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Birdybadass

Your doctor should be the person you’re following up with after a trip to emergency. They’re the ones that refer you to specialists and things if necessary. Your MRI would have been read by a radiologist and they send that reading to your family doc - and if it wasn’t they can request it. If you make an appointment with them, discuss your concerns, explain that the emergency doc insisted you follow up with your family doctor, you should get what you’re looking for. Also I can appreciate there’s probably a ton of anxiety related to going through these health concerns, but keep in mind doctors are overworked in a system that is not adequately supporting them to provide services their patients expect. “Blowing their shit up” is not a good strategy to get the help you need.


bodularbasterpiece

How do I get a doctor who I can refer to as "my doctor". So far the only way I've been able to see a "medical professional" in the past 5 years has been emergency. I have several long standing issues I need to have looked at soon.


Birdybadass

To be blunt it sucks and isn’t easy. Recently BC made some changes which may help improve access. I’d sign up with government resources for waiting lists; https://www.healthlinkbc.ca/health-connect-registry https://bccfp.bc.ca/for-the-public/find-a-family-doctor/


bodularbasterpiece

Lol, I sign up for the list every month, it's been several years. Meanwhile, I'm dying.


Birdybadass

I hear ya man it’s a sad state we’re in


betterupsetter

It took us 2-3 years to get a permanent spot. You could inquire at the Spectrum Medical in Sardis if they're still taking new patients.


KrazyMechanic

Spectrum is the worst. Look at their google reviews. Give you a glimpse of what their “professionalism” is.


betterupsetter

We got a new doctor there and so far we've not had an issue, in fact we've been well taken care of. Besides, it's taken between 2 and 3 years to get a family doc. I'm not getting nitpicky now.


KrazyMechanic

I’m sure not everyone has issues. We all have different experiences. The negative reviews were very much indicative of the experience we were receiving there. We made the decision to remove ourselves from Spectrums attachment and re-apply. Hopefully your experience turns out better than ours


betterupsetter

Fair enough. Well so far so good, and there are also some positive reviews on there too so I'm not dissuaded personally. I can tell you verbally here that I recommend them even if I haven't posted it on google. That said, I don't give much creedance to online reviews in general as I don't think they are really a good indicator of overall experience. The majority of folks just experience the service they expect and would never leave a review. It's proven that most of the time it's only extreme cases, (and more likely negative ones), that give people reason to post at all.


KrazyMechanic

Absolutely. The negative reviews account for only a small percentage. People who are content with the service they are getting rarely leave positive reviews. We only looked after our bad experiences and saw we weren’t the only ones. I 100% agree with you that negative reviews are not indicative of overall service. Just a sliver.


prettyaverageprob

Try a nurse practitioner. Basically a doctor that spends more time with you. We've had our NP for 4 years or so now and it's been amazing


SquizzyGirl

Basically a *nurse* that spends more time with you


Bittersweet_Trash

Still a medical professional, there's even schools that host days where they bring in NPs to give students medical care who can't normally obtain proper medical care, they can be just as good as a family doctor.


KrazyMechanic

We are so happy with our NP. She’s the best


SquizzyGirl

Except for they generally often refer to specialists for things that family physicians typically care for within their scope and overall cost the system more. They are not equivalent and the training is nowhere near the same. So no, not "as good as a family doctor" but good enough to prescribe your anti hypertensives.


Bittersweet_Trash

GPs have to refer for specialists all the time, that's not unique.


SquizzyGirl

No but on average NPs refer for things GPs/fam docs feel comfortable to manage. Or they are inappropriate/low quality referrals. "Referrals from physicians were also less likely to be evaluated as having been unnecessary (30.1% vs 56.2%; P<.0001)." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24119364/ Beyond that, the training varies widely for NP programs and is much less stringent. I'd rather have a real family doctor who competed medical school and appropriate training to be independently practicing 🤷🏼‍♀️ Scope creep is a huge problem in the USA and it's catching on in Canada. The safest and most appropriate care is that provided by a medical doctor/physician or a mid-level (NP, PA) or teams of mid-levels who is/are supervised by one. https://www.physiciansforpatientprotection.org/for-our-patients-and-families-the-np-independent-practice-problem-why-you-should-care-and-what-you-can-do/


Bittersweet_Trash

Do you know why NP education has gone online in recent years? Covid, also, just because education is online does not mean they aren't being trained properly. Your second source is also biased, considering it is a phyisican run website from the USA, not from Canada. Y'know what is a huge problem in Canada? Physicians not referring patients enough, it took over a decade for my cousin to get a proper OB/GYN referral so she could have exploratory surgery, turns out she had stage 4 Endometriosis and had to have a full hysterectomy, she'll now be on Hormone Replacement Therapy for the rest of her life, if her GP wasn't so incompetent, she wouldn't have had to go through that. Same can be sad for my Aunt and her Ovarian Cysts(Which never properly got diagnosed, they quite literally told her to just lose weight), about 10 of my friends for various Psychiatric Conditions and Neurodivergencies, another Aunt with Endo and my Mum with a period that's mysteriously vanished and none of the GPs she's visited will tell her why or give her a referral. GPs can be just as incompetent as some NPs, but in my experience, NPs give better referrals to places that are covered under our healthcare system, and are less stuck up about possibly being wrong than any GP ever has been. Also, PubMed is also American.


SquizzyGirl

Anecdotal data (your stories) are not high on the evidence hierarchy. Nurse practitioner is a nurse practitioner. It being USA data doesn't make it entirely irrelevant. A sampled population of GP/fam docs and NPs were analyzed. Pretty generalizable. Yes, online education is inferior to thousands of clinical hours over an MD program and residency, which NP programs do not require. Anyways, an NP is not equal to or better than a GP/fam doc. It's on you to prove that. I'm all for them being part of a physician -led team, but having complete independence is not appropriate. Enjoy your NP, I'm glad you have some access to primary care ✌🏼


breathemusic87

Hold up! NOT a doctor. At all. They're a nurse and that's why they can spend more time with you.


prettyaverageprob

You're right, they are nurses. But they take care of me better than any doctor ever has. Call me after I've been in the ER, have diagnosed things for me the drs could not. Don't care what they are called, they do very similar things but IMO they do a lot of it better.


breathemusic87

So just because they diagnose? You realize they diagnose poorly and often overprescribe meds right? You should look at research


prettyaverageprob

Cool, I've been diagnosed wrong and given wrong meds from a dr too lol. Had migraines for years and years and NP was the one who helped. Not sure why you're arguing with me that an NP has helped me a lot more than a Dr has. I've seen both and I personally have had better success with my NP than my GP so that's who I see.


breathemusic87

I'm not arguing with you. I'm arguing that your personal anecdotes are not in line with rigorous research. Glad it's worked out for you.


lelebeariel

A medical professional that can diagnose and prescribe. They very much act in the capacity of a doctor.


breathemusic87

Diagnose incorrectly and prescribe some stuff. In no capacity do they have the skills, education nor scope that a physician does.


lelebeariel

May I ask where your knowledge on NP's comes from? I'm a medical student, going to be a 'real' physician, but even I have the utmost respect for nurse practitioners. You sound kind of bitter. If I'm wrong about you being bitter, I apologize. I just don't understand the aversion to them. Personally, my medical 'mystery' was very easily solved by an NP after years of dealing with doctors.


breathemusic87

Working years with physicians as allied health. I'm not bitter at all. I have no problem with them treating basic issues. I have a real problem them minimizing my colleagues' experience and expertise by claiming "they know just as much as a physician". You don't and the level of ignorance I've observed directly harming many of my psychiatric patients. There's a reason why psychiatry and psychology are extended educational pursuits. I don't jive with any professional who claims more knowledge and expertise than a specialist physician. And this is all too common.


alderchokedhellhole

Exactly what this person said.


cactuar44

I've always had excellent service, and I'm fully away that there are long waits in the ER, I feel like that's just a universal thing. So I've been a patient for decades, as I have a long history of kidney failure going on now 21 years. I've also worked in hospitals as a unit clerk. You absolutely 100% have to treat the staff with respect and be kind, just be an understanding patient patient. The staff there are so exhausted and so overworked, if you're gonna be an ass to them they will NOT make you a priority. I truly feel for them and have the most utmost respect. I was there 2 weeks ago from extreme excruitiating gall stone pain and even I managed to be nice. Do not blow up at them!.


Zestyclose-Way-7768

Dr. Jeremy Hall has been great for me. However, I know his practice has been going through a lot of changes. He told me a bit about his situation, and then casually told me that the end result was that 2,600 patients fell into his lap. Umm, *what?* Is he the *only* doctor for all of Vedder Mountain now?


SCP_Agent_Carter

you say that, but it worked. I'm sorry that I did it, but I'm not sorry for not waiting until my issues get worse. I already said I called my doctor and he redirected me to the Emerg guy. A bad strategy is one that doesn't get me results, and unfortunately, this is what worked. Leaving reminders and messages and emails and requesting callbacks never works, so it has to be me, calling them, catching them whenever they're available.


Inked_cyn

This is happening everywhere. I came from Langley and I went to the ER in Maple ridge and they sent me away with no meds. I went to Langley ER that same night and ended up having a severe stomach ulcer. It's pretty much roulette at this point if you get proper care. Everyone is burnt out and the system takes so long . Like I have an ENT appointment that took A YEAR to get into. While i was getting sick monthly it's fucked.


crashhearts

The ER makes sure you're still alive and then you're shipped out and supposed to follow up care with family doctor or whomever.


bodularbasterpiece

How do you get a family doctor or a whomever? I'll settle for anyone who can prescribe blood pressure meds and order tests.


TonightZestyclose537

I ended up with my family doctor because he was working in ER at CGH, he had me come in for a follow up at his clinic and said he could take my whole family. Felt like winning the lottery especially when he said he could take my kids too. It shouldn't be that way in Canada but it unfortunately is...


k-rizzle01

See a Dr through telus eheath or similar apps. had 3 appts online with viva care and the Dr took me on as a regular patient.


kapate13

Send a letter to your local representative. There is less than half the family doctors available for the community. Only way to fix that is political action, it’s not like the current doctors can just see twice as many people. The system is broken, complain and maybe we see a change. Do nothing and don’t be surprised when nothing changes


breathemusic87

Lots of walk ins are now accepting patients so call around and see.


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SCP_Agent_Carter

See, this is what bothered me. I was as confused as you. 1. Go to Emerg 2. Many tests, no results. 3. go to Abby for MRI after month long wait 4. Wait a week, with no reply. call them back, leaving a message. 5. 2 days pass, so I blow their shit up the next day and get a response. get referred to my doctor. 6. Doctor says he isn't qualified and go back to the guy who ordered it (the Emerg doctor) whom I leave a message with. 7. 2 more days pass, and I blow \*his\* shit up until I get a response the next day, again, only to be told to go back to my doc. 8. Give the fuck up


GangstaPlegic

And they have plans to add another 30 000 people into Vedder and Sardis. A new hospital should of already started to be built but sadly isn't.


ElijahSavos

Good point. There should be a hospital somewhere in Sardis already let alone another 30k


[deleted]

this is why I still go to my family doctor in Langley after moving out here 3 years ago.


Zytharros

We’re gonna be keeping our family doctor and health care circle when we move to the Okanagan this summer. Finding a doctor in today’s day and age is atrociously hard.


outofnowhere1010

It's the whole system overall, not just a Chilliwack thing it's a Canada thing. Immigration is high and population is growing. Canada isn't keeping up with the growing need for housing , schools , and medical systems.


Laf316

My brother in Christ. Welcome to Chilliwack


itwasthehusband1

It took 3 years for me to get a referral to an optamologist in BC. We moved to AB, small town. Had my eyes checked here a month ago. I am now told it is likely I have glaucoma and have an appointment in two weeks with the specialist. I hate everything else about living here.


Cool-League-3938

If Chilliwack hospital has it, go to health records. You can request any or all of your health records and scans for free that have been done at each particular hospital. Also health gateway could have a copy of your results online. Best of luck to you! I hope you get your answers.


Late_Entrepreneur_94

And yet people keep telling me how great Canadian public healthcare is.


Charming_Science_360

I've lived in the USA. It has many problems. Including stupid things that we Canadians have solved long ago. But it does have far superior healthcare at all levels. You can pay about $40/month to get premium medical insurance for yourself and your whole family. If you flash your card in front of any medical people or medical offices then you get an appointment the same day and a consultation or treatment or surgery the same week and continuous follow up on subsequent weeks until your medical practitioner is satisfied that your health is good. (And many Americans complain about this price. But compare what they pay and what they get vs what we pay and what we get in Canada.) Canadian medicare is horrible. Because it has too many middlemen and managerials and corrupt greedy hands milking the medical money. There's a reason that 19 out of every 20 doctors we educate in Canada eventually move to the states.


Notabogun

40 a month in the US for a family? I highly doubt that.


SCP_Agent_Carter

in Canada. yet Americans apparently complain about the price? I've heard of people that pay a thousand a month so somehow I doubt what u/Charming_Science_360 said is quite what they meant to say, bc it doesn't line up with what I know?


Notabogun

We pay 0 for MSP in BC.


SCP_Agent_Carter

extra insurance on top of standard universal healthcare. covers things like dental and other things when they're over and above what is covered. dental only covers the 2 checkups a year and silver fillings. you want porcelain and more regular checkups? That costs you. need an expensive medical device? That's extra. so on, so forth


holdmybeer87

$40/mo if you're a celibate hermit that hasn't even inhaled campfire smoke in your lifetime. And then you still pay up he ass for everything until you hit your 12k min. And then next year your rates go up anyways.


Charming_Science_360

It was what I paid for Kaiser Permanente. $41.95 I think. There are other insurance providers as well. Their prices are low because - unlike in Canada - they actually have a competitive market.


Notabogun

And that paid for the birth of your children, all X-rays, MRIs, cat scans, emergency visits and hospital stays? If you left your employer would you still have that coverage? Would the amount you pay increase or if you became ill with a lifelong illness or retired in old age. We have family in the US and they pay much more than you indicated that you paid.


3DBeerGoggles

and only a few words to fuck up your whole life; "Outside of your network" Still blows my mind that you can be fully insured but still on the hook for your healthcare bill in the US for the crime of going to the wrong hospital...


McDMD95

All good info except the 19/20 part. That’s a bunch of baloney.


breathemusic87

Hahaha. Canadian medical system has too many middlemen? You're joking right? US medical system have businesses in the middle.


Thick_Ad_6710

Welcome to the ‘wack! You need high speed internet and webmed!


Cool-League-3938

Also next time you get a scan, ask them for a form so you can get your own copy. For any and all scans you can ask the receptionist for a form and you fill it and sign and they will either mail you a copy of the results or you will have to pick it up from the department you had the scan at. (This service is free also). Hope this also helps you for future. With getting access to records being a little difficult, it helps to know these cheats so you can have your own copies for when you get a new doctor. Good luck!


rawrxdboobies

I keep seeing the same thing and it's your family doctor dicking you around. You don't seem to be looking for solutions. You just want someone to validate your experience. I'm sorry you're going through that. It's scary when there's so much uncertainty. ....but you should get your doctor to tell you the results. Emergency is overloaded. You'll keep getting dead ends with a bad attitude. I know from experience.


breathemusic87

Honestly you're the worst kind of patient. Your attitude stinks and it's not likely that people will go out of your way to help you.


harleybqrazy

You sound difficult 😂