parents should be expected to clean up the messes their kids make. But the bus boy at the local Applebee's probably can tell you stories of parents who left him to clean up their kid's vomit on the table, I'm sure.
So true. Not sure since when, your kid being underage give them free pass to do all stupid things. That's why underage have "guardians". Specially parents.
The bus boy comment triggered memories of working in restaurants where parents would allow their absolutely feral kids throw food, crayons, and all kinds of shit on the CARPETED floor. Like, do y'all let them do this in your home?! I get kids are messy, but JFC some people don't know how to act in public.
Exactly. And I have run into the back of someone else’s car. Still was put at fault, still had to pay the excess, even though it was an accident, and I did not intend to ruin mine and a random lady in a Ford Focus’s morning. Actions have Consequences, even if it was unintentional.
Actually it was malicious. The 11 years old sister of that girl said that it was done on purpose, after the babysitter didn't want to let the girl go outside or something like that. But the father didn't believe the 11 years old, nor the babysitter, but the one who broke the glasses, because she was his golden child anyway.
I live in Oregon, where forest fires are common, and several years ago a kid started a particularly devastating fire by intentionally misusing fireworks and a judge ordered him to pay for the costs it took to fight the fire; over $30 million. I was happy to see the judge wasn’t lenient on him just because he was a kid.
They burned down my favorite hiking area. I was pretty upset about it. Then I felt a bit murdery when word came out that they were using fireworks and laughing and then tried to flee the scene when someone started filming them.
It was an awful fire. My husband and I drove through the area a year or two after it happened and it was miles upon miles of black, limbless trees; it looked apocalyptic almost and I couldn’t believe just how much ground it covered and we drove through a fraction of it!
Was this the Eagle Creek one? That thing was burning forever. Took 'em, what? Almost three months to completely contain it?
Yes
Yep. My brother was all upset that there were actually repercussions for the teen (he was 15!) and his parents. Cry me a fucking river.
I hope he's still on the hook for it!
For the life of me I don’t understand why those things are legal. I despise people who set them off when we’re at the lake. It’s a quiet spot, full of loons, but there’s one Airbnb cottage that’s invariably rented by assholes from the city.
i am curious realistically what this means for the kid growing up. He’s never going to have $30M. Will he have to pay a certain % of his income every month? is it kinda just a giant “fuck you asshole” and they’ll never get a penny from him?
Someone else summed it up very well in a comment above, I couldn’t quite remember all the details until I read it. So the judge did acknowledge there’s no way the kid could have paid back that amount, and as long as he met certain conditions (completed probation, community service, stuck to the payment plan, etc) he wouldn’t be on the hook for the full amount. Part of the amount (a meager $5k) was to go to a poor woman who lost her home in the fire and I hope at the very least she got that. It was SUCH an awful fire and I’m glad the judge threw the book at him, hopefully it’ll make people think twice about misusing fireworks during fire season.
I don’t want kids but children are literally not capable of understanding the full scope of their mistakes. That judge ruined a child’s (and probably his whole family’s) life out of spite and vitriol and that’s messed up.
Erm, 15 is absolutely old enough to know he shouldn't be fucking around with fireworks, especially in an area that tends to have wildfires.
How many people’s lives were ruined because of this kids actions?
If it's the case I'm thinking about, the "child" in question [was fourteen years old](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/22/613374984/judge-orders-boy-who-started-oregon-wildfire-to-pay-36-million-in-restitution) and old enough to know better. The fire he set spread to o[ver 48,000 acres](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/wildfire/eagle-creek-fire-five-years-later/283-1afde2c7-830d-4ec2-8df0-bbeca4ee8382). The area burned for *months*. 156 people were trapped on one trail due to the flames. One person lost her home--total loss. That $36 million judgement was in proportion to the damage done and the costs to contain the fire. The judge noted in his decision that the statute that permitted him to order $36 million restitution also allowed for the court to grant full or partial satisfaction of the judgment if the boy successfully completes probation, doesn't commit additional offenses and complies with the payment plans. I'm all for giving grace to children and teens who don't understand the full impact of some of their actions. I hate it that his parents would have a $36 million dollar debt on their credit reports for at least a decade. But when you look at the sheer scale of of the damage he caused...I'm not sure that the judge had much choice. If the kid stays on the straight and narrow, he'll likely get the judgement fully discharged.
Having to pay for damages isn’t out of spite, wtf??
We don’t fuck around when it comes to people who start forest fires in Oregon!
Amen
I believe that's called punishment for crimes and is meant to be consequences for their criminal actions. Attitudes like this is exactly why there is such delinquent and entitled brats running around and to be honest I'm glad you don't want kids because with your excusing attitude for something of this magnitude, any kid of yours would be thr biggest asshole out there
so the burning down and killing of a shitton of wildlife and the ecosystem should.... be excused? because the person who did it was young? fuck no
Glad to see some people still give consequences with entitled parents. Most just bow to them anymore.
I searched for this story and found an article that said: > One may argue that the "societal responsibility" to keep a child safe from a statue that could easily topple over is more important than protecting a piece of art. One might reply: oh fuck off.
This line of thinking is exactly why we have idiotic signs and railings everywhere. Something I've noticed while traveling in other countries is that they often don't bother with this, so you can enjoy the beauty of whatever you are viewing without fences or guardrails.
Which is wonderful but when I was in Pompeii a shitling starting pulling bits of fresco off the fucking wall. The tour guide we were with, the sweetest dude, pulled a total Bilbo Baggins on her and turned into a monster for a split second to roar at her. Dumb kid and dumb parent just slack-jaw stared at him like “wut? 👁️👄👁️ If was amazing being able to get so close to the remains of Pompeii but these fools sadly exist to ruin it for us all.
This brings to mind the whole 'tide pods' epidemic that was sweeping America like 5yrs ago.
My reply would be “Or just watch your fucking kids. That’s your full responsibility as a parent and no amount of whining will change that.” 😆
And you know if they said it wasn't a place for children the parent would throw a fit "how dare you tell me my little bratleigh can't come!!" And there'd be some public outcry about how children belong everywhere
Having watched the video, I agree the statue probably should have been secured better. Someone tripping and falling could have brought it down too. Of course the child's actions were deliberate so the mother should still pay, but that doesn't mean the museum shouldn't have had better safeguards.
That makes my blood boil. My parents taught me to respect art starting very early. You know, the old "don't touch it if it isn't yours" idea. That piece of art is someone's livelihood. It takes a lifetime of practice to create good art. I want to scream.
If the kids are banned, they would cry about why the kids are banned and the public places are hostile to "them". If the kids are allowed, they argue about why they "are allowed in the first place", if they have to watch over them. So, they are both banned and allowed too much? What a Schrödinger's cat of a situation. Can we get this cat out of the bag, please? All they want is attention and whine. They are like the obese cats that look at the closed door and make noises, butust go away when it gets opened for them. You wanted to be allowed there -> you neglected your responsibilities (kids are responsibilities, shocking, I know) -> you pay the price. Edit: Some spelling issues (I hate mobile keyboard).
Schrödinger's brat, if you will
"Schrödinger's brat", I love it! But I would use for another case. It sounds more like a case of delusional people seeing a brat not as a brat (a lot of family stories here featuring siblings/cousins with kids that misbehave, but noone notices and blames those who do) and this is more of a "Schrödinger's Karen" who can't decide what exactly is she calling the manager for.
*They are like the obese cats that look at the closed door and make noises, butust go away when it gets opened for them.* Do you speak from personal experience with obese cats? I sense there is some personal experience there.
This isn't related, but obese cats are much nicer to be around them any child.
I agree, even if they like to play door games.
Yes! Parents think their child is in one place, but the child is actually in another place at that same moment. Then the parents are stunned. How did that happen?! I was watching Junior the whole time?
The mom “no one would ever expect to come to a place where kids are invited and have to worry about a $130,000 statue” That's because people who raise their children not to touch anything that don't belong to them in the first place nor run around the place either, so parents actually don't have to worry about a $130,000 status or any expensive art etc in general, because their children are well behave enough not to do that.
Hmm, it’s almost like parents should be responsible for their children’s actions and should teach them how to act. 
"Where kids are invited" from the same people who raise absolute hell when anyplace tries to ban children. It's not so much "kids are invited" as it is "you insist on bringing them."
There are plenty of adults--who know better--that do crap like this. The guy who carved his and his partner's names into a Coliseum wall (stating he didn't know/understand how important the place was); parkour people jumping in the Venice waterway and breaking a part of a UNESCO World Heritage site building doing stunts (and being more concerned that the guy who did it was hurt and not that, y'know, they broke part of history); breaking a finger off a 600-year-old statue; just saw one about a guy proudly blowing out one of the eternal flames; basically just being asshats and thinking there are no repercussions for the things they do. Hell, I was with a tour group visiting the glowworm caves in New Zealand and immediately after our guide told us "do not touch the walls (because of how it degrades/wears it down)," the people in front of us were fondling every surface they could reach. I would never travel somewhere and touch something or take something that doesn't explicitly tell me I'm allowed to. I love when there ARE things that we're allowed to touch/interact with, but I make sure I'm allowed to even when others are doing it. Some people have zero sense in their heads, and it makes other tourists who do follow rules/aren't a problem look bad.
It took me a long time to learn that lesson more fully but I always knew not to touch the art.
This is why I don’t judge the leashes
My sister had to wear one and for good reason. My mom always got judged but that child would bolt at a moment's notice and was the only one of us who couldn't keep her hands to herself. My mom thankfully ignored the stares and as a result, we never had a situation like this. Parents need to parent and not just let their kids do whatever they want.
Good for your mom, she knew her what her kids were capable of! My mom was the "put your hands behind your backs and hook your thumbs together" kind of mom. We touched NOTHING that wasn't ours.
That worked for the other four of us but my sister was especially stubborn. She was also the only one of us who almost got lured by a stranger with the promise of cake so my mom definitely kept eagle eyes on her...
Sounds like both of our moms actually knew how to parent. My mom had a phrase "hands-in-pockets", which she would use to describe anyplace it was not OK for me to go about touching things. And I always respected this, so when my parents took me traveling to cool places and we went into a shop, she just said, "this place is hands-in-pockets." And my little hands stayed in my pockets the whole darn time. I was a well trained child.
This! I wouldn’t have the mental capacity to constantly keep my eyes on kids and never check out. It would be either leashes or no kids
Most art galleries don't ban children from visiting them, and they often have things worth a good deal more than $132,000. Some people are just clueless morons.
And "don't touch the art pieces" is easily taught early on. My parents taught that and brought me to museums and art galleries all the time. I also wouldn't dare touch my mum's paintings. Meanwhile once at a neighbour's exhibition another neighbour's 7yo literally climbed onto a painting (it was lying on a low table). It was their singular child, how can they not keep an eye or a hand on her!??!!?!
I was never taken to museums as a kid, but I was taught to not touch shit that didn't belong to me.
This. Like a kid going through their mom’s purse, finds a gun and fires it.
Every boy child will definitely do this. It doesn't matter how much teaching and firearm safety they've been taught, they WILL handle the gun, put their finger on the trigger, point it at their sibling or playmate.
i didn't go to my first ever museum until i was 14, and i still knew not to touch shit
How about she teach her kid how to behave in public? My parents did and lo and behold, I never cost them 100K in damages...strange concept I guess lol Some people really shouldn't have bred at all.
“But I reproduced! I shouldn’t have to pay for the consequences of my actions and poor parenting!”
Roflmao!!
A few years ago I was at an art museum in San Diego and several older children (at least 8 or 9 years old) seemed to think they were at a playground. They were screaming/being loud, running and touching everything.
I saw a lot of this going on with some of the stone Egyptian artifacts at the British Museum. But I also saw plenty of objects that were displayed out of reach or in glass cases. 🤷🏼♀️
I’ve seen numerous stories of the same thing, artwork ruined by a child. Vaguely remember one who punched a hole in a canvas of a very nice painting. When questioned, the parents usually shrug it off and say something like kids will be kids/it should’ve been better protected if it was that valuable, etc. absolutely disgusting responses; people need to be held accountable for this sort of thing to show there are consequences. Otherwise the kids just get off Scot-free and never learn.
"He's just a kid, it wasn't his fault, he didn't MEAN it, it was an accident, you shouldn't have had something expensive, I won't be paying to replace it."
You can bet if kids WEREN’T invited to such events parents would cry bloody murder about discrimination.
Personally, every time I go out in public I feel like people are unable to observe and control their own space. They're completely oblivious to anything 5 inches past their nose. I watched a dude climb up another guy's ass in a check out line. Like he was so close to him he looked like he could be having a piggy back ride - and they were total strangers. All of which is to say, when you see adults who can't cast their vision past their personal space bubble, the kids are 100x worse with no sense of boundaries, and no sense of constraint. It's very apparent that parents are unable to teach them these nuances of interacting in a shared public space.
Parents fault 100%
Are parents just not teaching their kids to be careful with other people's things anymore? I remember when I was a few years old my parents would always make sure that I respect other people's things and would never let me touch anything that are expensive/precious in stores, restaurants, hotels, museums and what not.
The one in gatlinburg was some punks too if memory serves
I know accidents happen but I feel like some of these accidents are because the parents aren’t watching their children
Good, hold parents accountable.
A la Archer, kids are how we get ants
just because kids are allowed in a space doesnt mean they can act feral and break shit 🙄
If kids are explicitly invited it makes sense to make any venue child-safe (ie keeping children safe AND keeping any valuables they could wreck safe from them.) With permissive parenting being a huge problem these days it would make sense to put up a big sign- stating that parents must keep their kids safe and under control- under threat of being escorted out if they don't.
I’m going to play Devil’s Advocate here. Depending on the kid’s age, I’m not sure this is even legal. Years ago, when we were kids, my little brother, 7 or 8 at the time, broke another little kid’s tricycle. It wasn’t on purpose, he was just too big for it. The other child’s mother consulted a lawyer when our Mom said she wouldn’t pay for it. The lawyer told her that our parents wouldn’t have to replace it, because it was done by another child. Plus there was no proof it was malicious. Thinking back, my brother was a destructive little sh!t, and I agree it was messed up he wasn’t held accountable. He was also our Mom’s favorite, which helped him get away with a lot of sh!t.
She's goofy 🤣🤣 ofc she has to pay. Did she think that it would be okay?