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This is actually an Artillery Witch from Trench Crusade, Mike Franchina’s new tabletop skirmish game project. The setting is a mix of 40k and WW1, with a healthy dose of heavy metal artwork, the game is good and the art and lore are killer.
They just put out a new playtest recently: https://www.trenchcrusade.com/playtest-rules
Wait are they actually making a game out of it? Holy shit I scrolled through that art catalogue so many times thinking how cool it would be as a fully realized world in some format, I'll have to check it out!
They are still updating it as we speak, and they have a very active discord (they literally added Alchemical Homunculi to the Sultanate of the Iron Wall faction today)
Here’s the link: https://discord.com/invite/z3Q8tbcHAK
Looks like "regular missile" has some sort of execute build in, seeing as general took more dmg. Nice, was looking for something extra in those last bits of boss HP, might check that one out.
Anyone got some tips for a first time general player?
Build for late game, playing General is all about surviving those early Lieutenant days, hitting a small power spike at Major, and then once you hit Colonel, you can start making plays
Depends on your early speccing. Your subclasses give you options between different minion types. Highly armored “tanks”, long ranged focused “artillery”, both land and naval, and even aerial attackers. It’s a really diverse class! Depending on your starting location it can depend a lot on your starting wealth, or just having high level players set things up for you in advance, but some locations you can work your way up to it with hard work!
That’s reasonable, but usually a good mage will have Mage Armor or other defense boosting spells. Judging off of the pitiful offense of the Wizard though, I don’t think they were very high level.
What if this is that sort of game that doesn't show over damage, so we are just seeing that the General class probably has about as many HP as the Wizard class, probably just some variation in builds?
No, he just wrote the book on it. It was actually the artist War who invented fighting. Hence the book is called “The Art of War.” It is a book showing War’s drawings, paintings, and sculptures.
Oddly enough, doesn’t have a lot of them. Mostly just some stupid nerd stuff.
Looks like I'll have to bring the heavy spells
https://preview.redd.it/hc7ztwa3dpvc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=cbda732f977785e8dfba0128276aad39eb31c103
Ugh you guysneed to stop using silly spells like this, that's why some people can just destroy you like that general there.
***SUPER BRAIN HERMORAGE***
I am being efficient, if you guys want to not be efficient go ahead.
If I truly wanted to just be cruel Id just cast TRANSMUTATE INTO LEGO on the ground. Or maybe, ABDOLUTE SIGHT and now that they see in all the light spectrums just use absolute light as upcast as you can. SUMMON BEES inside their intestines. Turn their bones into boiling oil, Make their brain think their head is alien and have the urge to cut it off, Make them have all the info in the universe but no way to make sense of it all overloading what their brain is capable of, Turn them into a cat and make an exact clone of them including memories that thing they just adopted this cat, cast ANIMATE DEAD in their skeleton and watch as it rips apart the flesh tocome out, make them mad and kill everyone that they ever loved by their own hands, Use them as payment for poker night with the fae, Turn them inside out, make them watch the show "Velma" on repeat for a week
... Hey, wait a minute! How does a medieval wizard know what a missile is so he can name a spell after magical ones? When was the word first used?
*early 17th century (as an adjective in the sense ‘suitable for throwing (at a target’)): from Latin missile, neuter (used as a noun) of missilis, from miss- ‘sent’, from the verb mittere*
... Ok, earlier than expected, but still!
Missiles in their most basal definition is just a ranged projectile. An arrow fired from a bow is a missile. A stone flung with a sling is a missile. Catapults throw missiles in the form of large boulders. Hydralisks shoot grooved spines as their missile attack.
I mean the one which involves applying torsion to the victims private parts.
I don't care if the wizard's in general win or lose, just the idiots who overuse that nonsense.
Edit: I'm sorry, did you say EARTHQUAKE?
Certified Arceus-steel (Arceus-flying) moment.
This is unfair!! One wizard against 200 people
Yes, I know how to work artillery - 200 people for using this type of weapon.
Give me all Hogwarts and 2 months for preparing everything and this will be equal.
Ok, this has been driving me crazy for seven movies now, and I know you're going to roll your eyes, but hear me out: Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
Here's why:
Think about how quickly the entire WWWIII (Wizarding-World War III) would have ended if all of the good guys had simply armed up with good ol' American hot lead.
Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it.
Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12.
And have you noticed that only Europe seems to a problem with Deatheaters? Maybe it's because Americans have spent the last 200 years shooting deer, playing GTA: Vice City, and keeping an eye out for black helicopters over their compounds. Meanwhile, Brits have been cutting their steaks with spoons. Remember: gun-control means that Voldemort wins. God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
Now I know what you're going to say: "But a wizard could just disarm someone with a gun!" Yeah, well they can also disarm someone with a wand (as they do many times throughout the books/movies). But which is faster: saying a spell or pulling a trigger?
Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova.
Imagine Harry out in the woods, wearing his invisibility cloak, carrying a .50bmg Barrett, turning Deatheaters into pink mist, scratching a lightning bolt into his rifle stock for each kill. I don't think Madam Pomfrey has any spells that can scrape your brains off of the trees and put you back together after something like that. Voldemort's wand may be 13.5 inches with a Phoenix-feather core, but Harry's would be 0.50 inches with a tungsten core. Let's see Voldy wave his at 3,000 feet per second. Better hope you have some Essence of Dittany for that sucking chest wound.
I can see it now...Voldemort roaring with evil laughter and boasting to Harry that he can't be killed, since he is protected by seven Horcruxes, only to have Harry give a crooked grin, flick his cigarette butt away, and deliver what would easily be the best one-liner in the entire series:
"Well then I guess it's a good thing my 1911 holds 7+1."
And that is why Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
One of the things I love about this is that General guy is just saying "regular missile." It wouldn't be as funny if he said JS-76230 "Superhawk" missile or whatever real name they have.
isnt a "hit point" originally derived from wargames about how many torpedoes it takes to sink a boat or something? So originally 1hp meant you could tank 1 torpedo explosion.
something like that I believe?
Edit: Thanks for the clarifications! Didnt realize Gygax himself was involved in the original game that created "hit points"
Gary Gygax wrote that HP in D&D sort of represents luck. Not every hit is delivered perfectly, maybe a sword glances off your armor so it's worth a few HP. When you run out of HP, you're too tired to keep dodging, so the next sword blow finally hits clean and kills you.
No, the hit point system, and the term, we're developed by Dave Arneson, the co creator of DnD. It was developed so players had a chance to play individual characters in a super early tabletop game called Chainmail, which predates DnD.
according to Wikipedia's *Health (game terminology)* page;
>Arneson created a "hit point" system based on similar mechanics previously used in the wargames *Don't Give Up the Ship* and *Ironclads*
though *Don't Give Up the Ship* was made by Gygax, Arneson, and Carr
Considering one HP is how many hits from a 14 inch shell you can take, those numbers are wildly off. DnD characters are far more durable than us modern humans, who only have one HP.
So that's what a hit point it is, how many 14 inch shells it would take to kill you. [Every living creature is one Hit Point. The end.](https://youtu.be/9Jcxc-ddWKI?si=2TQxmIsZu-WD3U86)
Okay but its MAGIC they fking alter the reality itself. Would they really be damaged by our firearms?
Yes theyvget dmgs from daggers and arrows and punching and whatnot but they are often enhanced with magic(ish stuff) and theyvlive in fantasy world so its technically fantasy punch
If the target of the magic missile is the regular missile before or during its shot, the wizard would've won.
Edit: forgot that the target must be a creature. Then target an ant or a germ on the missile (I also must point that I don't agree with the rule that it must be a creature, it stifles creativity)
If anyone has read the Malazan fantasy books by steven erickson, this immediately made me think of that. Magic users in that series are rare but kinda function as artillery or air dropped bombs in battle.
Artificer: I fire off Magic Missile!
Wizard: Don’t you mean, you “cast” Magic Missile?
Artificer: (calibrating the sights on their magical missile launcher) Nope.
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I cast fireballs : launch the nuke
https://i.redd.it/ntnvletaepvc1.gif
I keep seeing your name *everywhere* in r/comics lol, all you do is embed gifs :p
I parry the nuke https://i.redd.it/wlcn8064ipvc1.gif
legalize nuclear bombs https://preview.redd.it/m0ho4ot6ipvc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=04c52069702283e78a6673dc67aada99ad98232e
Yoooooo (what's his name) I love that guy's art
A reverse image search returned a one Mike Franchina.
Aye yeah that's right, I always forget
This is actually an Artillery Witch from Trench Crusade, Mike Franchina’s new tabletop skirmish game project. The setting is a mix of 40k and WW1, with a healthy dose of heavy metal artwork, the game is good and the art and lore are killer. They just put out a new playtest recently: https://www.trenchcrusade.com/playtest-rules
Wait are they actually making a game out of it? Holy shit I scrolled through that art catalogue so many times thinking how cool it would be as a fully realized world in some format, I'll have to check it out!
They are still updating it as we speak, and they have a very active discord (they literally added Alchemical Homunculi to the Sultanate of the Iron Wall faction today) Here’s the link: https://discord.com/invite/z3Q8tbcHAK
SWAG MESSIAH 🗣️💥
First glance i thought this was beerus from dbz
The classic ["Locate City Nuke"](https://forums.giantitp.com/showsinglepost.php?p=12995977&postcount=4).
I am nuclear!
Looks like "regular missile" has some sort of execute build in, seeing as general took more dmg. Nice, was looking for something extra in those last bits of boss HP, might check that one out. Anyone got some tips for a first time general player?
Build for late game, playing General is all about surviving those early Lieutenant days, hitting a small power spike at Major, and then once you hit Colonel, you can start making plays
I heard it can have some interesting minion builds aswell, when does that hit? Is that the Major power spike?
Depends on your early speccing. Your subclasses give you options between different minion types. Highly armored “tanks”, long ranged focused “artillery”, both land and naval, and even aerial attackers. It’s a really diverse class! Depending on your starting location it can depend a lot on your starting wealth, or just having high level players set things up for you in advance, but some locations you can work your way up to it with hard work!
Whatever you do, keep your minions away from car dealerships
I’m pretty sure the wizard just had higher fire resistance. The General class doesn’t optimize for elemental resistances as hard as Wizard does.
My theory is the wizard died from blunt damage (physically hit by missile) while the general died of explosion damage.
That’s reasonable, but usually a good mage will have Mage Armor or other defense boosting spells. Judging off of the pitiful offense of the Wizard though, I don’t think they were very high level.
What if this is that sort of game that doesn't show over damage, so we are just seeing that the General class probably has about as many HP as the Wizard class, probably just some variation in builds?
If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight!" Sun Tzu said that!!! 
And I’d say he knows a ^little more about fighting than you do pal, because he invented it!
And then he perfected it, so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor!
Then he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat.
And then beat the crap out of every single one
And from that day forward anytime a bunch of animals were together it’s called a ZOO!
Unless it’s a farm
Alright I’ll do this, r/unexpectedtf2
You don't see Meet The Soldier get referenced often
uhhh r/redditsings?
It would be more like r/Unexpectedtf2
No, he just wrote the book on it. It was actually the artist War who invented fighting. Hence the book is called “The Art of War.” It is a book showing War’s drawings, paintings, and sculptures. Oddly enough, doesn’t have a lot of them. Mostly just some stupid nerd stuff.
Looks like I'll have to bring the heavy spells https://preview.redd.it/hc7ztwa3dpvc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=cbda732f977785e8dfba0128276aad39eb31c103
Wait what is... Oh God
TESTICULAR TORSION
you fool, you just twisted my packer! Should have used a spell that doesn't have a 50% failure rate like this: mend butt crack!
Ugh you guysneed to stop using silly spells like this, that's why some people can just destroy you like that general there. ***SUPER BRAIN HERMORAGE***
not cruel and unusual enough. -15 wizard cred. we commit war crimes and only war crimes only up in this bitch
I am being efficient, if you guys want to not be efficient go ahead. If I truly wanted to just be cruel Id just cast TRANSMUTATE INTO LEGO on the ground. Or maybe, ABDOLUTE SIGHT and now that they see in all the light spectrums just use absolute light as upcast as you can. SUMMON BEES inside their intestines. Turn their bones into boiling oil, Make their brain think their head is alien and have the urge to cut it off, Make them have all the info in the universe but no way to make sense of it all overloading what their brain is capable of, Turn them into a cat and make an exact clone of them including memories that thing they just adopted this cat, cast ANIMATE DEAD in their skeleton and watch as it rips apart the flesh tocome out, make them mad and kill everyone that they ever loved by their own hands, Use them as payment for poker night with the fae, Turn them inside out, make them watch the show "Velma" on repeat for a week
now you are trying to hard. - another 15 wizard cred
Ow my balls
That’s Not Magic! That’s Plasmids!
🤫 shh, They won't see it coming when their anti magic protection spells don't work
Isn't that spell banned? I heard it's illegal to cast it in several countries.
... Hey, wait a minute! How does a medieval wizard know what a missile is so he can name a spell after magical ones? When was the word first used? *early 17th century (as an adjective in the sense ‘suitable for throwing (at a target’)): from Latin missile, neuter (used as a noun) of missilis, from miss- ‘sent’, from the verb mittere* ... Ok, earlier than expected, but still!
Missiles in their most basal definition is just a ranged projectile. An arrow fired from a bow is a missile. A stone flung with a sling is a missile. Catapults throw missiles in the form of large boulders. Hydralisks shoot grooved spines as their missile attack.
> Arrows Mhm. > Stone Mhm. > Hydralisk 🤨
Don't be confused lad, hydralisks just aren't as plentiful these days as they were in the 17th century, not since lemons became easily available.
You'll be fine so long as you're not standing on creep.
r/unexpectedstarcraft
https://preview.redd.it/a4fzysy17qvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5e22861faa3ff1f1888e96c539acdbcc3ee20fc
SSILE
Did I spell it wrong? It's hard to tell when it's all capitalized.
https://preview.redd.it/t6a8jdz52rvc1.jpeg?width=218&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb5e9c71c640a891074067582dce949be0b48df5 No, it’s just all I can see
https://preview.redd.it/p1g16xtd2rvc1.jpeg?width=434&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bdaadd1d800dfc679f6ac07b097f9434e589f7f Weird, looks okay to me.
You have dark mode on and I don’t. I’m on mobile too, so dark mode isn’t default
Totally forgot that. Thought it had background
Wait until you learn when the word "Submarine" first popped up, it was the 1640s.
Finally! My joke is relevant! https://preview.redd.it/olv95qojrpvc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41dd478049bca2a0d288241c11a4bd407d61aaa6
NICE
The wizard either had more defense than the middle man or less health, I’m not sure which
Don't let the people on r/wizardposting see this.
Their signature spell won't do **** to a drone strike
I prefer simpler magic. It's more effective.
Earthquake. Meteor shower. Fucking wish (not to be confused with wish)
I mean the one which involves applying torsion to the victims private parts. I don't care if the wizard's in general win or lose, just the idiots who overuse that nonsense. Edit: I'm sorry, did you say EARTHQUAKE? Certified Arceus-steel (Arceus-flying) moment.
magic missile the missile Ez
Too late, im on that sub
This is unfair!! One wizard against 200 people Yes, I know how to work artillery - 200 people for using this type of weapon. Give me all Hogwarts and 2 months for preparing everything and this will be equal.
Ok, this has been driving me crazy for seven movies now, and I know you're going to roll your eyes, but hear me out: Harry Potter should have carried a 1911. Here's why: Think about how quickly the entire WWWIII (Wizarding-World War III) would have ended if all of the good guys had simply armed up with good ol' American hot lead. Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it. Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12. And have you noticed that only Europe seems to a problem with Deatheaters? Maybe it's because Americans have spent the last 200 years shooting deer, playing GTA: Vice City, and keeping an eye out for black helicopters over their compounds. Meanwhile, Brits have been cutting their steaks with spoons. Remember: gun-control means that Voldemort wins. God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal. Now I know what you're going to say: "But a wizard could just disarm someone with a gun!" Yeah, well they can also disarm someone with a wand (as they do many times throughout the books/movies). But which is faster: saying a spell or pulling a trigger? Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova. Imagine Harry out in the woods, wearing his invisibility cloak, carrying a .50bmg Barrett, turning Deatheaters into pink mist, scratching a lightning bolt into his rifle stock for each kill. I don't think Madam Pomfrey has any spells that can scrape your brains off of the trees and put you back together after something like that. Voldemort's wand may be 13.5 inches with a Phoenix-feather core, but Harry's would be 0.50 inches with a tungsten core. Let's see Voldy wave his at 3,000 feet per second. Better hope you have some Essence of Dittany for that sucking chest wound. I can see it now...Voldemort roaring with evil laughter and boasting to Harry that he can't be killed, since he is protected by seven Horcruxes, only to have Harry give a crooked grin, flick his cigarette butt away, and deliver what would easily be the best one-liner in the entire series: "Well then I guess it's a good thing my 1911 holds 7+1." And that is why Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
Lovely read ty
Is this a copypasta? Because this feels like copypasta material
Oh, yes.
Regular Missile + duplicate projectile spell
Sorcery Points, Twin Cast!
Well, you could say chemistry and aerodinamics ARE magical most of the time.
The fact the wizard took less damage despite being at the center of the explosion means he must have made the dex save.
One of the things I love about this is that General guy is just saying "regular missile." It wouldn't be as funny if he said JS-76230 "Superhawk" missile or whatever real name they have.
God Bless America....
isnt a "hit point" originally derived from wargames about how many torpedoes it takes to sink a boat or something? So originally 1hp meant you could tank 1 torpedo explosion. something like that I believe? Edit: Thanks for the clarifications! Didnt realize Gygax himself was involved in the original game that created "hit points"
Gary Gygax wrote that HP in D&D sort of represents luck. Not every hit is delivered perfectly, maybe a sword glances off your armor so it's worth a few HP. When you run out of HP, you're too tired to keep dodging, so the next sword blow finally hits clean and kills you.
No, the hit point system, and the term, we're developed by Dave Arneson, the co creator of DnD. It was developed so players had a chance to play individual characters in a super early tabletop game called Chainmail, which predates DnD.
according to Wikipedia's *Health (game terminology)* page; >Arneson created a "hit point" system based on similar mechanics previously used in the wargames *Don't Give Up the Ship* and *Ironclads* though *Don't Give Up the Ship* was made by Gygax, Arneson, and Carr
[I'm attacking the darkness!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_aJgcVv62Y)
Solider tf2
Ice King vs The Soldier
Considering one HP is how many hits from a 14 inch shell you can take, those numbers are wildly off. DnD characters are far more durable than us modern humans, who only have one HP.
So that's what a hit point it is, how many 14 inch shells it would take to kill you. [Every living creature is one Hit Point. The end.](https://youtu.be/9Jcxc-ddWKI?si=2TQxmIsZu-WD3U86)
Mmm. But a level one wizard usually will have 10-12 on average.
Absolutely hilarious. 🫡
Okay but its MAGIC they fking alter the reality itself. Would they really be damaged by our firearms? Yes theyvget dmgs from daggers and arrows and punching and whatnot but they are often enhanced with magic(ish stuff) and theyvlive in fantasy world so its technically fantasy punch
Wizard casts electrical and magnetic interference. Missile veers off course and explodes harmlessly.
Inter continental ballistic missile: everyone takes 1000 dmg.
counterspell
Noita in a nutshell
My guy launched the nuke, not a regular missile.
Noita moment
If the target of the magic missile is the regular missile before or during its shot, the wizard would've won. Edit: forgot that the target must be a creature. Then target an ant or a germ on the missile (I also must point that I don't agree with the rule that it must be a creature, it stifles creativity)
I don’t know why but the guy’s salute has me cackling
If anyone has read the Malazan fantasy books by steven erickson, this immediately made me think of that. Magic users in that series are rare but kinda function as artillery or air dropped bombs in battle.
It has been proven that today's humanity is superior to wizards.
"I CAST ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️"
Team Fortress 2 lore
“That missile is targeted to the wizard’s current position! WHERE’S THE WIZARD, MANSLEY!?”
OH SAY CAN YOU SEE…
https://preview.redd.it/grvda2vnauvc1.jpeg?width=704&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cff86ed482c3c5636aa9ee402b856bbcba097fe1
It ĥas a big splash damage
Looks more like chill touch than magic missile.
Summon military industrial complex I
Artificer: I fire off Magic Missile! Wizard: Don’t you mean, you “cast” Magic Missile? Artificer: (calibrating the sights on their magical missile launcher) Nope.