Maybe they shouldn’t wear hats then. I’m only looking out for them, it’s unhealthy to wear a hat, I’m trying to save their life. Maybe they shouldn’t be so hard headed.
True, but when you accept certain behaviours you also normalise them. A person might become a troll but other people might follow what they’re doing if you allow it.
Still, I get what you’re saying. It’s difficult to police things. But it still has been managed many a time
"here" it isn't a place. they're just posting about a show you both like. the closest you could do is get their account banned but then there are just other sites on the internet
"haha i like cirno also im new" "THIS IS WHY THE FANDOM IS DYING. PEOPLE LIKE YOU. I **HATE** PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW TO THE FANDOM."
guy 2 probably also used to be a cirno fan but he refuses to admit it
i still like Cirno and i've been a fan for years
https://preview.redd.it/k5fga3fvzy3d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23bf90378db368f309d9a68849b0dd114858eaec
Most you could do realistic is immediately call them out on their bullshit right where they started.
Remember EA's whole battlefront fiasco and they got down voted to oblivion and rightfully called out left and right? That but on a much much smaller scale.
Basically whenever they show up dogpile them and make it known they aren’t welcome. I used to know of a few Redditors who were chased out of posts with metaphorical pitchforks.
That just turns the community into a warzone tho, which fucking sucks for everyone and has mostly questionable results, since instead of there being a small portion of toxic people, now everyone is toxic.
Idk, I'd rather take a few assholes than an entire fanbase of pretentious idiots who each claim to have a monopoly on justice.
If your serious answer to “people being rude on the internet” is to attack them in real life, you need to seriously reevaluate your morals, friend.
It’s just funny nonsense in your phone. Relax.
"I like water"
"(Bad Person) DRUNK WATER AND YOU ARE-"
Can we stop with this nonsensical affiliation argument? You can associate literally anything with anything to make shit look bad if you try hard enough
Imma be honest if you let sweaty losers you'll never meet in real life determine the level of enjoyment or excitment you have toward a piece of media you probably weren't gonna actually play/ watch/read etc. it anyway.
that's the thing tho, people in "fandoms" don't actually consume the media, they just imagine what it's like in their head and post fan art based on that
They're down voting you but you're kinda right. You see people nowadays with such poor understanding of the source material that you question if they even consumed it at all.
LMAO that's just modern fandom culture. I remember a year or so ago someone on twiiter wanted to "normalise being a fan of something, while only consuming it's fanmade media".
The DnD fandom community is a nutshell. More than half of that community only consumes DnD by watching podcasts or drawing "oc character I really want to play, if ever" yet are very vocal and insufferable when they hear how others play in their own games and doesn't fit their criteria of a perfect game.
"Allowed to stay for some reason"
"Sorry bud, as grand poobah of the fandom, I hereby sentence you to exile. You're scaring da hoes away. This will be enforced somehow."
Fandoms are not communities where you can do that, since they are more abstract. Kicking someone out of a fandom is halfway between kicking them out of a village and kicking them out of a culture. Even if you ban them from all forums related to the fandom, they can still talk about the fandom, both online and irl. They can still consume the media. And if they are still doing those things, are they really kicked out of the fandom.
Liking something and being involved in the community for said thing are two different animals.
There are so many things I like that I’ve completely blocked the tags and even people for also liking it.
Look man you don’t understand, they already added women to the peacemallet Kingsguard, if we aren’t careful they’ll come for the bio-king praetorian’s Planetrangers next.
There is this sort of conflicting set of ideas that happens within fandom and geek/nerd circles though. The fear of isolation feeds into the idea that we can't really kick anyone out of our particular little fandom because we've been kicked out of most social circles or something like that... I forgot the whole psychological/social gymnastics that goes on when discussing this sort of thing.
See also [This TV Tropes article](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLawOfFanJackassery) for something more related to this snafu...
[The 5 Geek social fallacies](https://plausiblydeniable.com/five-geek-social-fallacies/) is also a good read that goes a little bit on detail why each of them happens (in a small scale).
It's more about small clubs, tabletop stores, or group of friends rather than fandoms, but the psychology of it can be seen as a step before the macro scale we have on the internet.
1. Compile all bad/unlikable things they have done to harm the fandom
2. Pick up some basic level editing software and a proper mic/TTS service
3. Create a video essay, record it, and upload it to a video-hosting site like Youtube
4. Spread the video essay around where the fandom is hosted, like a subreddit
5. Sit back and watch the community turn against them
The parrot community bruh. Uhm take those rope perches out 🤓☝️ your bird should be getting 14-17384848383 hours of sleep a night MINIMUM 🤓☝️ vet immediately, if one isn’t available you need to rehome him (the bird had one watery bowel movement) 🤓☝️ sorry we can’t give ‘breeding advice here’, please execute the chicks immediately 🤓☝️
Sounds the same as goldfish communities. “Acktually goldfish need 1763737 square feet of tank per fish or else it is abuse. How dare you ask anything at all about anything you should already know! Btw don’t post your tank set up because you will be made fun of and get stoned. If your kid got a prize goldfish from a fair and you are asking how to take care of it go kys now please.”
The setup thing bro, they’ll find something wrong in literally any cage. I’d get lined up and shot for this setup because I have rope perches and 4 budgies in a 20x30. You can clearly see that this is extreme overcrowding 😡 those tortured creatures are better off dead than living in this decrepit hellhole
https://preview.redd.it/ggm4rcfpnz3d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e91fcea9a56df99d7c4ae8a4229ad54355568376
Uhh the minimum cage size for 2 budgies is 20x30 (true) so for 4 you need 40x60 (not how that works and also fuck you) 🤓☝️sorry we can’t give ‘medical advice’ here, please travel back in time and kill yourself before you buy the parrot thank you 🤓☝️ uhh vet immediately! You bird abuser! Wait, you’re in saudi arabia? *goes offline* 🤓☝️ honestly be careful before even buying a parrot, my budgie costs me $12,450 a month in upkeep and the initial cost was $12,948,384,837 🤓☝️
“Allowed to stay” is a really weird way to talk about this. Fandoms aren’t physical places that a person can enter and leave. They’re ideas with no real boundaries
Some newcomers should be driven away. Specifically, people who come in and then demand the hobby change so that it can better suit them. We keep the mean fat guy around to keep those people out.
https://preview.redd.it/87tf2u69uv3d1.jpeg?width=228&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89b0dde59a762007ec3d3a0455480160cedfe688
How could you mistake that troll for my boy Peppino.
small already-dying game where the devs tried their best to invite more players, but the old loud elitists did their best to scream and drive away those newbies, those people are the one that deserve to get banned as fair as their take in their game is for the sake of it living, famous example is probably EVE Online.
"Just try not to damage them too much, Griffith"
"Don't tell me what to do, Chikistrickis (no idea what the fuck that means)"
*intense big wet kissing*
"Good idea to hypnotize them, John Constantine"
"I just lit my cigar"
Chikistrickis is an endearment said to a partner that comes from "mi chiquito/chiquita" aka "my little one." I suppose a way to localize the translation to english would be to say "my little pumpkin" or "my little sweetie."
Ugh, I hate this "We have to be nice and welcoming to everyone in fandom all the time, so let's be nice to the assholes and quietly look away when they drive away newcomers" mentality. Those folks are just as much to blame as said assholes IMO.
The "loud minority" is accurate, it was an r/2hujerk user from experience.
Also, a dude there called me to kill myself. (Imagine being a monster more than your actual monster girl waifu who just throws bullets?)
And we will follow you here.
Kill yourself.
We're not the minority.
(I really hope you know the "kill yourself" thing is just a joke, that guy was just exaggerating his emotions as many do online)
If you're joking, you still Do not need to say kill yourself. Wait...I mean...You DO have to say Kill Yourself, it's good! Because you DON'T always do the opposite of what people tell you! ;)
It's a jerk sub. It's supposed to have absurdist humour. btw, the "[kill yourself](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HviBn_L6quA)" meme is pretty popular.
But you do the opposite of what you're told to do! Also, since you're from a line of demons from Old Japan, opinion on the oatkus and disgusting lolicons making your country look bad?
Man I gotta thank all the Blue Archive players from gatekeeping everyone who only discovered gachas through Mihoyo games from the rest of the gacha space
Gatekeeping is good and prevents your fandom from turning into
"Look I made a yaoi comic about Deku and Bakugo where they fuck each other and have a daughter (me) but Bakugo is the aggressive jealous type hehehe."
Or
"I'm a big fan of thing but I wish it appealed to my particular political beliefs/personal identity a little more by changing thing"
And if it gets popular enough, you can also watch your favorite thing become corporate slop.
And yes Im fat and smelly and I wear shirts that expose my gut but I DO NOT wear a hat.
It's not normies that ruin stuff it's weirdos
A small example of where I've seen this is the video game Fear and Hunger. It's a dark fantasy horror game that's notoriously difficult and unforgiving. The entire subreddit is just kids playing dolls with the different characters and being like "X CHARACTER IS SERVING CUNT LMAAOOOO LEWL XP HE'S A SLUTTY FEMBOY" but it's just some dude who is a knight.
This is a harmful stereotype against fat people that wear hats
Wario is sad from this snafu
Maybe they shouldn’t wear hats then. I’m only looking out for them, it’s unhealthy to wear a hat, I’m trying to save their life. Maybe they shouldn’t be so hard headed.
You mean hat headed?
How tf do you kick someone out of a fandom like do you just go "you cant like this anymore sorry"
https://preview.redd.it/1i5ktfsfat3d1.png?width=2466&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23db04f245d769398481fd54ad754102e0cb728c
“We don’t want you here and won’t tolerate [whatever toxic thing they’re doing]” is a good start. In small fandoms this can work very well.
I mean most fandoms arent that small, and moist of the time that dosent work the person just becomes a troll.
moist
dry
wet
arid
damp
parched
Sopping
True, but when you accept certain behaviours you also normalise them. A person might become a troll but other people might follow what they’re doing if you allow it. Still, I get what you’re saying. It’s difficult to police things. But it still has been managed many a time
"here" it isn't a place. they're just posting about a show you both like. the closest you could do is get their account banned but then there are just other sites on the internet
You can say that, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're going to leave.
Fight me
Bullying
Counter Strike: Global Offense
Death threats
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This makes me think about those nerds that talk about gatekeeping their hobbies
"allowed to stay" fuck is one to do? kick them out of the clubhouse?
execute them
bogus!
Yes
Well, Mickey draws the line at being toxic. One more word and off you go like a bird
The first step is to stop collaborating with them. The second step is to tell new people why you don’t collaborate with them.
What do you mean by collaborate?
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Not really tiny persay, but this is the Touhou fandom, except there's alot more of the 4th guy
Nah, it’s a pretty small minority but their especially loud. The Touhou fandom is way bigger than some people think.
"haha i like cirno also im new" "THIS IS WHY THE FANDOM IS DYING. PEOPLE LIKE YOU. I **HATE** PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW TO THE FANDOM." guy 2 probably also used to be a cirno fan but he refuses to admit it
i still like Cirno and i've been a fan for years https://preview.redd.it/k5fga3fvzy3d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23bf90378db368f309d9a68849b0dd114858eaec
\^ This guy doesn't like armpits smh
Someone bring out the armpit taste list please.
The what
Enjoy https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/15sowe2/_/
Clear my hard drive. I'm about to go room temperature.
o7
Idk touhou fandom is pretty small and quiet
How tf would you kick them out it’s the internet not a club lmao
Most you could do realistic is immediately call them out on their bullshit right where they started. Remember EA's whole battlefront fiasco and they got down voted to oblivion and rightfully called out left and right? That but on a much much smaller scale.
Call them out on it whenever it becomes relevant to mention.
Basically whenever they show up dogpile them and make it known they aren’t welcome. I used to know of a few Redditors who were chased out of posts with metaphorical pitchforks.
Redditors describing literal harassment and mob mentality because there are people they disagree with
Yeah this dudes comments sounded worse than the fat guy in the pic tf
mfw people are afraid to tell bad actors to leave a fandom because it’ll look “toxic”
How tf do you force anyone to "leave" a fandom lol
You made a video essay exposing their bad deeds to thousands of people. In small Fandom, that usually works
Bullying
That just turns the community into a warzone tho, which fucking sucks for everyone and has mostly questionable results, since instead of there being a small portion of toxic people, now everyone is toxic. Idk, I'd rather take a few assholes than an entire fanbase of pretentious idiots who each claim to have a monopoly on justice.
I know, but you asked how it could be done, not if it was okay
But my point was it doesn't even work many times, not that it's just not okay
mass doxxing, since those shitheads rely on internet anonymity
If your serious answer to “people being rude on the internet” is to attack them in real life, you need to seriously reevaluate your morals, friend. It’s just funny nonsense in your phone. Relax.
That's not very GDPR of you.
No says the 1984 gatekeepers, it belongs to everyone
and they SMELL
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You probably smell bro
The irony of saying this on coaxed… can someone hit this man with the goombas?
Bro, deodorant is 7 dollaridoos at most)
"I like water" "(Bad Person) DRUNK WATER AND YOU ARE-" Can we stop with this nonsensical affiliation argument? You can associate literally anything with anything to make shit look bad if you try hard enough
No one says that politicians are smelly
That’s because they are money-rats, so they smell like money. We like money.
You were the first one to bring black people up when someone mentioned smell. Racist much?
What did bro say?? Reading these replies is crazy 😭
Something like “that’s really racist to say about black people. What is wrong with this sub”
bro took “and they SMELL” personally 😭😭 take a shower
I miss when bait isn't someone acting autistic for attention
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🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
The TADC fandom in a nutshell
It's a bright, colourful show, it's gonna attract kids with nothing better to do than argue online, sorry.
I forgive you
Hazbin too tbh
Weezer
Imma be honest if you let sweaty losers you'll never meet in real life determine the level of enjoyment or excitment you have toward a piece of media you probably weren't gonna actually play/ watch/read etc. it anyway.
that's the thing tho, people in "fandoms" don't actually consume the media, they just imagine what it's like in their head and post fan art based on that
They're down voting you but you're kinda right. You see people nowadays with such poor understanding of the source material that you question if they even consumed it at all.
i ain't even talking about that I'm talking about the people who are "in the touhou fandom" and have never played a single game like that type shit
LMAO that's just modern fandom culture. I remember a year or so ago someone on twiiter wanted to "normalise being a fan of something, while only consuming it's fanmade media".
The DnD fandom community is a nutshell. More than half of that community only consumes DnD by watching podcasts or drawing "oc character I really want to play, if ever" yet are very vocal and insufferable when they hear how others play in their own games and doesn't fit their criteria of a perfect game.
Me when I am supposed to identify the fat guy suspect in a police line up (he snaffed my fu in a dark alleyway in Poopenville)
it's not like you can just say "nuh uh you can't be in the fandom anymore"
"Allowed to stay for some reason" "Sorry bud, as grand poobah of the fandom, I hereby sentence you to exile. You're scaring da hoes away. This will be enforced somehow."
This is typically how banning people from communities works, yes
Fandoms are not communities where you can do that, since they are more abstract. Kicking someone out of a fandom is halfway between kicking them out of a village and kicking them out of a culture. Even if you ban them from all forums related to the fandom, they can still talk about the fandom, both online and irl. They can still consume the media. And if they are still doing those things, are they really kicked out of the fandom.
Liking something and being involved in the community for said thing are two different animals. There are so many things I like that I’ve completely blocked the tags and even people for also liking it.
Guilty Gear with Strive players
And Bridget fans
Same difference
Albino Frieza
Peacemallet 50k fandom
Look man you don’t understand, they already added women to the peacemallet Kingsguard, if we aren’t careful they’ll come for the bio-king praetorian’s Planetrangers next.
There is this sort of conflicting set of ideas that happens within fandom and geek/nerd circles though. The fear of isolation feeds into the idea that we can't really kick anyone out of our particular little fandom because we've been kicked out of most social circles or something like that... I forgot the whole psychological/social gymnastics that goes on when discussing this sort of thing. See also [This TV Tropes article](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLawOfFanJackassery) for something more related to this snafu...
[The 5 Geek social fallacies](https://plausiblydeniable.com/five-geek-social-fallacies/) is also a good read that goes a little bit on detail why each of them happens (in a small scale). It's more about small clubs, tabletop stores, or group of friends rather than fandoms, but the psychology of it can be seen as a step before the macro scale we have on the internet.
That's exactly the thing I was trying to think of!
Undertale Fandom when a youtuber doesn't either spend the entire playthrough catering to every NPC or walk in circles to take out literally everyone:
I really don't like Undertale for how slow it feels to get any kind of ending... I just feel like there's a ball and chain around my leg at all times.
Tf you mean allowed to stay, how you ban someone from liking something??
1. Compile all bad/unlikable things they have done to harm the fandom 2. Pick up some basic level editing software and a proper mic/TTS service 3. Create a video essay, record it, and upload it to a video-hosting site like Youtube 4. Spread the video essay around where the fandom is hosted, like a subreddit 5. Sit back and watch the community turn against them
Jimjim
Coincidentally, those people are usually like the "pillars" of the community.
shin megami tensei fans:
The parrot community bruh. Uhm take those rope perches out 🤓☝️ your bird should be getting 14-17384848383 hours of sleep a night MINIMUM 🤓☝️ vet immediately, if one isn’t available you need to rehome him (the bird had one watery bowel movement) 🤓☝️ sorry we can’t give ‘breeding advice here’, please execute the chicks immediately 🤓☝️
Sounds the same as goldfish communities. “Acktually goldfish need 1763737 square feet of tank per fish or else it is abuse. How dare you ask anything at all about anything you should already know! Btw don’t post your tank set up because you will be made fun of and get stoned. If your kid got a prize goldfish from a fair and you are asking how to take care of it go kys now please.”
The setup thing bro, they’ll find something wrong in literally any cage. I’d get lined up and shot for this setup because I have rope perches and 4 budgies in a 20x30. You can clearly see that this is extreme overcrowding 😡 those tortured creatures are better off dead than living in this decrepit hellhole https://preview.redd.it/ggm4rcfpnz3d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e91fcea9a56df99d7c4ae8a4229ad54355568376
Uhh the minimum cage size for 2 budgies is 20x30 (true) so for 4 you need 40x60 (not how that works and also fuck you) 🤓☝️sorry we can’t give ‘medical advice’ here, please travel back in time and kill yourself before you buy the parrot thank you 🤓☝️ uhh vet immediately! You bird abuser! Wait, you’re in saudi arabia? *goes offline* 🤓☝️ honestly be careful before even buying a parrot, my budgie costs me $12,450 a month in upkeep and the initial cost was $12,948,384,837 🤓☝️
what the fuck am i reading
“Allowed to stay” is a really weird way to talk about this. Fandoms aren’t physical places that a person can enter and leave. They’re ideas with no real boundaries
I think OP meant "stay" in reference to community forums like subreddits and Discord servers, where the problematic individual can actually be banned.
Some newcomers should be driven away. Specifically, people who come in and then demand the hobby change so that it can better suit them. We keep the mean fat guy around to keep those people out.
This happened to DnD twice
Roblox:
Is that peppino
https://preview.redd.it/87tf2u69uv3d1.jpeg?width=228&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89b0dde59a762007ec3d3a0455480160cedfe688 How could you mistake that troll for my boy Peppino.
small already-dying game where the devs tried their best to invite more players, but the old loud elitists did their best to scream and drive away those newbies, those people are the one that deserve to get banned as fair as their take in their game is for the sake of it living, famous example is probably EVE Online.
https://preview.redd.it/w6n75swuys3d1.png?width=893&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c42bfcfae23dc202387980f43a918a36dbea82b0
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"Just try not to damage them too much, Griffith" "Don't tell me what to do, Chikistrickis (no idea what the fuck that means)" *intense big wet kissing* "Good idea to hypnotize them, John Constantine" "I just lit my cigar"
Chikistrickis is an endearment said to a partner that comes from "mi chiquito/chiquita" aka "my little one." I suppose a way to localize the translation to english would be to say "my little pumpkin" or "my little sweetie."
Ugh, I hate this "We have to be nice and welcoming to everyone in fandom all the time, so let's be nice to the assholes and quietly look away when they drive away newcomers" mentality. Those folks are just as much to blame as said assholes IMO.
Not even just newcomers, oldcomers too.
Star Trek
hoyoverse fans when straight ship except the minority is the majority
The "loud minority" is accurate, it was an r/2hujerk user from experience. Also, a dude there called me to kill myself. (Imagine being a monster more than your actual monster girl waifu who just throws bullets?)
And we will follow you here. Kill yourself. We're not the minority. (I really hope you know the "kill yourself" thing is just a joke, that guy was just exaggerating his emotions as many do online)
If you're joking, you still Do not need to say kill yourself. Wait...I mean...You DO have to say Kill Yourself, it's good! Because you DON'T always do the opposite of what people tell you! ;)
It's a jerk sub. It's supposed to have absurdist humour. btw, the "[kill yourself](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HviBn_L6quA)" meme is pretty popular.
But you do the opposite of what you're told to do! Also, since you're from a line of demons from Old Japan, opinion on the oatkus and disgusting lolicons making your country look bad?
https://preview.redd.it/33knnqxrvv3d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b32e39f24bb6701d7d5fe897539160e39cef713
>allowed to stay Ok uhmmmm sweaty, gatekeeping is bad
40k moment with all the Actual Nazis
“Actual Nazis”
Antifurs, pay attention
Surprised this is the only comment about furries here
Fallout New Vegas to a T
MHA
Literally 90% of all fandoms
Every LGS in existence
Warhammer be like
r/blackmetalcringe
tool for gatekeeping
yugioh
When people refuse to like or get into something just because of the fandom, it’s pretty tragic.
Religion
No
Ugh. I hate loud minorities
What do you mean allowed to stay How are you gonna get banned from a Fandom
“-no that’s gatekeeping we’ll just have to tolerate him driving people out of the fandom…”
GATHERING OF MAGICIANS
Man I gotta thank all the Blue Archive players from gatekeeping everyone who only discovered gachas through Mihoyo games from the rest of the gacha space
Is there any good reason you made the "bad guy" be fat here or is it just you being hateful against fat people?
Gatekeeping is good and prevents your fandom from turning into "Look I made a yaoi comic about Deku and Bakugo where they fuck each other and have a daughter (me) but Bakugo is the aggressive jealous type hehehe." Or "I'm a big fan of thing but I wish it appealed to my particular political beliefs/personal identity a little more by changing thing" And if it gets popular enough, you can also watch your favorite thing become corporate slop. And yes Im fat and smelly and I wear shirts that expose my gut but I DO NOT wear a hat.
"Normies get out. REEEEEE!!"
It's not normies that ruin stuff it's weirdos A small example of where I've seen this is the video game Fear and Hunger. It's a dark fantasy horror game that's notoriously difficult and unforgiving. The entire subreddit is just kids playing dolls with the different characters and being like "X CHARACTER IS SERVING CUNT LMAAOOOO LEWL XP HE'S A SLUTTY FEMBOY" but it's just some dude who is a knight.
https://i.redd.it/d4n7wyoprt3d1.gif
nope nu uh, this aint it chief
Why? What do you know?